HomeMy WebLinkAboutItem No. 1aMINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 15, 2009
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Flores called the meeting to order at
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Vice -Chair Gonzales led the Pledge of
ROLL CALL
CHAIRMAN FLORES
VICE - CHAIRMAN GC
COMMISSIONER ME
Development Director Weiner, Public Works
Planner Harris, City Planning Consultant Coury,
None
PUBLIC HEARING ITEM(S)
Agenda Item No. I a
Page 1 of 10
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM(S)
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Recommendation:
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Chairman Flores opened the Public Hearing
Senior Planner Harris provided �,,. rief backgrounTa he project. He noted for the
record the Planning Division rec",V notice from" n mal Friends of the Valley
(LEAF) indicating they would conduct visits to estabfis bent twice a year.
Chairman Flores requested the applic' t tQ;appro 9e lie podium.
Mitchell Behm, olicafit% the project �troduced himself to the Commission and
agreed to the ons of�pproval set foh,in the Staff Report.
CommissiMendof�e'(�p��'pfirit if there would be any video surveillance
camere, , n �e . HeISo;rnenti staff that he would have like to have seen
MUM IL Behm stated : k e wou have exotic animals which would be locked up and
not pos y danger t,?I e public or themselves. He stated he could submit to the
Commis s he types, ref cages that would be installed on the premises. He is
looking fo o hav` =g Animal Friends of the Valley (LEAF) inspect the premises
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and intends to epatrol service and the use of an Internet camera.
Commissioner O'Neal asked staff about the inspections and the safety of the
animals.
Acting Community Development Director Weiner replied that LEAF would be making
unannounced inspections. He noted, should staff or LEAF receive a complaint, other
inspections may be necessary.
Agenda Item No. — 0-
Page 2 of 10
Establishment within an existing building located at 530 Third Street
Commissioner O'Neal asked when staff received comments from Riverside County
Fire Department (RCFD) with their approval.
Senior Planner Harris replied August 17, 2009.
Commissioner O'Neal did not understand the point on the fees set forth by RCFD.
Acting Community Development Director Weiner did not have a response to
Commissioner O'Neal's comments however encouraged theapplicant to work with
RCFD.
Mitchell Behm replied by saying that he was
Department has requested installation of a comple
Commissioner Zanelli asked the applicant
such as Pythons or Boa Constrictors and w.
Mitchell Behm replied by saying that they
and they do have an emergency plan should
Commissioner Zanelli Comm(
during the construction of the
applicant.
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are listed in the
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Mitchell
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hear that the Fire
system.
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fpn breeding:4 rge snakes
species gets loose.
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major expense to the
out to tgff and thCommission that rats and mice
)ointed�v t that they are mammals and not reptiles
ly.
that the rats and mice would be raised
irector Weiner suggested revising the Resolution
of breeding rats and mice.
if the animals are native to California /USA.
Mitchell BelifS' onded by saying he intends on breeding threatened and
endangered speei`e He stated he may breed animals from other countries.
Commissioner Gonzales asked if he would be willing to accept the purchased
animals back should the owner feel that they could no longer keep the animal.
Mitchell Behm replied he would welcome the animals back.
Chairman Flores asked the applicant if he has met with the RCFD, Health
Department, Department of Fish & Game or LEAF.
Agenda Item No. 1 0.
Page 3 of 10
Mitchell Behm replied by saying no, he has not yet met with any of the mentioned
departments.
Chairman Flores asked the applicant how many employees will be staffed and what
would the hours of operation be.
Mitchell Behm responded that he would have five to six employees in the building
and the hours would be from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. °`
Chairman Flores asked if there would be an area where the public could come in
and purchase the animals.
Mitchell Behm stated these facilities will not be open° the general public and the
facility is strictly a breeding center.
Chairman Flores asked if there is anything'Aft, taff could do regard in h`e required
sprinkler system. "M
Acting Community Development for Wei
, 'Urp ner p I t d out to the Commission that
the Conditions stated they must tl! of the guidel`estgted in the RCFD letter
dated September 15, 2009. He s fed "' >' the appliculd work with the Fire
Department to modify the Fire Deprtmequirem however the applicant
must meet all of the guidelines accords t9 t e cot ndence.
