HomeMy WebLinkAbout08-30-2007 SSMINUTES
JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVEL,OPMENT AGENCY
SPECIAL STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
THURSDAY, AUGUST 30, 2007
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Magee called the Special Joint Study Session to order at 5:04 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: MAYOR MAGEE
MAYOR PRO TEM HICKMAN
COUNCILMEMBER BUCKLEY
COUNCILMEMBER KELLEY
COUNCILMEMBER SCHIFFNER
ABSENT: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Brady, City Attorney Leibold, Administrative Services
Director Pressey, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kiiroy, Public Works Director
Seumalo, Community Development Director Preisendanz, Parks & Recreation Director
Gonzales and Interim City Cierk Soto.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Mayor Magee suggested staff do their presentation first, and public comments would be
taken afterward.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. Civic Center Presentation and Discussion reqarding the Desiqn and Site
Selection
Administrative Services Director Pressey stated he had important issues to
discuss regarding the Civic Center. He spoke on the topics that would guide the
discussion.
RDA Project Manager McCarty gave background information on what was done
to involve the community with the project. He indicated, as part of the City's
Public Outreach Carnpaign, a pubiic survey was sent to 21,000 households. He
noted the City received 2,000 responses. He mentioned there was a diversity of
opinions in the City. He commented on feedback that was given with regard to
the responses received.
RDA Project Manager McCarty commented on the Space Needs Analysis. He
noted an office-by-office analysis was conducted for the new City Hall.
Administrative Services Director Pressey commented on the Cost and Feasibility
Analysis. He pointed out the construction costs for the facilities, parking structure
and land. He indicated the grand total cost for Site No. 1 would be $75,753,214
and $74,768,401 for Site No. 2.
Administrative Services Director Pressey indicated through a combination of
resources, the project would be feasible. He noted a variety of revenue sources
had been reviewed; in addition to debt structure, the need to attract and generate
sales tax, continuing to control existing budgetary spending and potential phasing
options.
Administrative Services Director Pressey commented on the debt service
structure. He noted debt service would begin in 2012 or five years. He further
noted in five years, affording the interest and paying an escalating principal
portion was probabie and a phased approach would not be required.
Administrative Services Director Pressey spoke of phasing the project and how it
would be done. He noted the advantages and disadvantages of phasing.
Administrative Services Director Pressey gave a City Hall cost comparison. He
noted the cost, square footage, number of employees and population for City
Halls in surrounding areas.
RDA Project Manager McCarty commented on design objectives. He indicated
staff was looking for guidance on the layout and site placement, historic Lake
Elsinore architectural design and standards, architectural style, design elements
and design appropriate to context.
RDA Project Manager McCarty commented on the layout and site placement.
He noted the alternatives with each option. He indicated their goal was
downtown revitalization.
RDA Project Manager McCarty commented on historic Lake Eisinore
architectural design standards. He pointed out that both sites feil within RDA
historic design standards. He gave examples of each style that was suggested
and design elements for the project.
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RDA Project Manager McCarty indicated staff needed Council's feedback in
regard to architectural style.
Bill Liskim, Design Competition Juror, spoke on other Civic Center examples.
He noted the identity of the City came from the lake. He commented on the
importance of the lake and lake-front landscaping.
Mr. Liskin introduced the Design Competition Finalists.
Brian Healy, Brian Healy Architects, commented on his background and what
attracted him to the competition. He indicated he was attracted to the idea of
keeping the Civic Center downtown.
Jim Gabriel, Architects Hanna Gabriel Wells, commented on the importance
of the community's feedback and the importance of including the lake. He
thanked everyone for allowing them to be part of the project.
Julie Eizenburg, Koning Eizenberg Architecture, provided background on
herself and her firm. She noted what attracted her firm to the project. She
commented on how to make the City a legacy for future generations. She further
commented on honoring the past.
RDA Project Manager McCarty thanked the architects for attending the meeting.
Edward Kotkin, Legal Representative for Ibarra's Market, introduced the
president and vice president of the market. He indicated the owners had worked
hard to make the market what it was. He noted they were in favor of a new Civic
Center. He commented on the incentives of Site No. 1 as compared to Site No.
2. He stated Ibarra's Market would like to stay. He submitted a petition of 2,256
signatures of individuals in favor of keeping the market where it was. He noted
he was interested in Council's feedback. He gave a letter that he previously
addressed to Council to the Deputy City Clerk to place in the record.
Carl Johnson, NEAR-CAL, Corp, indicated he was one of the Design
Competition Jurors. He noted the feedback of the design concepts were very
good. He spoke of the area and the type of building he felt would be desired. He
noted the architect needed to be held to a budget. He suggested hiring a
construction manager and uphold them to a certain criteria. He commented on
what to be mindful of to reduce costs.
Francis Henkel, Lake Elsinore resident, noted he was a property owner in
Lake Elsinore. He commented Lake Elsinore was a diamond in the rough. He
suggested having activity around the clock at the new Civic Center in an effort to
bring people back. He stated there needed to be something to attract people to
the area.
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Kim Cousins, Chamber of Commerce President, noted the Lake Elsinore
Valiey Chamber of Commerce Board of Directors preferred Site 2 over Site 1.
He commented on the feedback they had received from the public survey. He
noted Site 2 gave more room to expand and 48% of the people who responded
to the survey preferred Site 2.
Fred Dominguez, Lake Elsinore resident, thanked the Council for their
commitment to keep the Civic Center downtown. He noted the Downtown Main
Street Merchants had petitioned the Council since December of 2006 to use the
site in front of the Cultural Center. He indicated they feit this was the most logical
site. He spoke on the importance of historicai values.
Leonard Leichnitz, LUMOS Communities, expressed his fiscal concerns with
the project. He noted he had seen great designs for the Civic Center. He
inquired if the City could afford the Civic Center. He stated the City should be
cautious with debt. He spoke on the three architectural finalists and noted they
were different from the design requested by the community. He commended
staff for their hard work.
