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Home My WebLink AboutPSAC 04-14-2010 Agenda Item No. 1 MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, MARCH 10, 2010 CALL TO ORDER — 6:00 P.M. Chairman Norkin called the meeting to order at 6:01 p.m PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Vice -Cha' ailey. ROLL CALL PRESENT: CHAIRM NORKIN VICE -CH EY COMMISSI MINGS COMMISSIO R LD rrVed at 6:05 p.m. OMMISSIO E ABSENT: NO Also present were: In ni ons Manager Dennis, Assistant City Attorney M Ser Ros Sergeant Liebrand, Police Sergeant Sinz, Fire Cap Juare lic Director /City Engineer Seumalo and Administrative Assist altza. PUBLIC C i i ENTS None. COMMISSION APP ES CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM (S 1. Minutes of the February 10, 2010 Public Safety Advisory Commission Chairman Norkin asked if there were any corrections to the Minutes. There being no comments, Chairman Norkin called for a motion. MOTION was made by Vice -Chair Dailey and seconded by Commissioner Fairchild approving the Consent Calendar. Agenda Item No. 1 Public Safety Advisory Commission " March 10, 2010 Page 2 of 17 AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN VICE -CHAIR DAILEY COMMISSIONER FAIRCHILD 'Woo COMMISSIONER STEWART NOES: NONE ABSENT: COMMISSIONER CUMMINGS BUSINESS ITEMS 2. Presentation: Crime Free Multi-Housing Pro ram S uA Update (presenter: Mark Dennis. City of Lake Elsinore) Information /Communications Manager Den ' gav a Power *introduced g (please see attached). Mr. Dennis indicated that w mo s ago PSA sked with the CFMH program that the City form to d mine whd take to restart that program and what resources nee i. place. the subcommittee members, Commissioner Stewa Commissioner Fairchild, Sgt. Rose, Dep. Liebrand is our CFM ordinator desi . He also introduced a panel of experts: • Kimberly Crutchfield, specia ing i ' mg & law enforcement Crime Free M using Coo r r, Riv a Police Department • Cara Ma Boar Directors Partners Association, Riverside. • Paul Goodwi rds'rights P ball, & LP onica Lop eci m fair housing and tenants'rights gram Man a Fair using Council of Riverside County Chairman n asked by show of hands, they could find out who in the audience are actually p rty agers and owners. By show of hands : ere were a total six managers and owners in the audience. Information /Communications Manager Dennis commented that staff sent out over 77 letters. The Crime Free program started in October 2009, and their goal is to present to City Council recommendations for a Crime Free program in a few months, and to make sure this fits the City's budget. Agenda Item No. 1 ` no* Public Safety Advisory Commission March 10, 2010 Page 3 of 17 Mr. Dennis provided some background on the City: It is 122 years old and started in San Diego County. When Riverside County was formed, the jurisdiction swept the City in so it became one of the oldest cities in Riverside County in 1888. The City has great potential and in 2006 when the economy was going well, the City became the 3 rd fastest growing City in the State of California. Costco, Target, Home Depot, Lowe's, dealerships were opening; a lot of homebuilding was stimulating the economy. By 2007, the City was dealing with a lot less revenue than what it was used to having for the services that it was expected to provid . By 2030 the City was expected to look like our nei rs in terms of population having over 100,000, along with the new cities of Wil d Menifee. Currently, the City spends almost half of its bud n ublic s : fire and police. We did a survey to find out what happe ` to our Crime Free Did the interest change, did the need change, o i sup p change? M ennis thinks it was all of the above. We want to continue n e at a 50,0 population. There being no comments, Chair Norkin called motion. MOTION was made by Chairman o secon y Vice -Chair Dailey to approve receive and file. AYES: C ORKIN `J . E -CH DAILEY ISSI ER CUM CO IR D OM ON ART S: N 3. Crime ulti -Ho usi Public Forum: Q & A Alexandra , No shore Apartments on Joy Street. Q: When yo property that's in the red, how do you encourage your management co y to spend the money on a gate that's not working for parking? Carrie Madrid: A: You just have to keep at them, and get your residents behind you and start sending letters to the owners. It's good to have Code Enforcement involved and having it written on paper will get it done quickly. I do not believe in having gates because it doesn't really secure you, and it's up to each individual to keep themselves secure. Agenda Item No. 1 Public Safety Advisory Commission March 10, 2010 Page 4 of 17 Chairman Norkin: Q: What kinds of crimes have you seen on your