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REPORT TO PLANNING COMMISSION
TO: HONORABLE CHAIRMAN
AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
FROM: KRISTINE HERRINGTON
OFFICE SPECIALIST
DATE: JUNE 5, 2012
SUBJECT: APPROVAL OF MINUTE(S)
Recommendation
It is recommended that the Planning Commission approve the Minutes as
submitted.
a. May 1, 2012
b. May 15, 2012
Prepared by: Kristine Herrington`
Office Specialist
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Approved by: Warren Morelion, AICP
Acting Director of Community Development
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CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING
MINUTES OF MAY 1, 2012
CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Jordan called the meeting to order at 6:05 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Blake led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chairperson Jordan
Vice Chairperson O'Neal
Commissioner Blake
Commissioner Gonzales
Commissioner Morsch
Absent: None
Also present: Acting Community
Director Seumalo, City Attorney
Office Specialist Herrington:
Public Works
MacHott, and
None.
1.
a. Mari
b. April
Recommendation: Approval
Motion by Vice Chairperson O'Neal, seconded by Chairperson Jordan, to
approve the Planning Commission Minutes of March 20, 2012 and April 3, 2012;
Motion passed by 5-0 vote.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEM(S)
2. Zone Code Amendment No. 2012-01 -A request to amend portions of
Chapters 17.08, 17.20, 17.104 and 17.128 of the lake Elsinore Municipal
Code to implement Residential Boat Dock Standards.
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City of Lake Elsinore
Planning Commission Regular Meeting
Minutes of May 1, 2012
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Recommendation:
Adopt a resolution recommending that the City Council of the City of Lake
Elsinore approve Zone Code Amendment No. 2012-01.
Acting Director of Community Development Morelion presented the Staff Report.
Vice Chairperson O'Neal asked if someone owns property on the Lake are they
permitted to build a boat dock without owning a home or any other structure on
the property. Director Morelion stated yes.
REQUESTS TO SPEAK
Tim Fleming, resident in Lake Elsinore, stated that`he ism" osed to the Draft
Ordinance and that it is not what the City's residentsant oi1e shoreline of the
lake. He stated that he has a copy of the City's"'Codes and Ordinances dated
2004, and indicated that unless those Codes and Ordinances ace In oned,
the City cannot move forward with the cur~e~Rt
prop ed Ordin ance e noted
that his main goal is to protect the properties afon Lakeshore" Drive from
Manning Street to the Seaport Launch.
Ben Butterfield, resident in Lakeland,Village asked'if ,#he Commissioners have
been educated regarding the regulations1 the Ordtriance. Commissioner
Morsch stated that he was a member of teo k Standards Committee
that reviewed the Ord~ftpe. Mr. Butterfield as how the Commission can
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make a decision re . r ing`s-mething that they dorl t understand.
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Chairperson Jordan stated, hat the Commissioners received the pertinent
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information regarding the A anc prior- to the Planning Commission meeting
and she did revie# all reVk*,and ed"O' to herself regarding all information.
Pay1 Caastaguo, residentzpf Lall/ d'sinore, stated that he had concerns regarding
Item No~,4, 20, 21,E"~ and' 51 within the "Draft Standards for Residential
Private Doeks".
Mr. Castaguo stafo to /@some of the items are safety issues.
Kim Cousins, Lake'Elsinore Valley Chamber of Commerce, stated that he had
issues concerning the anchoring of the docks when the elevation changes in the
Lake. He asked if County of Riverside's Ordinance coordinates with the City's
Standards. His concern is that both sides of the Lake have the same Standards.
Craig Sargent-Beach, resident in Lakeland Village, recommended the following:
• Dock permit fees need to be specified more clearly.
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Planning Commission Regular Meeting
Minutes of May 1, 2012
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• Change the wording on Item No. 41 and replace with "a roll-in type dock is
a portable dock that is supported above the waterline on wheels that rest
on the lake bed"
• Item No. 20 wording be revised regarding lake elevation
• Review the width and length requirements of boat docks
• That the residents choose which insurance to use
Commissioner Morsch stated that the dock fees are explained on page 10 of the
"Application for Residential Private Dock Permit" form.
Mr. Fleming stated that he has a copy of the Lake Elslnd?6 State Recreational
Area General Plan from 1984 which states the pitfall%#& having docks on the
edge of the Lake but he indicated that he supports roll=m docks.