Commissioner Z '6IIi poi out to the�ommiss the requirement would be on
any business that occupied a building He stated until the building has sprinklers,
no one can occupy IV
a fire wall and requested the owner of the
to
IiAark" '' hop, repres ng th owner stated the building has been occupied in the
past b �> (4) differed enan s, and that fire sprinklers have never been an issue in
the past stated a ¢crete fire wall had been installed with a single opening roll
door approxtately t years ago when the building was constructed. The fire wall
was built in aGOrdae with the code requirements at that time. He stated the
is
building has been -- Vacant for about one year.
Commissioner Zanelli stated that there may been a communication issue with the
Fire Department. Cal Fire may operate under a different set of codes; however it
would be worth pursuing.
Chairman Flores closed the Public Hearing at 6:40 p.m. and requested a motion.
Agenda Item No. 1 0 1
Page 4 of 10
MOTION was made by Commissioner Zanelli and seconded by Commissioner
Mendoza to adopt Resolution No. 2009 -46 and adopt findings that the project is
consistent with the Multiple Species Habitat Conservation Plan (MSHCP).
AYES: CHAIRMAN FLORES
VICE - CHAIRMAN GONZALES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER O'NEAL
COMMISSIONER ZANELLI
NOES: NONE
MOTION was made by Commissioner ZanE
Mendoza adopting Resolution No. 2009 ` 7,
Breeding Establishments as a Condifiona`l
1) Zoning District and Approving Conditional
AYES: CHAIRMAN,LORES
VICE CHA a ANGC
COMMISSI'Q X 12 E
COMMISSI ER'O'
COMM ISSIOjmR ZA1
NOES:
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No. 2009-08. a
ity DeVopment Director Weiner introduced Kirt Coury the Planner
for the
Kirt Coury, PI "' "' or the project provided an outline of the project to the
Commission. He S ated this is an amendment to the project which was approved by
the Planning Commission in April 2007. The applicant is requesting to replace the
approved Broadleaf project lots with the approved Silverthorne product in the area.
He noted that staff recommends approval of the proposed project and would be
available to answer any questions the Commission may have.
Ron Nugroho, Pardee Homes stated for the record that he agrees with the
Conditions of Approval.
Agenda Item No. / 0,
Page 5 of 10
Chairman Flores requested any speakers to speak either for or against the project.
Mike Wagoner, resident of Lake Elsinore spoke in opposition of the project. He
stated that the homes that were proposed are smaller and less in value than the
homes that were promised. He stated that when he purchased his home the
developer indicated the homes that would be built in the area would be comparable
to the existing product, and these proposed products would have a negative impact
on the values of the existing homes. �,,
Bob Stoddard, resident of Lake Elsinore spoke in sition of the project and
recommended to have the item continued to another �b order for the developer
to notify every resident of the changes. He state thato \e �s not received any
notification of the changes that have been pro d >�nd state a does not trust
Pardee Homes. �.
William Smith, resident of Lake Elsinore'
stated that when he purchased his home he
the new homes would be built. He was told
would be building more Broadleaf product a
W1 < 1r
the current market value and asked'- - Plan
staff employee or a consultant for Per
Jae in r osition of th`e3 ", ject. He
� s map that showed where
r �! ales office that Pardee Homes
un 'r existing homes. He noted
ng Co lssion if Kirt Coury is a city
Commissioner O'Neal responded by
not work for Pardee/Affift,
a city employee and does
Commissionerr0m, %oz p " ed out to t'" a dience regardless if this project gets
approved or not, ea Id be proc ed in order for the project to be heard
by the City Counc
do
lore §rr �9esteT %fir Coury to provide an explanation to the audience why
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is bed'�recommendedfor amendment.
Planne v1 Coury st that Pardee Homes had indicated the proposed product
known aerthorne elling faster due to the current economy.
Ron Nugroho���enting Pardee Homes stated that the Silverthorne product is
within the price ra and demand of the general public during this slow economy.
Commissioner Mendoza asked Mr. Nugroho why the homeowners weren't notified of
the changes.
Ron Nugroho did not have an answer for Commissioner Mendoza.
Chairman Flores asked staff if it is a requirement for city staff to notify the
surrounding homeowners of the project.
Agenda Item No. I
Acting Community Development Director Weiner replied by saying there is a 300
foot radius requirement for notification. He stated that staff has retained a copy of
the labels of who was mailed a notice and would make that available for those who
are interested.
