HomeMy WebLinkAbout09-22-2005 City Council MinutesMINUTES
CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2005
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Magee called the Study Session to order at 4:04 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: HICKMAN, KELLEY,
MAGEE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, SCHIFFNER
(Councilman Buckley arrived at 4:05 p.m., Mayor
Pro Tem Schiffner arrived at 4:26 p.m.)
Also present were: City Manager Brady, City Attorney Mann, Administrative
Services Director Pressey, Information/Communications Manager Dennis,
Community Services Director Sapp, Planning Manager Preisendanz, Public
Works Manager Payne, City Treasurer Weber and Office Specialist I Soto.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
a. CFD Policy
Mayor Magee deferred to City Manager Brady who ga~e an overview and deferred
to Administrative Services Director Pressey.
Mr. Pressey gave an in-depth overview of the presentation and the policies that are
followed when considering a Community Facilities District.
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Joe Janczyk, Empire Economics, stated that his firm performed the Market
Absorption Study underlying the CFD financing. He gave further detail of the
study and proceeded to give an overview of his firm's background as well as his
own. He noted the findings of the study and gave his firm's conclusion.
Jim Harris, Harris Realty Appraisal, noted that his firm was the appraiser on recent
CFD issuances. He noted the process for real estate development.
Berri Cannon, Harris Realty Appraisal, ga~e an overview of a proposed master
planned community and provided brief descriptions of Raw Un-entitled Land, Raw
land with Vesting Tentative Tract Map and Raw land with Recorded Final Tract
Map. She further noted the development steps taken by merchant builders and the
costs affiliated with each step.
Dennis Anderson, Harris & Associates, gave a brief history on the past CFDs in
the City. He stated that the current policy for the tax structure was 2% of the total
value of the home at the time the district was formed. He noted that the 2% would
include the total property tax value from the County and other tax and assessments
from EVMWD, Lake Elsinore Unified School District, the County of Riverside
and other entities. He further noted that the policy allowed for a 2% annual
escalator that was allowed for the Mello-Roos code. He noted that for residential
properties the tax rate could not increase more than 2% per year. He further stated
the range of special taxes currently in districts.
Mr. Pressey noted that one of the proposed changes in the policy was to consider
changing the 2% escalator to 0%, which would be driven by the bond debt
structure. He further noted the impact that it would have on the homeowner.
Anthony Wetherbee, Southwest Securities - City's underwriter, noted that the
rationale for the proposed change was due to the state of the economy.
Rod Gunn, Rod Gunn Associates, stated that under the State's Mello-Roos statutes
the City Council adopts a level of special tax.
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Mr. Anderson gave an overview of DAG fees and what they would be used to
finance. He stated that improvements to public facilities would be covered under
the Mello-Roos code which would allow for financing of the construction of any
public or capital facilities. He noted the advantages of financing impact fees. He
further noted the City's current fees.
Mr. Pressey commented that at a previous study session the issue of whether or not
to finance DAG fees was addressed. He noted the advantages and disadvantages
of DAG fees.
Mr. Gunn gave an overview of the credit quality of financing noting absorption,
credit quality of developer and feasibility of project.
Mr. Wetherbee stated that when he was looking at a Mello-Roos project or land
secured financing he would use the acronym FAST. He noted that it stood for
feasibility, appraisal, structure and time of financing. He then gave a brief
description of each item.
Margie Armstrong, EVMWD, stated that the district, to date, has done 8 CFDs.
She noted that their structure was very similar; however, a little mare restrictive.
She stated that their financing policy specified that they have a level debt service.
She noted that they do allow for the 2% escalator on a case-by-case basis, and must
have special approval. She noted that their value-to-lien ratio was 4-l, and for that
reason developers tend to go to the City or school district.
Councilwoman Kelley inquired on the school district fees per home.
Mr. Pressey noted that he did not have that information available, but would look
into the matter.
Mr. Anderson indicated that the fees were charged per square foot.
Mrs. Kelley inquired if the school district had been approached to work with the
City in regard to the matter.
