HomeMy WebLinkAboutItem No. 1aMINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, JUNE 16, 2009
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Zanelli called the meeting to order at 6:01
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Vice - Chairman Flores led the Pledge of
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
CHAIRMAN ZANELLI
VICE - CHAIRMAN FLI
COMMISSIONER GC
COMMISSIONER ME
COMMISSIONER OT
STAFF PRESENT
Also
Gerardo Cuadra,
purchased a new
of the correct proc
away.
Acting Community Development Director Weiner advised Mr. Cuadra that he could
discuss the matter with him in order to provide more information of the location in
question.
lopment Director Weiner, Deputy City
;ity Engineer Seumalo, Senior Planner
Planner Resendiz, and Office Specialist
nt of Lake Elsinore advised the Commission that he recently
in Lake Elsinore and requested the Commission to advise him
for installing a septic tank since the sewer line is over 670 feet
Agenda Item No._LQSi_
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CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM(S)
1. Minutes for the following Planning Commission Meeting
a. September 18, 2007
Recommendation: approval
A motion was made by Commissioner O'Neal and seconded by Commissioner
Mendoza to approve the September 18, 2007 Regular Planning Commission
Minutes.
The following vote resulted:
AYES: CHAIRMAN ZANELLI
VICE - CHAIRMAN FLI
COMMISSIONER GC
COMMISSIONERMI
COMMISSIONER OT
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
2.
a. Continue to a d6lAto be determined.
Chairman Zagel ope J rd the Public Hearing at 6:03 p.m.
Acting Community °'Development Director Weiner introduced Senior Planner Harris
who would provide the reading of the staff report to the Commission.
Senior Planner Harris provided a brief overview of the project to the Commission.
He indicated this project had been continued twice due to the applicant's request in
order to allow time for the engineering staff to evaluate street
improvement/requirements.
Chairman Zanelli requested the applicant to approach the podium.
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Erik Lunde, applicant for the project stated the purpose of the continuance request
is to allow time to work with staff on traffic updates. He requested having the project
heard to a date to be determined rather than taking it off calendar.
Chairman Zanelli requested any comments from the public. There being no further
comments, Chairman Zanelli brought the discussion back to the dais for
Commissioner Comments.
Commissioner O'Neal concurred with staff's recommendations and had no further
comments. A%,
Commissioner Gonzales had no comments.
Commissioner Mendoza concurred with staffs
comments.
Vice - Chairman Flores concurred to conti ",off cal
the future.
Deputy City Attorney Winterswyk spoke of the
indicated if the item would be continued without re
specific date specified. r . e
Erik Lunde suggested having the
and had no further
to an unspecified date in
re of the continuance. She
oticing then there must be a
A motion was madeitb�t � missione% onzales and seconded by Commissioner
O'Neal to conti u Tentat� Parcel Map 35336, and Tentative Tract Map No.
`a
35337, for thee� « Spy! ass Ra ch Specific Plans to the July 7, 2009 Regular Planning
Commission meeting
a w
h`
The follon uotU- esulte
AYES: CHAIR AN ZANELLI
' ICE- a'AIRMAN FLORES
OMMISSIONER GONZALES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
a COMMISSIONER O'NEAL
NOES.VN NONE
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
Agenda Item No. 10,
Page 3 of 13
3.
Lakeshore Drive
Chairman Zanelli opened the Public Hearing at 6:07 p.m.
Recommendations:
a. Adopt a resolution recommending Planning
Conditional Use Permit No. 2009 -01, and
b. Adopt a resolution recommending Planning Co
Design Review.
Acting Community Development Director
Coury who would be providing the Com
report.
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Planning Consultant Coury provided a be ����ef' veview
Nal
applicant is requesting a Conditional Use % t If
P � '
Review to enable a co- location of several new��tele
existing 81 -foot tall tower. He state the location is1
be designed as a Monopine facilit ate d the aj
a GPS antenna, a two (2) foot rri{ rto 47 ish on
cabinets which would match the surroundmg�enFmc
/ n r
the project, and the applicant is available,,to answer
may have.
