HomeMy WebLinkAbout08-21-2012 NAHCITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
F1 PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING
MINUTES OF AUGUST 21, 2012
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Morsch called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Jordan led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chairman Morsch
Vice Chairperson O'Neal
Commissioner Blake
Commissioner Gray
Commissioner Jordan
Absent: None
Also present: Acting Community Development Director Morelion, Public Works
Director Seumalo, Planning Associate Resendiz, Planning Consultant Donahoe,
Planning Consultant Coury, Deputy City Attorney Mann, and Office Specialist
Herrington.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
None.
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM(S)
Minutes for the following Planning Commission meeting(s)
a. June 5, 2012
Recommendation: Approval
Deputy City Attorney Mann stated that at the last Planning Commission meeting,
certain Planning Commissioners were not comfortable voting on the Minutes with
respect to a meeting that they did not attend on June 5, 2012. He stated that the
Commissioners are entitled not to vote on the Minutes if they did not attend the
meeting. If they prefer, they can abstain again, and take the votes of the
Commissioners that are comfortable voting.
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Minutes of August 21, 2012
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Motion by Vice Chairman O'Neal, seconded by Commissioner Jordan, to
approve the Planning Commission Minutes of June 5, 2012, Motion passed by 3-
0-2 vote, with Commissioner's Gray and Blake abstaining.
b. June 19, 2012
Recommendation: Approval
Motion by Vice Chair O'Neal, seconded by Commissioner Jordan, to approve the
Planning Commission Minutes of June 19, 2012; with the following revisions:
Omit "Provides that the rear fencing to be wood that is adjacent to lot 326 ", and
change the word "Provide" to "Suggested" a view fence between the property
lines of 326 and 340; Motion passed by 4 -0 -1 vote with Commissioner Blake
abstaining.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS)
2. Tentative Tract Map No. 35000 —
Section 16 "Subdivisions" of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code (LEMC)
Recommendation
Adopt a resolution recommending to the City Council of the City of Lake
Elsinore approval of Tentative Tract Map No. 35000, based on the
attached findings, exhibits and conditions of approval.
Planning Consultant Coury presented the staff report.
Sharon Suhu -Wong of Los Angeles, stated that she contacted Planning
Consultant Coury regarding a discrepancy of size of acres that was on the Public
Hearing Notice. The Notice indicated 137.1 acres, and the staff report indicated
1,137.1 acres. She stated that surrounding property owners were not given the
proper information and for that reason, those property owners possibly did not
show up to the meeting. Chairman Morsch asked Deputy City Attorney Mann if
this item would have to be continued due to the discrepancy of acreage. Deputy
City Attorney Mann stated that the Commission would need to determine if the
discrepancy is a "material difference" in terms of the notification to the property
owners.
Sharon Gallina, resident of Lake Elsinore, stated that she never received a
�I Notice and she showed up at the meeting because she saw the Notice posted at
City Hall. She also stated that the discrepancy on the Notice is a big problem
and if her neighborhood would have known about it, they would have attended
the meeting.
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The applicant, Hardy Stozier, Environmental Consultant for the project, stated
that he believes the Public Hearing was published in the Press Enterprise and
everyone that lived within a 300 foot radius did receive a Notice. Planning
Consultant Coury confirmed.
Chairman Morsch clarified that what was being discussed at this time was Item
No. 2, not Item No. 3.
Commissioner Blake asked for clarification regarding legal noticing to residents
and the radius of noticing. Mr. Strozier clarified that it is a 300 foot radius to
notify residents throughout the entire 1000+ acre property. The applicant
provided the radius maps and mailing labels which were verified by the Title
Company. Vice Chairman O'Neal asked who prepared the Notice. Planning
Consultant Coury stated that staff prepared the Notice. Commissioner Blake
stated that the typo came from the City and asked if this is a legitimate Notice
because there is quite a difference in the number of acreage.
