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REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, AUGUST 24, 2004
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Buckley at 7:01
p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
HICKMAN, KELLEY,
MAGEE, SCHIFFNER,
BUCKLEY
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
NONE
Also present were: Assistant City Manager Best, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Pressey, Community Development Director
Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Fire Chief Gallegos, Lake &
Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Police Chief Fetherolf, Engineering
Manager Seumalo, Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Public
Works Manager Payne, City 1Yeasurer Weber and City Clerk/Human
Resources Director Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION
None.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by E.V.M. W.D. Director Kristine Anderson.
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INVOCATION -MOMENT OF SILENCE
Mayor Buckley led the meeting in a moment of silent prayed remembering
Fernando Hannah and his family.
Presentation - Lea~;ue of California Cities -Mayor Pro Tem Kelley_(F:108.8)
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley detailed the League of California Cities conference in
Monterey, and noted the benefits of this Conference. She indicated that it was the
best Conference there had been in Monterey and noted the surprise visit from
Governor Schwarzenegger. She noted that these events were opportunities to
network with other public officials and share ideas. She advised that the Annual
League Conference was coming to Long Beach soon, and encouraged
participation. She provided a PowerPoint presentation detailing the core beliefs of
the League, the benefits of participation, the highlights of the Monterey
Conference, the topics presented at the Conference and their relevance to Lake
Elsinore, the purposes of Leadership and the Creed of a Public Servant. She
stressed the new solutions and strategies presented and noted that the Conference
included leaders from all over the State. She indicated that the keynote speaker
was John Alston, author of "Stuff Happens and then you fix it". She noted the
difficulty in attending all of the programs of interest with only one City
participant, and commented that it would have been great to cover more of the
topics presented. She encouraged the Council to attend the League Conference in
September.
CLOSED SESSION REPORT
No Closed Session items.
PUBLIC COMMENTS -NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS -1 MINUTE
Philip Seis, 28963 Calle Del Lago, #A, provided a prayer for this meeting, seeking
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wisdom and discernment for the Council and lifting up those fallen soldiers in Iraq
and well as lead a prayer of blessings on the meeting. Prayed for opening up the
city to blessings. Prayed for wisdom and discernment for the Council. Lift up
those fallen in Iraq and those serving in Iraq.
Barbara Cady, 32524 Wildomar Road, thanked everyone for their participation in
the Music with a View series. She noted that there had been a great response; and
Mark Dennis did wonderful things in the newspaper. She indicated that there were
two more concerts, and noted that this week would be Jazz for a New Age,
followed by Riverside Philharmonic the next week.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS - 3 MINUTES
Requests were received to address the following items and deferred to those
discussions:
Item Nos. 31, 32, 37, 39.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED WITH THE CORRECTION AS NOTED AT 4:00 P.M.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. City Council Study Session -June 24, 2004. (F:44.4)
The following Minutes were received and ordered filed:
b. Planning Commission Minutes -July 20, 2004. (F:60.3)
c. Planning Commission Minutes -August 3, 2004.
2. Ratified Warrant List for August 16, 2004. (F:12.3)
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3. Accepted the Notice of Completion for the McVicker Canyon Park
Landscape Project. (F:114.12)
4. Approved Contract for Traffic Striping and Markings. (F:156.1)
PUBLIC HEARINGS
None.
BUSINESS ITEMS
38. Animal Shelter JPA. (F:18.4)
Assistant City Manager Best highlighted the proposed Joint Powers
Agreement with the Animal Friends, noting that it had been under
discussion for quite some time. She indicated that at this time the
commitment did not include a fiscal responsibility for participation, but it
might at some time in the future with the construction of the facility. She
noted that staff and the representatives of Animal Friends were present to
answer questions.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley reiterated that she had asked Animal Friends to keep
the Council posted on the cost of the Animal Shelter, noting that she was
very concerned about that cost.
MOVED BY MAGEE, SECONDED BY HICKMAN AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONCEPTUAL FORMATION
OF A JOINT POWERS AUTHORITY FOR THE PURPOSE OF FUNDING
THE CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION OF A SOUTHWEST COUNTY
ANIMAL SHELTER.
31. Second Reading; -Ordinance No. 1126 -East Lake Specific Plan
Amendment No. 6. (F:150.2)
Assistant City Manager Best noted that this item was a second reading
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regarding the John Laing Homes project. She noted that the public
hearing was held on July 27~' and the second reading of the Ordinance
was attempted at the last meeting, but a number of issues were raised and it
was deferred.
Carmella Loelkes, commented that she sounded like a broken record, but
was in attendance to request approval of the second reading. She noted
that there had been recent articles in the paper and discussions about the
project, and expressed hopes that the concerns had been resolved and the
Council would be able to act on it tonight.
James Stroffe yielded his time to Mr. Filler.
Michael Filler, John Laing Homes, 31900 Mission Trail, commented that
pursuant to the last second reading, he had his consultants available to
answer any questions. He indicated that he was surprised, after going
through the CEQA documents and meeting with all the agencies, that the
two letters were presented from County Transportation and County Flood
Control. He noted that they had been working with the Flood Control
District for a HEC 5 analysis. He indicated that he was looking forward
to their letter to respond to their comments. He commented that last week
one of his consultants tried to contact Supervisor Buster's office to discuss
concerns, but never received a-mail or phone call back. He offered to
answer questions.
Wendy Kolk yielded her time to Dave Stahovich.
Dave Stahovich, representing the County and Supervisor Buster,
indicated that he had Faxed materials earlier this afternoon, but
communications had been underway as late as about 3 p.m. today. He read
the following letter into the record:
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Dear Mr. Watenpaugh:
In addition to representing the 1 S` District, I am here at the request of the
entire Riverside County Board of Supervisors who took this matter under
consideration this morning in their Closed Session meeting. The Board has
asked me to convey that they are extremely concerned about this matter
I am attaching additional comments from George Johnson, County
Transportation Director; and Dusty Williams, General Manager/Chief
Engineer of the Flood Control District.
As you will note, the Transportation issues have not been addressed.
Additionally, in regards to the CEQA issues raised by the Flood
Control District, as the result of a conference call that took place
yesterday afternoon at 1: 00 p. m. between Councilman Magee, City staff and
Mr. Williams, a copy of the EIR was sent via courier to Flood Control and
Water Conservation District. Obviously, the District was unable to fully
evaluate the document within the few hours allotted.
For these reasons, the County respectfully request that the City continue
this matter off calendar until such time as we can insure that these
critical matters have been fully addressed. To move forward with this
project prior to that time would leave the County few alternatives.
In the unfortunate event that the City decides to move forward with this
project despite the issues raised, in addition to the attached County
Transportation Department and Flood Control District comments, the
County hereby advises the City of each of the following:
The City failed to adequately respond to the County's and/or the
District's comments as required by CEQA guidelines Section
15088.
2. The County's and/or the District's comments contain sign cant
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new information because they establish that traffic and/or
drainage impacts would not be mitigated to a level of
insignificance. Accordingly, the City should have revised the
Draft EIR as a result of the County's and/or the District's
comments and recirculated it as required by CEQA Guidelines
Section 15088.5.
3. The City violated Public Resources Code Section 21092.5 by
failing to provide the County and/or District with a written
response to its comments at least 10 days before the cert~ing
of the EIR.
4. The City Failed to adequately assess traffic and drainage
impacts and has failed to mitigate those impacts to a level of
insignificance as required by CEQA Guidelines Section 15092.
S. The City erroneously relies on mitigation measures conditioned
upon Tentative Tract Map #31920 (approved July 27, 2004).
Neither the impacts nor mitigation measures associated with
TTM #31920 were addressed in the EIR.
6. The City improperly deferred traff c and drainage mitigation
measures in violation of GENTRY V. CITYOFMURRIETA and
SUNDSTROMV. COUNTYOFMENDOCINO.
The City failed to adopt feasible traffic and drainage mitigation
measures as required by CEQA guidelines Sections 150932.
8. Because traff c and drainage impacts are not mitigated to a
level of insignificance, the City must adopt a Statement of
Overriding Considerations for these impacts as required by
CEQA Guidelines Section 15093.
9. The City's proposed Mitigation Monitoring Program required
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by CEQA Guidelines Section 15097 is inadequate.
10. The EIR did not consider a range of reasonable alternatives as
required by CEQA Guidelines Section 15126.6.
11. The City failed to consider the cumulative and growth inducing
impacts of the project as required by CEQA Guidelines Sections
15130 and 15126.2.
Sincerely,
DAVID P. STAHOVICH
SENIOR LEGISLATIVE ASSISTANT TO
SUPERVISOR BOB BUSTER
He also noted the memo from Dusty Williams, at Riverside County Flood
Control, dated today, and indicated that it would take about two weeks to
fully address the adequacy of the responses. He further noted the memo
from the Transportation Director addressing a letter from the City dated
August 19th, stating that the issues were worked out. He commented that
the letter was forwarded to both agencies and indicated that the comments
were unrelated to the project.