James Lee, resident of Lakeland Village, askQf f}e Courts f Riverside was
involved with the "Boat Dock Standardsw-doc&nent A I Director of
Community Development Morelion stated the C K my was co, 0c ,ed,,>but they
stated that since the Lake has very few boa ~cksj ,ey were not Interested in
getting involved. Mr. Lee requested clarlficatio t1,1 ether to contact the City or
the County regarding boat dock fees since resident in the Count
he Is, y.
Attorney Leibold explained that the State quitclaimed ~t Lake to the City of Lake
Elsinore and the City is charged with protecting and~~Q oting the health and
safety of the Lake. While, the City doesn t e"'efcise lan se regulatory authority
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over properties outside of its territorial fun!dit~I I icated that as soon as
someone puts some aye the Lake,`~t1~a City i harged with ensuring Lake
safety and prote its T~creational 'purposes. The City is exercising its
regulatory author't~ publicafety throu, ty,e Boat Dock Standards.
Cathy Lubby County of Rlersltle r ~dnt, stated that she has issues with the
require d~psurance~'a d req sted that Cie item be continued to give the residents
that Ilve in the Coun he op°'p~p }Ini to get representation from the County.
Sandra S nette, resld~,in Lafkeland Village, stated that she is opposed to the
permit feel jai that the'~ounty residents need representation. She wanted to
know why th ~ity hasyjurisdiction over the residents in the Lakeland Village
area.
City Attorney Leibold stated that the item presented to the Planning Commission
this evening is to amend certain provisions of the City's Zoning Ordinance
(Chapter 17 of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code) to achieve consistency in the
land use regulations of boat docks for properties located within the City. Chapter
17 does not apply to the properties outside of the City. including those
unincorporated properties in Lakeland Village. The proposed Boat Dock
Standards will be considered by the City Council, and those Standards will be
incorporated in Chapter 15 of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code which will apply
to and regulate all boat docks in the Lake. She also noted that the City is
proposing uniformity and consistency with the health and safety standards to
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Planning Commission Regular Meeting
Minutes of May 1, 2012
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protect the integrity and recreational purposes on the Lake. She also noted that
the Planning Commission does not exercise jurisdiction over the "Boat Dock
Standards", it is a Legislative decision that will be presented to the City Council.
Vice Chairperson O'Neal recommended that this item be continued so that staff
can resolve various issues before going to City Council.
Commissioner Morsch asked Director Morelion if the property owners
surrounding the Lake in the City and the unincorporated areas of the County
were notified of the Public Hearing. Director Morelion stated yes. Commissioner
Morsch thanked staff that worked on the "Boat Dock Standards" and stated there
have been meetings regarding the "Boat Dock Standards" and mentioned that
many of the residents that spoke at these meetings) Ilue in the unincorporated
areas, so they did get notified of the Public Hearings`
Commissioner Morsch asked City Attorney
the issue of insurance and if the City ha
property owners indemnify the City againsf
that the questions and concerns that
investigation. She suggested that stall
alternatives.
Commissioner Morsch addressed c
decision to require roll-in docks as of
anchorage system re,p ent, retr
1255 foot elevation RI FIN o~iock re
Chairperson Jordan eked h ow the
three days tg p air a 66at dock C,9
three da sasr~adequate ;ffpe to rej
time than extenslon;can oe;fited w
eboTdr how the 0%
,should handle
to be,additionally insured or can
~ility. C y Attorney Lerb`old stated
159& raised justify further
36cgmmittee look into possible
Ps that e raised such as the
t ~ ~fjhg docs, the standardized
~cks chorage of the poles, the
, etc.
:)m fn ttee decided to set a maximum of
pssioner Morsch stated that they thought
Va boat dock, and if that wasn't enough
the City.
Ronald Casner, residen f Lakeland Village, stated that he doesn't agree with
the 1255 fo0t,..outflow c~nnel, and indicated that it is 1267 feet per the Army
Corp of Engirt rs. Director of Public Works Seumalo stated that the high point
of the outflow cfghnel 1 1255 feet.
Bill Savos, resided of Lakeland Village, stated that he agreed with the City's
statement regarding 1255 feet.
Commissioner Morsch stated that the "Boat Dock Standards" Sub-Committee
met seven times since September 2011 to review every element of the
Standards, keeping the public interests in mind.
Commissioner Gonzales stated that he was having trouble figuring out the fees
and requested that the issues get resolved before it goes to City Council.