The applicant, Tom Tomlinson of Castle & Cooke, addressed the Commission
regarding the Tentative Tract Map and clarified the discrepancy of acreage on
the Notice and in the staff report. He stated that the actual acreage is 1,371.1
which is identified correctly in the body of the staff report. He noted that the
mining operation and the development are separate entities.
Acting Community Development Director Morelion stated that if the Commission
decides to approve this, it still has to go to the City Council for approval at which
time a correct Notice of Public Hearing will be sent out and re- circulated to
residents within the legal radius.
Commissioner Gray stated that since the item will be presented to the City
Council with the correct information, he doesn't object to the project.
Commissioner Jordan has no objection because it will be presented to the City
Council.
Vice Chairman O'Neal stated that he is troubled by the fact there was a mistake
on the Notice but is not too concerned because it will be re- noticed with the
correct information and will be presented to the City Council.
Chairman Morsch stated that although he is sympathetic to those that were
misinformed due to the discrepancy of information on the Notice, he doesn't think
it rises to the level of re- noticing and believes it doesn't affect the overall
operation, and has no impact on the neighboring communities.
Motion by Commissioner Jordan and seconded by Commissioner Gray to
approve Resolution No. 2012 -25, a Resolution of the Planning Commission of
the City of Lake Elsinore, California, recommending to the City Council of the City
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F1of Lake Elsinore, approval of Tentative Tract Map No. 35000 Generally located
on the West side of Lake Street at Temescal Road; Motion passed 5 -0.
3.
Planning Consultant Coury presented the staff report.
Paul Macarro, Cultural Coordinator for the Pechanga Reservation, stated that
they are not opposed to the project rather to a lack of mitigation measures for
their ancestors' cultural resources.
Commissioner Jordan asked Mr. Macarro what he is in opposition to. Mr.
Macarro stated that they are opposed to the sudden change in the mitigation
monitoring. Commissioner Jordan asked what Pechanga would like to see done.
Michelle Fahley, House Council with the Pechanga Tribe, stated that they would
like to have their Tribal Monitors there as they have with Lake Elsinore in the
past. Commissioner Jordan informed her that this requirement was in the
Conditions of Approval. Ms. Fahley stated that the condition, referring to
Condition No. 18 is one of the most disrespectful to come out of the City because
it allows the Director to determine who the Tribal Monitor will be.
Chairman Morsch asked Ms. Fahley to walk through Condition No. 18 and point
out her areas of concern. Ms. Fahley referred the statements appropriate Native
American Tribal Representative, and designate the Native American Tribal
Archaeological Monitor (Monitor) volunteer and would like those two statements
revised.
Acting Community Development Director Morelion stated that it was never
intended for staff to pick a monitor from each tribe.
Chairman Morsch stated that their intention is to preserve Indian artifacts and he
would like to see a general agreement. Ms. Fahley stated that they provided
comments to the City regarding their concerns and the Mitigation Measure and
the conditions of Approval that are proposed for the project are not acceptable to
the Tribe which they expressed to the City. She is requesting to work with staff
and bring back a Mitigation Measure that both sides can be happy with and also
to revise the Condition to state "the appropriate Tribe" with a footnote that names
j� Pechanga as the appropriate Tribe. She also requested compensation for the
monitor.
Chairman Morsch asked Ms. Fahley if they would accept a Tribe volunteer to do
the monitoring. Ms. Fahley stated that the monitors should be compensated for
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F1their work and to not be compensated is disrespectful to the Tribe. Chairman
Morsch asked what they would charge. Ms. Fahley stated that depending on the
monitoring, two thousand dollars.
Commissioner Jordan asked Mr. Tomlinson to clarify what will be done at the
location. Mr. Tomlinson stated that there will be no grading, just stockpiling, and
treating the soil so something will grow. He stated that he has no problem listing
a Tribe but the Tribe would need to indemnify the City and the applicant against
challenges from other Tribes. Ms. Fahley stated they would agree to this but
their main concern is new soil that hasn't been touched, and they would like to
look at the stockpiles.
