HomeMy WebLinkAbout03-23-2004 Joint City Council/RDA/PFA Study Session
MINUTES
JOINT CITY COUNCILIREDEVELOPMENT
AGENCY/PUBLIC FINANCE AUTHORITY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, MARCH 23, 2004
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Buckley called the Joint Study Session to order at 4:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
COUNCILMEMBERS: HICKMAN, KELLEY,
MAGEE, SCHIFFNER,
BUCKLEY
ABSENT:
COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager
Best, City Attorney Leibold, Administrative Services Director Pressey,
Community Development Director Brady, Community Services Director
Sapp, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Information/
Communications Manager Dennis, Parks & Open Space Manager Fazzio
and Deputy City Clerk Ray.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
City Attorney Leibold indicated there was one item for closed session.
I. Real Property Negotiations with properties involved in the Wasson Canyon
Investments Agreement; participating parties were Wasson Canyon
Investments, Southshore, and City of Lake Elsinore.
She indicated that a Special Notice had been issued for 5:00 pm, to discuss
Elsinore Christian Center in closed session.
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Consent Calendar
1. Minutes - Councilman Hickman commented on Item 1 b page 16 of 23 that
there was a typo.
Mayor Buckley commented on Item 1 c page 32 of 65 item 23 at the bottom
of the page to add the statement - "a continuance of this item".
He also indicated there was a typo on page 46 of 65 second paragraph eighth
line down. He noted that on page 48 of 65 the first line that he was not
questioning if the City was run better than it use to be, the question was, if it
was run well enough.
2. Warrant List - Councilman Magee requested clarification for various checks
issued from Item No.2, the Warrant List. Staff clarified the checks in
question.
Councilman Magee requested clarification on check #77067 Powerland
Equipment for $14,990. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy
explained that was for the mowing of the back basin levee slope. He
commented they had problems for years trying to have that mowed and the
brush was very heavy. Councilman Magee inquired if the equipment was
actually purchased. Mr. Kilroy indicated the equipment was not purchased
the fee was just for the mowing on the steep slope. Councilman Schiffner
inquired how often that slope would need to be mowed. Mr. Kilroy
explained that in the 90's there was difficulty maintaining that slope; and
there were bids of over $40,000 to do it by hand. He commented there was
test cutting this year to ensure the equipment used would work. City
Manager Watenpaugh noted this item was presented to Council at a previous
Council Meeting for authorization to fund and contract the item. Mr. Kilroy
indicated that it was part of the mid-year budget review.
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Councilman Hickman requested clarification for various checks issued from
Item No.2, the Warrant List. Staff clarified the checks in question.
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Mayor Buckley requested clarification for various checks issued from Item
No.2, the Warrant List. Staff clarified the checks in question.
3. Resolution initiating proceedings and approving the Engineer's Report for
the annexation of certain Territory known as the Amended Pepper Grove
Tract into the City of Lake Elsinore Landscape and Street Lighting District
No.1, as LLMD Annexation No.2.
Administrative Services Director Pressey commented that the developer
came in after the Engineer's Report had been published and adjusted the
square footage of the Landscaped area that was to be assessed; there were
some numbers that had changed. Mr. Pressey offered to read the numbers or
provide Council with a revised copy. He noted they were adding 360 sq.ft.
at 32 cents a square foot and increased by $300. The first number change
was on page 13 of20 from 22,300 sq.ft. to 22,560 sq.ft.
Mayor Buckley inquired if the item needed to be pulled from the consent
calendar.
City Attorney Leibold explained that the change could be noted in the
motion on consent, but it did not need to be pulled.
4. Resolution of Intention to Establish CFD No. 2004-1 (City Center
Townhomes).
Councilman Hickman requested clarification that they were asking for a $5
million CFD. Administrative Services Director Pressey explained that it was
not to exceed $5 million. Mayor Buckley requested clarification that it was
for phase 1 and 2. Mr. Pressey confirmed that it was for phase 1 and 2.