property, and what kinds of solutions were provided by being a part of this program? Ms. Madrid: A: The first property I took over in Riverside was one of the worst. I went to the police substation and got their support, as well as my owner's support, and out of 33 units, I evicted 17. Kimberly Crutchfield: A: Also, with the background checks in this progr to serve with the lease addendum, serve the 3-day evictions on the obvious s, the ones that weren't aware of by working with the partnerships w' the department, and specifically with the Crime Free officers, and th p ered ISO. Ms. Madrid: A: The Crime Free addendum, the - otice quit. I do ive second chances and I don't hear any excuses and I'v e d one that as fought it. I get the support of the gang and narcotics offi This program is awesome but you have to work it every single o maintain yo perty. Right now, I have no issues on my property, and it's al reening, m re the residents know that the house rules are there for a s that I do give second chances on my Crime Free addendum. I plainl tat ey make their application. The rental criteria cle tates that i are a er to the health and safety of any other resident rty, or the tall, they ill be denied. You have to work Crime Free eve gle d D maintain ur property. I have the Crime Free sign on my front do r, I've people se t sign and they just turn around and walk away. Paul dwin. Le them know you g a background criminal check will send those p eople away, the on't apply. Chairman kin: Q: Who in audie here is experiencing problems with drug dealers, gang members, and ing place? And what is your knowledge of the Crime Free program, are you iliar with it or is this the first time you're hearing about it? Jenny Ward: A: I am a Certified Residential Manager and I have apartments on Woodcrest and I'm the only property owner there that does any kind of checks that I know of. I have so many problems there, and I'm very discouraged. I know of a property owner who won't replace a fence that's down. There are motorcycles racing up and down the street. I'd rather leave my units empty than to rent them to people who I'd be discouraged with when I interview them. Agenda Item No. 1 "raw Public Safety Advisory Commission March 10, 2010 Page 5 of 17 Chairman Norkin: Q: What are some of the tools that this program will give a property owner or manager to use, what can they do, what power do they have, and how can it help? Mr. Goodwin: A: The following tools can be applied whether you have the program or not. One great thing about Crime Free housing is that you get to know an officer that's heading that program. For instance, if a police is called ou o one of the units, and there are drugs found in that unit, you can get the inform om that Crime Free officer and find out if you have enough evidence to s a 3 -day nuisance notice. You can also subpoena that police officer to testify . ction trial and get rid of those tenants on a 3 -day notice, even if it's in the le o m lease. Regarding unauthorized documents where y have people los omes and they move in with your tenants, and suddenly have t people livin unit, that can cause problems. If you have up -to- es w all the o p listed, and you have the language there that no other is are permi d without the written authorization of the owner, you can s a 3 -day notice that cites that paragraph in the lease, and file a ction based o t notice. Ms. Ward: Q: My complaints and discouragem s ar erty owners of the units on either side of her that othing abo prob Where do my rights come in with that other per Mr. Goodwin: A: That is a difficult f ro r is set up to help your properties. If you have nei rope wne en't living up to it, then your only recourse would o go City, ode Enforcement, to call the police, and that's all you ca with that. ogre out making your property the best it can be. Vice -C alley: Q: Have .seen situ ons where you can get other owners on board to join the Crime Free m? r Ms. Madrid: A: Peer Pressur is a good thing. We've taken landlords to court and had the court order them to go into the Crime Free program. We take the Code Enforcement and Fire Dept. caravanning with us to look at these properties and right away they start writing up notices. My suggestion is to start being loud, get to know the area officers; it will take a while and it took me four hears to clean up my first property. Mr. Gifford: Q: I'm a property owner here and was part of the last Crime Free program. I don't have problems on my property because I handle the problems. I screen people, I Agenda Item No. 1 Public Safety Advisory Commission March 10, 2010 Page 6 of 17 evict people, I do police reports, I do all that. I believe