Steve Allen, from Lee, Rubin, Allen Partnership, spoke on the aesthetics of
the Civic Center. He noted the style did not need to be determined by the size of
the project. He suggested going with a taller building. He stated it was possible
to achieve a historic look with a tall building.
Dick Knapp, Lake Elsinore resident, spoke of his concern for Site 2. He noted
his recommendation for a location for the proposed Civic Center. He indicated
Site 2 had a lot of acreage, but not a lot of property on high levels. He suggested
putting the Civic Center on higher ground where it would not be affected by the
rains.
Michael O'Neal, Lake Elsinore resident, noted he appreciated the artwork
submitted for the design of the Civic Center. He commented he did not find the
submittals appropriate for the historic district of the City. He spoke on historical
architecture. He indicated what he thought the design should reflect. He gave
ideas for styles and enhancements. He indicated the style should reflect the
ethnicity and culture of the City. He stated the love of Lake Elsinore was
downtown.
Barbara Anderson, Lake Elsinore resident, commented on her background.
She asked for reconsideration of a 2-story library buiiding. She indicated it was
very difficult to staff and expensive to operate. She noted there were a lot of
potential problems when it came to a 2-story library buiiding. She commented a
site near the Police station would be safe and convenient.
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Jerry Harmatr, Lake Elsinore resident, noted Lake Elsinore would be a big
city. He suggested going slow and taking the time to build. He commented by
the time the bonds were paid off, the buildings would be inadequate.
Administrative Services Director Pressey invited members of the Technical
Committee to speak.
Ruth Atkins, Technical Committee, noted 41% of the people favored a historic
style. She further noted 21 of the 22 architectural design submissions were by
the lake. She commented the survey showed a large number of residents liked
the idea of the Civic Center being located near the lake. She thanked staff for
their hard work. She commented it was important to recognize the residents
desire to have a historicai image reflected in the Civic Center.
John Gonzales, Lake Elsinore resident, noted he preferred alternative Site 9.
He commented on Ibarra's Market being the only market downtown. He spoke
on his concern with the budget. He indicated the designs the architects
submitted did not impress him.
Mr. Liskim commented on other ideas the jurors had who were not present.
Councilmember Keiley thanked everyone for attending. She commented
everyone agreed the project needed to be a destination place. She noted the
Civic Center needed to provide a sense of pubiic pride. She indicated she had
served on the jury and commented on her experience. She spoke of the
importance of the architectural firms listening to everyone's comments.
Councilmember Kelley indicated the jury had reached a point where decisions
needed to be made by the Council in regard to design, style, budget and location.
She noted the cost was an important factor. She stated some of the suggestions
for revenue were questionable. She noted she would like to move forward at a
slower pace and that she was in favor of phasing.
Councilmember Kelley commented on the design elements. She noted the
community would like something historic looking with a contemporary style. She
spoke on connectivity and the need to honor the past.
Mayor Pro Tem Hickman mentioned his concerns with the budget and the fiscal
impact. He commented on what he favored for style and in what areas. He
indicated he wouid be in favor of phasing the project. He suggested utilizing the
outflow channel as a river walk.
Councilmember Buckley stated the purpose of the Civic Center was not just to
replace inadequate facilities, but to create new excitement and stimulate
development in the downtown area. He suggested building up the water front.
He noted he was not in favor of more than three or four stories.
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Councilmember Buckley indicated he favored Site 2 for the Civic Center. He
indicated he agreed with Carl Johnson on the budget. He noted the three
designs submitted by the architects were innovative. He indicated 93% of people
favored a pier. He noted this project was an opportunity to create a dynamic new
image.
Councilmember Schiffner stated there was a need for new facilities. He indicated
the biggest reason for the project was to redevelop the downtown area. He
noted he favored the site by the water. He explained it was easier for a City to
develop the lake area compared to a developer. He noted he was in favor of
phasing.
Councilmember Buckley spoke of going with a modern style by the lake and
more historic by "inland" Main Street.
Mayor Pro Tem Hickman commented the private sector could do a better job
than the public sector of developing the area around the lake. He stated if City
Hall was not located on "inland" Main Street, the area would die.
Mayor Magee thanked staff for their presentation. He also thanked the public
and the architects for attending the meeting.
Mayor Magee commented the project needed to be phased. He noted fiscal
responsibility was important and he did not want to go through what the City went
through with the stadium.
Mayor Magee indicated he favored Site 1, Alternative 5. He noted he was drawn
to the lake, but reverted back to the downtown area. He commented on what he
was in favor of in regard to style and enhancements. He further commented he
liked the neo-ciassical and Monterey-Spanish style.
Mayor Magee stated he was in favor of moving forward with the project at a slow
pace.
Administrative Services Director Pressey summarized and confirmed Council's
comments.
RDA Project Manager McCarty requested a few points of clarification on several
items.
Councilmember Buckley responded the parking structure could be whatever size
it needed to be. He suggested utilizing the Cultural Center for the Council
Chambers if it is decided to buiid in "inland" Main Street.
Councilmember Kelley noted she was in favor of a 1-story library.
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Councilmember Buckley noted he was in favor of a 2-story library building. He
noted the second story could be utilized for meeting rooms and storage.
