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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 20, 2009
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Flores called the meeting to order at 6:00
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Vice -Chair Gonzales led the Pledge of Allegiance
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ROLL CALL
PRESENT: CHAIRMAN FLORES
VICE - CHAIRMAN GON
COMMISSIONER MENDO
COMMISSIONER O'NEAL
UNTIAIN
Also sent were: "o r19 Corr�c � y Development Director Weiner, Public Works
Dire ��y Engineer Seumalo, G'I Planner Miller, Associate Planner Carlson and
Office SpUbkialist Porche
None
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM(S)
1. Minutes
a. September 15, 2009
b. October 6, 2009
Agenda Item No.
Page 1 of 11
Recommendation: Approval
2.
Recommendation: Adopt a Resolution approving the proposed Minor Design
Review for the development of a 4,752 square -foot garage (accessory structure)
located at 32375 Ontario Way.
Vice -Chair Gonzales requested to pull Item No. 1 a for
Commissioner Zanelli requested to pull Item No.
lim
Vice -Chair Gonzales noted a correction to thekSeptember 15, 2009 Regular
Planning Commission Minutes or4ge 5 of 10 unde�fie Motion. It should read as
follows: ,
Motion was made by Commissioner Zarielli `andsdconded by Commissioner
Mendoza adopting Resolution No 200947, A tdving Reptile and Amphibian
Breeding Establishments as_,a Conditional Use within the limited manufacturing (M-
1) Zoning District and apprdving Conditional Use Permit No. 2009 -08 to include
modifications to tlid,ConditidM3 ofAurovalik,6y
ifizales and seconded by Commissioner
15, 2009 Regular Planning Commission
with the
YES: _11CHAIRIMAN FLORES
CE- CHAIRMAN GONZALES
OMMISSIONER MENDOZA
%COMMISSIONER ZANELLI
NONE
2. Minor Design Review for a proposed two (2) story, 4752 square -foot garage
(accessory structure) to be located in the rear -yard of an existing Single - Family
Residence at 32375 Ontario Way
Chairman Flores opened the Public Hearing at 6:11 p.m and requested the reading
of the Staff Report.
Agenda Item No.
Page 2 of 11
Associate Planner Carlson provided an overview of the project to the Commission in
Associate Planner Resendiz's absence. He stated the applicant is requesting
approval to construct a freestanding two -story 4,752 square -foot garage. He noted
the applicant will be using the garage primarily for storage and not housing. He
indicated the property is surrounded by residential uses and would fit with the
neighborhood character and is considered exempt from the California Environment
Quality Act. Staff recommends approving this project based on the findings, exhibits
and is subject to the Conditions of Approval. He stated the applicant is available to
answer any questions the Commission may have. sk?
Commissioner Zanelli asked Public Works
Condition No. 30 and why it is necessary.
Public Works Director /City Engineer Seun
street lights every 300 feet or at the end of
of Approval. ,A,
Commissioner Zanelli asked why this light
street was built.
Public Works Director /City En
history of why the light was not
Commissioner Zane 4 pquested the
Approval.
%a.
Chairman Flores reuested th`e applicant
Ted
plied; the City
e -sac and is a
at
Seumalo to clarify
Standards require
and Condition
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the time that the
:plied hat he does not have the
street """''constructed.
from the Conditions of
the podium.
himself to the Commission.
what he plans on storing.
Ted Thompson repliet�y sang he is a collector of cars and would like to have a
place tost6re the vehic
Commission en 0 a asked the applicant if he has any plans of running a
business out o r oposed garage.
Ted Thompson replied by saying no.
Vice -Chair Gonzales asked if there would be a shower or restroom.
Ted Thompson responded by saying he does not think it is needed at this time as
the main house is close enough.
Agenda Item No. f
Page 3 of 11
There being no further comments, Chairman Flores requested the reading of the
Resolution.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Zanelli and seconded by Commissioner
Mendoza to adopt Resolution No. 2009 -49, approving a Minor Design Review for a
proposed two (2) story, 4,752 square -foot garage (accessory structure) to be located
in the rear -yard of an existing single - family residence at 32375 Ontario Way (APN:
370 -511 -054) including the deletion of Condition No. 30 from the Conditions of
Approval.