Planning Consultant Coury stated that during the environmental review period,
staff received letters from four tribes, including Pechanga, and that was the basis
of the current statement in the conditions. Also, a Tribe requested to meet with
staff but was unable to meet and they were notified of the Planning Commission
meeting and did not attend.
Vice Chairman O'Neal asked what the other Tribes were. Planning Consultant
Coury stated Soboba, Pala, Morongo, and Pechanga, and noted that Soboba
FI was the Tribe that requested the meeting.
Paulie Tehrani stated that she had a copy of an E -Mail that was sent in 2010 to
Tom Weiner from Hardy Strozier stating that he didn't think staff can do their job
properly.
Commissioner Gray stated that he shares the interest of the other
Commissioners regarding the concerns that have been expressed regarding the
interests of the Pechanga Luiseno Tribal group and it was news to know that
there were other Tribal groups also interested in providing monitoring.
Commissioner Jordan stated that she noticed that the APN numbers on the
Resolutions do not match the APN numbers on the Reclamation Plan. Planning
Consultant Coury stated that the APN numbers on the Resolutions are the
correct numbers and he would correct the APN numbers on the Reclamation
Plan.
Commissioner Jordan stated that Condition No. 10 needs to be revised due to a
typo and stated that lodged needs to be replaced with logged. She asked Mr.
Strozier what timeframe he estimates the monitoring and the re- vegetation to be
completed. Mr. Strozier stated that the Reclamation Plan states that the
applicant will grow and monitor as long as it takes to reach 80% coverage and
j� the conditions require the applicant to submit to the City an annual report of the
llandscape status each year through an independent monitor.
Commissioner Jordan stated that Condition No. 50.f needs to be revised as it is
missing the remainder of the sentence. Mr. Strozier stated that the entire
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sentence needs to be struck because it doesn't pertain to the annual report
information. Public Works Director Seumalo agreed and indicated that he would
omit the entire sentence.
Chairman O'Neal asked Mr. Strozier to discuss the Biological Study for the
Reclamation Plan. Mr. Strozier reviewed the Biological Study and the results.
Chairman O'Neal requested that WYROC come back to the Commission to
review the conditions.
Chairman Morsch stated that he agrees with the Conditions and noted the
significance of the historic artifacts which should be recovered and preserved
responsibly.
Commissioner Blake stated that it is good that the Reclamation Plan guarantees
vegetation growth and puts the responsibility onto the applicant. He is glad to
see that the Tribal interests are being addressed by the City.
Motion by Commissioner Jordan and seconded by Vice Chairman O'Neal to
approve Resolution No. 2012 -26, a Resolution of the Planning Commission of
the City of Lake Elsinore, California, adopting findings that the project identified
as Reclamation Plan No. 2011 -01 is exempt from the Multi- Species Habitat
Conservation Plan (MSHCP); Motion passed 5 -0.
Motion by Commissioner Blake and seconded by Commissioner Gray to approve
Resolution No. 2012 -27, a Resolution of the Planning Commission of the City of
Lake Elsinore, California, approving Mitigated Negative Declaration No. 2012 -02;
Motion passed 5 -0.
Motion by Commissioner Blake and seconded by Commissioner Gray to approve
Resolution No. 2012 -28, a Resolution of the Planning Commission of the City of
Lake Elsinore, California, approving Reclamation Plan No. 2011 -01, with the
Amendment to Condition No. 18 to state *(Pechanga is the appropriate Tribe and
will conduct monitor activities at a fee not to exceed $5,000.00); deleting the
word volunteer; deleting Condition No. 50.f; and correcting Condition No. 10
replacing the word lodged with logged; Motion passed 5 -0.
4.
Density Residential
Planning Consultant Donahoe presented the staff report.