Mayor Buckley addressed the eleven issues in the letter and requested input
from staff. Assistant City Manager Best called Community Development
Director Brady, Engineering Manager Seumalo and Associate Planner
Morita for response, noting that City staff had been working on the project
for a number of years. She advised that staff had been addressing a number
of letters over the last couple of weeks since the last City Council meeting,
but noted that this particular document was received only about an hour ago.
Community Development Director Brady confirmed that he just received
this letter a little after 5:00 p.m. today. He indicated that there were some
inconsistencies and errors in what was presented, some of which he could
respond to at this time. Assistant City Manager Best questioned the status
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of the discussions prior to this letter. Community Development Director
Brady indicated that the County did present issues to the City regarding the
project at the last meeting, and since that time staff prepared a response;
copies of which were provided to the Council. He noted that he believed
that all of the issues raised at that time had been adequately addressed. He
commented that while he would be happy to respond to those questions, the
Council had received copies of the memo.
Mayor Buckley questioned responses to items 1 through 11 as presented in
the letter this evening. Community Development Director Brady indicated
that he could not answer all of the items at this time, but could after he had
time to adequately review them. He suggested that the City Attorney might
be prepared to comment on them. He commented that generally he did not
agree with the comments as presented.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that some of the comments in the letter
were conclusionary statements that City staff had failed to respond. She
disagreed with this stance and noted the technical studies, responses,
Mitigation Monitoring Program were certified and approved on July 27th.
She indicated that the comments were presented "post certification", and
she would disagree with concern no. 1.
Councilman Hickman commented that the County was asking for two
more weeks, and suggested that this would give staff time to review the
concerns. Councilman Magee clarified that the request was to continue the
item indefinitely, or off=calendar. Councilman Schiffner indicated that he
would like to have as much explanation as possible this evening. Mayor
Buckley requested succinct responses to the items presented.
City Attorney Leibold inquired if there was a copy of the final Mitigation
Monitoring Program in house. Assistant City Manager Best provided a
copy. City Attorney Leibold indicated that she believed the EIR
concluded that the traffic impacts and drainage impacts were mitigated
to a level of insignificance. She indicated that information attached to the
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letter suggested levels of service at intersections, absent the mitigation
measures proposed, however with the mitigation measures and installation
of improvements, there were no significant impacts that could not be
mitigated, so item no. 2 was incorrect.
City Attorney Leibold addressed item no. 3, and indicated that she did
not believe there was a violation of the Public Resources Code, as all
responsible agencies were included in the process and they all received a
notice of preparation, a notice of availability, a draft EIR, etc. She
indicated that staff had the printout of the UPS delivery for each
recipient. She suggested that there might have been a mishap at their end,
but the City had no procedural defect. Community Development
Director Brady noted the document showing the date and time the draft
EIR was delivered to each Agency.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that the EIR the Council certified
disagrees with item no. 4.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that she believed that the Mitigation
Monitoring Program includes mitigation measures compatible with the
tract map and related to the tract map in response to item no. 5.
Community Development Director Brady noted that the traffic study was
part of the EIR.
City Attorney Leibold advised that she did not believe that the City
improperly deferred mitigation measures, in response to item no. 6.
City Attorney Leibold commented that the City had adopted feasible and
appropriate measures; and did not believe the City had failed in that
regard, as suggested in item no. 7.
City Attorney Leibold commented that the Statement of Overriding
Considerations was adopted, although she did not recall if the drainage
and traffic were included. Mayor Buckley mentioned that it did mention
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traffic. City Attorney Leibold indicated that if they were not mitigated,
they were included in the Statement of Overriding Considerations, as
questioned in item no. 8.
City Attorney Leibold responded to item no. 9, noting that the Mitigation
Monitoring Program was included with the EIR and she felt it complied
with CEQA and was adequate.
City Attorney Leibold addressed item no. 10, and indicated that the EIR
did consider a range of alternatives, so it was the City position to
disagree with item no. 10.
City Attorney Leibold responded to item no. 11, indicated that it did
address the impacts under the CEQA guidelines.
City Attorney Leibold stressed that she had limited opportunity to
review the items as presented, so there might be additional comments from
the experts who conducted the studies.
Community Development Director Brady addressed item nos. 10 and 11,
and noted that the document related to this item was a supplemental EIR,
and under CEQA some items are not required or applicable. City Attorney
Leibold concurred.
Councilman Magee questioned the level of communication late this
afternoon, and inquired if there were documents after 2:30 this afternoon.
Engineering Manager Seumalo indicated that he was in communication with
the Transportation Director regarding the Specific Plan conditions, and
they were Faxed to show the requirements, with the last documents being
sent about 2:30 or 3:00 p.m. Councilman Magee indicated that he had
confirmed that the information was in their hands this afternoon, and
reiterated that the letter was received at 6:35 p.m. and it said they had not
seen any conditions of approval. He suggested that based on the
information presented the letter was moot at this point.
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Mayor Buckley requested input from Mr. Stahovich. Mr. Stahovich
indicated that there had been contact on August 10`h and August 17th, and
had not heard from the City. He further indicated that they got a letter
dated August 19th, from the City Manager, saying that there were no
concerns. He indicated that letter was sent about 5:30 p.m. on Thursday,
and no one was in on Friday, so he talked to staff on Monday. He noted that
he talked to Councilman Magee on Monday, and clarified that there were
two separate issues, being engineering issues and CEQA issues. He
stressed that the CEQA issues were still outstanding, and as of yesterday
copies of the draft EIR and final EIR were couriered over. He commented
that Flood Control was separate from the County, and they had not received
the materials. He advised that the Board's action was this morning about
11 or 11:30 a.m.; and the letter from Transportation, although the issue of
conditions of approval was moot, the rest of the letter stood. He
indicated that there was a specific concern that the EIR called for off-site
mitigation, but the off-site mitigation was through TUMF and City
generated fees, and the TUMF does not mitigate project level impacts. He
commented that some of the issues have been addressed, but a lot of the
issues are intertwining. He stressed that he had tried to have open
communications since August 10th. He noted that the City Manager was on
vacation this week, so it was not possible to meet this week either.
City Attorney Leibold reiterated that there was verification that the notice of
preparation and the EIR were delivered to the Flood Control District, as
well as the County. She noted that the final report had a letter from
Transportation, and the responses were incorporated into the EIR.
Councilman Hickman questioned what Mr. Stahovich wanted the
Council to do. Mr. Stahovich indicated that Flood Control wanted two
weeks, but the County would like the matter off calendar. He indicated
that he was not sure how long it would take to resolve the issues. He
advised that he was available to meet with staff and get the discussions done
as quickly as possible and two weeks should be sufficient.
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Councilman Magee noted that he was concerned that the applicant said they
reached out to the Supervisor's office and received no communication in
response. Mr. Stahovich indicated that Steve Sheldon called and said he was
representing Laing Homes; and suggested giving him a call if there were
any questions. Councilman Magee inquired if there were any other
contacts. Mr. Stahovich indicated that he was not aware of any other
contacts.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley indicated that since she had missed the last
meeting, she had been reading the letters back and forth and keeping
current with staff. She noted that she understood that the County was
satisfied at one point. Assistant City Manager Best indicated that when
staff spoke with Flood Control yesterday, they appeared to be satisfied.
She indicated that staff had couriered a copy of the EIR over to Flood
Control as well. Community Development Director Brady clarified that
staff did have contact with the County staff on August 12th, only two days
after the last meeting. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley inquired who staff was in
contact with. Community Development Director Brady indicated that it
was with John Perez, regarding the meeting and a discussion on Bundy
Canyon Road. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley questioned the outcome of that
contact. Community Development Director Brady indicated that they set
up a meeting for September 8th. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley questioned Mr.
Filler regarding his contact with the County. Mr. Filler indicated that
it started in middle of June or July, 2003, with the notice of preparation. He
further indicated that they received a letter from Flood Control and were
assisting staff with responses, as needed, on the letters from the last
meeting. He noted that they also met during the MSHCP and received a
letter of compliance from the County. He advised that they had also
submitted HEGS analysis and were working with staff to review the
document and get a response, which was recently received.
Mayor Buckley questioned the notice of preparation delivery verification.
Community Development Director Brady confirmed that it went out by
certified mail. Mayor Buckley inquired if the same was true for the EIR.
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Community Development Director Brady indicated that it was sent by UPS.
Councilman Schiffner commented that a project such as this would be
different from the one proposed several years ago. He noted that the
project previously went beyond this point in the approval process, so the
County was a little late on this objection. He commented that this was a
difference of opinion, but questioned if the concerns today were actually
issues to be mitigated at this time. He inquired if there would be another
chance to address them in the approval process. He noted that there were
still final tract maps to be approved. Community Development Director
Brady indicated that with regard to the flood control issues, they would be
handled prior to the final map. He further indicated that the transportation
would be addressed as the project was being developed, with the traffic
signals installed based on the number of units completed. He commented
that a variety of items would be addressed, as the project moved through the
process. Councilman Schiffner inquired if there were any issues for which
this would be the last chance to review. Community Development
Director Brady indicated that there would still be opportunities for
discussion and staff would be working with the applicant and the other
agencies to get the approvals as well. Councilman Schiffner indicated that
it was very possible that the objection at this meeting was a question of bad
timing. Community Development Director Brady indicated that some of
the questions will and have been addressed in the EIR and the conditions of
approval. He noted a comment in the letter from Mr: Johnson regarding
intersections, and indicated that the statement was correct, but the tables do
not include the improvements for the project. He noted that the General
Plan showed the levels as acceptable.