AYES: CHAIRMAN FLORES
VICE - CHAIRMAN GC
COMMISSIONER ME
COMMISSIONER OT
COMMISSIONER Z&
NOES: NONE
PUBLIC HEARING ITEM(S)
3.
Recommendation: A a resolutio proving Residential Design Review No.
2006 -13 Amendm ofor 'Broadleaf & Silverthorne" project areas within the
Canyon Hills Spy is Plan.
Acting Community 11 �i�etat Director Weiner introduced City Planner Coury to
the Commissio and - h16 p provide the reading of the Staff Report.
CitYePlanner Couf ovidejn overview of the project to the Commission. He
irt� d the applic ropose�to amend approved Residential Design Review No.
2006 ,`m an effort toF, eet c Trent market conditions. He stated the proposal is to
replace`thj ,,.existing product known as 'Broadleaf with the "Silverthorne" product
within Planning Area 26%f the Canyon Hills Specific Plan. He noted the project was
reviewed by, Ian 1ng Commission on September 15, 2009 and was continued in
order to allow t dents more time to gather information concerning the project.
He indicated eic t (8) existing residents attended the meeting and expressed
concerns that the project request was smaller than what was previously approved for
the area. In addition, the residents felt that they were not properly notified or
informed of the product. He advised the Commission that Pardee Homes held a
neighborhood meeting on October 5` however inadvertently failed to notify the eight
residents who attended the Planning Commission meeting. He entered into the
record three (3) hand -outs including a letter that supports the project, a colored
rendition of the plot map, and a letter with signatures from residents in opposition to
Agenda Item No. '
Page 4 of 11
the project. He stated staff has reviewed the amendment and supports the project
and the applicant is available to answer any questions the Commission may have.
Chairman Flores requested the applicant to approach the podium.
Mike Taylor, Vice President for Pardee Homes introduced himself to the
Commission. He apologized for not notifying all of the community regarding the
neighborhood meeting. He stated he hand delivered the flyers regarding the
neighborhood meeting. Some of the flyers were placed orb th`e..garage doors and at
the front doors. �V
Stephanie Griffins, resident in Lake Elsinore spok op ion of the project. She
stated there is a difference between the two produ" s Bra' ", l af are higher end
homes and are found on larger lots. She state is a gre tom, ifference in the
square footage and price pre square foot.Sjae indicated this project „would have a
negative affect on the existing homes vat This isa master plan c4 and
would like to see the project denied. Sie Y�ted�el homeowners "at attended
the previous Planning Commission meeting a never "notified of the October 5,
2009 meeting. She stated she did receive the bic Hearing notice for tonight's
meeting. ,
William Smith, resident of Lake
stated the builder indicated they v
keep there promise.
in opposifion of the product. He
,L,pp community and will like to
Linda Butterw Sale presentati for Pardee Homes spoke in favor of the
project. She x - ed to a Cor ;sru that the last sale at the "Silverthorne"
closed at a higher v fo oney tan the homes at "Broadleaf.” She stated
Pardee are p ing �_,, =� %planned community and those who are
purc g s ar .'= re qualified that she has ever seen.
B ter, residen Lake nore stated he attended the last meeting when the
proje s continued) le in icated he spoke in opposition of the project at that
time because he was not notified of the public hearing. He has since been notified
and no longer;objects the project.
Elle Nimcheck5Ident of Lake Elsinore spoke in opposition of the project. He
spoke of the impb"rtance of notification and how there are better ways to notify a
homeowner.
Karen Bolger, resident of Lake Elsinore spoke in opposition of the project. She
stated she was never informed of the October 5` meeting. She stated she does not
feel that Pardee Homes is properly informing the existing residents of their meetings.
Mary Colley, resident of Lake Elsinore advised the Commission that she never
received any notice from Pardee Homes regarding the October 5 meeting. She
Agenda Item No.