Councilmember Schiffner commented the style and size of the building depended
on the location.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Magee adjourned the Special Joint City Cou ' Rede opment Agency Study
Session at 7:29 p.m. ~
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LAW OFFICES OF
WOODRUFF, SPRADLIN & SMART
A PROFESSIONAL CORPOR4TION
707 SOUTH PARKER STREET, SUITE 8000 ~ ORANGE, CA 92868-4760 ~(714) 558-7000 ~ FAX (714) 8357787
DIRECT DIAL: (714) 564-2635
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August 28, 2007
VIA HAND DELIVERY
City Manager Robert Brady
City of Lake Elsinore
130 South Main Street
Lake Eisinore, CA 92530
Re: Ibarra's Market
Dear Mr. Brady:
My client Ibarra's Market, Inc. ("Ibarra") delivers this letter for your consideration
as you select a site for the new civic center that will serve the City of Lake Elsinore
("City°) and its residents into the twenty-first century. As you know, Ibarra's primary
place of business is located at 217 North Main Street, situated at the corner of Main
Street and Franklin Avenue on land identified as assessor's parcel number 374-164-005
(the "Property"). The Ibarra's Property is part and parcel of prospective civic center
"Site 1" as referenced in the City's consideration of this matter to date.
Ibarra is proud to do business in Lake Elsinore and regards itseif as a
stakeholder in its future. In fact, Ibarra has been considering the expansion of its City
presence via the purchase of additional land, and placement of a second store in the
community to help sustain Lake Elsinore's residents (the "Expansion"). As a thriving
business serving its local neighborhood in the Downtown Historic District, Ibarra is
excited about the prospect of the City's development of a new civic center (the
"ProjecY'). Ibarra congratulates the City on its vision and looks forward to working with
Cify staff to insure the Project's success. However, Ibarra's enthusiasm is tempered by
its utmost desire to continue doing business at the Property.
The Ibarra family purchased the Property in 2002. Through the past five (5)
years, the Ibarra family has worked hard to make the market that it operates on the
Property (the "Market") a valuable asset for the City's people. Today, the Market is a
prosperous provider of high quality meat, produce and other grocery items to its loyal
Lake Elsinore customers. Between 2002 and 2006, the Ibarra family increased Ibarra's
annual sales around three hundred and fifty percent (350%) from approximately two
million dollars ($2,000,000.00) to over seven million dollars ($7,000,000.00).
TERRY C. ANDRUS ~ CINDY R. BECKER ~ EDWARD L BERTRAN~ ~ M. LOIS BOBAK ~ CAROLINEA B1RNE ~ PATRICK M. DESMONO ~ JAMES M. DONICH
CHRISiINA M. DOriE ~ JAMES H. EGGART ~ CRAIG G. FARRINGTON ~ JOSEPH W. FORBATH ~ BR4DLEY R. HOGIN ~ DOUGLAS C. HOLLAND
DAVID E. KENDIG ~ EDWARD Z. KOTICIN~ ~ R08ERTAA. KRAUS ~ MAGDALENA LONA-WL4NT ~ M4RK M. MONACHINO ~ LAURAA. MORGAN ~ THOM4S F. NIXON
BARBARA RAI~EANU ~ JASON S. RETTERER ~ OM4R SANDOVAL ~ JOHN R SHAW ~ MATTHEW R. SILVER ~ GREGORY E. SIMONIAN ^
KENNARD R. SMART, JR. ~ DANIEL K SPR4DLM ~ ALYSON Q SWH ~ THOMAS L. WOODRUFF
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August 28, 2007
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This success story has been driven by the Ibarra family's extensive efforts to
build their reputation and the Market's goodwill in the community. Today, the Market
has a strong repeat customer base, inclusive of a demographic cross-section of the
City's residents. Through the years, this customer base has come to know the Market
as its own grocery store. Regrettably, the intangible assets created by the ibarra family
cannot be replaced by simply relocating the Market. The MarkeYs Relocation would
require the Ibarra f8mily's re-establishment of the Market's reputation and the goodwiil
that they have worked so hard to secure.
The difficuity of this task is compounded by the Ibarra family's effective
capitalization of the Market's unique location. Located in the heart of the community
that it serves, the Market is walking distance from its customer base, largely derived
from the surrounding residential neighborhoods. A large percentage of Market
shoppers walk from their homes through the MarkeYs doors each day.
The Market is the engine driving the entire Ibarra family's livelihood. It supports
the five (5) family members who own the Property and Market, as well as their spouses
and children. Additionally, consistently strong revenues flowing from the Lake Elsinore
MarkeYs performance have allowed the Ibarra family to maintain a second less
established and profitable market still taking root in Orange County. The Lake Elsinore
Market is aiso a source of income for City residents, providing a living wage to its
twenty-five (25) employees and their families. In addition, it warrants mention here that
the Market leases a smail area to Ms. Margarita Gonzales who runs a successful travel
agency and money wiring business on the premises. Ms. Gonzales leases this Market
space for her business for six hundred doliars ($600.00) per month.
Ibarra respectfully submits that the City's Lake Front Site, "Site 2" per the City's
references throughout the ProjecYs consideration to date (the "Lake Front Site"), is the
superior site being considered. The Lake Front Site offers more room for expansion
than the above-referenced Site 1. Further, the Lake Front Site's development will
benefit all of the businesses on Main Street by drawing more traffic from the freeway
down Main Street. In addition, the Lake Front Site's utilization for the Project causes
the least amount of business disruption as it is largely unimproved land.
Ibarra certainly recognizes the benefit of, and need for a new civic center. We
are hopeful that the Lake Front Site will be chosen inasmuch as it seems the most
beneficial. However, if the City selects Site 1, ibarra is eager to work with City staff to
explore the option of the MarkeYs continued existence in the City's Downtown Historic
District, alongside the new Civic Center (the "Co-Existence Option"). In that context,
Ibarra would welcome a discussion with the City of how the MarkeYs presence might
advance the City's goals.
Should the City ultimately determine that it must pursue the Project on Site 1 on
September 11, 2007, we would ask that City staff contact our office shortly thereafter.
We wouid like to cooperatively explore the Co-Existence Option as soon as possible. If
on the other hand the Project will be implemented on Site 1 and the City does not
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August 28, 2007
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regard the Co-Existence Option as worthy of discussion, we will be representing Ibarra
through City acquisition discussions. These discussions will necessarily require that the
Property's appraisai, by both Ibarra and the City, and an assessment of the MarkeYs
substantial goodwill and relocation costs, commence fairly quickly.