Councilman Hickman suggested a $ 2 million CFD. Mr. Pressey
commented that the $5 million gave "wiggle" room. Mr. Pressey indicated
that it would be issued for $2 million, but the not to exceed amount was
normally rounded a lot higher than was actually needed.
Councilman Magee indicated that Phase 1 had been approved and Phase 2
was going before Council that evening and also the CFD, it seemed as
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though Council and Staff was handling this project different than Laing
Homes and requested clarification as to why. He was told that policy was
the CFD could go first and he was more comfortable with items coming
either at the same time or land use decisions being made before those types
of decisions were made. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that there was
discussion about possibly pulling this item and bringing it all back at one
time. The intent was partly because the developer apparently was moving to
finance and sell the project. Councilman Magee reiterated that he needed
clarification as to why this project was being handled differently than Laing
two weeks ago. Administrative Services Director Pressey explained that two
weeks ago for Laing Homes it was a Deposit and Reimbursement
Agreement; the developer provided $50,000 towards the cost of researching
the feasibility. He explained for the City Center Townhomes Project that
was approved by Council around the beginning of February, 2004.
Councilman Magee noted according to the staffreport it was January, 2004,
but Phase 1 of this project would have been approved before January, 2004.
Mr. Pressey confirmed. Councilman Magee reiterated the land use approval
came first before any action on the CFD. City Manager Watenpaugh
commented that part of that was driven by the developer. Councilman
Magee explained that he brought up the issue because two weeks ago he was
told there was a specific policy. City Attorney Leibold explained the policy
as she recalled dealt with CFD's and what needed to be in place prior to
bonds being issued and the maximum amount of the special tax.
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5. CEQA Compliance Documents.
Councilman Magee commented that Albert Webb & Associates had an
outstanding reputation in the County.
City Manager Watenpaugh commented that the normal process was
that staff went ahead and brought in a consultant, but due to the amount of
money and the questions in terms of spending, staff thought it was important
to bring it forward to Council to review.
Councilman Magee inquired about the time schedule and if the process had
already started. Community Development Director Brady commented that
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since it was a cost recovery, the City controlled it rather than having the
applicant control the consultant to prepare the environmental document,
which was a City document and they then deposited the money with the
City and the City reviews and controls the documents. He noted under the
new policy staff brought it back to the City Council for approval due to the
amount, so the schedule would be revised.
6. Assignment and Assumption of Development Agreement from Como at
Tuscany Hills Corporation to Pulte Home Corporation.
Councilman Magee commented that there was a typographical error in the
staff report regarding the tract number.
PUBLIC HEARING
21. General Plan Amendment No. 2003-03
Mayor Buckley commented he was driving by the townhomes built near the
Lowe's in Murrieta and indicated that they were on top of each other.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley commented that they were originally supposed to
had been apartments that turned into townhomes, so basically you really
have an apartment product. She also commented that across the freeway in
Murrieta some of the others were built specifically for condos and the layout
was different. Community Development Director Brady commented that the
topography variation on the site would also break up the clustering effect.
Councilman Hickman inquired if the City charged on the formula for low
and moderate income houses. City Attorney Leibold explained that
redevelopment law required the Agency to produce affordable housing
within the redevelopment project area boundaries equal to 15% of all newly
constructed dwelling units. It did not mean that each project had to put 15%
aside. She noted what she had encouraged and worked with the Community
Development Department to do was for residential projects that were within
redevelopment project area boundaries to include a requirement so there
was a fair share of participation being contributed to the Agency for low and
moderate income housing fund. Councilman Hickman inquired about the
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$1.30 per square foot. City Attorney Leibold explained it was a negotiated
number, because there was no City Ordinance at this time to address the
issue. Councilman Hickman suggested something more standardized. City
Attorney Leibold concurred.
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Second Reading-Ordinance No. 1116 - Public Safety Advisory
Commission.