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City of Lake Elsinore
Planning Commission Regular Meeting
Minutes of May 1, 2012
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Commissioner Blake stated that he appreciates Director Kilroy's expertise and
knowledge of the Lake and asked him to discuss the "Boat Dock Standards"
process. Director Kilroy discussed the Standards and explained the fees. He
stated that he thought the document is very reasonable and finds the middle
ground. He suggested that those that request an exemption to the Standards
can apply for a CUP to present to the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Blake asked Director Seumalo to address the flood issues around
the Lake. Director Seumalo discussed the Lake's capacity issue. Commissioner
Blake asked Director Kilroy to discuss the difference between the concrete
footing anchorage and the piling anchorage. Director Kilroy~)`eplained each.
Chairperson Jordan asked what the dimensions are,,,,o Nipillar poles. Director
Kilroy stated that the "Draft Boat Dock Standards o n tpermit permanently
fixed anchor poles, and would need to go throggh da,CUP process. Chairperson
Jordan asked why residents are required to '.have a year arot{r~d permit for a
dock. Director Kilroy stated that the City inspects th~docks once` a"year to make
sure that everything is still in compliance, no ' a dilapidated state and to
confirm that residents apply for a new permit a ~ .
hy the
City is requiring
Chairperson Jordan asked DlrectctrKilroy to expy Nh
additional insurance. Director Kpy~sated that ~ggested State Farm
Insurance because Its a local insucb any Lake and if residents
have a dwelling on their property, It ,well ~9, t k ffi a dttional $10.00 to get the
insurance required byHt "boat Dock Standards
Chairperson Jordsked Why a property owner is the only one that can apply
for a dock permit, ar~~ot a contractor or;:ah owner's representative. Director
erty owner is also the owner of the
Kilroy stated at it Is o1rassure #ha 1t, e,prop
F•r
dock Commisslo' Morse stated t~ibt the application for the building and the
annual~,pbrmit woufd,be.frorii ffae_owner.
ChairpefSmp Jordan askbd whr," a maximum of four boat slips per dock are
allowed anc;; w did theggCommittee come up with that number. Director Kilroy
stated that the current annual Boat Lake Use Permit that can be purchased by a
shoreline propert11, r allows up to four boats. Chairperson Jordan asked
about setbacks of_ docks. Director Kilroy explained that the Subcommittee
considered the set acks and indicated that there is sufficient room for the boats
to maneuver.
Chairperson Jordan asked if there is a maximum exceedance for platforms.
Director Kilroy indicated that the Dimensional Requirements for Property table
states 60 feet long and 8 feet wide which limits the square footage.
Chairperson Jordan
read Item No. 44 of the Draft Boat
Dock Standards that
states "All shoreline
property owners with
existing docks on Lake Elsinore are
required to obtain a
permit number from
the City within
ninety (90) days of
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Planning Commission Regular Meeting
Minutes of May 1, 2012
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adoption of these Standards for Residential Docks" and asked how the property
owners are notified. Director Kilroy stated that as soon as City Council adopts
the Standards, the City will mail a Notice to all shoreline property owners, will
reference the item and will have ninety (90) days to obtain a permit.
Chairperson Jordan reiterated that the Planning Commission is voting on the
"Ordinance", not the "Boat Dock Standards" and that the City Council will be
approving the "Boat Dock Standards".
Vice Chairperson O'Neal stated that there are other insurance companies to use
other than State Farm which was the suggested company 6,X the Subcommittee
and stated that naming the City for an additional insure IIII be'a problem. Also,
he asked if it is $300,000 aggregate or per occurrence ector Kilroy stated per
occurrence. City Attorney Leibold stated that the-cu =p t needs to specify.
Vice Chairperson O'Neal suggested raising the Insurance Iltt ttwhich isn't much
more.
Commissioner Blake asked what is being
should have been removed by the property
City will notify the property owner and will go
the abandoned>'docks that
"Director Kilroy stated the
an abatement process.
Vice Chairperson O'Neal thanked; :the..