Councilman Hickman inquired if the project were approved by the City,
whether the County could stop it. City Attorney Leibold indicated that the
County or any party could file a CEQA challenge as threatened in the letter.
Councilman Hickman questioned the request for a two week continuance.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that the difficulty was that the EIR had been
certified and the letters presented post date the comment period and
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certification. She advised that it was the Council's discretion if they
wanted to continue the matter. She indicated that she was not sure that the
response was adequate for the CEQA issues. Councilman Hickman
questioned the lawsuit.
Councilman Magee indicated that this was a serious question, and the
letter indicated that if the City moved forward before the issues were
addressed, it would leave the County a few alternatives. He questioned
the alternatives mentioned, noting that the matter could either be continued
or move forward. Mr. Stahovich indicated that he could not disclose the
discussion in Closed Session, but noted the possible topics. Councilman
Magee noted that either way there was the potential that they would move
forward on a CEQA challenge. Mr. Stahovich indicated that they were
willing to work with the City, but the problem was that when the comments
were sent, they were never received. He noted that had been the problem
all along, and stressed that there were a number of one-way
correspondences. He indicated that they tried to get through the EIR today
and they noted that some comments were included, but they were requesting
a couple of weeks to determine if there were responses and if they were
adequate. He noted that he heard and saw in memos that some of the
issues might be able to be worked out. He indicated that the clock was
running and there was not a lot of opportunity to be sure the matters were
adequately addressed. He commented that the transportation issues and a
lot of the mitigation measures had been deferred. He noted that he did not
know what was in the developer agreement, but the bottom line was that if
the roads and drainage were worked out he did not want the County or the
City left holding the bag for improvements. Councilman Magee inquired if
the project moved forward, whether the County would continue to process
the information separate from the potential litigation. Mr. Stahovich
indicated that he was not sure how the Board would proceed. Councilman
Magee questioned past practice. Mr. Stahovich indicated that their past
practice was to avoid litigation at all costs. Councilman Magee indicated
that he trusted that staff would process the project appropriately, but it was
unfortunate that the information was received at 6:35 p.m. He noted that he
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was hearing from Legal Counsel and City staff that the project was o.k..,
and from Mr. Stahovich that he thought we could get there, and they wanted
to avoid litigation at all costs. He expressed hopes that either way, the
County would take a serious look at the project. Assistant City Manager
Best questioned Mr. Stahovich, in that this was an amendment to the
existing specific plan; would they approve of the existing specific plan
with the higher intensity use as it was presently on the books. Mr.
Stahovich indicated that a lot had been learned in the past ten years, but the
Statute of Limitations had run out on the original approval. He noted that
every environmental process reopened the gate again. He expressed
concern that everyone would continue to learn and apply the appropriate
standards.
Councilman Hickman inquired if Mr. Stahovich was specifically
asking for only two more weeks. Mr. Stahovich confirmed.
MOVED BY HICKMAN, SECONDED BY BUCKLEY TO CONTINUE
THIS ITEM FOR TWO WEEKS.
Councilman Magee inquired if this motion was successful, how would the
same exercise be prevented at the next meeting. Councilman Hickman
indicated that he did not appreciate communications coming in at 6 p.m.
Councilman Magee noted that the same thing happened at the last meeting.
Councilman Schiffner indicated that approval would not stop the County's
efforts or the process. He reiterated that the things being questioned would
come up for approval at a later date, so there was no reason to put it off. He
stressed that the project had been going on for over teri years, and now the
County believed the plan that was greatly reduced, was not as good as the
old one. He indicated that he was in favor of moving ahead and letting the
process continue. He stressed that they would not build anything that was
not in compliance.
Councilman Hickman indicated that he saw two distinct groups, and
conciliatory action was required. He suggested giving the County two
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more weeks and that would be it; but stressed that the City would need
the County some time down the road.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley indicated that after reading the letter that was just
delivered, she would note that this was years into this project, the first
reading had already been done and the County decided to jump in at the
eleventh hour. She commented that there had been a lot of discussion and
what she was hearing was not what she had been told this week by staff.
She indicated that she trusts City staff, as they have not failed her this far
regarding conversations with the County. She asked City Attorney Leibold
at the 11 items mentioned by Mr. Stahovich. City Attorney Leibold
indicated that there was a real live, present threat of litigation regarding an
item scheduled for discussion, so the Council could go to Closed Session
for further clarification. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley requested a Closed Session
discussion.
THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED TO
CLOSED SESSION AT 8:07 P.M.
THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 8:29 P.M.
City Attorney Leibold reported that the Council met in Closed Session
regarding threatened litigation, with no reportable action.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley thanked the City Attorney for clarifying the
relevant issues, and after that review she found that the County could file a
lawsuit if they chose to, as they still had the prerogative under CEQA.
She expressed concern with the County stepping in at the 11`~ hour and
asking that the item be pulled.
Mayor Buckley called for the question to continue this item to the
next meeting.
THE FOREGOING MOTION FAILED BY A VOTE TO 2 TO 3 WITH
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COUNCILMEMBER KELLEY, MAGEE AND SCHIFFNER CASTING
THE DISSENTING VOTES.
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY KELLEY TO ADOPT
ORDINANCE NO. 1126, UPON SECOND READING BY TITLE ONLY:
ORDINANCE NO. 1126
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING THE EAST LEAK SPECIFIC
PLAN AMENDMENT N0.6.
UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: HICKMAN, KELLEY,
MAGEE, SCHIFFNER
NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ABSTAIN: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
32. Second Reading; -Ordinance No. 1127 -Development Agreement
Amendment -Laing Homes. (F:150.2)
Assistant City Manager Best explained that this item goes with the
previously approved specific plan. She indicated that if there were
comments or concerns, staff could answer questions.
Carmella Loelkes expressed support.
Edith Stafford, 29700 Hursh, indicated that she was disappointed in this
Council over a project like this. She stressed the existence of a Priolo zone
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and earthquake faults and suggested that no one seemed to care. She
indicated that there was the potential for 100 and 500 year floods, and the
Council only seemed to care about the money. She suggested that was what
this project was all about, was money. She indicated that she had some
questions. She commented that she wondered if all of the signatures were
included for the permits, suggesting that FEMA, Fish & Wildlife and Fish &
Game should all have input into the project because they were part of the
origina1404 permit. She suggested that if they were left out, the City could
probably look there for lawsuits as well. She questioned why the City was
creating lawsuits, since the taxpayers would have to foot the bill. She
indicated that someone had to do something about it and it appeared the
citizens would have to do so. She stressed that representatives were elected
to look out for the taxpayers money; and indicated that she did not agree
that this project was in the best interest of the public. She questioned the
rush to approve it and suggested that it made the project suspicious. She
inquired why it could not wait two more weeks. She noted that the County
sent letters over a year ago and got no response, and the County only
received their EIR this morning. She questioned the sense of fair play, and
noted that she did not like unfair play and would fight against it. She
indicated that she would treat this item the same as anything that was not
right, and suggested that there was an ulterior reason for this action. She
suggested that the taxpayers would be spending money for lawsuits and the
lawyers would be the ones to benefit, including the City Attorney.
Mayor Buckley indicated that there was the same County argument from the
last discussion. He noted that there was a memo on this item from the City
Attorney today. He commented that he was sure it was all well and good,
but everyone should be held to the same standard; and the Council should
not be provided the information at the last minute. He indicated that this
was a bad deal for the City. Councilman Hickman indicated that it was bad
for the RDA and the citizens because it was not returning the incentive.
Councilman Schiffner commented that if this project did not go
forward there would be no RDA money or DAG money.
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MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER TO ADOPT
ORDINANCE NO. 1127, UPON SECOND READING BY TITLE ONLY:
Councilman Mage thanked Mr. Stahovich for coming to the meeting and
for his efforts in the intervening week. He expressed hopes that Mr.
Stahovich would take back the desire of the Council to work together,
protect public safety and give the Valley something it can be proud of.
ORDINANCE NO. 1127
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, REPEALING ORDINANCE
N0.956 AND APPROVING AN AMENDMENT IN PART AND
TERMINATION IN PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT
AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND EASTLAKE
COMMUNITY BUILDERS.
UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS; KELLEY, MAGEE,
SCHIFFNER
NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS: HICKMAN,
BUCKLEY
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ABSTAIN: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
33. Fire Station Naming Committee. (F:1273)(X:59.1)
Mayor Buckley noted that this was for the new fire station; and as was done
at McVicker, this was to appoint a fire station naming committee.