the question is: If you're going to start this program up, what advantage is it going to be for me to join this program? If my property is clean and Crime Free and others around me aren't, how will joining the program benefit me? Ms. Ward: I can't rent to good people. I don't know what to do. If I could sell my property, I'd move out of Lake Elsinore. I can't get any kind of help; I've joined this program before and I drop up from San Diego to attend this meeting t ight. Chairman Norkin's question to Ms. Ward: What kind of help are you looking for specifically say you're not getting any help? For instance, do you need more police, ore Enforcement, etc.? Ms. Ward: y I do my criminal checks, I do my credit ch , I hav a house poll I require cleanliness, Chairman Norkin's question to Assistant City rney Mann: What can the City do, by law, to a property o lean up their neighborhood, or can the City force a property o lean up the rty that are in disrepair and causing problems? Assistant City Attor ann: Yes, with respect nforcem proble I don't know if the City can get into the busines telling pie who t can or cannot rent to. There is a Code Enforcement Ii ity sn't have a . pection program. Typically, the City's Code Enforcement r laint ,P Chair No Q: uld the Ci pro nd have the Code Enforcement to have the a within the Fire rogram to go out and look at these properties, or would ve to wait com aints first? Vice -Chair Q: When we d with this program, that we put in there some type of Code Enforcement swe , perhaps twice a year. Mr. Gifford: Q: I know the City is strapped cash -wise and cash equates to people in the field. I know your Code Enforcement people have their schedules as they go thru the different neighborhoods at different times, but is the City prepared dollar -wise to handle extra inspections? Agenda Item No. 1 "wool Public Safety Advisory Commission March 10, 2010 Page 7 of 17 Vice -Chair Dailey: Her response was that a few years ago, Code Enforcement went up and down her street citing people for brown lawns. The City can prioritize Code Enforcement to focus more on multi- housing units where there's crime rather than on brown lawns. The City would have to look at the resources and the availability. Whether it's once a year or twice a year, there should be some type of standardized routine. Public comment: I'd like to rebut that. I'm new to the property management i ustry, and I don't have a lot of experience, but I'm wondering if we as the pro . anagers or owners should really take more responsibility. What it sounds ' here is that we're putting the onus on the City. The City is strapped for cash nnel. Wouldn't it make more sense if the property managers and owners d res s took responsibility, which I thought this was really going to be abo need p up to the plate, not pass it off to the police officers and insp . rs. a need to 0 our neighbors and point out all the problems to them, a 'make t em pay bec ney talks. Once they have to pay out of their poc a at's n they have start paying attention. They will find out that it's cheaper t a nce, than risk paying a fine over and over again. So, I think as residen the City, we should take more responsibility and not to put it o City employ r the City budget to get this done. Without contacting the owner, just w do dr s and list all the things that are wrong. It's more ut you ow prop e d you want to rent it out, and you're doing your r neighbo aren't. if you can make a difference in one year by putt' an h each wee nd becoming that squeaky wheel, it might clean things up. Chairm �. You c cces ity's icipal Code on the City's Web site. I agree somewhat wit at you said, I thin ds to be a partnership. The City is here to fight fo ople that ne elp. o, a property owner and a business owner, it's my respon to make a th` t my property is kept up, and that the people that don't wan y prope are not there. I'm sensing two very distinct things: We've got issues w ngs d drugs that the Crime Free program will help alleviate, but at the same ti ave slum lords, we're strapped for cash for many reasons. We have many b ted properties in the City with owners who don't do anything about it. Unfort ately, we can only make recommendation but when you ask the question, "Are we prepared to stand up and fight for the program" I can't speak for my fellow Commissioners, but I can tell you as a property owner and as a resident of the City, but that decision lies with the City Council. So, property owners like yourselves have to come to the City Council meetings and let them know the difficulties you're having with the people around you, because ultimately they're the ones that are going to make the decisions and