Chairman Zanellirquestedle applicant
Monica Moretta, repres °sting R"y' i Street
agrees o e Cdh'd ions 1 ovaM
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ssi oner Gonza es had no�comments.
er
Comm istler Mendoz , ad no comments.
Vice- Chairmra lElores,fibd no comments.
Commissioner O'Neal had no comments.
Commissioner approval of
of a Minor
duce�sPlanning Consultant
a brieK ing of the staff
ie project He1indicated the
ddition to a Minor Design
nmumcation panels on an
Lakeshore Drive and would
antis proposing to include
7ucture and equipment
�e indicated staff supports
questions the Commission
the podium.
Communications, Inc. indicated that she
There being no comment Chairman Zanelli closed the Public Hearing at 6:11 p.m.
and requested a motion.
A motion was made by Vice - Chairman Flores, and seconded by Commissioner
Mendoza to adopt Resolution No. 2009 -39, approving Conditional Use Permit No.
2009 -01.
Agenda Item No. I C,
Page 4 of 13
The following vote resulted:
AYES: CHAIRMAN ZANELLI
VICE - CHAIRMAN FLORES
COMMISSIONER GONZALES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER O'NEAL
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
A motion was made by Commissioner
Gonzales to adopt Resolution No. 2009 -
design and construction of a co- locates
16401 Lakeshore Drive, Lake Elsinore.
The following vote resulted:
i1
d "
i seconded by Commissioner
a Minor Des,,'� i� Review for the
ienna tower f ility located at
suspended for a period of time (90 days0 which has since ended. He stated the
applicant is presently trying to get formal approval of the stage. He noted some
modified conditions in the staff report. Staff recommends approval of the project and
the applicant is available to answer any questions the Commission may have.
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Acting Community Development Director Weiner provided a brief background on the
project. He indicated the request is for a modification to an existing Conditional Use
Permit (CUP) to legalize a previously constructed 700 square foot elevated stage
that is located in the "Sports Bar" area of the facility. He indicated the CUP was
Chairman Zanelli requested any public speakers to speak in favor of the project.
Councilmember Hickman, representing himself as a resident spoke in favor of the
project. He suggested bringing the situation to closure and letting the owner conduct
his business. He addressed Condition No. 63 where it discusses private events
shall go no later than 3:00 a.m. nor begin before 8:00 a.m. Councilmember
Hickman noted the applicant has graduation parties at his facility and suggested
adding a stipulation in order to hold "Graduation Night." He also spoke of Condition
No. 64 which discusses noise disturbances arising from events occurring on the
Trevi property. He stated he has never heard of any loud disturbing noises coming
from the Trevi Lanes parking lot.
Matthew Ward, legal counsel representing the owner of2t0e Best Western Hotel
w as
adjacent to the Trevi Lanes property. He indicated he has re�jewed the Conditions
of Approval paying particularly attention to Corditoi No. 64 where it discusses the
mitigation of noise disturbances. He pointed out to the C =ission the
Memorandum dated January 20, 2009 from Captain Cleary outli q numerous
calls /actions taken since the business ope, d He tated his clie ts have lost
revenue from having to refund money to backkftstomers due to the$ oise coming
6ysili ;
from the entertainment center. He questioned onways to mitigate issues and feels
there is a lack of communication¢bN yveen the owne of the entertainment center and
the hotel manager. He stated theo�t n hasmade several attempts to
contact the entertainment manag noise,gut could not reach him.
Mr. Ward indicated that he sent a certified letter to project owner advising them
that they would provid t their cost a sound�echnician to conduct a study
to determine the d 4Jibe ��Uels that the -o nd syste s are generating and see how
it would impact b ed upo; :e distance between the two businesses. He indicated
that as of toda =e as no <eceived any sponse from the owner. He asked the
Commission if add! ill . l cc 'ti ns were g g to be discussed at the meeting.