Councilman Magee noted there was a typographical error under Section
2.46.030 last sentence. He indicated there was an issue with the language in
2.46.040 and 2.46.050 relative to the term of office and deferred to City
Attorney Leibold. City Attorney Leibold indicated staff needed
clarification, the item as it was presented in the agenda packet provided for
the Mayor to designate the initial Chairman and Vice Chairman and the
terms would run through July 1, 2005; through discussion at the Council
Meeting the provision in 2.46.040 was revised so the Mayor was selecting
only the initial Chairman and the Vice Chair would be selected from a
majority of the membership of the Commission. She believed what the
Council intended was the office of the initial Chair would run through
December 31, 2004, but what they failed to do when making the revision to
2.46.040 was to pick up the revision necessary in 2.46.050 for it to make
sense.
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Councilman Schiffner indicated that there was a paragraph that was left out
indicating they would make their recommendations in writing to the City
Council. Mayor Buckley noted that 2.46.060 E, stated the Commission
should report to the Council on a regular basis. Councilman Schiffner
indicated that was the only part that indicated the Council was involved. He
commented any report the Commission had should come to the Council.
Section E. only stated they would report to Council on a regular basis.
Councilman Magee suggested including: The Commission may report to
Council at any time, but not less than once per quarter. Councilman
Schiffner agreed with including the statement.
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32. Acceptance of Planning Commission Resignation-John Barnes.
Councilman Magee indicated that he was told last week that Mr. Barnes had
already moved out of town and requested clarification. City Manager
Watenpaugh commented that he would be a resident until April 7, 2004.
Councilman Magee noted Mr. Barnes' letter stated he would continue
through the April 6, 2004 Planning Commission Hearing. Councilman
Magee commented if he had already moved, he did not feel it was
appropriate for Mr. Barnes to be a Commissioner for a vote on anything; and
he was told last night the Laing Project would be on the April 6, 2004,
agenda. Community Development Director Brady indicated Mr. Barnes was
in City Hall earlier and he understood Mr. Barnes to still be living at his
home. He noted Mr. Barnes had been one of the most ethical and
outstanding Commissioners and did not think he would sit on a Commission
ifhe was not still living in the City. Mayor Pro Tern Kelley commented that
the letter indicated "as of April 9, 2004".
33. Ordinance No. 1118-Amending LEMC Section 6.04.020.
Mayor Buckley indicated there was a representative from Animal Friends of
the Valley that would like to speak on the item.
Anne Washington, Animal Friends of the Valley, indicated that they were
requesting the Council increase the dog license by five dollars. She noted
during meeting that was held between the four cities it was suggested that all
the cities had the same fee structures for their licenses. The City of Lake
Elsinore was the schedule they chose to follow with the exception that the
altered animal license be raised from ten dollars to fifteen dollars for one
year. She noted from January until now the City would have had an increase
of $8,500 in revenue; the revenue offsets the dollar amount the City pays
for animal services.
Councilman Schiffner inquired about the fees for seniors. Mrs. Washington
noted the fee for seniors would not change.
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34. Ten Year Extension for Tree Trimming Agreement.
Councilman Hickman inquired about the ten year extension.
Parks & Open Space Manager Fazzio explained that the City would be able
to keep the prices for ten years with no increase at $41.00 per tree.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted page 7 of 13 Item 11, gave the City the
opportunity to terminate if they were not meeting the needs and the contract
would come back annually for Council review.
Councilman Magee requested clarification that the contract could be
cancelled by the City Manager or majority of the Council at anytime. Mr.
Fazzio confirmed.
Councilman Magee clarified that work was going to be authorized by staff,
budget approved by Council annually and an annual review of the
performance. City Manager Watenpaugh confirmed.
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35. Records Access/Copy Expense.
No comments.