Once it learned about the City's consideration of the Project, Ibarra's
consideration of the Expansion necessarily came to a grinding halt pending this matter's
conclusion. More specifically, Ibarra terminated substanti~l discussions with two (2)
Lake Elsinore land owners when the company learned that the MarkeYs continued
operation at the Property might be in jeopardy as a consequence of City acquisition.
Ibarra looks forward to re-focusing its attention on opening its third market within the
City and increasing its visibility and participation in the community. Toward that end, we
want to cooperate in every way reasonably possible with the City, and we plan to be
present at the August 30, 2007 study session and the September 11, 2007 City Council
meeting. In the interim, should you have any questions or comments, please do not
hesitate to contact the undersigned.
Very truly yours,
WOODRUFF, SPRADLIN & SMART
A Professi nal Corporation
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EDWARD Z. f~ KIN
cc: Barbara Leiboid, Esq., City Attorney
Board of Directors, Ibarra's Market, Inc.
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LEE, RUBIN, ALLEN
PARTNERSHIP
PROPOSAL TO PRESENT WHITE PAPER
TO THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
The Lee, Rubin, Allen, Partnership is requesting a time to present a reseazched paper (or White
Paper) to the City of Lake Elsinore. This paper will be presented to assist Council, Planning
Commission and Staff in making informed decisions about a possible new direction for Lake
Elsinore's future downtown business district. LRA would also like at that time to present 4,000
Lake Elsinore residents' signatures in support of this new direction. Below is a summary of the
main points contained in the paper, which will have an accompanying PowerPoint presentation.
• A request for the City to consider taller buildings downtown
• Compazisons to similaz developments in other historically-renovated downtowns
• Compaze this juncture of Lake Elsinore's downtown development to that of other ciries
•3 Compazison between cities hos6ng taller buildings versus the alternative of conventional,
land-consumptive development
• Consideration that allows Main Street to enjoy new tall buildings without destroying the
old facades
• How ta11 buildings help create a pedestrian-oriented environment and significant
economic stimulation for Main Street
• How tall buildings can create a higher quality employment environment versus
employment in tilt-up offices
• How quality of life for Elsinore citizens will be enhanced by tall buildings
• Savings in infrastructure costs resulring from tall buildings
• The attractiveness of Lake Elsinore as a more prestigious business destination resulting
from hosting tall buildings downtown
• The ecological impact of reducing sprawling office parks versus tall buildings
• How tall buildings can preserve green azeas that flow into tourism, recreation and
aesthetic destinations around downtown and the lake
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• Aesthetic benefits of tall buildings that compliment the historical cityscape of Lake
Elsinore
•A How tall buildings can revitalize Main Street
• Why the present time is most cost-effective for Lake Eisinore to increase building height
limits
• Why Lake Elsinore's downtown Main Street is specifically the best place to allow tall
buildings
• That stable growth with higher paying jobs are possible in Lake Elsinore as a direct result
of tall buildings being allowed downtown
• How tall buildings can benefit Lake Elsinore more than any other single type of
development
THIS PAPER IS AIMED AT STIMULATING AND INFORMING DISCUSSION ON
ARCHITECTURAL HEIGHT AND STYLE AND THEIR IMPACT ON LAKE ELSINORE'S
FUTURE.
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CHAMBER OF COMM
August 30, 2007
Robert Magee, Mayor
Daryl Hickxnan, Mayor Pro Tem
Services; Code Enforcement; Economic Development & Local Job
Creation; Lake Water Supply & Quality; and Parks & Recreation.
• The Public 5urvey had several key points related to selecrion & value:
o See Page 6 of 10 for Public Survey Results
o Adequate Space; Located in Historic Downtown; Potential to redevelop;
Accessibility to Freeway, Main Street and Lake; Use of Vacant Land
o Pedestrian Friendly; Revitalize of Downtown; Historic Elements;
Interpretation or Mix of Historic Traditionai & Innovative Architecture
132 West Graham Avenue • Lake Elsinore, CA 92530
(951) 245-8848 • Fax (951) 245-9127 • info@lakeelsinorechamber.com • www.lakeelsinorechamber.com
o Citizens of Lake Elsinore felt we should spend more than we presently
do on Downtown Revitalizarion; Emergency Preparedness; Police
• Civic Center Study Session Materials:
o Site 1 has 9.54 acres with significant hurdles on land ownership
o Site 2 has 16.75 acres with more space to expand, partner with developers
and has less land ownership issues
0 48% selected Site 2 their first pick which combines Lakeshore frontage,
Main St access & the lazgest acreage.
o Site 2 also answers the responses by residents wanting a Pier at the Lake,
Visitors Center and Open Space/Pazk.
In conclusion, the Lake Elsinore Valley Chamber of Commerce sees the selection of Site
2 as the genesis behind the Revitalization of Historic Downtown Main Street. Site 2 has
proximity to the Chamber of Commerce, SherifPs Station, City Park, Swick Matich
Field, Seaport Boat Launch, Lake Point Park and the Senior Center.
In response to the residents of Lake Elsinore concerns, this affords us an opportunity to
create a Pier and Boazdwalk along a significant portion of the shoreline for Public Access
and Enjoyment. The cities of Big Bear and Lake Arrowhead did not seize the moment to
protect their citizen's rights to enjoy their lakes. We are 119 years into our Mission since
Incorparation and we still have a chance to seize the moment!! Amazing!!
No longer will be have to hear, "I can see the Lake but how do you get to it and get an
chance to rest upon the shore?"
Site 2 afFords Main Street an enticing anchor to drive visitors from the freeway through
the downtown corridor and back. We believe it affards the opportunity to develop a
hotel/restaurant entertainxnent section within lot B of Site 2 as well as allows the City to
use an "interpretation or mix of historic traditional & innovative architecture" on lots B
tlu~u E.