dictate to staff what gets done in our City. We can make all the recommendations we want, but if the Council members don't hear from you, and this is my first time hearing about Woodcrest and it sounds Agenda Item No. 1 Public Safety Advisory Commission March 10, 2010 Page 8 of 17 like you've had a long history of problems over there, you have to become that squeaky wheel. We need to find you an outlet to get the help that you need. What I'm saying is that you can go to a Council meeting and give a list of addresses and a list of the problems at these addresses, the first thing I can guarantee you that the Council will do, is to go to staff and whoever is in charge of Code Enforcement and show them the list of problems. Then they are going to go out and do their due diligence and go back and report to Council, and if I were you, I'd be here at every Council meeting at 7:00 p.m., and I'd be complaining every ingle day. I know you live in San Diego and it's a long drive up here, but this ect change. We've come a long way in five years, since PSAC began but only way we can continue is by you showing up at the Council meetings. I think some of your problems are outside the a ree pr parameters, but it's a Code Enforcement issue that can be a sse thru City s Mr. Gifford: Q: If there are managers that are handling t e s correctl , what can this program do for us? I myself would support the ram because the more owners learn to manage their propertie erly, it's go take the crime out of the neighborhood. Why would I join? e I was wi st program, I'm a little skeptical. There were promises th w e that c n't be kept because they were unrealistic. One promise was at w i to get more attention from the police departmen a had prob , and umed out to be nothing. My next question is ho get off th round? Chairman Nor in. A: That's one of th ha g this meeting today, is to find out the pitfalls o_ t wr ast can't fix what we don't know was broken, and I n't he s a enever this program was. I'm learning about this with YO gain, if you the "1 meetings and say you support it as a property o n en we hav u to ify that you want it, because ultimately the City Counci s for you. Public corn I think it would` to incorporate in addition to your crime what it would take to also address the' ted areas, and come up with a 2 -prong program, one of which would be a fee f r only the crime portion, and a fee for the property owners who want to address the blighted areas. Nothing goes without a cost, but the reality is that the problem is significantly more than just the crime. Robert Ralph: Q: I am a property manager at Broadstone River's Edge, one of the newer communities here in Lake Elsinore. I think there are some negative connotations associated with the program and I think some misunderstandings or misconceptions may have led to the unsuccessful programs in the • past, like for instance the Agenda Item No. 1 �' Public Safety Advisory Commission March 10, 2010 Page 9 of 17 gentleman here who expected special treatment by the police department. If these misunderstandings can be addressed in future mailings, perhaps the property owners and managers will come out to the meetings and become more proactive in it. I have one more question — as a manager we understand that resources are tight and we don't want to be a nuisance, but we want to contact the proper people for the proper reasons to where we will get a response. So my question to you is, "How effective will this program be, and what will be the response time to those communities when there is an issue ?" Sgt. Rose: A: Any call that comes into dispatch is prioritized, so ' depends on what else is going on at the same time. We have two deputy offi ned to the program. Ms. Madrid:. A: This program doesn't work unless there' pa nership, a erybody has to work for the same goal. We've started progr over five t Riverside because of the lack of support from the ept. inly becaus changes in lieutenants or sergeants with new ideas. We n e Free wi out the Police Dept. because they have to respond to o calls, however, without that partnership, we don't get the ext ded benefits. Police Dept. cannot run this program without the managers. Public comment: '^ Q: I know smoking p our apart illeg t if I have a tenant who is an upstanding citizen and 2 chi en, and 's smoking pot in his apartment, is this somethin t woul rrant a 3- notice to vacate? Ms. Madrid: A: Yes, Mr odwin: A. roblem th ey h all the time is that these people will have their medica ijuana car So, ccording to California law, it would not be a crime if they're ca smoking their unit. Commissione d For Mr. Gifford: preciate your comments. To answer your question, 'What