�muhItykDevel4 -' ent DireLtor Weiner replied by saying at the Hearing
suspens�o vva ®cons i dered, there were new conditions that were
He sta flat that e consideration of the new conditions was put on
e item retd to the Commission.
Matthew Ward, continued by saying it is his understanding that CEQA does contain
provisions toy )nm m ental impacts involving noise. He stated his clients are in
the audience to er any questions that the Commission may have.
Deputy City Attorney Winterswyk commented by saying, staff is looking into any
CEQA issues the project may have.
Michel Knight, owner of Trevi Entertainment stated he did receive the letter that Mr.
Ward spoke of. He indicated that the hotels sound engineer is welcome to come
inside and look around. He noted that Councilmember Hickman had addressed that
he had never found any issues with noise. He spoke of complying with the City's
Noise Ordinance and indicated that there is no noise that would affect the hotel.
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Deputy City Attorney Winterswyk stated a determination was made in connection
with the original Conditional Use Permit (CUP) that was approved that the project
qualified for an existing facility which is exempt under CEQA.
Agin Patel, owner of the Best Western Hotel, Lake Elsinore spoke in opposition of
the project. He noted that if anyone is parked in front of their hotel, they would not
hear any noise. He stated that the sound could be heard from the rear of the hotel,
and the rooms that face the entertainment center. He noted in the last three months
there has been no noise due to the suspension of the CUP. He stated he is willing
to work with Mr. Knight. �I
'Affik..
Michel Knight responded by saying he is available
staff members locate him if they need to speak wit
the hotel are welcome to come into his busim
requested.
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Matthew Ward responded by saying Mr.,
external policy to implement ways to mid
way is to have an engineer look at the
engineer conduct some type of testing.
and to have one of his
stated the owners of
rrduct inspections if
ments illustrate the need of
; He sggested one
e °or maybe have a sound
Commissioner O'Neal asked Mr Pate,% y he did no nduct any readings at the
hotel as opposed to taking them at theme /tertainment c"ter and also how man
lf/ r� = Y
days were the decibel levels above the allo / w Q ed]Cam�ount
J % y
Mr. Patel replied b!ay0he can heahe musicfrom his hotel, then the music is
loud enough. HeStated hes not cond ted any sound readings from his hotel.
Commissioner O'Neal point ut that he i of sure if the sound issue has anything
to do witl tai approval of he tage ; hiq is what is before the Commission today.
Zanellipomted out t e discussion tonight is pertaining to a stage that was
ut any approvals or hermits and really doesn't have anything to do with
sou
Mr. Knight if there is a decibel reader inside of the
entertain
Michel Knight responded by saying "Yes we do."
Commissioner Gonzales asked if someone monitors the readings during an event.
Michel Knight responded by saying "Yes we do." He stated there are three (3)
decibel readers inside of the center.
Acting Community Development Director Weiner clarified the Noise Ordinance by
saying the readings should be taken at the property line and the decibel levels
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should not exceed 65 decibels up to 10:00 p.m. and then goes down to 60 decibels
from 10:00 p.m until 7:00 a.m.
Mr. Patel asked the Commission how could they verify that the readings were taken
correctly.
Chairman Zanelli suggested for them to also have a decibel reading at the property
line and have it recorded and bring it back to the Commission.
Acting Community Development Director Weiner clarified the , cise Ordinance does
not differentiate between commercial uses. He statJ 'Rust, states residential,
commercial and industrial. He stated the hotel is co ered a commercial use
although Mr. Patel is correct by saying people sleept�otel, it is still considered
a commercial use. He stated in regarding the noise' <level read \und, ding should
be conducted by a licensed acoustical engineer
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Commissioner Mendoza pointed out that .. .. the CUP is stie•. <> Plann ing
Commission and therefore the Commission °can make ja?decision. He st t d that Mr.