Our vision is a gathering place along the shore for residents and visitors alike to take in
the beauty that Lake Elsinore has to offer. We look forward to partnering with the City
of Lake Elsinore to make this happen.
Sincerely,
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Kim Joseph Cousins
PresidenUCEO
La1ce Elsinore Valley Chamber of Commerce
132 W Graham Avenue
Lake Elsinore, CA 92530
951-245-8848
Lake Elsinore Valley Chamber of Commerce • 132 West Graham Avenue • Lake Elsinore, CA 92530
(951) 245-8848 • Fax (951) 245-9127 • info@lakee~sinorechamber.com • www.lakeelsinorechamber.com
SUMMARY OF LAKE ELSINORE PUBLIC WORKSHOP
SERIES- ViSIONING HISTORIC LAKE ELSINORE'S
FUTURE
COMMUNITY WIDE V/S/ON/NG FORUM, JUNE 18, APPROX. 50 ATTENDEES
NEIGHBORHOOD WORKSHOPS;
BUTTERFIELD ELEMENTARY, JUNE 20, APPROX. 25 ATTENDEES
CULTURAL CENTER, JUNE 23, APPROX. 30 A7TENDEES
WITHROW ELEMENTARY, JUNE 29, APPROX. 25 ATTENDEES
PROGRAM OVERVIEW
At all workshops, the program was designed with an introduction to the General
Plan Update project and an understanding of purpose of the workshop followed
by an interactive visioning exercise.
o The iniroduction provided by MJS staff explained the General Plan
Update process, introduced the project team and provided a status report.
The introducrion of the project also included an overview of what the
General Plan is and why the City of Lake Elsinare is updating their Plan.
Attendees included a range of citizens and interests: GPAC members, Planning
Commissioners and City Council members, developers, business owners and
residents.
At all workshops, MJS staff prepazed a series of maps for participants to review to
help understand and conceptualize the existing conditions and environmental
constraints of Lake Elsinore as they envision and plan the city. The list of maps
provided included:
o Existing Land Use (from SCAG)
o C~urently Adopted Circulation Plan
o City of Lake Elsinore Slopes
o City of Lake Elsinore Floodplains
o MSHCP Lands of Interest
o MSHCP Vegetation/ Criteria Cells
o MSHCP Plan Areas & Lands of Interest
o MSHCP Conservation Areas
o Alberhill Draft Land Use Plan
Additional graphics included:
o MSHCP Species for the Elsinore Area Plan
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o Current 1990 Land Use Plan Staristical Sumniary
COMMUNITY WIDE VISIONING FORUM
The Community Wide Visioning Forum was a unique program designed in conjunction
with the Southern California Association of Governments (SCAG). SCAG staff attended
the event and provided critical support in designing and facilitating the program. The
visioning program was an exercise by which participants were given a lazge map of the
City of Lake Elsinore and a set of "chips" which represented different types of
development. The "chips" accurately represented the densities for each land use
designation that will be identified in the general plan and were to scale with the city map
to illustrate the land consumption and land availabilily constraints.
Participants were asked to break out into groups of appro7cimately eight (8) to ten (10)
people with each group located at a table with a base map of the Cily of Lake Elsinore (to
scale with the "chips"), a"chip" set and pens for an interactive visioning session. Each
chip set included enough "chips" to accommodate the future projected population for
Lake Elsinore and "tape" representing road improvements (black) and altemative transit
routes (red).
The following direction was given each group as a starting point: identify where you live
and define your distinct neighborhood areas. The groups were then asked to use the chips
and well as the tape to create their ideal vision of the city in hventy years. Participants
used the chips to illustrate the development they would like to see, different colors of tape
to define their future circularion and were also encouraged to draw or list their ideas,
issues and concerns on the map. Participants were asked to discuss with members of
their group while MJS project staff listened, facilitated, and documented all suggesfions,
thoughts and concerns.
NEIGHBORHOOD WORKSHOPS (3)
At the neighborhood workshops, participants were again asked to create a vision for their
city. Participants were asked to break out into smaller groups, with each group located at
a table with a flip chart, base map of the City of Lake Elsinore, and pens for an
interactive visioning session. As a starting point, each group was asked to identify where
you live, define your neighborhood azeas, define your road system, and define yow
downtown. Each group was also asked what they like best about their city as well as
what can be improved. Participants were encouraged to draw and record their ideas and
concems on the map as well as discuss with members of their group while MJS project
staff listened, facilitated, and documented suggesrions, thoughts and concerns.
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SUMMARY OFCOMMENTS
The forum and workshop participants provided a wide variety of comments. The input
and feedback was comprehensive and will be very valuable in shaping the City's future
land use altematives and General Plan policies. Of the many comments received, the
main points and reoccurring ideas and concerns from all the discussions is detailed
below:
• Take advantage of the lake to revitalize and beautify the City, attract visitors, and
improve the opportunities of the citizens. Make it a healthy focal point of the
City.
• Embrace Lake Elsinore's rich lustory
^ Redevelop/ revitalize/ "refurbish" Lake Elsinore's downtown by:
o Bringing in unique services
o Providing entertainment and dining opportunities
o Developing mixed use with high density residential, entertainment, retail
and office employment in and around downtown
o Linking downtown to the Lake through urban design
^ Improve traffic and circulation throughout the City
~ Provide needed civic/ cultural institurions and healthcare seroices: hospitals,
libraries; higher educational facilities
• Create a sh-ong jobs/ housing balance with higher paying jobs
^ Establish azchitectural and other design criteria to improve the urban design to
make Lake Elsinore distinctive and attractive
• Create a comprehensive pedestrian/ bikeway path around the Lake
• Preserve and expand Lake Elsinore's recreational (extreme sport) opporhmities
• Create entryways/ gateways that invite people into the City
^ Improve the water quality of the Lake
^ Do not allow Lake Elsinore to become Temeeula & Murrieta
NEXT STEPS
The maps created by the citizens through the visioning sessions will be used to guide the
City and MJS project team in developing the future land use alternatives. Workshop
participants were also asked to complete a Workshop Quesrionnaire; all responses to the
questionnaire have been tabulated and will be provided to the City and GPAC.