is this program goirj to do for me ?" you're going to get a lot of networking. We have four experts on the panel whom I've never met before which are an asset to my list of contacts. You'll gain your connections, so I encourage you to look at the program that Information /Communications Manager Dennis printed out for you which tells you what the program will offer: networking, connections, and support. I think you would be the model owner, so you might be there for someone else who is in trouble. For Mr. Ralph: To comment on the "click to enter" the gated community, I won't say you'll have priority with this program, but there are benefits out there, and you'll have Agenda Item No. 1 Public Safety Advisory Commission March 10, 2010 Page 10 of 17 his email, City Council, public safety, "click to enter' — but crime is crime and it doesn't matter if you're in the Crime Free program, it needs to be recorded, and you can take your issues further with the Crime Free program. For Ms. Madrid: In your 14 years of working in the Crime Free program, have you ever been in dire straits financially for someone committing crimes, or have you had any problems finding replacements for people you've had to evict? Ms. Madrid: Yes, I have such a variety of people that live in our prope The economy is bad right now, so I have lost some residents to the econom Commissioner Fairchild: For Mr. Goodwin: To add a loophole to what y ai about" edical marijuana, if it's a smoke -free complex, is that your to ole or smokin if they have a medical marijuana card? Mr. Goodwin: That's a good question and I don't know that th s a hard and fast answer. It's akin to the "no pet" rule and t ou having s ne imply that they have a "service animal" and it's not consi et." But o her hand, if there's "no smoking" allowed whatsoever, I'm n might b ay with that, but I don't think that's something that is settled Commissioner F Are these types uestio at some perty owners /managers can come to you and ask ?' Mr. Goo Yes, I ques a th II the time. M id: The fe subsidized grams, like section 8, don't acknowledge those cards, so you can't federall ubsidized housing with a medical marijuana card, so that's one incentiv' . one s brought up this issue, and I have yet to receive a request for reasonable odation but I'm anticipating that it's coming soon because we're getting so y on the section 8 program that are being terminated for that, but we haven't g en a tenant in a non - subsidized program requesting a reasonable accommodation to have a medical marijuana card, but I have heard of it, especially in Orange County and San Diego. Commissioner Fairchild: That's very good input. As an answer to Mr. Gifford, these are the kinds of things that you'll receive from the program. All these people with all this knowledge is very helpful. Agenda Item No. 1 `"Now Public Safety Advisory Commission March 10, 2010 Page 11 of 17 �— Commissioner Stewart: We're still evolving with our draft for the program, and tonight the input that we've received from the property owners /managers will be part of the evolution of our draft. With the kinds of things that we've seen happening in our City this past week, maybe having this Crime Free program could have an effect on preventing this type of crime from happening in our City. We're starting here with a small group but it can evolve into something very major in our City. I'm encouraged to hear about the different proble you've had when you had this program before, but hopefully we can learn fro and that you stay involved. We have an incredible Web site now that m s it become public record. When you contact Code Enforcement thru the We ecomes public record. It's an email, and you can show that you have tri to d ething and it hasn't happened, as opposed to just a verbal convey here y n't remember the person's name. I invite you to continue to s wit us and wit this information and great people, that's a great start. If hing else, we've alre you guys hooked up, and this can evolve into som reat. puty Liebra nd his team are very committed. Since I've been involve er` everything e've taken to the City Council pass. We have community out meetings in different areas, so please get involved and work wit Chairman Norkin: For Information /Communications M er �` g ,. uld it be inappropriate to invite Mr. Gifford or M rd to sit in the mmittee? What I'm gathering is that we're lacki tive of the roperty ners /managers themselves, as well as Code ceme That wa we'll have a document that completely encompasses ve g th the commu needs. The question by Mr. Gifford, 'What's in it for yo ues ' , and that is where you can make a differenc yo Id et. You've already done it right