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Mr. Pressey noted that he had made contact with the school district.
Councilman Hickman requested clarification on the definition of level debt service.
Mr. Anderson noted that the Mello Roos code allowed an additional 10% coverage
to cover delinquencies.
Councilman Hickman stated that the Bond Council did an outstanding job. He
further inquired about the total amount of outstanding bonds.
Mr. Pressey indicated that he believed there was $50 -$60 million worth of
outstanding CFD bonds.
Councilman Hickman inquired if people would be able to pay off their Mello Roos
if level debt servicing was decided upon.
Mr. Anderson indicated that the prepayment clause would need to be looked at;
however, it would be as simple enough as multiplying out the payoff cost.
City Treasurer Weber indicated he felt the best interests of the City were being
met. He stated that it was the City's responsibility to manage the funds correctly.
He noted that he thought the 0% escalator was a good thing. He further inquired
how the City handled and met the demands of delinquencies.
Mr. Anderson stated that the tax would need to be increased in the subsequent year
to cover what was paid for delinquencies in the prior year. He noted that the rate
and method of taxation did have a maximum tax. He further noted that the tax was
only able to increase by 2% annually.
Mr. Weber inquired on the City's process to foreclose on a home that has not paid
their property taxes.
Mr. Anderson gave an overview of the process of how to check on payments for
property tax and the steps that would be taken if the payment on the property tax
had not been made.
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Mr. Pressey noted that it had been a number of years since the City had to
foreclose on a property. He further noted that they have not yet had to bill for
delinquencies.
Mr. Weber stated he thought the Council should be informed on the delinquencies.
He further inquired how fees were organized to ensure they were spent on the
appropriate item and not unrelated issues.
Mr. Pressey indicated that there were government laws that addressed impact fees.
He noted that there were separate funds for each of the impact fees; he further
noted that they were incorporated into the CIP budget.
Mr. Weber suggested that he would like to track the money amounts for the fees
collected for the year.
Mr. Pressey indicated that once bonds were issued and the City received the fees,
they would then be placed in the appropriate account for a specific designated use.
He noted that the fees collected were not always tied to the development, but to a
specific designated use.
Mr. Pressey indicated that all funds of the City were reported in financial
statements on a yearly basis.
Mr. Weber stated that he would like to see updates on the activity of the
construction fund.
Mr. Pressey noted that Harris & Associates issued an annual CFD report, as well as
NBS Government Services which included an update of the balances.
Weber suggested that the construction fund be audited by an independent auditor.
Councilman Hickman inquired if the builders sent Harris & Associates the invoice
to allocate the money.
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Mr. Anderson stated that theyxequire the developer to send them the invoice and
proof of payment, all executed contracts and proof that they did receive 3
competitive bids which showed they awarded to the lowest responsible bidder.
Mr. Hunt stated that all construction funds for all of the CFDs were held by a
trustee.
Councilman Buckley inquired if it was cheaper for a homeowner to ha~e a CFD or
to pay the money up front as part of the mortgage.
Mr. Janczyk stated that the rates on a tax-exempt bond were at a 5% range and
rates on mortgages would depend upon whether someone was looking at fixed-rate
mortgage or adjustable-rate mortgage. He noted that mortgage rates were similar
to rates on the tax exempt bonds presently, and would appear that they were very
close in regard to the homeowner's total out of pocket expense.
Councilman Buckley inquired about the informal notification process to Council
on their willingness to approve a CFD Bond.
Mr. Gunn stated that the Bond Council did not have their first meeting on a CFD
until Council approved the Tentative Map. He also stated that whether or not a
CFD would be affiliated with a Tentative Map could be apart of the developer's
Tentative Map application.
Mr. Buckley inquired on the prospect of having a 1.8% cap in place of not having
an escalator.
Mr. Gunn noted that the numbers might come out differently; but if that was the
direction the City wanted to go in, the numbers should be fairly comparable.
Mr. Anderson noted that if an escalator was added in, the nutnbers would increase
over time and the level debt would be lower over the fu1130 years in terms of total
taxes paid.