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CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
SURVEY QUESTIONNAIRE
1. Please indicate how important you consider the followin
Not Very
Importaut g items to the future of Lake Elsinore.
No Very
OpiDion Ilnportent
Historic Preservation - 0 1 1 6 24
Landscaping/Trees 0 0 2 6 25
Parks 1 0 0 8 25
Architecture of New Buildings 0 3 5 7 18
Location of New Housing 2 1 7 6 16
Schools 1 I 2 5 24
ConvenientShopping 3 1 5 12 13
Police Protection I 0 1 7 24
Mix of Housing Types (including seniors and low
income)
3
0
7
11
12
ConditionofHousing ~ p Z g z3
Jobs Available in the City 2 0 3 8 20
Control of Graffiti 1 0 1 I 1 21
Bike Lanes 2 4 6 7 16
Fire Services 1 0 2 5 25
Emergency Medical Response 1 0 3 3 26
Traffic Congestion 1 0 1 9 23
Public Meeting and Gathering Places 2 0 3 15 13
RecreationalOpportunities 1 1 0 10 20
Restaurant and other Entertainment Opportunities 1 0 4 8 20 ~
Water Quality/ Tmprovement of Lake 1 0 ~ 2 3 28
TOTAL 25 12 57 155 421
2. The City allocates limited resources to address a wide range of issues. Consider the
following items and indicate if a greater (or less or the same) amount of resources should be
directed to them.
Spend Spend
te Same More
Preserving and enhancing historic sites and landscaping ~
in historic areas 3 0 9 6 12
Road Maintenance 0 0 1 14 17
Emergency Preparedness 0 0 6 10 I S
Dovmtown Revitalization 1 1 5 12 13
Encouraging ConvenientShopping 3 1 6 12 9
Encouraging a Wide Range of Housing Opportunities 3 2 5 10 12
Property Upkeep and Code Enforcement of Existing
Ordinances i n 3 a i x
Economic Development and Local Job Creation 0 0 6 12 15
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Bike I.anes 2 4 7 14 6
Redevelopment 0 2 4 11 16
Community Events 1 1 10 9 11
Road and Street Projects 0 0 2 14 15
Access to C~ty Govemment n s , ~ ., ..
Lake water supply & quality ~ 0 1 4 g 1 g
Parks and Recreation (activities & facilities) 0 2 2 13 15
TOTAI, 16 __ 18 108 186 245
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CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
MEMORANDUM
TO: MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, AND PLANNING COMMISSION
FROM: ROBERT A. BRADY, CITY 1~IANAGER'1~
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DATE: JUNE 22, 2007
SUBJECT: LAKE ELSINORE CIVIC CENTER DESIGN COMPETITION-
UPCOMING EVENTS AND PROCESS SYNOPSIS
As indicated in the Competition Briefpresented to the City Council at the April 26, 2007 Civic
Center Study Session, the Lake Elsinore Civic Center Design Competition is scheduled to host
several events throughout the coming weeks and months. This memo serves to outline the
updated course of events that wil] occur and to provide a review of the Competirion process.
The Lake Elsinore Civic Center Design Competition commenced with a reaistration process that
saw 101 firms from five of the seven continents around the world express an interest in
participatiug in the process. From that number, almost half proceeded tlu~ough Stage T.a
Statements of Esperience and Qualifications, which allowed teams to demonstrate their leval of
commihnent and capability eazly on in the Competition process. The screening process narrowed
the qualified teams to 43.
The first Competition event was held this past Saturday, June 16`h, The event, which was
optional for the desi~t teams to attend, provided an overview of the Competition process and
clarified the vision and purpose of the Civic Center project. At least 16 firms and 25 architects
and p]anners from as far as New York attended the event, as well as the Mayor; the Chair of the
RDA, a Planning Commissioner, the City Manager, the Competition Advisor, three Department
heads, and several other City staff inembers.
Today, 34 teams remain in the Lake Elsinore Civic Center Design Competition and Staff have
been working with our Competition Advisor to answer their quesfions and usher them tl~rough
the process. Typically, about 50%-G0% of the remainiug teams end up submitting their designs
for review by the Competition Jury, which means that we should expect between 15 and 20
submissions for Stage I.b. The teams have until July 11`h to submit their designs for public
exhibit and review at the Cultural Center.
The public exhibit will display the teams' submissions and provide an opportunity for the public
to provide comments on a standard forxn to be available at the eshibit. Comments received prior
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to the Jury review on July 14~' will be sunuuarized and presented to the Competition Jury and
comxnents received after the Jury review will be focused on the three fmalists' designs in order
to help provide guidance from the public to the three finalist teams.
Staff aze also working to make the teams' submissions available for public review online. The
online exhibit would help maacimize the opportunity for the public to provide input on the
designs. Additionally, the 63 submissions from the Lake Elsinore City Hall Student Drawing
Contest, which Staff developed to involve local students from grades K-6, wiil also be displayed
at the public exFubit and the nine winning student designs may be displayed online as well. As a
side note, the nine students who submitted winning designs were sent an invitation from the
Lake Elsinore Unified School District to attend the City Council meeting on July 10`~ for official
recognition of their exemplary designs.