on your prope and n s p and help the property owners around you, and ho Ily you'll be a to some change. Those 68 other people that u o tely aren't h oesn can that they won't be here at future meetings. Ms. War Q: Can we s out t ese people who didn't show what can be accomplished in order to encou to be involved? Chairman Norkiry: A: Absolutely, all the notes that we're taking right now will go back to our subcommittee and hopefully, we can this information out via the mail or Web site. We've been going to different communities and having outreach meetings; and we've been in Tuscany Hills, in Canyon Hills, and we're going to Rosetta Canyon and we're going to ask what's going on in your community. We say that our City doesn't have any money. Why? People don't want to come to Lake Elsinore because we have blighted property and we've got crime. We can start by cleaning up the blighted property and bringing in new business, and suddenly people want to Agenda Item No. 1 Public Safety Advisory Commission March 10, 2010 Page 12 of 17 live here and be proud of where we live. I don't know where the program was before, but these individuals have been working for the last six months to get to this point, and want to see this program succeed. So we have to get involved and continue at it, otherwise it will get worse and worse. The City needs to help and I try to do whatever I can to help, but we need all of you to say you'll join us and help get the job done. I hope you don't give up because this City has so much potential, and I believe it will double in size and become even better than Murrieta and Temecula will ever be. It will take time to get there. Ms. Madrid I would like to extend an invitation to everyone that will be having a Phase 1 class in April so if you're interested in attending, yo ' me to come. It's an 8- hour class and you'll really get the background the Free and you'll be certified and I'm sure that Lake Elsinore will ac certific There being no comments, Chairman Nor ' ailed f a motion. MOTION was made by Chairman Norkin and Commiss' ner Stewart to receive public comments and questions relate a proposed Crime Free Multi - Housing Program. AYES: CHAIRMAN NOR VICE -CHAIR DAIL CO TONER C GS C NER FAI HILD % ow MIS ER STE RT jt NOES: NO 4. Crime a "Mu kko i nq kcommiffee Next Steps o 'on /Commu bons anager Dennis will take all the requests and make them tr to into acti Wi the first step being communication, on our Web site you'll see` ction cal Community Life and Outreach. I will build a Web page with this m so t well have a full summary of our dialogue here —the meeting minut they're approved and backup materials —and I think it's an excellent idea to follow -up mailing to those who missed it, to let them know that they're really goi to need to be involved. Communication leads to the continuing work of the support we need and open up the subcommittee to a task force to get that message across to the City Council that we can afford not to do this program. Commissioner Stewart: Can we bring in a property owner /manager as a guest to our subcommittee meetings? Agenda Item No. 1 1"4w Public Safety Advisory Commission March 10, 2010 Page 13 of 17 Information /Communications Manager Dennis I think workshop formats are sometimes the most effective way to bring people in. The subcommittee meets on Friday mornings at 7:30 a.m. which is convenient for the members, but a workshop could be more accommodating to bring more people in. Commissioner Fairchild I would like to recommend that Code Enforcement will be th e. Chairman Norkin Can a Code Enforcement aspect be included in this nance, or is it out of the scope of Crime Free? Information /Communications Manager De s Earlier it was commented about the priont of Cod Enforcemen , on't want to overlook a program called the Neigh Enha ment Team T) program which Code Enforcement originated several g . It's a pl nned program sweep which announces to that community that 're coming thru and gives them time to get things cleaned up re Code En f ent gets there and issues citations. Chairman Norkin' My concern is that areas hav rgro rubbery and we worry about wildfires burning in lar area the City d up in the Ortegas. One of the things that I've befo that if Co Enforcement follows the street sweepers going up and o e st is every d . atching for people who are illegally parked, there's no r En cement, in my opinion, can't see these dilapidat - ies o s about it. They're out there already and we're askm to ything extra. If we have issues that are as bad and as ous as you' intin us, I would like to see the City Council make an e o ave them s and p t out specific violations and you have ten days to