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Mayor Pro Tem Kelley appointed John Gonzales, noting that she would
have to verify his availability.
Councilman Schiffner appointed Ray Knight.
Councilman Hickman indicated that he would have to come up with a name
later.
Councilman Magee appointed Tom Hunt, President of the Volunteer Fire
Department.
Mayor Buckley appointed another Volunteer Fire representative Larry
Unsworth.
City Treasurer Weber indicated that he had not chosen a name yet.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE COMMITTEE AND THE
APPOINTMENTS AS RECOMMENDED.
34. Allocation to Lake Elsinore Marine Search and Rescue (LEMSAR)_for
FY 2004-2005. (F:30.1)(X:108.1)(X:92.1)
Lake & Aquatic Resources Kilroy noted that the LEMSAR was anon-profit
organization that supported the City and the Sheriff Lake Patrol. He
indicated that they were primarily made up of shoreline property owners in
support of Lake safety. He explained that the Sheriff oversees their
activities and provides workers compensation insurance. He noted that
their personal expenses could be quite high, particularly with the cost of
fuel and equipment. He recommended approval of the allocation in support
of their efforts, and noted that Gil Lerma was in the audience to respond to
any questions about LEMSAR
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley commented that LEMSAR did a wonderful job and
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indicated that it was a pleasure to support this allocation.
Councilman Hickman inquired if these funds were allocated in the budget.
Administrative Services Director Pressey indicated that this would be in
addition to the budget.
MOVED BY MAGEE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE FUNDING FOR LEMSAR IN THE
AMOUNT OF $5,000.
Mayor Buckley thanked LEMSAR for their efforts.
35. League of California Cities Annual Conference -City Representatives.
(F:108.8)
Mayor Buckley noted that this Conference would be held in September with
Councilmembers Schiffner and Hickman planning on attending, as well as
possibly himself.
MOVED BY BUCKLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY TO DESIGNATE
COUNCILMAN HICKMAN AS THE CITY'S DELEGATE AND FLAG
BEARER.
Assistant City Manager Best noted that whoever was chosen as the delegate,
needed to vote on League Policy issues.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BYA VOTE OF 4 TO 1 WITH
HICKMAN CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE.
36. Maintenance Vendor Agreements. (F:68.1)(X:128.3)
Assistant City Manager Best explained that this item was an effort by staff
to bring all agreements into standard language, as requested by the City
Council. She advised that staff met with the City Attorney to input; and the
proposal outlined the method to apply for on-call maintenance services.
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She detailed the types of services and noted the document presented for
review.
Mayor Buckley indicated that he thought it was a nice first step, but
suggested considering maximum percentages per business and maybe a
three year update.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER TO APPROVE THE
MAINTENANCE SERVICE AGREEMENT AND APPROVE THE
QUALIFICATION PROCESS FOR MAINTENANCE SERVICE
CONTRACTORS AS DESCRIBED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
Councilman Hickman commented that he liked that this would emphasize
Lake Elsinore businesses.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
37. Design Review No. R 2004-04 for the "Ramsgate Apartment Homes" b~
Fairfield Development, L.P. (F:138.2)
Community Development Director Brady explained that this item was for
352 apartment homes, located one mile north of I-15 on the south side of
Highway 74. He detailed the site plan which would include 14 buildings, a
pool and recreation facility. He detailed the access points, noting that the
project was just over 17 acres in size, with a density of just over 20 units per
acre. He noted that it would be well under the allowed density.
Mayor Buckley questioned the detail on the location. Community
Development Director Brady outlined the location. Mayor Buckley further
questioned an area adjacent to the project. Mr. Brady indicated that the
area in question would be single family homes, in the County area.
Councilman Magee indicated that his only concern was that there were
currently several businesses in the County area, and once this project was
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elevated above Highway 74, the new residents might be impacted by the
dust and light from the existing businesses. He suggested a condition be
included in the rental agreement to acknowledge the existence of businesses
and had the right to do so.
David Wright, applicant, introduced Ed McCoy representing Fairfield
Development. Mr. McCoy indicated such a condition would be fine with
them, as they had done it elsewhere near agriculture or airports.
Councilman Magee inquired if he could run the proposed language by staff.
Mr. McCoy confirmed.
Councilman Hickman indicated that he was glad to see that they were using
recycled water, but they were also using drip irrigation. He expressed
concern with recycled water getting into the Lake. He also questioned the
affordable housing. City Attorney Leibold indicated that under the MOU,
they would be paying for affordable housing on lots 256, 258 and 259. She
clarified that they were to be included within the project, but there was an
opportunity for them to make a payment of $2,500 per unit, not to exceed
$392,000. Councilman Hickman questioned if they would have wood
fences or view fences. Mr. Wright indicated that the majority of the project
had slopes around it, and those would be retaining walls with railing on top;
and otherwise there would be no fencing. Councilman Hickman suggested
round galvanized tubing. He questioned if this company was associated
with Fairfield Inns. Mr. McCoy indicated that they were not associated.
Mayor Buckley questioned the affordable housing. Mr. McCoy indicated
that they were paying the in-lieu fee for 157 units for the entire specific
plan.
Councilman Hickman. inquired if the drains in the street would be covered
to protect them. Community Development Director Brady indicated that
there would be filters required to address the run-off.
MOVED BY HICKMAN, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER THAT THE CITY
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COUNCIL AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
APPROVING DESIGN REVIEW NO. R 2004-04, BASED ON THE
FOLLOWING FINDINGS AND EXHIBITS `B' THROUGH `G', AND
SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL:
Findings
1. The project, as conditioned and approved, will comply with the goals and objectives of
the General Plan and the Ramsgate Specific Plan Third Revision in which the project is
located. The Planning Commission has reviewed the project with these documents and
finds that with conditions of approval these objectives have been met.
2. The project complies with the design directives contained in Section 17.82.060 and all
other applicable provisions of the Municipal Code, and with standards and guidelines
contained in the Ramsgate Specific Plan Third Revision and its Design Guidelines. The
Planning Commission has reviewed the project with adjacent neighborhoods and finds
that it complements their quality of construction, provides a pleasing use of color and
materials, demonstrates a respect for privacy and views, and offers visually attractive
landscaping and monument treatments.
3. Conditions and safeguards pursuant to Section 17.82.070, including guazantees and
evidence of compliance with conditions, have been incorporated into the approval of the
subject project to ensure development of the property in accordance with the objectives of
this Chapter and the planning district in which the site is located. The Planning
Commission has approved conditions regarding architectural design and landscaping.
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL
PLANNING DIVISION
(Note: Fees listed in the Conditions of Approval are the best estimates available at the time of
approval. The exact fee amounts will be reviewed at the time of building permit issuance and
may be revised.)
1. Design Review approval for Residential Project No. R 2004-04 will lapse and be void unless
a building permit is issued within one (1) year of the approval date. The Community
Development Director may grant an extension of time for up to one (1) year prior to the
expiration of the initial Design Review. An application for a time extension and required fee
shall be submitted a minimum of one (1) month prior to the expiration date.
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2. All site improvements shall be constructed as indicated on the approved site plan with any
revisions as noted herein. Any other revisions to the approved site plan shall be subject to
approval of the Community Development Director or his designee.
3. The project shall not be constructed in phases unless a phasing plan is first reviewed and
approved by the Community Development Director and the Engineering Manager.
4. All site improvements shall be constructed as indicated on the approved building elevations
on file with the City for Design Review R 2004-04. Materials and colors depicted on the
approved materials boazds approved for R 2004-04 shall be used unless modified by the
applicant and approved by the Community Development Director or designee.
a. Building heights aze limited to three-stories and a maximum 42 feet.
5. Applicant shall comply with all applicable Ramsgate Specific Plan Third Revision and
Design Guidelines requirements and standazds, or where they aze silent, City Codes and
Ordinances.
6. Applicant shall comply with all applicable Mitigation Monitoring Program measures imposed
upon Tentative Tract Map No. 25479, as printed in Appendix "F" of Addendum No. 2 to the
Final Supplemental Environmental Impact Report for the Ramsgate Specific Plan.
7. The applicant shall comply with the mitigation measures of the Noise Control Analysis
prepazed by RBF Consulting, dated April 14, 2004.
8. Applicant shall comply with all conditions of approval of the underlying Tentative Tract Map
No. 25479 Revision No. 2.
a. A traffic signal shall be installed and be operational at the intersection of Street
"A" and State Highway 74, prior to Certificate of Occupancy of the 176`x'
apartment unit.
9. The project shall connect to sewer and meet all requirements of the Elsinore Valley
Municipal Water District (EVMWD). Applicant shall submit water and sewer plans to the
EVMWD and shall incorporate all district conditions and standards, including payment of
applicable water and sewer connection fees.
a. The applicant shall utilize recycled water for landscaping purposes, if available to
the site.