36. Memorial Honoring Bill "Whiskers" Tucker.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated the family should be attending the
evening Council Meeting. He indicated that the Council had not decided
what type of memorial. Mayor Buckley inquired if the family wanted the
Cove or the Beach. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that staff had not
discussed the issue with the family, they had requested in the petition the
north fishing beach. City Manager Watenpaugh suggested a bronze plaque
similar to the one given to Mr. Vasquez. Councilman Schiffuer suggested
including a small catfish head on the plaque, since Mr. Tucker received so
much prominence from that. Councilman Magee suggested clearing that
idea with the family so as not to offend anyone.
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Councilman Hickman suggested putting the memorial plaque in the park
where the City had more control to prevent graffiti. Councilman Magee
reiterated the family requested the location.
37. Amendment to Land Development Agreement, Temporary Land Transfer
Agreement and Irrevocable Escrow Instructions with Wasson Canyon
Investments, L.P.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that this was the agreement Council
approved in November that was discussed under real property negotiations
in the past couple of meetings. She noted this was one of the last troubled
CFD's and the temporary transfer of the title to the City to allow the County
to release certain property tax, penalties and interest and the security of the
City to ensure it was paid under the terms of the agreement.
38. Lake Elsinore Management Plan.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated he had a written request from John
Laing Homes to have the item deferred and brought back at the time
Council reviewed the entire project.
Michael Filler, John Laing Homes, indicated that they had worked out some
mitigation measures to modify the existing permit and reissue the permit.
The Army Corps of Engineers requested the three copermitees be on the
same page with the items per the mitigation plan and that was the purpose
for the request that letters were sent out.
39. Multi-Species Habitat Conservation Plan Update.
Mayor Buckley commented on April 12, 2004 at 2 p.m. at the County
Counsel's Office they were making two Supervisors and their staff available
to meet with himself, Councilman Schiffner and Staff. He indicated that the
first letter page 5 of 35 of the staff report second paragraph second sentence
he wanted out of the letter. City Attorney Leibold noted that the following
sentence would not coincide with the letter. Mayor Buckley continued to the
second letter page 35 of35 of the staff report second paragraph, third line
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would need to be removed. He also indicated that in the fifth paragraph, last
sentence needed to be reworded.
Councilman Schiffner indicated that the last meeting the RCA had they
violated the Brown Act by making changes in their direction after the
meeting and included it on the next agenda; and noted he was not happy with
the way they were doing things.
Councilman Magee indicated that the development community had a
problem now that the City Council approved the MSHCP. He noted for two
months the County had done nothing and ignored the City of Lake Elsinore.
He commented that the reason Supervisor Tavaglione and Supervisor Ashley
were involved was due to lack of assistance from the First District. He
commented Mr. Sauls who represented 15 developers in the area could not
move forward. He indicated the County stated they would help calculate
and move forward and for two months had done nothing and told our City
Attorney they were not going to do anything. He noted the City was now in
a tight spot along with Mr. Sauls and his clients and City staff. He
commented the Council needed to provide direction.
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Councilman Schiffner commented that the County indicated to him they had
no intentions of answering the City; it was not their job anymore. City
Manager Watenpaugh clarified that was told to the RCA Board.
Councilman Schiffner indicated that at the last meeting Supervisor Buster
made a motion to have the issue put on next month's agenda.
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
Chairman Hickman gave an overview of the RDA Agenda.
Legal Counsel Leibold indicated there was one item of Closed Session, Real
Property Negotiations for the Stadium.
Consent Calendar
No comments.
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BUSINESS ITEMS
No comments.
PUBLIC FINANCE AUTHORITY
Chairman Magee gave an overview of the PF A Agenda.
Consent Calendar
No comments.
ADJOURNMENT
THE JOINT CITY COUNCILIREDEVELOPMENT AGENCY/PUBLIC
FINANCE AUTHORITY MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 5:30 P.M.
Y,MAYOR
ELSINORE
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RYL HICKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
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Respectfully submitted,
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VICKI KASAD, CMC, CITY CLERK!
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CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
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