clean it 1 think pe wo d be more responsive to that rather than receiving a general le and 1 thi this is the best way to utilize Code Enforcement officers' time while th out t e. Vice -Chair Daile Rather than havi . g a workshop because it's very difficult for people to come out in the evening, perhaps we could consider putting together a survey where these owners /managers can express their interest to us —what kinds of crimes are they facing, what are their issues with Crime Free housing, and would they be interested in participating in future workshops. It's important that we word it in a way that they feel connected to it, and it's more personal, telling them that we know there are issues and that we need their help, and without their help we're not going to be successful. I definitely think this needs to be a partnership where the property owners /managers notify the City, and the City taking those steps to solve those Agenda Item No. 1 Public Safety Advisory Commission March 10, 2010 Page 14 of 17 problems, and make it known to them that it's a priority with us to clean up those areas. I would like to make a recommendation to the subcommittee that our plan moving forward to the City Council must include something about Code Enforcement *mow as part of our ordinance and not two separate things. (There was an inaudible public comment about instituting some kind of a fee structure as an incentive —$'I a door or $10 a door, etc.) Vice -Chair Dailey We talked about possibly reducing license fees or elimin em altogether as an incentive for participating in the program. I think that w be a good idea to let the owners /managers know what incentives there are, t are the costs to them versus the benefits. I don't think there are much sts a ated to them, I think this will be free classes, free training, free in i s. Th y costs would be whatever the inspectors recommend, but u ' atel we're says at the City will fund that and will support you. Are there other ' centives tha r ities have been successful with? Ms. Madrid The City of Riverside has provid a Knox box I o that the officers could get into the gates. They haven't done in the wa . ances. We try to push the owners /managers licensed and a have d owner or manager, we can go thru the process of having th lice hat they can't own or work in the City of Riversi a City of ?gas as done that with their Crime Free program and ' ed really II in gett' g the bad out of the city. There are several Cri ree p ms in the nited States that are strictly run by Code Enforcement. e p ered with 11 specific Code Enforcement officer in Riverside that helpe a ram for a while, and it was beneficial because kno pro a owners /managers and the officers one - on -on ISO, cers ned to the program are usually on for 2 -3 years, so YO ht want to hat d, because one of our issues is that we get used to a Free coos or an years he's gone and we lose our rapport. We got to kee n Start fo bou 12 years, and it was awesome because he knew everybod everythi Chairman Nor Just in my short being on PSAC, Sgt. Rose is the 4 representative from the Police Dept. be use the County provides the sheriffs and moves them around, whereas our Code Enforcement officers are city employees, and I believe most of them have been around a long time. The Code Enforcement officers know the City like the back of their hand and they're the ones who we could turn to because they're here and they can respond. Ms. Madrid The City of Hemet has a Code Enforcement officer named Brent Cain who is their Crime Free coordinator. Agenda Item No. 1 `M"' Public Safety Advisory Commission March 10, 2010 Page 15 of 17 MOTION was made by Commissioner Stewart and seconded by Commissioner Vice -Chair to discuss next steps and provide direction to the subcommittee. AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN VICE -CHAIR DAILEY COMMISSIONER CUMMINGS COMMISSIONER FAIRCHILD COMMISSIONER STEWART NOES: NONE PUBLIC SAFETY SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS Chairman Norkin reported that the Citizens trol ubcommitt d a meeting to discuss a program enabling the volunt in th City to be uniformed volunteer patrol to have more visibility olice on the stre , to help the police officers and sheriffs in whatever way t 'th the dec ing revenues, this will help augment our Sheriffs Dept. and Dept. The City of Temecula, City of Murrieta, and surrounding s already hav program in place. We have a field trip scheduled to Temecul we will me sergeant in charge, as well as some of their volunteers, ab t began what they do to support it. There are challenges, such as bu t a c erns, that we will face. Commissioner C ommente' that the izens are the eyes and ears