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10. The applicant shall comply with Conditions of Approval received from the Riverside County
Fire Department dated July 27, 2004.
11. The applicant shall participate in the Police Department's Crime Prevention Through
Environmental Design Program, with regards to proper lighting, natural surveillance, and
graffiti reduction.
12. The applicant shall provide a detailed Exterior Lighting Plan for review and approval by the
Community Development Director or his designee prior to issuance of building permits. Such
Plan shall indicate locations, fixture types with visual display, consistent with conceptual
designs as noted in landscape plans on file with the Planning Department, and in compliance
with City Codes.
13. A cash bond of $1,000.00 shall be required for any construction trailers placed on the site and
used during construction. The location of trailers is subject to review and approval by the
Community Development Director or his designee. Bonds will be released after removal of
trailers and restoration of the site to an acceptable state, subject to the approval of the
Community Development Director or designee.
14. The applicant shall meet affordable housing requirements imposed upon the project by the
Ramsgate Specific Plan, in accordance with the terms and conditions of the Development
Agreement and Memorandum of Understanding executed by the City and the property owner.
15. Garages shall be constructed to provide a minimum of nine-feet-six-inches by nineteen-feet-
six-inches (9'-6" x 19'-6") of interior clear space.
16. All theme walls are required to be coated with anti-graffiti paint.
17. Any interior retaining walls shall match perimeter stucco walls in color and style.
18. All signage, flags and banners shall be reviewed and approved by the Community
Development Director or his designee.
Prior to Issuance of GradingBuilding Permits
19. Prior to issuance of any precise grading permits or building permits, the applicant shall sign
and complete an "Aclmowledgment of Conditions," and shall return the executed original to
the Community Development Department for inclusion in the case records.
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20. Prior to issuance of a building permit, the applicant shall merge the underlying parcels.
21. Applicant shall comply with all requirements of the City's Grading Ordinance. Construction
generated dust and erosion shall be mitigated in accordance with the provisions of Municipal
Code Chapter 15.72 and using accepted control techniques. Interim erosion control measures
shall be provided thirty (30) days after the site's rough grading, as approved by the City
Engineer.
22. These Conditions of Approval shall be reproduced upon Page One of the Building Plans prior
to their acceptance by the Building and Safety Division.
23. The building addresses shall be a minimum of four inches (4") high and shall be easily visible
from the public right-of--way. Developer shall obtain street addresses for all project lots prior
to issuance of building permits. The addresses (in numerals at least four inches (4" high)
shall be displayed near the entrance and be visible from the front of the unit. Caze shall be
taken to select colors and materials that contrast with building walls or trim.
24. Prior to Building Pernits the Construction Supervisor shall meet with Planning Division staff
to review the Conditions of Approval.
25. Landscaping Plans and Irrigation Details for each plan shall be required, and a Cost Estimate
shall be submitted for review and approval by the City's Landscape Architect Consultant and
the Community Development Director or designee prior to issuance of building permits. A
Landscape Plan Check Fee and Inspection Fee shall be paid for the entire project at the time
of submittal.
a. Final landscape plan must be consistent with approved site plan.
b. Street tree species along State Route 74 and "A" Street shall be consistent within
the Ramsgate Specific Plan.
c. The design of the Ramsgate monumentation at the intersection of State Route 74
and "A" Street shall be consistent with the Ramsgate Specific Plan Third Revision
and Design Guidelines. Plans shall be submitted for review and approval by the
Community Development Director. Installation including landscaping shall be
completed prior to Certificate of Occupancy for the project.
d. The use of the Hong Kong Orchid tree is subject to further review and
approval by the City Landscape Architect. The applicant shall provide
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evidence that this specie survives in our climatic zone.
e. All trellises above tandem pazking spaces shall have plantings installed at a
sufficient size to result in "instant" growth.
f. All trees planted along State Highway 74 and along the boundary with the
Community Park to screen carports from public view shall be installed at a
sufficient size and canopy spread to result in "instant" growth.
g. Planting within fifteen feet (15') of ingress/egress points shall be no higher than
thirty-six-inches (36").
h. The landscape plan shall provide for ground cover, shrubs, and trees and meet all
requirements of the City's adopted Landscape Guidelines. Special attention shall
be given to the use of Xeriscape or drought resistant plantings with combination
drip irrigation system to prevent excessive watering.
All exposed slopes in excess of three feet in height within the subject site shall
have a permanent irrigation system and erosion control vegetation installed, as
approved by the Landscape Architect and Planning Division, prior to issuance of
certificate of occupancy.
25. Under the provisions of SB 50, the applicant shall pay school fees to the Lake Elsinore
Unified School District prior to issuance of building permits.
26. All mechanical and electrical equipment on the building shall be ground mounted, unless
properly screened by building parapet or other azchitectural features. All outdoor ground or
wall mounted utility equipment shall be consolidated in a central location and architecturally
screened along with substantial landscaping, subject to the approval of the Community
Development Director, prior to issuance of building permits. If the equipment is placed
behind fencing, landscaping will not be required.
Prior to Final Approval
27. The applicant shall meet all Conditions of Approval prior to the issuance of a Certificate of
Occupancy and release of utilities.
28. Prior to final approval, all wood fencing shall be painted or treated with ahigh-grade, solid
body, penetrating stain approved by the Community Development Director or his designee.
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29. Prior to the issuance of any Certificate of Occupancy, the applicant shall annex into
Community Facilities District No. 2003-1 and the Lighting and Landscape Maintenance
District No. 1 for City-maintained street lights and landscaped areas.
ENGINEERING DIVISION
30. Driveway entrance into the project shall be a minimum of forty (40) feet deep with no
parking or turning conflicts.
31. The property owner shall dedicate and improve full half-width right-of--way for Central
Avenue (S.R. 74) consistent with General Plan circulation requirements of 67-feet and 55-
feet half-width street improvements.
32. The property owner shall dedicate full half-width right-of--way for Street `A,' and construct
full half-width street improvements. Dimension of the dedication shall be consistent with
Ramsgate Specific Plan requirements.
33. Construct full half-width street improvements for Street `A.' Improvements shall be
consistent with Ramsgate Specific Plan requirements.
34. Provide railing or wrought iron fencing on top of all perimeter retaining walls adjacent to
parking, walking or driveway areas. Railing or wrought iron fencing shall be rated for
pedestrian safety.
35. Provide compaction reports for all fill slopes. Soils report shall be provided to confirm slope
stability with respect to structure surcharge.
36. All drainage shall be conveyed to the public right-of-way.
37. Provide detention for difference in storm run-off of the 100-year storm between the
developed and undeveloped stone water run-off.
38. Provide desiltation basin as a "first flush" measure for clean water run-off.
39. Comply with all conditions of underlying Tentative Tract Map No. 25479.
40. All Public Works requirements shall be complied with as a condition of development as
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specified in the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code (LEMC) prior to final map approval.
41. Underground water rights shall be dedicated to the City pursuant to the provisions of Section
16.52.030 (LEMC), and consistent with the City's agreement with the Elsinore Valley
Municipal Water District.
42. Pay all Capital Improvement and Plan Check fees (LEMC 16.34, Resolution 85-26).
43. Submit a "Will Serve" letter to the City Engineering Division from the applicable water
agency stating that water and sewer arrangements have been made for this project. Submit
this letter prior to final map approval.
44. Construct all public works improvements per approved street plans (LEMC 12.04). Plans
must be approved and signed by the City Engineer prior to final map approval (LEMC
16.34).
45. Street improvement plans and specifications shall be prepared by a Calif. Registered Civil
Engineer. Improvements shall be designed and constructed to Riverside County Road
Department Standazds, latest edition, and City Codes (LEMC 12.04 and 16.34).
46. Applicant shall enter into an agreement with the City for the construction of public works
improvements and shall post the appropriate bonds prior to final map approval.
47. Applicant shall obtain any necessary Caltrans permits and meet all Caltrans requirements.
48. Desirable design grade for local streets shall not exceed 9% unless otherwise approved by the
City Engineer.
49. Intersecting streets shall meet at a maximum grade of 6 % with a minimum approach landing
of fifty (50) feet in each direction.
50. Pay all fees and meet requirements of encroachment permit issued by the Engineering
Division for construction of public works improvements (LEMC 12.08 and Resolution 83-
78).
51. All compaction reports, grade certifications, monument certifications (with tie notes
delineated on 8 ''/z' x 11" Mylaz) shall be submitted to the Engineering Division before final
inspection of public works improvements will be scheduled and approved.
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52. The applicant shall install two (2) permanent bench marks to Riverside County Standazds and
at a location to be determined by City Engineer.
53. Applicant shall obtain all necessary off-site easements for off-site grading from the adjacent
property owners prior to issuance of grading permits.
54. Arrangements for relocation of utility company facilities (power poles, vaults, etc.) out of the
roadway or alley shall be the responsibility of the property owner or his agent.
55. Provide fire protection facilities as required in writing by Riverside County Fire.
56. Provide street lighting and show lighting improvements as part of street improvement plans
as required by the City Engineer.