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Mr. Gunn noted that it would be easier for a developer to sell a home advertising a
1.8% cap in the market place.
Mr. Wetherbee stated that the CFD debt was not the debt of the City in terms of
someone analyzing the City's financial statements. He noted that the City had the
responsibility of the administration of the debt.
Mr. Buckley inquired if various independent audits were taken out of CFD funds.
Mr. Anderson noted that fees for audits were taken out of the CFD funds.
Mr. Buckley inquired if the CFD reserve was used to cover delinquencies.
Mr. Anderson noted that the reserve must be replenished and kept at a certain
leveL He noted the steps taken to replenish the reserve in order to keep it at a
certain level.
Mr. Wetherbee noted that the size of the reserve fund was limited by federal tax
laws. He noted the maximum size of reserve funds established by the federal tax
law.
Mr. Wetherbee noted that in a more normalized economy the City could invest the
reserve funds at a 4% or 5% rate of return so the reserve fund earnings could cover
the delinquencies.
Mr. Buckley noted that an annual delinquency report to Council was a good idea.
Mr. Buckley inquired if the City had ever completed payments on any of their
CFDs.
Mr. Pressey indicated that the earliest a CFD would be paid off would be in the
year 2020.
Mr. Buckley inquired if there was a time limit to spend funds for CFDs.
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Mr. Hunt commented that the federal tax law indicated that all the proceeds would
be spent within 36 months.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner inquired if there was an advantage to Mello Ross and if
a home was found more valuable if it had Mello Roos.
Mr. Janczyk stated that he recently dealt with a similar scenario, a home with a
special tax and one without, he stated that there was a price differential.
Mrs. Cannon indicated that when they value a home, they consider many factors
along with taxes. She believed that in the scenario Mr. Schiffner was referring to,
the homes would not appraise for the same value.
Mr. Harris noted that his firm did not appraise individual houses.
Mr. Schiffner indicated that with his personal experience the appraisers indicated
that Mello Roos did not make a difference with the property value.
Mrs. Cannon noted that there were all different kinds of appraisers and that the
value of the home may vary with various appraisers.
Mr. Weber noted that it would be helpful to have an overview of the items
discussed among the finance team to help inform the Council and himself with
what was going on and what was going forward in regard to developments.
Mr. Gunn stated that he maintained a master calendar that he provided to Mr.
Pressey that could be formalized and distributed.
Mr. Buckley suggested that the City create a pamphlet explaining a CFD to
provide to homeowners.
Mr. Hunt stated that law required the developer to be responsible to provide
specific disclosure to every homeowner in a Mello Roos district and advised the
City to consider liability issues before taking on the responsibility.
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PAGE NINE STUDY SESSION MINTJTES - SEPTEMBER 22, 2005
Mayor Magee noted how staff was looking for direction on policy changes and
inquired about asking staff to send out letters to the school district, water district
and the BIA encouraging their comments on the changes that Council was
considering on the existing CFD policy.
Mr. Magee gave an overview of the items that had been addressed up to that point.
Mr. Magee inquired when they would like to see the policy back.
Mrs. Kelley stated that she would like to see staff write letters to the districts and
get a response before meeting again.
Mr. Magee directed staff to send a letter that noted that Council was considering
changes to the CFD policy.
Mr. Buckley inquired if there would be an MOU between the 3 agencies, or 3
independent Ordinances that stood alone on the changes to the CFD policy.
Mr. Pressey stated that he and the Bond Council had discussed having the agencies
add it into their policy.
Mr. Magee questioned City Manager Brady if staff had adequate direction on the
item.
Mr. Brady indicated that he felt staff had adequate direction.
ADJOURNMENT
THE CITY COiTNCIL STUDY SESSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 6:35 P.M.
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ROBERT E. MAG E, MAYOR
CTTY OF LAKE ELSINORE
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DARYL HICKMAN, CHAII2MAN
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MICHELLE SOTO, OFFICE SPECIALIST I
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