I Vice Chairman O'Neal stated that he has an issue with a CMU zone at Mission
Trail between Diamond Drive and the Bowling Alley. He stated that he
understands the notion of pedestrian friendliness and the ideas that go with the
mixed use idea; he doesn't think the area will ever change to include a residential
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component. Planning Consultant Donahoe stated that a CMU zone can be built
as commercial only and noted that there is no requirement for a residential
component in the CMU zone. She also stated that the City wants to provide the
opportunity for residential which can develop in conjunction with the commercial.
In addition, she stated that the subject zone change is the final step in
implementing the newly adopted General Plan.
Commissioner Blake stated that this was a very admirable task for staff. He
asked if there have been any building permit inquiries. Planning Consultant
Donahoe stated that although there haven't been any building permit inquiries,
there has been interest in the Downtown area and there have been people that
have benefited from the General Plan designations.
Commissioner Gray stated that the changes as proposed demonstrate long term
thinking which is very appropriate to the planning function in the City and
applauded staffs work.
Commissioner Jordan noted one typo on the staff report, Section 2c and
requested to delete multiple4- family and replace with multiple - family. She also
stated that Planning Consultant Donahoe did a good job.
Chairman Morsch stated that adding the opportunity for mixed use is the way of
the future and is very pleased with the zone change. He stated that the most
important element is public feedback and to encourage participation from the
community for all of the areas affected. He applauded the City's effort noticing
the community and getting feedback. He asked if the zone changes are going to
affect elements of the City's Municipal Code.
Acting Community Development Director Morelion stated that the RMU and the
CMU have their own standards which are Citywide and have been adopted into
the Municipal Code. He stated that regarding the Multi - Family designation, the
City already has standards and will not be developing anymore zones or
standards.
Motion by Commissioner Jordan and seconded by Commissioner Gray to
approve Resolution No. 2012 -29, a Resolution of the Planning Commission of
the City of Lake Elsinore, California, recommending approval of Zone Change
No. 2012 -03, known as the Consistency Zoning Project — Phase I, changing the
zoning of various parcels in the City to (CMU) Commercial Mixed Use or (RMU)
Residential Mixed Use or (R -3) High Density Residential; Motion 5 -0.
BUSINESS ITEMS
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None.
STAFF COMMENTS
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Public Works Director Seumalo wished everyone a happy holiday.
Planning Consultant Donahoe stated that the CMU and RMU have no minimum
lot sizes.
Acting Community Development Director Morelion stated that if the
Commissioners have any standards for the eventual Code update to forward to
him and he will put them on a list to address with a future comprehensive Code
update.
CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
Deputy City Attorney Mann had no comments.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Commissioner Blake stated that he is impressed with the staffs hard work and is
excited to see that businesses are coming back to the City such as Lone Star
Restaurant.
Vice Chairman O'Neal stated that a few people asked him about yard sales and
he suggested that the City establish a quarterly yard sale that is date specific
requested that no Code Enforcement required. Also, he would like to see the
Commission review all of the conditions of approval for the WYROC area. He
stated that he doesn't believe it's being serviced very well and noted that the
location is at commercial corner that people drive by when coming into the City
which doesn't look good.
Chairman Morsch stated that he has been disturbed by WYROC's operation
since 2003 and requested that an Agenda item be added regarding the status of
the WYROC operation. He also requested another item be added to the Agenda
regarding murals in the City and recommended Studio 365 which is an
organization of local artists that are trying to beautify the City with murals.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the Planning Commission,
Chairman Morsch adjourned the meeting at 8:22 p.m.
The Lake Elsinore Planning Commission will adjourn to a regular meeting to be
held on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, at 6:00 p.m. to be held at the Cultural
Center located at 183 N. Main Street, Lake Elsinore, CA 92530.
Rick Morsch, Chairman
City of Lake Elsinore
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Warren Morelion
Acting Community Development Director
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