The Stage I.b public e~ibit will take place Thursday, July 12, 2007 through Tuesday, July 17,
2007 at the Cultural Center. Staff are coordinating volunteers to staff the public exhibit during
the set hours of 11:00 am to 2:00 pm and 6:00 pm to 8:00 pm each day except for the following
exceprions:
• Friday, July 13, 2007 from 5:00 pm to 8:00 pm (only open from 11:00 am to 2:00 pm
due to reception and working dinner meeting)
• Saturday, July 14, 2007 all day and night (not open this day due to Jury Reviews)
• Tuesday, July 17, 2007 from 6:00 pm to 8:00 pm (only open &om 11:00 am to 2:00 pm
due to a Planxung Commission meeting that evening)
Staff are planuuig a working dinner meering for members of the Competirion Jury and Technical
Committee on Friday, July 13~' at the Culhual Center. The Jurors from outside of Lake Elsinore
will arrive at 4:00 pm on Friday to visit the sites with other members of the Competition Jury.
The Technical Committee will also arrive at the Cultural Center at 4:00 pm, to review the design
submissions. After the site visits the three outside jurors will check into their hotel and meet
back at the Cultural Center at azound 6:00 pm for introductions, presentations, and a working
dinner to be attended by the full seven-member Competirion Jury, ten-member Technical
Committee, the Competition Advisor, the Competition Consultant, the City Manager, and related
Ciry Staff. The working dinner will allow Competition personnel to take care of all
administrative issues and introductions before the official review of designs the next day.
Additionally, the working dinner will allow the Technical Cominittee the oppoii~uiity to express
their technical insights into the design submissions. Results of the public survey and any public
comments on the designs may also be discussed, or distributed, at the meeting.
The first official Competition Jury review of designs will begin at around 830 am Saturday
morning, July 14~h. There will be a continental breakfast on site at the Cultural Center. To help
ensure the efficient use of time, the Jury review of designs is open only to the Competition Jury,
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Tecluucal Committee, and related Comperition Advisors. While the Competition 7ury will meet
around 830 am, the Technical Committee will not be needed until lunch at 12:00 pm. Lunch will
be provided on site at the Cultural Center. Begiuning at lunch, the Technical Committee will
help answer the Competirion Jury's quesrions regarding any of the remaining designs. The
Technical Committee may also ask questions regarding any of the eliminated designs. The
review of designs is expected to last until about 4:00 pm.
After the Competition Jury recommends the three fmalists on July 14`h, the City Council will
review the Jury's report and select one of the two sites for the final stage of the Competition at
the Council meeting on July 24`h. Staff will inform the three finalist teatns of the CounciPs fmal
site selection immediately following the July 24`h Council meeting. The fmalist teams will
complete a mid-point review with the Technical Cominittee and City Staff tentafively scheduled
for August 13`h. This mid-point review will provide the Technical Committee and City Staff with
the opportwuty to help refine the finalist teams' designs for the Civic Center campus.
Stage II design submissions aze due by 5:00 pm on September 5`h. Finalist teams will be awarded
an honorarium of $20,000 for the completion of their designs; as discussed at the Study Session
on Apri126`", this honorarium will only support a fraction of the costs incurred by the teams in
preparing the design submissions. Designs will be on public and online exhibit from
September 5-8. While the precise times of this public exhibit have not been finalized, they will
likely occur &om 6:00 pm to 8:00 pm on September 5`h, and 11:00 am to 2:00 pm and 6:00 pm to
8:00 pm on September 6`n 7`n and 8`~. While the teams will retain ownership of their designs, the
City may use them for certain purposes, such as archives, exhibits, publications, media releases,
and other public relations related acrivities.
On Sunday, September 9~h, the Competirion Jury is scheduled to review the three finalists'
designs. In addition to the Comperirion Jury, the City Council, the Technical Committee, related
City Staff, and the public are invited to attend this final event. This review will include a public
presentation of the three potential degigns beginning at azound 12:00 pm. Each team will be
allotted 1 hour and 30 minutes, which includes an up to 35-minute presentation, 40 minutes for
quesrions and answers, and 15 minutes of setup and cleanup. Under the Competirion Rules, only
the Competition Jury is permitted to ask questions during the questions and answers period of
the presentations; should a member of the Technical Committee, or a member of the City
Council not on the Comperirion Jury, have a question for one of the teams the member may write
out the quesrion and give it to the Competition Advisor for presentation. At about 4:30 pm each
team will present a 5-minute suumiary of their design. The public event will conclude by 5:00
pm. After the event, the Competition Jury will begin private deliberations to recommend the
wiuuing team, and will help prepaze a Jury Report for review by the City Council. The
Competition Jury should complete their deliberations by 7:00 pm. The City Council will
announce the Jury's decision at the Council meeting on September 25`h. Subject to approval by
City Council, the wiuuing team would be commissioned to develop the design for the Civic
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Center campus. The winning team will be awarded $10,000 as an advance on fees. The City has
the right to negoriate an agreement with the winning team; should no agreement be reached, the
City reserves the right to cease negoriations with no further obligarion to the winning team.
For your quick reference, please find the attached Competition timeline, public survey results,
and guest list for the July 13`h working dinner.
cc: PSAC, Competition Technical Committee, Depariment Directors, City Staff
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ATTACHMENT A: COMPETITION TIMELINE
Con;nr~ncement
ivlarch
Com etition Br~ief Released Tuesda , iUiav 1. 2007
Sta e L~i Qualifications Due/Re .isCration Cioszs «ed~iesday, \Qav 30; 2007
Atmouncement of Eli~rible Teams for Sta~e Lb Tuesday, )une 5, 2007
Optional Competition Briefing/Sife tiisits ~~ith [~IigiUle S~hnday, June 1G, 200?