Commission meeting, and indicated 8i-,,,
issues that the City's residents haveas
residents may have lfa tanning Coat
M
they are welcome _,I5 Wesiffill,9 the City
iing to the Planning
does try and address
s issues that County
to resolve the issues,
Ray Stanet, Lakela bI allagek resident, stated that there are several issues that
the residents
fo~6 save andggestetl co)npaitmentalizing them. He stated there
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was confusion' rding ~N}ten to apply for a CUP, and asked if this was the
Planni# ommlg 11o furietton to approve CUPs. Vice Chairperson O'Neal
stat x that all CUP Mme before the Planning Commission. City Attorney
LeiboI clarified when UPsi required. Mr. Stanet asked if the Standards
would be open for reviev and modification. Acting Director Morelion stated that
currently they re Dry Standards which are now open for review and
modification C6r mI I ner Morsch stated that while it is important to have the
public comment to Subcommittee has narrowed the document that they feel
consolidates all of;the views and draws a happy medium.
Mr. Stanet asked if there is an overlay on Lakeland Village by the General Plan
that affects the residents. Acting Director Morelion stated that there is no
lakeshore overlay in Lakeland Village.
Acting Director Morelion read the proposed Resolution recommending that the
City Council approve Zone Code Amendment No. 2012-01. It was moved by
Chairperson Jordon and seconded by Commissioner to approve the
proposed Resolution. A substitute motion was made by Vice Chairperson O'Neal
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and seconded by Commissioner Gonzales to continue the item to the June 5
Planning Commission meeting. Following procedural rules, Chairperson asked
for a vote on the substitute motion first. The motion to continue the item passed
by a vote of 3 to 2 with Vice Chairperson O'Neal and Commissioners Gonzales
and voting in favor and Chairperson Jordon and Commissioner
voting against.
WORKSHOP
3.
Planning Consultant MacHott presented the Staff
Commissioner Morsch requested that Plann
PowerPoint presentation to the Commissic
stated that he would do so.
Vice Chairperson O'Neal stated that he didn't`Ob I
Structures and noted that it was on the Gene
MacHott stated that he didn't list every structure di
were created and some of the Inforr6at an wasn't
City has notebooks which include man I s re:
lists, but that many of those structure o 1_
Iltant'4McHott E-Mail the
ning Consultant MacHott
fuse on the list of Historic
in. Planning Consultant
the fact that different lists
Irate. He noted that the
;were not on any historic
Ruth Atkins, mem4e(of the, Historic So'rety, stated that there are books that do
have Vice Chairperson O'Neal's house as as a Historic Structure but there are
gaps in some of~the books. Nis Atkins, Inaduced Joyce Hohenadl of Riverside
County Histop~ Commiss~onQ expert on guiding residents on how to
register trr% hb~s on aIStoric Its Ms. Atkins stated that in 1982 the City
Counc),a rapproved`a~ esolution for the formation of a Historic Commission but
wasrnot sure what happened eft~r that. She stated that she appreciated the
Commission s interest In the `historic criteria of the City's buildings and
emphasize1k at the HiOoj~ic Commission is on a volunteer basis only.
Ms. Hohenadl stated that an Ordinance was adopted by the City Council but was
not sure what hap~';ened after that and suggested having a Subcommittee to the
Planning CommisaGn (unpaid) to advise the Planning Commission about the
City's historic preservation.
The Commission thanked the Historical Society for attending the meeting.
Commissioner Morsch volunteered to be on the Committee.
Vice Chairperson O'Neal stated that he would like to see the Commission and
the Committee get involved in the inventory of historic structures and volunteered
to be on the Committee.
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Minutes of May 1, 2012
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Ms. Hohenadl stated that if the City has a Historic Committee then the City
should require Code Enforcement to be involved with identifying historic
properties and what should or should not be torn down or preserved.
Chairperson Jordan asked if the City has a Historic Preservation fund. City
Attorney Leibold stated no. Chairperson Jordan stated that she researched this
and suggested that the City look into various programs like the Mills Act to
implement an incentive program for residents that own historic homes and could
possibly get a tax break if their homes are registered.
Mr. Cousins stated that he would be happy to volunteer, e Committee and
suggested prioritizing the buildings. He also suggested id' of ing structures that
are a nuisance or non-repairable and disposing of those:structures.