Knight has met all of the requirements necessary approval of the stage. He
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indicated from what he has heard, it appears tha.�t is is not so much as a stage
issue but rather a lack of co mumcation betty the hotel owner and the
entertainment center. He noted t, f Condition No. 64 which addresses
that issue. He suggested that once his protect become 3 roved, have the project
come back to the Commission for anotFie i @w and if there are no further
problems then he state does not wantto have t�come back to the Commission.
Vice - Chairman
the procedures
be if the project
nity Development Director Weiner what
Acting Cgrnr
approved'�this
withm'15 days
c�nstructio
chec then at
the City Counc
ity De��loin�eri'tj ` �IVeiner replied by saying if the project is
Meng, one coul ppeal the Planning Commissions decision
He stated a?e end of the appeal period staff would look at where
I a is andythe Building Division would then finalize their plan
ilding rmit would be issued and the inspections would follow. He
;al was fled, it would go before the City Council for their review and
could edify the Conditions.
Vice- ChairmanNElores thanked Mr. Patel for bring his concerns to the Planning
Commission. He�added that the City has an obligation to determine the accuracy of
the decibel readings and therefore allowing a staff member to be part of the readings
which would provide actual evidence. He spoke of an additional condition which
addresses the review within six (6) months after approval. He asked if that time
period would commence today if approved.
Acting Community Development Director Weiner responded by saying it would begin
today or later if appealed. He stated if an exact date would be established, then that
would be the date the project would need to be reviewed by the Planning
Commission.
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Page 8 of 13
Chairman Zanelli suggested using December 15, 2009 as the date for the project to
be reviewed by the Planning Commission which would either amend Condition No.
61 or add a new Condition of Approval.
Acting Community Development Director Weiner suggested modifying Condition No.
61 by changing the language to read "reviewed by City Council" to reviewed by
"Planning Commission" and insert the date December 15, 2009.
Vice - Chairman Flores noted the amount of security officers that are employed at the
entertainment center and a fully armed security officer at the center and stated it is a
good sign that the owner of the entertainment center is `in „full compliance with the
security.
Commissioner O'Neal spoke of Condition No 63Ywhi6h discusses events going no
Fir
later than 3:00 a.m. and suggested some ex eptions should b(i%bde for the high
schools that have all night events. .
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Chairman Zanelli concurred with the suggesti
a.m. should be adequate with the exception of
Commissioner Mendoza requestedl`di
and asked what the circumstances inn
changing the process is approved.
Deputy City Attorney UVtn�'terswyk rep
Amendment tha J ming =efore the
not have any effeg;on this p
on a regular basis 2:00
on the`%ding for Condition No. 61
ould the broposed Text Amendment
i sayin0hat should the proposed Text
ing Commission gets approved, it would
Chairman ..Zanelli sp6We o`T�oid -- i r 32 where it discusses the installation of
�h
high quality ��sec, rity sure 'Ilance cameras in good operating condition. He
ree mmended addjng Video ecordings shall be made available on demand to the
She t 's Departmentf6nd that%[Urecordings shall be kept for a minimum length of
times Cescribed by tho Chief of Police.”
Chairmanelli requested adding a Condition to state "the manager /owner shall
report all incidents regarding victimization of the business or its patrons immediately
to the Sheriffs De 0 ent," and "any new violations of the Municipal Code or the
Conditions of App oval would result in the placement of this CUP on the next
available agenda for consideration of revocation or suspension in accordance of the
L. E.M.C."
Vice- Chairman Flores asked if there is an Ordinance in the L.E.M.C. that prohibits
music or entertainment to cease at a certain time.
Acting Community Development Director Weiner replied by saying "No."
Vice - Chairman Flores asked what time would the music stop playing.
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Acting Community Development Director Weiner replied by saying there isn't any
provision that specifically states a time in the L.E.M.C., however the owner would
need to comply with the Noise Ordinance.
Chairman Zanelli responded by saying when a special event has been planned, it
could be addressed on the special event permit and noted on the permit of the Noise
Ordinance. He further added should the special event create problems with loud
music and disturbs the other businesses in the area, and then they would need to be
stopped.
