HomeMy WebLinkAbout04-03-2012 NAHCITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING
MINUTES OF APRIL 3, 2012
CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Jordan called the meeting to order at 6:05 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Gonzales led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chairperson Jordan
Vice Chairperson O'Neal
Commissioner Blake
Commissioner Gonzales
Commissioner Morsch
Absent: None
Also present: Acting Community Development Director Morelion, Public Works
Director Seumalo, City Attorney Leibold, Planning Consultant Coury, and Office
Specialist Herrington.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON AGENDIZED ITEMS - 3 MINUTES
None.
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM(S)
None.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEM(S)
1. Conditional Use Permit No. 2012-01 - A Request to allow outdoor dining
associated with the Moose Lodge Facility within the Seers Plaza
Commercial Center located at 32391 Riverside Drive, Suite 3, 6, 7 & 8
(APN: 379-090-021)
Recommendation:
It is recommended that the Planning Commission adopt a resolution and
approve Conditional Use Permit No. 2012-01 for the proposed "Outdoor
Dining at the Moose Lodge" based on the findings, exhibits, and
conditions of approval.
City of Lake Elsinore
Planning Commission Regular Meeting
Minutes of April 3, 2012
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Planning Consultant Coury presented the Staff Report.
The applicant, Richard Christie, Administrator for the Moose Lodge, addressed
Commission.
Commissioner Morsch asked if there was a requirement imposed by the City for
a barrier wall to be built between the Residential (R-1) zoning and the
Commercial zoning. Community Development Director Morelion stated that the
City does have this requirement and that there is an existing wall on the back
side of the Moose Lodge Facility. Mr. Christie stated that there is an 8 foot wall
along the southwest property line.
Vice Chairperson O'Neal asked Mr. Christie to explain what the Moose Lodge
does and their functions. Mr. Christie stated that there are 700 Moose Lodges
worldwide, including a few Corporate Facilities in the U.S. He stated that they do
charity work for underprivileged children and the elderly. They also do charity
Thanksgiving and Christmas dinners, as well as toy drives. Vice Chairperson
O'Neal asked how someone goes about becoming a member, and if there are
restrictions to becoming a member. Mr. Christie stated that anyone can become
a member and background checks are done. Vice Chairperson O'Neal stated
that he has heard that the Moose Lodge is racist and wanted to confirm that this
isn't happening in the City of Lake Elsinore. Mr. Christie stated that he hasn't
heard this, but indicated that it is not happening at the Moose Lodge in Lake
Elsinore. Vice Chairperson O'Neal stated that he does think the organization is
great and will approve this project.
Chairperson Jordan asked Public Works Director Seumalo to specify the
sidewalk and curb dimensions. Mr. Christie also specified the sidewalk and curb
dimensions.
Commissioner Blake asked if the fencing on the property will be replaced. Mr.
Christie stated that the existing fencing will be redone. Commissioner Blake
asked if the State allows outdoor smoking at a dining facility. City Attorney
Leibold stated yes. Commissioner Blake requested that the project be identified
as an outside dining area only and to exclude the smoking area reference. He
also referred to Condition No. 7 and asked if Conditional Use Permits that run
with the land are typical. City Attorney Leibold stated yes.
Alex Zubieta, resident of Lake Elsinore, stated that the City of Lake Elsinore does
not have a smoking rule, nor does the State. Further, he indicated that in the
event that the City adopts a measure against smoking, it should be taken care of
with approval of this Conditional Use Permit. City Attorney Leibold stated that in
the event that the City does adopt a Smoking Ordinance, it would be a Citywide
Ordinance.
Motion was made by Commissioner Blake, seconded by Vice Chairperson
O'Neal to approve Resolution No. 2012-18, a Resolution of the Planning
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Minutes of April 3, 2012
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Commission of the City of Lake Elsinore, California, approving Conditional Use
Permit No. 2012-01 to allow outdoor dining with the Moose Lodge located at
32391 Riverside Drive, Suites 3, 6, 7, & 8, and to include verbiage in the
Resolution consistent with the title of the Resolution, and strike reference to
smoking in the body of the resolution; Motion passed 5-0.