Teams
First uestion and Answer Period Closes Monda , June 30, 2007
Sta e I.b Submissions Due to Axrive at Ci Hall Wednesda , Jul 11, 2007
Public EJChibit of Stage I.b Submissions Thursday, July 12-Tuesday, July
17, 2007 (with certain exceptions
as ouflined abovel
Jur Review of Sta e I.b Submissions Saturda , Jul 14 2007
Announcement of Stage II Finalists and Site Selection by Tuesday, July 24, 2007
Second uestion and Answer Period ens Thursda , 7u1 25, 2007
Sta e II Discussions with Teams Au ust dates to be deterniined
Mid Point Review of Designs with Technical Monday, August 13, 2007
Second uestion and Answer Period Closes Monda , Au st 6, 2007
Sta e II Submissions Due to Arrive at Ci Hall Wednesda , Se tember 5, 2007
Public E~chibit of Stage II Submissions Wednesday, September 5-
Sahuda , Se tember 8, 2007
Public Presentation of Stage II Submissions (35 minute Sunday, September 9, 2009
presentation/40 minute Q&A total per finalist)/Jury
Review of StaQe II Submissions
Announcement of Competition Winner and Awards/City I Tuesday, September 25, 2007
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Adequate space for growth 1 48%
Cost Z 42o~a
Located in Historic Downtown 3 39%
Potential to redevelop azea 4 36%
Accessibility from freeway 5 30%
Proximity to Main Street 6 29%
Proximity to Lake 7 27%
c
Pedestrian friendly environment 1 51%
Revitalizarion of downtown 2 43%
Openness and accessibility 3 43%
Historical elements of the area 4 41 %
Interpretation or mix of historic traditional and innovative architecture 5 35%
Civic pride 6 34%
Promoting a downtown nighflife 7 33%
Environmental sustainability 8 30%
"Green" building strategies 9 29°/o
Modernarchitecture 10 21%
Traditional architecture 11 18%
"Dream Extreme" theme 12 13%
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ATTACHMENT B: PUBLIC SURVEY RESULTS
MEMORANDUM
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Pier at the Lake 1 45%
Museum/visitor center 2 44%
Open space/park 3 42%
Library 4 42%
Community meeting/events space 5 42%
City Hall 6 42%
Water feature/monumenUart 7 40%
Community theatre/stage 8 39%
Children's Lake Ecology Center 9 36%
Retail shops 10 36%
Council Chambers 11 31%
Restaurants 12 31%
Recreational facilities/space 13 31%
Playground 14 30°/o
County/State/Federal offices 15 24%
Post office 16 24%
Private offices 17 10%
Business incubator 18 7%
1 48%
2 19%
3 12%
Overall Site Rank
A downtown site with the largest available acreage
Overall Site Rank
1
1 21%
2 30%
3 25%
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A downtown site that combines Lakeshore frontage, Main StreeUfreeway access
and largest acreage
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A downtown site on Main Street with freeway access, regazdless of available
acreage
1 14%
2 28%
3 42%
The Lake: central focus, recreation, view, pier, boardwalk 1 93%
Travel: traffic issues, additional parking, handicap/emergency access, bus
transit 2 90%
Refurbish Environment: streets, code enforcement, technology, lighting 3 80%
Safety Issues: police intervenrion, gangs, graffiti, illegal aliens, prostitution,
homeless, ghetto 4 70%
Beach town: hotel resortlcasino, tourist attraction, little shops, water park, 5 62%
Entertainment: multi-purpose auditorium, concerts, nightlife, mall, revenue 6 58%
Old Town: memorials, old-fashioned, heritage, preserve/use of old buildings 7 57%
Park and Recreation: family oriented, activities, sports park, gym 8 42%
Busiuess: police station, DMV, courthouse, larger firms, hospital 9 36%
The Civic Center Specifics: Diamond location, vacant lands, avoid
evacuation, low taxes 10 21%
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Occasionally 1 43%
Infrequently (less than 5 days a year) 2 29o~o
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ATTACHMENT C: JULY 13T" GUEST LIST
Competirion Thomas Buckley Counciimember and City CounciURDA
Jury Chair of the RDA
Comperition Genie Kelley Councilmember and City CounciURDA
Jury Vice-Chair of the RDA
Competition Carl Johnson President of Neaz-Cal Near-Cal Corporation
Jury Corporation
Comperition
TBA
TBA (A Community
TBA
J~ Representative)
Competirion
William Fain Jr.
~ President of AIA Los
Angeles and Managing AIA Los Angeles/7ohnson
J~ FA
Partner of Johnson Fain Fain
Director of Graduate
Com erition
p
Ming
Fung Programs at SCI-Arc
and Principal at
SCI-Arc/Hodgetts+Fung
J~ Hodgetts + Fung Design Associates
Design Associates
Com erition
P Principal-In-Charge at
Moore Ruble Yudell
J~ James O'Connor Moore Ruble Yudell ~chitects and Planners
Architects and Planners
Technical
Committee John Gonzales Planning
Commissioner plamuiig Commission
Technical Rolfe Preisendanz Director of Community City of Lake Elsinore
Committee Development
Technical
Committee Ken Seumalo Director of Public
Works City of Lake Elsinore
Technical Ruth Atkins President Lake Elsinore Historical
Committee Society
Technical ~ck Carpenter President Downtown Merchants'
Committee Association
Technical
Committee ~ Cousins President Chamber of Commerce
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Committe Nancy Johnson Librarian, (or Bazbara County Library
e Howison)
Technical
Committee Leiloni Purcell ?
Friends of the Library
Technical (Facilities
Committee TBA TBA Engineer/Eost Office Post Office
Representative)
Technical Robert Whipple Water Conservation Elsinore Valley Municipal
Committee Specialist Water District
Competition
Advisor gill Liskamm,
FAIA Compefltion Advisor N/A
Competition
Competition Collyer; Consultant, Editor of Competitions Magazine
Consultant Stanley Ph.D, Hon. Competitions and The Compefition
AIA Magazine, and Project Inc.
Author/Lecturer
City Manager Robert A. Brady City Manager City of Lake Elsinore
Director of Director of
Administrarive Matt Pressey Administrative City of Lake Elsinore
Services Services
Redevelopment
Project Steven McCa
~ Redevelopment Project
City of Lake Elsinore
Manager
Manager
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