57. Developer shall annex to the City's Street Lighting and landscaping Maintenance District.
58. Developer shall install blue reflective pavement markers in the street at all fire hydrant
locations.
59. Applicant shall submit a traffic control plan showing all traffic control devices for the site for
review and approval. All traffic control devices shall be installed prior to final inspection of
public improvements. This includes No Parking and Street Sweeping Signs.
60. All improvement plans shall be digitized. At Certificate of Occupancy applicant shall submit
tapes and/or discs which are compatible with City's ARC Info/GIS or developer to pay $300
per sheet for City digitizing.
61. All utilities except electrical over 12 kv shall be placed underground, as approved by the
serving utility.
62. Apply and obtain a grading permit with appropriate security prior to building permit issuance.
A grading plan signed and stamped by a Calif. Registered Civil Engineer shall be required if
the grading exceeds 50 cubic yazds or the existing flow pattern is substantially modified as
determined by the City Engineer. If the grading is less than 50 cubic yazds and a grading plan
is not required, a grading permit shall still be obtained so that a cursory drainage and flow
pattern inspection can be conducted before grading begins.
63. Provide soils, geology and seismic report including street design recommendations. Provide
final soils report showing compliance with recommendations.
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64. An Alquist-Priolo study shall be performed on the site to identify any hidden earthquake
faults and/or liquefaction zones present on-site, unless a study is already on file with the City
that addresses the site.
65. All grading shall be done under the supervision of a geotechnical engineer and he shall certify
all slopes steeper than 2 to 1 for stability and proper erosion control. All manufactured slopes
greater than 30 ft. in height shall be contoured.
66. Prior to commencement of grading operations, applicant to provide to the City with a map of
all proposed haul routes to be used for movement of export material. Such routes shall be
subject to the review and approval of the City Engineer.
67. Applicant to provide to the City a photographic baseline record of the condition of all
proposed public City haul roads. In the event of damage to such roads, applicant shall pay
full cost of restoring public roads to the baseline condition. A bond may be required to
ensure payment of damages to the public right-of--way, subject to the approval of the City
Engineer.
68. Individual lot drainage shall be conveyed to a public facility or accepted by adjacent property
owners by a letter of drainage acceptance or conveyed to a drainage easement.
69. On-site drainage facilities located outside of road right-of--way should be contained within
drainage easements. Drainage easements shall be kept free of buildings and obstructions.
70. All natural drainage traversing site shall be conveyed through the site, or shall be collected
and conveyed by a method approved by the City Engineer.
71. Meet all requirements of LEMC 15.64 regarding flood hazard regulations.
72. Meet all requirements of LEMC 15.68 regarding floodplain management.
73. The applicant to provide FEMA elevation certificates prior to certificate of occupancies, if
required by the Engineering Division.
74. Submit Hydrology and Hydraulic Reports for review and approval by City Engineer and the
Riverside County Flood Control District prior to approval of final map. Developer shall
mitigate any flooding and/or erosion caused by development of site and diversion of
drainage.
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75. All drainage facilities in this project shall be constructed to Riverside County Flood Control
District Standards.
76. Stonn drain inlet facilities shall be appropriately stenciled to prevent illegally dumping in the
drain system, the wording and stencil shall be approved by the City Engineer.
77. Roof and yard drains will not be allowed to outlet through cuts in the street curb. Roof drains
should drain to a landscaped area when ever feasible.
78. Ten-yeaz storm runoff should be contained within the curb and the 100-year storm runoff
should be contained within the street right-of--way. When either of these criteria is exceeded,
drainage facilities should be installed.
79. A drainage acceptance letter will be necessary from the downstream property owners for
outletting the proposed stonnwater run-off on private property.
80. Developer shall be subject to all Master Planned Drainage fees and will receive credit for all
Master Planned Drainage facilities constructed.
81. Applicant will be required to install BMP's using the best available technology to mitigate
any urban pollutants from entering the watershed.
82. Applicant shall provide the city with proof of his having filed a Notice of Intent with the
Regional Water Quality Control Board for the National Pollutant Discharge Elimination
System (NPDES) program with a storm water pollution prevention plan prior to issuance of
grading permits. The applicant shall provide a SWPPP for post construction which describes
BMP's that will be implemented for the development including maintenance responsibilities.
83. Applicant shall obtain approval from Santa Ana Regional Water Quality Control Board for
their storm water pollution prevention plan including approval of erosion control for the
grading plan prior to issuance of grading permits. The applicant shall provide a SWPPP for
post construction which describes BMP's that will be implemented for the development
including maintenance responsibilities.
84. Education guidelines and Best Management Practices (BMP) shall be provided to residents of
the development in the use of herbicides, pesticides, fertilizers as well as other environmental
awareness education materials on good housekeeping practices that contribute to protection
of stormwater quality and met the goals of the BMP in Supplement "A" in the Riverside
County NPDES Drainage Area Management Plan.
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$5. Applicant shall provide first flush BMP's using the best available technology that will reduce
storm water pollutants from parking areas and driveway aisles.
86. Intersection site distance shall meet the design criteria of the CALTRANS Design Manual
(particular attention should be taken for intersections on the inside of curves). If site distance
can be obstructed, a special limited use easement must be recorded to limit the slope, type of
landscaping and wall placement.
87. Intersecting streets on the inside radius of a curve will only be permitted when adequate sight
distance is verified by a registered civil engineer.
88. All open space and slopes except for public parks and schools and flood control district
facilities, outside the public right-of--way will be owned and maintained by either a home
owner's association or private property owner.
89. Existing access easements over property must be addressed to the satisfaction of the easement
owners prior to final map approval.
90. If the CFD has not been formed at building permit, then the developer shall enter into an
agreement with the City to mitigation drainage impacts by payment of a Drainage Mitigation
fee. Per recommendations of the Master Drainage Plan developed by RCFCD for the West
End, the developer shall deposit $4,000 per acre. If a Drainage Assessment District is formed
in the West End and that drainage fee is lower than the present fee, a partial refund will be
returned.
_91. All waste material, debris, vegetation and other rubbish generated during cleaning,
demolition, clear and grubbing or other phases of the construction shall be disposed of at
appropriate recycling centers. The applicant should contract with CR&R Inc. for recycling
and storage container services, but the applicant may use the services of another recycling
vendor. Another recycling vendor, other than CR&R Inc., cannot charge the applicant for bin
rental or solid waste disposal. If the applicant is not using CR&R Inc. for recycling services
and the recycling material is either sold or donated to another vendor, the applicant shall
supply proof of debris
disposal at a recycling center, including verification of tonnage by certified weigh master
tickets.
92. Prior to the issuance of the first building permit, the applicant shall annex into Community
Facilities District No. 2003-1 to offset the annual negative fiscal impacts of the project on
public safety operations and maintenance issues in the City.
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93. Prior to the issuance of the first building permit, the applicant shall annex into Lighting and
Landscape Maintenance District No. 1 to offset the annual negative fiscal impacts of the
project on public right-of--way landscaped areas to be maintained by the City, and for street
lights in the public right-of--way for which the City will pay for electricity and a maintenance
fee to Southern California Edison.
94. In accordance with the City's Franchise Agreement for waste disposal & recycling, the
applicant shall be required to contract with CR&R Inc. for removal and disposal of all waste
material, debris, vegetation and other rubbish generated during cleaning, demolition, clear
and grubbing or all other phases of construction.
39. Statement of Qualifications for Special Audit Enaa eg merit.
(F:24.1)(X44.1)(X:116.1)
Mayor Buckley noted that a few weeks ago the City Council approved a
sub-committee for this effort, to return to Council for approval. He noted
that the staff recommendation was based on three qualified firms. He
clarified that on Friday the sub-committee mailed out a request for proposal
and time frames for submittal. He explained that there was clarification of
what to audit and the time frame for completion of the audit. He suggested
that the action on Friday would render this item moot.
Councilman Magee commented that the original intent was to put together a
sub-committee, with Council working or directing staff to put together a
Request for Proposals, but instead there was a Request for Qualifications.
He fitrther commented that at the last Council meeting, he presented a list of
33 firms, some of which were on the original list. He noted that three of
the auditing firms he recommended had not received copies of the RFQ. He
indicated that when he contacted them, they expressed interest in
participating in the process, so he and the Mayor did letters and developed a
scope of work which they sent to the six auditors. He advised that the letter
requested a response by September 7`h, so they could take action to select a
firm on September 14`h, and have the report by October 15th. He concurred
that this item was moot based on the proposed plan, as the sub-committee
was moving forward and should be able to report back on September 14th
Edith Stafford, 29700 Hursh, indicated that this item raised suspicions, and
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she was going on record saying, that in her opinion it was very hard to
believe so many letters went out with so little response. She indicated that
- she was glad that someone followed up on whether the letters had been
received. She commented that she had been suspicious for almost a month.