Planner Kirt Coury pointed out to the Commission that in addition for the notice to be
mailed to the homeowners within 300 feet radius of the pro ct, the notice is also
posted in front of the City Hall and in front of the project. ,.
Bob Stoddard, resident of Lake Elsinore stated the�}"I" r wants to change the
product to the current market conditions; however hespurch his home during the
downfall of the market. He asked the developerr," y #hey we of told then of the
changes that were being proposed at that time''
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Ron Nugroho, Pardee Homes responde' &b saying {�%ere were addit
which were made right after Mr. Stoddard pu�chasewl �bome in Mafand did not
have the available information at that time.
William Smith, resident of Lake Elsinore confirmed `fhgt Kirt Coury is an employee
of the City of Lake Elsinore. He por�t� ° d� _ hat the deW'elopar did not notify anyone
and just posted a sign in front of the projec . ,
Stephanie Griffis, rydnt of Laki ore statshe works in the escrow field
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and researched the property owner list, nd pointed out to the Commission that it
clearly states they are the?Iawners of th roperty. She included they have not
received any letters LI[I he Public H Wiring or the changes to the project. She
noted when they pur exFne they were told by the sales department that
they w,oufd not`bpuildi -jje menfibne`d'lots for a long time.
Community loprrftDrector Weiner recommended to the Commission
i p ue the item calen ar'in order to confirm who was notified of the Public
qi the proposed changes.
asked if there is another area that is known as Silverthorne.
Ron Nugroho replied by saying yes.
Commissioner O'Neal pointed out to the developer that he has requested new
homes to go "Green" with their homes and to have solar installed.
Planner Kirt Coury discussed the appeal process with the audience.
Chairman Flores requested a motion.
Agenda Item No.
Page 7 of 10
MOTION was made by Commissioner O'Neal and seconded by Commissioner
Mendoza to continue the project known as Residential Design Review No. 2006 -13,
Amendment No. 1 for "Broadleaf & Silverthorne" off calendar.
AYES: CHAIRMAN FLORES
VICE - CHAIRMAN GONZALES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER O'NEAL
COMMISSIONER ZANELLI
NOES: NONE
STAFF COMMENTS
Public Works Director /City Engineer Seumalo
• He spoke of the CIP known as the Machado
heard before the City Council at`4�" it
lowest bidder.
• He spoke of a phone call that he'
sewer installation and corrected his s
reclaimed water proleot He provided
the project and the` rojec�t� � now out f(
Acting Community
• No
meeting
on the
facility which will be
Id be awarded to the
�x r. Com�issioner Zanelli regarding
nt i is a sewer project and not a
Commi rn a map showing the area of
commented on the following:
on the following:
• No
Vice - Chairman Gorf;iales commented on the following:
• He asked the Acting Community Development Director the status of grey water
being used for irrigation. Acting Community Development Director Weiner
responded by saying EVMWD was not pursuing the use of grey water. Riverside
County is proceeding with the use of using grey water for irrigation purposes, but
locally the City's water district is opposed.
Agenda Item No. I C
Page 8 of 10
Commissioner Mendoza commented on the following:
• He requested staff to include as much information in the Commissioners Agenda
Packets as possible regarding projects.
Commissioner O'Neal commented on the following:
• No comments
Commissioner Zanelli commented on the following:
• He asked details of the road work being conducte(
Ranch. Public Works Director /City Engineerl
speak to the inspector and find out more inforrrratioi
• He asked the timeframe of the sewer pro that
the last meeting. Public Works Director / i ini
does not have a timeframe just yet as he is wa J)
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ADJOURNMENT
It was the consensus of the Commission"journ to
Planning Commission meeting at 6 0,0 ION
,€ated
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Elsinore, CA. 92530. f w �
Chairman Flores2krjourne"dhe meeting a,J 7:24 p.m.
rig Udk Street near Alberhill
replied RU he would
the Comma_,sjon.
e before the �mmission at
eumalo repliedit saying he
Dber 6, 2009, Regular
N. Main Street, Lake
JIMMY FLORES, CHAIRMAN
PLANNING COMMISSION
Respectfully
DANA PORCHE
OFFICE SPECIALIST III
Agenda Item No.
Page 9 of 10
ATTEST:
TOM WEINER
ACTING DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
Agenda Item No.
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