STAFF COMMENTS
Public Works Director Seumalo stated that the "Slope Repair' will be awarded at
the April 24th City Council meeting and the project should begin in May, once the
bonds and insurance are in place; the "Sumner & Heald Paving" project will begin
in a few weeks; and the "Sidewalk Repair" project was awarded at the March 27th
City Council meeting.
PLANNING COMMISSION COMMENTS
Commissioner Gonzales asked Director Seumalo if anything is being done about
the palm trees that are hanging over the street on Hunt Avenue. Director
Seumalo stated that he would speak to the City's Maintenance Superintendent
about this and follow up with Commissioner Gonzales.
Commissioner Blake stated that the City is doing a good job getting rid of graffiti
in a timely manner.
Commissioner Morsch asked about the status of Historic Structures to be
discussed at Planning Commission meeting. Interim Community Development
Director Morelion stated that it will be placed on the next Planning Commission
Agenda if Ruth Atkins of the Historic Society is available.
Vice Chairperson O'Neal stated that he knows of someone that is interested in
purchasing the Tire Shop across from Lakeshore Drive, but he stated that this
person is not confident with staff or the Planning Commission at this time. Vice
Chairperson O'Neal suggested that a Planning Commissioner be included with
staff for initial meetings and to work together to assure confidence for the
potential applicant.
There was a "Request to Speak" form turned into Chairperson Jordan by Mr.
Haroon Ali for a non agendized item.
Chairperson Jordan indicated to Mr. Ali that in the future, all "Request to Speak"
forms regarding public comments - non agendized items are to be turned into
the Commission prior to the Public Meeting.
Mr. Ali stated that he wanted to open a Hookah Bar on Casino Drive, and asked
the Planning Commission how they felt about this. Chairperson Jordan stated
that it would depend on if the use was permitted at the location. Mr. Ali stated
that he spoke to City Staff at the City Hall regarding opening a Hookah Bar in the
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Minutes of April 3, 2012
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City and was told that Hookah Bars are permittable per the City's guidelines but
an application needs to be submitted, and presented to the Planning Commission
for approval. Vice Chairperson O'Neal asked if Conditional Use Permits (CUPs)
are required for Hookha Bars. Director Morelion stated that a CUP is required for
a Hookah Bar and noted that Planning Staff spoke to Mr. Ali and indicated that
he needs to submit an application to the City. A Use Determination needs to be
done and he believes that it's an appropriate use in the District. Commissioner
Morsch suggested to Mr. Ali that if he is planning on opening a Hookah Bar,
suggested installing an air purifier for toxins in the air from the smoke.
Vice Chairperson O'Neal stated that he is happy to review the project that Mr. Ali
will be submitting.
Chairperson Jordan stated that she doesn't think that having a Hookah Bar in the
City will be a problem, and indicated that Hookah Bars have opened in other
City's with no problems. She stated to Mr. Ali that approval of the Hookah Bar
depends on a few factors, such as when it is presented to the Planning
Commission and who will be on the Commission at the time of submittal.
Mr. Ali stated that he has noticed a lot of vandalism near Don Joses, where he
would be opening the Hookah Bar and believes that being opened until 1:00 a.m.
or 2:00 a.m. would most likely hinder vandals and other criminal activity. City
Attorney Leibold stated that the Planning Commission cannot take an action on
this until an application is submitted and a Use Determination has been
completed, then the item would be placed on the Agenda for the Planning
Commission to consider.
Commissioner Blake asked what the status is for the mixed use zoning regarding
Hookah Bars. City Attorney Leibold stated that an item will be on the City
Council Agenda for the April 10th meeting and it will be discussed at that time.
Commissioner Blake indicated to Mr. Ali that the City is not necessarily opposed
to Hookah Bars in the City but they are looking at particular areas where it can be
approved and speak to the issues of commercial zoning.
CITY ATTORNEY'S COMMENTS
None.
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There being no further business to come before the Planning Commission,
Chairperson Jordan adjourned the meeting at 6:44 p.m. The next regular
meeting of the Planning Commission of the City of Lake Elsinore will be held on
Tuesday, April 17, 2012, at 6:00 p.m. at the Cultural Center located at
183 N. Main Street, Lake Elsinore, California.
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Shell Jordan
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Chairpers )
Attest:
Warren Morelion
Acting ; Community Development Director