Page 5 of 11
stated she did receive the public hearing notice. She noted for the record that the
sales office at the "Broadleaf' project are already telling their customers that the
"Broadleaf' product is no longer available and the "Silverthorne" product would be
available in February 2010.
Chairman Flores closed the Pubic Hearing at 6:47 p.m.
Vice -Chair Gonzales asked if the sales office has a record of the addresses once a
house has been sold. "A"
Mike Taylor stated he made an error and takes full
get notified of the meeting. He stated Pardee Homf
homes that are 1,655 square foot out of the fort y hi
area.y
Commissioner Mendoza asked why
Mike Taylor responded by saying Phase 3C
because they needed to make sure there was
stated they only improved a portion, the lots.
Commissioner Mendoza pointed c
purchased, a disclosure statement
change the product. W
orally when a home is
builder has the right to
Commissioner, eal as the applie nt what would replace the "Broadleaf'
product should end t not get aped.
Mike Taylor roplied bViftng ft4 COs 6uld remain as is.
Commissioner ONNOR states c nstruction may help stimulate the economy and
is in favor of the charjge as is not unreasonable. He advised the audience
should someone oblec #�to the4Planning Commission's decision, an appeal could be
filed which uvould then 9 before the City Council.
Commission &NI ne °stated he supports Pardee Homes with their changes. He
also made a c� �mFent regarding the disclosure statement that Pardee Homes
provides to all the'Fnew residents, which they are to sign. The disclosure statement
states the developer has the right to change the size, configuration and location of
unsold subdivisions, parcels, lots and common areas including but not limited to
streets, open space, landscaped areas and access facilities.
Chairman Flores asked the applicant if the larger units would be constructed near
the "Broadleaf' product.
iility that they did not
on building only four
are intended for that
up before
ad'ed all at the same time
dirt to balance the site. He
Agenda Item No.
Page 6of11
Mike Taylor replied by saying Pardee Homes has tried their best to have the larger
homes constructed near the "Broadleaf' product for better street scene.
Chairman Flores noted the applicant is requesting to replace only 40 out of 120
homes with the "Silverthorne" product. He asked the applicant what type of home
would be constructed on the additional lots.
Mike Taylor responded by saying it would be a new product that would be coming
back to the Planning Commission very shortly.
Commissioner Zanelli asked if there is a park
Mike Taylor replied by saying there is a la
within the center of the Canyon Hills Specific
Commission within the next couple of months;•
Chairman Flores asked the applicant if
Approval.
Mike Taylor responded by sayingyK ss."
MOTION was made by Commissic
to adopt Resolution No. 2009 -50,
the Multiple Species,Habf t Cons
AW.
ZANELLI
NOES:
y Vice -Chair Gonzales
project is exempt from
MOTION made UylCommissioner Mendoza and seconded by Commissioner
Zanelli to adopt, Resolution No. 2009 -51, approving Amendment No. 1 to Residential
Design Revie"p. 2996 -13.
AYES;''?- CHAIRMAN FLORES
VICE - CHAIRMAN GONZALES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER O'NEAL
COMMISSIONER ZANELLI
NOES: NONE
Chairman Flores requested a one minute recess at 7:09 p.m.
unit yrk that is proposed
would be ;coming before the
r
d_ accepts the ,,Conditions of
Agenda Item No. '
Page 7 of 11
Chairman Flores reconvened the meeting at 7:13 p.m.
BUSINESS ITEM(S)
4. Lake Elsinore Motocross Conditional Use Permit and Commercial Design Review
Application
Acting Community Development Director Weiner indicated this is a progress report
on the application status of the Lake Elsinore Motocross Conditional Use Permit and
Commercial Design Review application. He advised the qOm ission that this was a
status report only and therefore no discussion would I I he conditions or directly
related to the operation. a
City Planner Miller provided a brief timeline I
CUP has expired which is why the applican
stated the site plan needed very few revi;
Planning Commission for design review
available to answer any questions regarding
requested a nei
iowever should
status.
stated the last
plication. She
coming to the
aoolicant is
Chairman Flores requested the 4 nt to
Randy Hiner, owner /applicant for tt
the Commission. He stated he st
through many hand / / to recent
and is moving forvvrd!� %
oss introduced himself to
une 2005 and had gone
however is now on track
Vice -Chair Gonzales „askedIthe appl
r
location. ✓a�� �//G %tir��,r,,.,.
by fig "Yes.”
intends on staying in the same
//.on)y ;ssioner O'Nea)fstated hb spoke with staff regarding the environmental study.