Acting Community Development Director Weiner pointed c,9t °to the Commission that
currently special events such as Grad Nights are not r�Gired to have a special or
temporary permit.
Chairman Zanelli replied by saying he referre,h�gvin= the events „end at 2:00 a.m.
and he would not have a problem with Grad Nig�its, however` those should be
reviewed in a manner which would be,. llowed to take place without” being a
nuisance to the surrounding businesses.
Deputy City Attorney Winterswyk suggested
lock -down type of event must coply,with the
Chairman Zanelli replied by saying'he `di�i' think
event caused disturbance to the Be °st Wesfe� t
area. Viz,
Acting Commun
Condition No..6
before 8:00 a.m.
the Com ni
�R. 9 x
case
City
the
Michel Knight replied
that he would need tc
make a comolaint::;;
"Any High School supervised
ise Ordinance."
uld be adequate if an
other business in the
Director Weiner recommended the language to
events al go no later than 2:00 a.m. nor begin
n of aduupervised high school events in which
o approve such an event on a case by
the applicant if he would approve the added
saying "Yes." He added he did not approve of the idea
ne back to the Commission every time someone would
Chairman Zanellreplied by saying, should the Code Enforcement, Building & Safety
or the Sheriffs Department continue to find problems, and they are under the
owner's control, then it should be brought to the Planning Commission's attention.
Chairman Zanelli closed the Public Hearing at 7:19 p.m. and requested a motion.
A motion was made by Commissioner Mendoza and seconded by Commissioner
Gonzales to adopt Resolution No. 2009 -41, approving modifications to the
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Conditional Use Permit No. 2008 -09 including the additional Conditions of Approval
and the modification to the existing Conditions.
The following vote resulted:
AYES: CHAIRMAN ZANELLI
VICE - CHAIRMAN FLORES
COMMISSIONER GONZALES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER O'NEAL
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
BUSINESS ITEM(S)
None
STAFF COMMENTS
Public Works Director /City Engi
He brought the
t
Central Avenue
the be project to
He statedthe.[
still sians'`missin
on the following:
the CIP program where he discussed
it is moving forward and staff expects
been completed, however there are
'nds the Center of Grape Street and how the turf would
is WWII as the medians along Mission Trail and Lincoln.
ild ; have bark and a drought plant material added in order
installed in order to save water. Mission Trail & Lincoln
Weed Abatement program is over.
Commissioner O'
• No comments.
commented on the following:
Commissioner Gonzales commented on the following:
• He spoke of campaign signs that are still remaining and suggested to having them
removed.
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Commissioner Mendoza commented on the following:
• He spoke of the grading at the end of La Strada and asked if traffic is an issue and
was ingress /egress ever discussed. Public Works Director /City Engineer Seumalo
stated there was some discussion with the developer using a trail from north
Tuscany to Greenwald. Commissioner Mendoza pointed out to Public Works
Director /City Engineer Seumalo that there are trucks using a road known as
Belavista that leads to a dirt road down to Greenwald. Public Works Director /City
Engineer Seumalo replied by saying he would speak to the City's Traffic Engineer
and the Inspectors.
• He spoke of the Mine off Nicolas Road and how they are pot in ,, compliance with the
Conditions of Approval that states "all signs must be in ff sh and English."
Vice - Chairman Flores commented on the follow!
• He spoke to a person in the audience i
however the individual did not come u
recorded.
Chairman Zanelll commented on the following:
• No comments.
ADJOURNMENT
It was the c(
Planning Coi
Elsinore, CA.
a home purchan Lash Street,
podigm and there oed,,id not get
)mmisslr to adjourn to the July 7, 2009, Regular
at 6:00. located at 183 N. Main Street, Lake
7:29 p.m.
AXEL ZANELLI, CHAIRMAN
PLANNING COMMISSION
Agenda Item No. I Ck,
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Respectfully Submitted,
DANA PORCHE
OFFICE SPECIALIST III
ATTEST:
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Agenda Item No. I 0.
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