Chairperson Jordan suggested that the City's Osimanee be u1id ted such as the
Historic Downtown Overlay District. Commissioner Morsch stat;that he would
E-Mail to the Commissioners the proposed~Ordinance of 1982 Gity,Attorney
ne
Leibold stated that the Ordinance was passryd but Was never Impl ffi%nted and
wasn't incorporated as part of the Municipal @o 'She suggested that the
Committee or an Ad Hoc Advisory Committee r~ arch what happened in 1982
and propose an updated rewslone Ordinance
Vice Chairperson O'Neal suggestedWmovingthls forwarnd placing an item on
the Agenda for June 5t'. All Commissoners agre
Planning Consultar "I'll M a t stated that he would forward a copy of the
Resolution that pprovd# in 1982, ahd a copy of the proposed Ordinance
that was included in~fe, Vick Knight Study tb the Planning Commission and the
City Clerk by E Mall or would"d, own' lopd .their onto the City's FTP site.
City Att~mey LeiboI stated fiat there will be a Planning Commission meeting to
be ,6k' on May 15« and the~Co "mission could place the Historic Preservation
discuss1l y, 4n that Agenda as a Business Item with a proposed action and
recommendetlon, includtI a tour of the Historical Society Museum. All the
Commissionersagreed wjth this suggestion.
4. Receive and File Underground Ordinances
Director Seumalo presented the Staff Report.
Chairperson Jordan stated that Viet Tran of Edison said that he would come to
the Planning Commission meeting and give a presentation. Commissioner
Morsch expressed his disappointment that Mr. Tran didn't come to the meeting
because he was suppose to provide the Commission with technical information
on the cost of undergrounding high voltage lines.
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Minutes of May 1, 2012
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Director Seumalo stated that when E-Mailing Mr. Tran, was informed that he was
on vacation and assumed that is why he didn't attend the meeting. Director
Seumalo addressed Commissioner Morsch's question regarding funding
underground powerlines and the cost of removing and relocating the City's trees
to do this.
Vice Chairperson O'Neal stated that trees need to be trimmed on Gunnerson
Avenue. Director Seumalo stated that he would follow up with staff regarding
this.
Mr. Fleming stated that he was submitting a document tc Commission from
the California Public Utilities Commission Energy Dh ision regarding
"Undergrounding" and referred to Section 35 Tree Trimrntng, dated February 12,
2000. He indicated that the document explains the rifles regarding tree trimming
and undergrounding. Also, he stated that povgerlUnes are to be installed
from Riverside, going through Lake Elsinore All A"ay to San go, and noted
that the City is suppose to receive fundmgpf'one mi lion dollars o ctete this.
He emphasized that it is use or lose fundings 31%
Vice Chairperson O'Neal asked about the
the powerlines. Director Seur*,, xpla
regarding this.
ulatory Authority regarding
qty's Regulatory Authority
Mr. Cousins discussed street repair
install FIOS and as4ed,,j City I
ROW h
Seumalo stated that,t'is Is~~,,encro<
Companies for reir' I-semet~~
'e ,done after Utility Companies
urse fof reimbursement. Director
and the City does go after the Utility
Improvement Update.
Planrnnc . nsultant M4 oft thanked the Commission for their interest in the
conservati in of the City istorical resources, and is looking forward to working
with them in e"lishing`some meaningful procedures for the City.
Acting Director M' tdibn stated that the City received four applications for the
Planning Commission's appointments and the interviews will be on May 15th.
Also, stated that Community Development has funding available for training
classes for the Commission and encouraged the Commissioner to attend.
CITY ATTORNEY'S COMMENTS
None.
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PLANNING COMMISSION COMMENTS
Commissioner Blake stated that it's exciting to see the community outpour for
wildlife habitat in the City and for the community to work together for the future.
Commissioner Morsch thanked staff for the help regarding the historic
preservation as well as all of the work they did on the Boat Dock Standards
Ordinance. He also stated that he was a participant in the Reality Rally in
Temecula with Mayor Tisdale, and City Clerk Bloom, representing the City of
Lake Elsinore and said it was fun and was a charity event for breast cancer
research.
Vice Chairperson O'Neal stated that his daughter was one of the finalists on
State Level National History Day and will be Miss Lake Elsipge this year.
.
Chairperson Jordan will not be at the June 5th,Pl`ammng Co ii -meeting.
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ADJOURNMENT M
There being no further business to come bbd the Planning Commission,
Chairperson Jordan adjourned the meeting at °9 5Q p.m. The next regular
meeting of the Planning Commission of the City of Lakes Elsinore will be held on
Tuesday, May 15, 2012, at 6:66"1", the Cul~ral Center located at
183 N. Main Street, Lake Elsinore, Caltforni4`.: • .11
Shelly Jordan
Chairperson
Attest:
unity
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