He poi d out that th nvironmental study would not only protect the applicant but
the cirysW,ell.`
5
Comm issionerZanellvstated he is glad to see this project come to the end of the
road. He indica ed01 t would be great to see Lucas Oil come to town and hopes the
Commission will direct staff to move forward as quickly as possible in order to have
this project brought back for a public hearing at the earliest possible date.
Vice -Chair Gonzales asked when this project would be coming back to the
Commission for a public hearing.
Deputy City Attorney Winterswyk stated staff should have the California
Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) reviewed internally and have the public review
Agenda Item No.
Page 8 of 11
and comment period finalized and then return back to the Planning Commission as
early as possible.
Randy Hiner asked if there would be a way to have a twenty day review period.
Deputy City Attorney Winterswyk replied by saying staff would need to make a
determination as to whether or not the project is state or regional. She stated as
long as it is not, then yes a twenty day review period could be warranted.
Commissioner Zanelli pointed out this would not have
event that is currently scheduled for December with LL
already been approved. '
Vice -Chair Gonzales asked how long of a
Deputy City Attorney Winterswyk advised
Conditional Use Permit could be discusse
come up with a proposed time limit and that
STAFF COMMENTS
Public Works Director /City Engi
• He spoke of the gi
week.
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Acting Community`D
• He advised theo
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1
Com 1ss16 n Mee
Dept fCyty Attorney
• She thariked, the G
PLANNING COMtIIS:
Chairman Flores con
award
y impact on the special
Oil as that project has
indito - Use Permit be.
>n that �:,term of the
blic hearing. as staff will
n for discussion.
the following:
before City Council next
Director Weider commented on the following:
be bottled water for the next Planning
on the following:
for allowing her to intervene regarding the last project.
on the following:
• He addressed the importance of communication between the developers and
existing residents when new projects are being proposed. Acting Community
Development Director Weiner pointed out that staff did request Pardee Homes to do
a community outreach however they chose not to for the first meeting.
Agenda Item No.
Page 9 of 11
Vice - Chairman Gonzales commented on the following:
• No comments.
Commissioner Mendoza commented on the following:
• He asked the Public Works Director /City Engineer Seumalo how long would the
grading along La Strada continue. Public Works Director /City Engineer Seumalo
replied by saying there is no timeframe as there is a volume of dirt that they are to
move as part of their grading permit.
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' ���
• He stated.City Planner Coury did a good job with Pardo- 'Homes and dealing with
the public. 1 ,
Commissioner O'Neal commented on the
• No comments.
Commissioner Zanelli commented on the
• He thanked City Planner Miller, for all her wde , egarding the Lake Elsinore
Motocross project and appreciatesrtti"� effort s.
���
• He asked Public Works Director /C 3511 umalo'abot the Lake Street curve
and would the road be two or four 1I esa cep, r median. Public Works
Director /City Engineer Seumalo rep li b tel the road would be two
lanes with a center r _,),put not with,hs phases '
It was the consensM§bf the,00m mis§' h' to adjourn to the November 3, 2009,
Reg u1- 1 U,105 i�g g on me f�nng. at 6:00 p.m. located at 183 N. Main Street,
Flores adjourned the meeting at 7:47 p.m.
JIMMY FLORES, CHAIRMAN
PLANNING COMMISSION
Respectfully Submitted,
DANA PORCHE
OFFICE SPECIALIST III
Agenda Item No.
Page 10 of I I
ATTEST:
TOM WEINER
ACTING DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
Agenda Item No.
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