She questioned if a guilty person would investigate themselves. She
suggested that the only way to stop the foxes from eating up the chickens
was to remove the fox.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley commented that at the 4 p.m. meeting, it was her
understanding and she brought it up that the audit would include City
Council Credit Cards, which she supported. She indicated that the Minutes
of the prior discussion on June 29th were pulled, and she noted page 14
reading the following excerpt:
"Mayor Pro Tem Kelley requested clarification if that included Council
credit cards. Councilman Magee reiterated it would include all City
issued credit cards."
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley requested that when a firm was chosen, the Council
action be upheld, as that was what the majority voted for. She indicated
that in another vein, the City Council was elected to set policy and the
majority does that. She indicated that at the prior meeting, was when it was
decided to get a professional firm to do the auditing. She noted that the
original proposal was for asub-committee of Councilman Mage, City
Treasurer Weber and Mayor Buckley to do the audit, but the Council voted
not to do that, and instead go to a professional firm for the audit. She
stressed that Council made an unanimous vote and it was much to her
dismay that a Council Member and the City Treasurer took it upon
themselves to go and interrogate the Assistant City Manager and run their
own investigation. She indicated that such action was not authorized by
the City Council, it was against the vote of the City Council and not within
the right of the City Treasurer to do. She indicated that the City Council
oversaw the City Manager, the City Attorney and half of the City Clerk; so
if there was a staff person involved, the proper process would be to go to
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City Manager to investigate and report back. She noted that the City
Treasurer talked with the Assistant City Manager for one and one half hours,
taking her away from City business. She indicated that Ms. Best was open
and honest with him and requested that any written follow-up go back to
her, but instead it went to the newspaper. She indicated that his report was
racked with personal interpretations and judgments, and that was why she
wanted an outside auditor. She indicated that it was reprehensible that the
City Treasurer would step out of bounds to interrogate a staff member to the
point that she had grounds to claim harassment. She stressed that this was
against the Council action, clearly against direction, and she was concerned
that there could be legal ramifications. She indicated that she wanted the
Council to know that this bothered her and upset her, and was not the action
they voted on. She suggested that this action was to the point where a
reprimand was appropriate. She noted that Assistant City Manager Best
probably had comments on this matter as well.
Mayor Buckley noted that the original plan discussed the four persons to
choose the audit firm, not conduct the audit. He clarified that any resident
could ask for public records. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley noted that during the
discussion a lot of time was spent discussing that she did not want the
Council of the Treasurer to be part of the audit team, and instead wanted a
professional audit. She further noted that any member of the public could
ask for records and the City Treasurer could do so as well, but she
questioned the right to interrogate a City employee, and then making a
judgment and turning it over to the newspaper. Mayor Buckley requested a
comment by Assistant City Manager Best.
Assistant City Manager Best suggested that City Treasurer Weber have the
opportunity to comment first.
City Treasurer Weber indicated that he went into this item because it was
not Health/Wellness, but a trip. He commented that any person could ask
for documents and noted recent article in the paper and Elsinore Magazine.
He indicated that this was so obvious that it was something other than a
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vacation. He indicated that he looked into it and asked if she wanted to talk
about it and stop the innuendo in the newspapers. He noted that he wanted
the truth known about what happened on the trip and any disciplinary action
required, taken. He indicated that something should happen with that. He
indicated that he got the records and Ms. Best indicated that she would meet
with him. He commented that it was not an interrogation, and he was not a
jail warden getting it out of someone. He indicated that it was a very cordial
conversation and Ms. Best was the one who said to look at the receipts for a
dinner. He noted that she did not remember it in the first interview, but did
on a follow-up interview. He indicated that she did not have the names at
that time. He further commented that initially she had five days per diem
to meet with Mr. Gibbons on their Economic Gardening Program; but
questioned if it could have been done over the Internet or via e-mail. He
indicated that she went for five days per diem and took the RV with the
family. He noted that she drove in on Sunday to meet on Tuesday and
Wednesday. He indicated that she spent part of the morning, lunch and part
of the afternoon with Mr. Gibbons, but did not return for the second day as
planned. He commented that she never made any notes or talked to anyone.
He indicated that the real problem was that she had five days per diem, but
took three days vacation. He indicated that this was not a fact of the $126,
but no one should go on vacation using per diem. He commented that his
report was very factual with no accusations, and he only said that the policy
should be changed to compensate for situations like this. He indicated that
he never said that she should have been fired; but in the interview she said it
was the same price to fly, as it was to drive there. He suggested that since
she stayed only one day, she could have gone Monday, met with them and
flown back for $450, for a savings of about $500. He suggested that there
were probably other reasons for doing what she did, as she said she got a
chance to go with her family. He noted a luncheon with the people in
Littleton, and commented that she said she bought snacks to go see the
people. He indicated that what she said was for lunch was actually for a
dinner with an unknown businessman. He indicated that he was going to
give it to the audit team for review. He commented that Councilwoman
Kelley was like a mother hen protecting her chicks. He indicated that Ms.
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Best was a professional, and to say that he was harassing her was absurd.
He indicated that if there was a lawsuit, he did not want the City Attorney
representing him. He suggested that it would not be adequate legal
representation. He commented that he was really tired of the comments, as
Ms. Best took a trip, and people could look at the report and make their own
decisions on what happened. He indicated that the truth was out there and
it was done, with no further investigation.
Councilman Magee indicated that the trip in question was asked for by Ms.
Best and approved by her boss, the City Manager who was a City Council
employee. He suggested if there was a problem with this situation, it
needed to be taken up with the City Manager. He noted that was the point
of the audit, to find out what past practices have been. He indicated that he
would hold his opinion of the trip and review it after the audit team looked
at it. He suggested that with respect to Mr. Weber's involvement, the
Council recently passed a policy regarding the Treasurer, who can
coordinate requests for staff time through the City Manager; and the City
Manager will request direction if there is a conflict with the City Council
priorities. He indicated that if the City Manager felt the interview was
against the priorities of the Council, he should have stopped the meeting, as
the policy is quite clear; however he was not present to defend himself. He
stressed if the discussion was not appropriate, he could put an end to it. He
indicated that his problem with City Treasurer Weber was that the press
releases should be issued per set policy, and he was not sure how the press
got this story. He noted that he was simply going to refer the matter to the
audit team, and was shocked to see it in the newspaper. City Treasurer
Weber indicated that he was not sure how the press got the report, nor how
Elsinore Magazine got it. Councilman Magee indicated that with respect to
future litigation, he was not sure what the cause of action would be because
he was not sure of the damages, as one could not put a price tag on
embarrassment. He commented that he could see no potential litigation
from this matter, whatsoever. He indicated that the reason the discussion
got to this point was Mayor Pro Tem Kelley wanting to sanction the City
Treasurer. He stressed that this was the direction the Council voted on for
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the independent audit. He reiterated that there was a Statement of
Qualification request that had already been mailed out, and he was very
concerned that staff did not follow direction. He commented that he
provided additional audit teams to add to the list and three did not receive
the information. He stressed that the process needed to stay with the sub-
committee and audit team, who would bring something back on the 14~'.
He asked that everyone wait for the results of the audit and hand the matter
appropriately and professionally.
Assistant City Manager Best noted that there were a couple of issues
pertinent to this item and noted that with regard to the three additional
firms, Mr. Pressey made every effort to get them sent out, but she was happy
to follow-up. She commented that this discussion was very interesting and
somewhat like a game of telephone. She explained that as information is
passed on, it becomes a completely different story. She indicated that City
Treasurer Weber made a serious effort to try to stop the innuendo relative to
the audit; and noted that she believed that when he started it was his intent
to resolve those issues, City Council action aside. She commented that it
was very interesting that she let Mr. Weber know that if something was in
writing to the Council, it was a public document; and noted that she did ask
to see his findings prior to it being distributed, but that did not happened.
She noted that she received the document at the same time as the Council.
She further noted that once the discussions began, they were hard to stop.
She indicated that if there were questions, she was more than happy to
answer them, as she did not think she had done anything wrong. She
stressed that she had nothing to hide, but noted that at this point all of the
staff was feeling ill at ease. She indicated that it was a matter of trust, and
there was an obvious lack of trust that might, or might not be justified.
She stressed that staff was here to lead the City and she hoped to raise the
level of public discussion. She indicated that the trip was interesting, but
that was not what the community wanted to hear. She indicated that the
public wanted to see leadership and trust, and she had worked in the field
for more than 25 years and had never had issues such as this come up. She
indicated that she signed many large checks on behalf of the City and if she
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was not trusted, she would like the Council to let her know.
Mayor Buckley referred back to the agenda item, and inquired if there was
any action required.
City Attorney Leibold suggested that the appropriate action, based on the
sub-committee recommendation and the proposed scope of work, would be
to consider the sub-committee recommendation and received comments on
the proposed scope of work.
Mayor Buckley noted that the Council created the sub-committee to develop
the scope of work and find an auditor. City Attorney Leibold suggested that
the sub-committee might be interested in input from the Council.
MOVED BY MAGEE, SECQNDED BY HICKMAN TO CONTINUE THIS
ITEM TO SEPTEMBER 14'x.