of the community, t is a ership no after how you look at it. It's an extension of a Neighbor oo tch, 'nd hopefull h the Crime Free program and the Citizens Patrol, we c r t fer c munity. It will take some time. I have the Poli d C Eno' on speed dial on my cell phone, because there a to gs on, and if you don't call us, we don't know. So I en age you tha u ha blem, don't hesitate to call the Police Dept. and C rcement. CITY STAFF" MENTS)" Public Works ity Engineer Seumalo followed up on Commissioner Cummings' commen the Palomar dim light radius, we are within the 30 -mile radius which allows for higF = pressure sodium on commercial lots and arterial streets, but local streets and parks are required to have low- pressure sodium. Mr. Seumalo reported that the McVicker Park striping has been completed, and a follow -up to that is to do an updated speed study and then post the speed limits. On the topic of speed limit signs, Mr. Seumalo spoke to the traffic engineer about the installation of additional speed limit signs on Lake Street, and they wanted to coordinate with Castle & Cooke to insure that they didn't have more construction, because right now there's the 35 mph construction signs. They are done so the signs have been ordered and will be installed in the next couple of weeks. There was a glitch as far as consultants for traffic operations, but that Agenda Item No. 1 Public Safety Advisory Commission March 10, 2010 Page 16 of 17 has been cleared that up so a study has been ordered for the Franklin and Main Streets intersection. Mr. Seumalo reported that because it's Main Street and downtown, signal lights are a very sensitive issue there, so the studies will reflect both a search thru the stop warrants and signal warrants to see what is needed at that intersection. Regarding the red light program, Mr. Seumalo reported that the vendor that was solicited to install the red light program has opted out of it. He reported regarding the Grand and Macy signal, that paving projects are taking precedence, but he believes there will be some funding available after these projects are completed. With regards to the Lake Street vendor, Mr. Seumalo kt he spoke with Code Enforcement to act on it, however, the vendors are re, so he will talk to the Community Development Director about it. Chairman Norkin asked Assistant City Attorn if t covered by the panhandling and no loitering on freeway on and ram s ordinanc Assistant City Attorney Mann replied that i nc endors. PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSIONER'S MENTS Information /Communications Man nnis remi eryone that the next outreach meeting will be for the Rosett C mmuni Earl Warren Elementary on Wednesday, April 7 6:00 p.m., an the on Park Dedication will be held on Saturday, April 1 to 10:00 a.m. Commissioner Cu 'ngs a Assistan ity Attorney Mann what the status is on the squatters. Assistant ey rep he didn't know the answer but would be happy to out. Com i er Stewa gges getting everyone's business cards for future reference. Commissioner hild pressed her gratitude for everyone's attendance. Vice Chair Dailey a thanked everyone for coming out and providing great insight, and she thanked blic Works Director /City Engineer Seumalo for the striping on McVicker. She commented about the barriers on Lake Street and could be a safety issue because it's not alerted to, and some people have hit it. Public Works Director /City Engineer Seumalo responded that they will put an object marker there. Chairman Norkin mentioned that the Fire Stations are running out of funds for educating elementary students on how to dial 911 and there are two schools left that Agenda Item No. 1 `� Public Safety Advisory Commission March 10, 2010 Page 17 of 17 currently will not get that same education. Can the City research into getting more funds to provide for that. With boating season coming up, we'll have to revisit our safety issues either in April or May, so if we can get Lake & Aquatics Director Kilroy on the April agenda, that would be perfect. Mr. Norkin thanked everyone for coming. ADJOURNMENT It was the consensus of the Commission to adjourn to a regular meeting on May 14, 2010, at 6:00 p.m. in the Cultural Center located at 183 rth Main Street, Lake Elsinore, California, CA, 92530. Chairman Norkin adjourned the meeting at 8:20 p.m. MIKE NO HAIR N PUBLIC SAFE Y COMM1 ION RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED: r MARLENE S. PALT ADMINISTRATIV A TAN Agenda Item No. 1 .- • E N ■ �� y E O n E o C) s e U *mo ------- - - - t� W � k '2 k �5 5 0 't (0 N 0 N LO CU O o O .._ M V c°v .� 4mi o 0) .� Q V LL � 0 Z o : m o C. co n .-. 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