Councilman Schiffner indicated that he wanted reassurance that the scope of
work would include all credit cards, including the Council's. Councilman
Magee indicated that he would assure the Council that would happen. He
read the staff recommendation and indicated that it did not mention
continuing education, travel, or per diem, which were all part of the action
on June 29"'. Councilman Schiffner concurred and requested that those
items be included. Councilman Magee expressed concern that those items
were not included in the staff recommendation. Mayor Buckley indicated
that the scope of work was to include Council and Staff.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WA5 RECESSED AT 9:28
P.M.
THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECONVENED AT 9:31
P.M.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS -NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS - 3 MINUTES
Edith Stafford, 29700 Hursh, indicated that she was a straightforward person and
someone had to have the guts to tell it like it is; and that person was her. She
commented that she did not like wrongdoing and fought it hard. She indicated that
she had distrusted the past action of 20 years or more, and indicated that her
concerns could be documented. She requested that no one play the fooling game
on her, as she does her homework and knows what is going on. She commented
on the City Treasurer and noted that the past City Councils had not allowed the
City Treasurer to do his rightful duties. She indicated that the public elected a
strong treasurer this time, who would not allow anyone to topple him over. She
expressed complete support for his actions; noting that he did the right thing. She
indicated that she had questions and suspicions; and when someone changes the
story it gives rise to suspicions. She addressed a story in the paper in July
regarding a 2-1/2 day trip on behalf of the City. She reiterated that she does her
homework and requests documents, and sees all kinds of flutters and flaws.
Vida Boice, 17 Ponte Negra, addressed Councilman Magee and thanked him for
following up on the letters that were sent out. She indicated that it was very
appropriate to see that staff was following through. She thanked the Council for
their hard work, but expressed concern with the Railroad Canyon intersection.
:She noted that there were Council members who have run saying they did great
things for the City but she hadn't seen it. She commented that there was $230,000
allocated for work on Railroad Canyon; but it was not getting better, it was getting
worse. She requested an update on the status of Railroad Canyon and the time
frame to get something done. She indicated that she gets very irritated when she
is in that intersection and would like to have something to look forward to seeing
the traffic ease.
Mayor Buckley noted that it was about $850,000 and the work would start soon.
Engineering Seumalo offered to meet and give Ms. Boice an update. He advised
that staff was waiting for the Caltrans permits for the interim improvements. He
further advised that the second prong would be for the ultimate improvements,
with the project report engineer selected, then the environmental and finally the
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plans, specs and estimates for the improvements.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
Assistant City Manager Best commented on the following:
1) Highlighted a recent article on a local company in the Press
Enterprise, being Vertigo, in the back basin. She explained that the
company was working on a retrieval system for the satellites. She
indicated that this was a positive program for the City and noted that
it was good to see new technology. She congratulated Vertigo on
their efforts.
2) Advised the City Council that she would be attending the funeral
services for the son of Councilman McAllister in Murrieta.
3) Wished everyone a safe Labor Day Holiday.
CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
No comments.
COMMITTEE REPORTS
None.
CITY TREASURER COMMENTS
City Treasurer Weber commented on the following:
1) Noted the newsletter of the California Debt Investment Advisory
Commission, which tracks the sale of bonds. He commented on the
number of bonds issues each year, and indicated that a lot of the
disclosure statements were not factual, as they were doing other
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things with the money. He indicated that local officials needed to be
involved in the writing of disclosure statements and the review of the
statements, because the City is liable. He commented that the Laing
Homes disclosure would probably need some kind of risk analysis, as
they would probably be looking for over $250 million in bonds. He
stressed that the Council needed to be sure the statements were fully
truthful. He indicated that he was investigating the bonds and one
series in 1984 was to pay for rebuilding after the 1980 flood, but
noted that the citizens would be paying unti12032.
2) Indicated that the investigation of Assistant City Manager Best had to
happen, and advised that he would provide copies of his report for
free.
CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilman Hickman commented on the following:
1) Reminded homeowners and renters of the tax rebate for senior
citizens, with forms being completed at the Senior Center on
Mondays and Tuesdays.
2) Congratulated Chris McColley on getting Congressman Issa to attend
the EDC Luncheon.
3) Noted his enjoyment of the concerts in the park and gave Kudos to
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley.
4) Noted that Vertigo would make history on September 8`h with the
catch of the space shuttle.
5) Extended prayers to the family of Fernando Hannon who lost his life
in Iraq and to the family of Councilman McAllister in Murrieta.
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6) Noted that Lake Elsinore was rated the 360' best sports cities in the
United States and offered kudos.
7) Wished everyone a safe holiday.
Councilman Schiffner commented on the following:
1) Thanked the Council for joining him to move forward with an
extreme improvement project. He indicated that it would raise
property values and provide great recreation.
Councilman Magee commented on the following:
1) Indicated that he had several requests of staff. He advised that he had
received a lot of correspondence regarding Code Enforcement/Law
Enforcement on North Langstaff. He requested a brief report on the
status of that situation.
2) Indicated that he was contacted by a constituent regarding street
repairs on Poe Street. He noted that he contacted City staff and was
pleased to see that he advised the constituent saying almost exactly
what staff told him. He indicated that it was not included in
maintenance this year, so it was an unfunded capital improvement
project. He indicated that he would try to get it higher up on the list
by mid-year.
3) Indicated that he was receiving constituent calls regarding free coffee
for seniors at the Senior Center. He noted that it was only served
until 10:30 in the morning and he would like input on what would be
an appropriate time. He suggested that if the Council desired that
could be promoted.
4) Noted that the Rental Housing Program had been funded for two
years and requested an update on what had been done in the two
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years.
5) Requested an update on the General Plan Review process, noting that
the Council had approved an adequate RFP and was only waiting for
the new fiscal year.
6) Responded to Mrs. Boice, noting that staff had talked to her about
Phase I; and commented that on Phase 2, the long term ultimate
resolution, the County sub-committee met yesterday and approved
$13.5 million in concept for plans & specifications, right-of--way, and
construction. He indicated that this was a large step in making the
project happen. He indicated when the project was ready it could be
funded and the staff was ahead of the curve, so the City would get the
money before some other project.
7) Indicated that he needed to hear from more people on what goes on at
City Council meetings and in the community. He stressed his need
for input, and advised that he had a dedicated line in his home for
concerns. He encouraged the constituents to call him at 678-4515.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley commented on the following:
1) Reminded everyone of the Concert series and thanked Councilman
Hickman for his comments.
2) Responded to Mr. Weber, that she might seem like a mother hen at
times, but she would disagree with the process that was followed.
She stressed that he should try not to get personal. She indicated that
she might be a mother hen because she had worked with staff for
eight years. She indicated that the City has a quality staff, with
experience and professional demeanor. She noted that the staff's
average amount of services was between 10 and 15 years. She
indicated that staff works hard for the City and bends over backwards
to assist the Council. She noted that they also try to answer
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questions from the public and have settled numerous lawsuits. She
stressed that they are very capable and knowledgeable. She
indicated that under the leadership of City Manager Watenpaugh and
Assistant City Manager Best the City was moving forward in a
positive way. She indicated that this was true of all of staff, as they
are all kind and considerate. She reiterated that she might be a
mother hen, but hates to see staff undermined or embarrassed
unnecessarily. She noted that the audit was already requested, but to
release the document to the paper without giving Ms. Best the
opportunity to correct errors, release it and say he would pass it out,
embarrasses the City, the City Council and should embarrass him; it
also embarrasses staff and is highly inappropriate. She indicated that
in this instance she would take the title mother hen as a compliment.
She stressed that Ms. Best had not had a chance to speak since the
report and would like that opportunity before it was distributed
further. Councilman Magee reminded Mr. Weber that the City
Manager would guide him to staff and this matter should wait until he
returns.
Mayor Buckley commented on the following:
1) Addressed the scheduling of meetings and indicated that on
September 8th at 4 p.m. t here would be a Special RDA/Council
Closed Session regarding ongoing negotiations and due diligence on
the Stadium. He also noted the need for two more study session on
Code of Ethics, and Logo/Public Relations/Branding. He suggested
that Council a-mai13 or 4 possible dates to staff.
2) Requested that the second meeting in September be cancelled or
moved, and an item to reset it be placed on the next agenda.
3) Advised that there was a letter concerning a new post office, and
noted that the City clearly needed one. He noted that he spoke with
Supervisor Buster, and he was looking for a new post office site in
Temescal Canyon. He requested the Council consensus for a letter to
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be drafted based on specific examples. Councilman Magee indicated
that it needed to include how to take the next step, based on direction
from the Federal government. He questioned how to do that.
4) Announced the following upcoming events:
Music with a View Concerts
August 28th Cruise Night
September 4`h Music with a View
September 4th Household Hazardous Waste Collection
September 5th Open Air Market
September 9th EDC Lunch
September 18th Familia Celebration
ADJOURNMENT
THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 9:55
P.M.
CITY CLERK/
HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE