HomeMy WebLinkAboutItem No. 1MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 18 2007
CALL TO ORDER — 6:00 P.M.
Vice - Chairman Gonzales called the meeting to order at
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Flores led the Pledge of Allegiance
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ROLL CALL
PRESENT: VICE - CHAIRMAN GONZALES �\ ;
COMMISSIONER FLORES
COMMISSIONER MEP
COMMISSIONER ZAN
ABSENT: CHAIRMAN O'NEAL
STAFF PRESENT
Also present were CZ% unity Development`D'ector Preisendanz, Planning Manager
Weiner, Deputy City Ao ey a =tana Planning Consultant Donahoe, Planning
Consultant Court'; ssoc ate, >„planner�� os'on, Public Works Director /City Engineer
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1. Minor Design Review of a Single - Family Residence located at 703 Pottery Street
(APN: 374 - 041 -017).
Recommendation: Approval
Vice - Chairman Gonzales requested the applicant to approach the podium.
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Hector Zubieta, applicant for the project indicated his client has read and agrees
with the Conditions of Approval.
A motion was made by Commissioner Mendoza and seconded by Commissioner
Zanelli to adopt Resolution No. 2007 -157 approving Minor Design Review for a
conventionally built Single -Story Single - Family dwelling unit located at 703 Pottery
Street.
The following vote resulted:
AYES : VICE - CHAIRMAN GONZALES
COMMISSIONER FLORES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER ZANELL1,AO`�
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: CHAIRMAN O'N
ABSTAIN: NONE
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Avenue (APN: 378 - 262 -004)
Recommendation: Denial
Vice - Chairman
project to his rE
Commissioner Zan
like to hav
height of
from the'item due to the proximity of the
to approach the podium.
the project as well as item number three stated he
tV /to work with staff in order to work out the issues
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Commis?Q p Zanelli 4 "sCed the applicant if he is requesting a continuance.
Scott Vasquez \ggfirmed by saying a feels t their have been some
miscommunicatioh him and staff and requested more time to resolve the
issues.
Commissioner Flores requested a point of order. He indicated staff is
recommending a denial for the project yet the applicant is requesting a continuance
for both this project as well as item number three.
Deputy City Attorney Santana confirmed that the Commission could continue off
calendar Item's two and three with one motion.
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3. Minor Design Review of a Single- family Residence located at 415 Adobe Street
(APN. 377- 312 -020)
Recommendation: Denial
A motion was made by Commissioner Flores and seconded by Commissioner
Mendoza to continue off calendar the Minor Design Review of a Single - Family
dwelling unit located at 16781 Holborow Avenue and at 415 Adobe Street.
The following vote resulted:
CHAIRMAN O'N
VICE - CHAIRMAN
Vice - Chairman Gonzales
PUBLIC HEARING ITEM(S)
Vice - Chairman
at 6:11 p.m.
ProiegtPlanrier r "�Jp oe p.�o Jided a brief overview of the project to the Commission.
Shemdicated the is ' =no:s the Third Street Annexation Area. She stated
the project is bordered by DO O R Avenue and Camino Del Norte to the west,
Waterfof' Street to the east and Highway 74 to the north all which is currently in the
County of erside She noted the General Plan Update adoption process is not
anticipate gin unti�`the first quarter of 2008 and LAFCO takes a minimum of six
(6) months in which the City desires to submit the annexation to LAFCO. She stated
this would give staff ~en gh time to get the application ready. She stated LAFCO is
willing to accept,fhe annexation application, but would not be taking any action on
the annexation until such time that the City pre -zones the property. She indicated
staff recommends approval of the project. She advised the Commission that she
received a memo from a property owner and provided a copy to the Commission.
Vice - Chairman Gonzales requested speakers to speak either for or against the
project.
Mike Matthews, resident of the unincorporated area of Lake Elsinore spoke neutral
of the project. He addressed the Commission on how the City did not accurately
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COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
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inform the residents regarding the past meeting on the Third Street Annexation. He
stated four key questions that the residents of the Third Street Annexation wanted
straight forward honest answers and did not receive. The first most important is the
zoning and quality of life issue. He indicated without a commitment from the City to
keep the Residential Agriculture (RA) zoning, he stated it would impact his quality of
life by taking away the many freedoms that he moved there to enjoy. He feels he
can classify his home as horse property which would keep the value of the homes at
the level equal to surrounding housing in the area. He added that he asks for an
action plan for the flooding and water issues that he has experienced since
construction has began in Wasson Canyon. He indicated a response was never
given until the residents had to plead with many of theg City County and State
Officials. o
George Edsel, stated he was involved in a propg5ed axation about thirteen
years ago and indicated he does not understand eosts. El one should take a
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look at the benefits for the residents and suested %having it pl a ballot for
the City to vote on.
Bernard Rockwood, requested the zoningif re . i " is. He��spoke of the
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potential speeding on Welch Street, the sewer s drainage issues and how it
could impact the residents. thl—
Eddie Henosa, spoke of the water',W4 `°`� � off Allen Stre`"� rld the proposed zoning
for the annexed property. He requeste th aater issues be handled as soon as
ry
possible. n
Elsinore Hills RV� arkI(ffl e not entered into the "record) stated his concerns were
with zoning an ,, %p\o, sed fj"at should the,zoning be changed to Hillside Housing, it
would reduce fhe erty value
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Vice Cha rQ NGgnzaleSzc sed the Public Hearing at 6:27 p.m.
Vic6lChairman Gonzales advis, he audience the sewer lines are controlled by
L 11 re Murnci Waterg istrict (EVMWD) and not the City. He requested
commentS_from staff a Messing the comments made by the public.
Project Planner Donahoe pointed out to the Commission the action that is before the
Commission is�to ,request LAFCO to commence proceedings to annex the territory
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designated and 6 Vthe land uses. She noted many property owners wish to keep
horses on their property and staff would research to determine if it is feasible to zone
the area allowing horses
Deputy City Attorney Santana replied by saying the City would take a look at the
zoning when staff is considering the prezoning application. She stated it would be
coming forward at the same time as the General Plan Update.
Commissioner Flores spoke of a letter from David McLane which was entered into
the record. He stated the issues in the letter spoke of land uses and asked if the
Commission could discuss the matter.
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Deputy City Attorney Santana replied by saying the request before the Commission
is a request for a boundary change only. The prezoning portion of the request
comes forward in the future and is likely that staff would be better prepared to
answer any questions so that we do not send out any mixed messages to the public.
Commissioner Flores asked when would the public have their questions answered
regarding the zoning issues. He stated, although it is a preliminary hearing staff is
requesting the process to be continued without the property owners having their
questions answered.
Director of Community Development Preisendanz replie'by saying staff is in the
process of answering the questions the public presentp, J' zoning.
Kirt Munio, resident of Lake Elsinore stated th � i ,,questions pl �ted are important
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issues that would have an effect on whether he =should use' is " land as he is
currently using it.
Commissioner Flores replied by saying as lo( he "�Commissioper for the City
he would assure to address all issues. He Po out that the supervisor for the
County or a representative sh" uld have atten e> the meeting. He stated he
believes the County and the City a not put their be oot forward and suggested
the public call the County Supervise an ° ndtexpress their c ohs.
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Public Works Director /City Engineer Seumao ;indicated that he met with
Commissioner Zanel i d. Commissioner Flores on, he drainage issues on Allen
Street. He stated t�ia a "s working with CalTrans and confirmed that they are
moving forward,<t diverting #hg water. '
Mike Matthews star d e %isle king for ari' answer to his questions as it has been
over a year H estate e oueosee the drainage issues resolved and stated
the County SUpMisor is Nso>aware of the issues.
Commissioner Flores' ated sFb Id the annexation proceedings continue, the City
would be able to proviop needed services. He stated he would like to see the
Annexatio` eve forwd, so the City could assist the property owners further.
Commissioner endoza thanked the audience for expressing their concerns to the
Commission. Fie tated he symphonizes with the homeowners who have had to
deal with the drainage issues and indicated that as long as the land remains in the
County, the City can't help the situation.
Eddie Henosa stated the drainage issues are a result from water coming from an
area that a developer commenced grading on.
Commissioner Zanelli concurred with the Commission. He pointed out that the City
is making every effort to improve the area. He stated the improvement may take
some time to resolve and stated he is in favor of approving the Annexation.
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Vice - Chairman Gonzales concurred with the Commission. He asked the Community
Development Director at what point do the citizens have a chance to vote.
Community Development Director Preisendanz replied by saying the citizens would
receive a notice regarding the annexation, prezoning and entitlements and would
have a chance to vote.
Commissioner Zanelli suggested to Community Development Director to provide the
audience an explanation of the fees that would incur once they are part of the City.
A motion was made by Commissioner Zanelli and sec
d by Commissioner
Mendoza to adopt Resolution No. 2007 -158, recomn ° g to tie City Council that
a request be made to the Riverside County Local Ag,e, ormation Commission
(LAFCO) to commence proceedings to annex the t r�ory designated as Annexation
No. 81 into the corporate boundaries of the City q Elsindre,f
The following vote resulted:
AYES : VICE - CHAIRMAN GONZAL
COMMISSIONER FLORE`
COMMISSIONER MENDO
COMMISSIONER ZANELLI
NOES: NONE
ABSENT v����AIF
ABSTAIN NONE
Vice Chairman Gonial s
meetm at 7 05& m
Vic ,Chairman Gonzales Indic
dbt R9 on them separ e
5. Conditional'i =,,Use Permit No.
condominidrnurposes)` and
Ridge. \a
Recommendation: Approval
6. Conditional Use Permit No.
condominium purposes), and
Oaks.
Recommendation: Approval
at 7:02 p.m. and reconvened the
items 5 & 6 would be discussed together but
Vice - Chairman Gonzales opened the Public Hearing at 7:06 p.m.
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Project Planner Coury stated the project areas for items number 5 & 6 are located
immediately adjacent from each other. He indicated for the purposes of the
Conditions and Resolutions, separate staff reports have been prepared. He stated
the items were continued from the August 21, 2007 Planning Commission meeting
at the request of the applicant. He indicated all issues have been resolved and the
applicant agrees to the Conditions of Approval.
He indicated the projects are pertaining to two individually -owned condominium units
with an associated common area within the Canyon Hills Specific Plan. He stated
both projects are located off Railroad Canyon Road, across, from the existing fire
Station. The architectural style would include Craftsman, Mediterranean and Tuscan
and both would be maintained by the Home Owner's Association (HOA). He noted
handicap parking would be provided for both projects,�llowing for disabled access to
the Recreation Center areas. He advised the Comrrlissiori tlithe applicant for both
projects is available to answer any questions the��griimission mad have.
David Dunham, representing Pardee
the two projects.
staff for their- of
Jim Stringer, representing Pardee Homes
indicated that they agree to the Cgnditions of
Vice - Chairman Gonzales reques
further comments, Vice - Chairman
staff for all their help and
from th"Spublic. There being no
0d the Py is Hearing at 7:13 p.m.
Commissioner Mendoza ; spoke of the "Condition's' " 'of Approval and requested
Condition No 21 be modified to include days and times. He mentioned the driveway
nearest to the irDepartment and asked if there would be a deceleration lane for
the second entrane��
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Protect Planner� nde bysying there would not be a deceleration lane
at this.time
P' bhc ,Works Director /City Engineer Seumalo noted that a traffic study was
conducteand the deceleration lane was not identified as a mitigation tool. He
stated st could furthbr review and added it if the Commission felt is was
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necessary.
Commissioner Mendoza stated the project would be a welcomed sight to the parcel
and had no further comments.
Project Planner Coury clarified Condition No. 21 to read the days and hours of
construction.
Commissioner Mendoza concurred.
Commissioner Zanelli asked if the Recreation Center would be completed prior to
occupancy.
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David Dunham concurred that the Recreation Center would be completed along
with the model prior to the production units.
Commissioner Zanelli had no further comments.
Commissioner Flores stated he is very proud that Pardee Homes has chosen Lake
Elsinore for this project. He asked if there is going to be a park proposed.
Jim Stringer replied by saying the reason there isn't any park is because of the two
proposed recreation centers and stated there are parks on the other side of Railroad
Canyon Road that satisfied the entire park requirements forthe`Canyon Hills project.
Project Planner Coury noted there are two recreatioWpbobters within both projects
including common areas and open field play areas dr %
Commissioner Flores asked if he knew of the go'reage of the opd"Ietd play areas.
David Dunham replied by saying the rep 4' facilities are strictly for the residents
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which include a steam room, sauna exerciseG� uipen, a racquet ball court and
swimming pool. He stated in addition to the re r on facility, both protects include
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Tot lots and picnic areas including barbeques.
Vice - Chairman Gonzales asked if n p ct t d water wo�uld� used for watering the
trees. " .. ��
Jim Stringer stated if the water were to .bb availabld1hen they would like to use it,
however he statedthe friaj6flty of the time the water is not available. He stated they
are also usm��,energy smartz buildings which include extra installation, dual pane
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windows and e glass all wl is energy effi✓ Which,
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Vice -Cf�r Gonzalds1had no f"uiftherycomments and called for a motion.
It was motioned bq�Commiss'o erFFlores and seconded by Commissioner Zanelli to
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adopt Resolution No 2007 -159 and adopt Findings that the project is exempt from
the M�'� a Species Habitat Conservation Plan (MSHCP).
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The followm to resq ted:
AYES VICE- CHAIRMAN GONZALES
COMMISSIONER FLORES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER ZANELLI
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: CHAIRMAN O'NEAL
ABSTAIN: NONE
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It was motioned by Commissioner Flores and seconded by Commissioner Zanelli to
adopt Resolution No. 2007 -160, approving Conditional Use Permit No. 2006 -15.
The following vote resulted:
AYES : VICE - CHAIRMAN GONZALES
COMMISSIONER FLORES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER ZANELLI
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: CHAIRMAN O'NEAL
ABSTAIN: NONE
It was motioned by Commissioner Flores
to adopt Resolution No. 2007 -161, rec
Vesting Tentative Parcel Map No. 34978.
The following vote resulted:
AYES : VICE- CHAI'RMAN
COMMISSIONER
COMMISSIO ER
COMMISSIONER
ABSENT:
by Comm `T' der Mendoza
City Coun Approval of
WW6 ymotioned by Commissioner Zanelli and seconded by Commissioner Mendoza
to adopt Resolution NftO07 =162, approving Residential Design Review No. 2006-
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The fol
AYES < ,.' VICE- CHAIRMAN GONZALES
COMMISSIONER FLORES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER ZANELLI
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: CHAIRMAN O'NEAL
ABSTAIN: NONE
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It was motioned by Commissioner Zanelli and seconded by Commissioner Flores to
adopt Resolution No. 2007 -163, adopting Findings that the project is exempt from
the Multiple Species Habitat Conservation Plan (MSHCP).
The following vote resulted:
AYES : VICE - CHAIRMAN GONZALES
COMMISSIONER FLORES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER ZANELLI
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: CHAIRMAN O'NEAL
ABSTAIN: NONE
It was motioned by Commissioner Mendoza
to adopt Resolution No. 2007 -164, approving
The following vote resulted:
AYES : VICE -CHAIR AN
COMMISSIO R
JAM m" � MISSION -,
BI MISSIONER<
ABST
ed by Commissioner Zanelli
I Use Permit No. 2006 -16.
It was� t�pned by Co ffil missio'ner Mendoza and seconded by Commissioner Zanelli
to adopt °Resolution N§12007 -165, recommending to the City Council approval of
Vesting Tentafa��e ParQAfNap No. 34979.
The following vote;
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AYES \:
3esulted:
VICE - CHAIRMAN GONZALES
COMMISSIONER FLORES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER ZANELLI
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: CHAIRMAN O'NEAL
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ABSTAIN: NONE
It was motioned by Commissioner Mendoza and seconded by Commissioner Zanelli
to adopt Resolution No. 2007 -166, approving Residential Design Review No. 2006-
10.
The following vote resulted:
AYES : VICE - CHAIRMAN GONZALES
COMMISSIONER FLORES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER ZANELLI
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: CHAIRMAN O'NEAL
ABSTAIN: NONE
BUSINESS ITEMS
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and Advance Treatment Units.
Planning Manager Weiner stated the
monitoring in the Coon Club Heigh
Coma, \
Advanced Treatmnt Urf'it a stated 1
already. He i Mated tha elated to
Municipal Wa£er�istr�ct (� MWD) to
Meeting where some of wite so b
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"�fo discuss related to septic
31 Ana River Basin as well as
ission is aware of some information
rt is an offer from Elsinore Valley
at the next Planning Commission
:d more at length.
Comm SS ion er Zartelli res'{ Mwded by saying he would like to see a presentation
pr to the Comm ssion b EVMWID at the next meeting. He stated as staff
rece more inform t qn he w Id like to look into changing the Municipal Code to
require septic go t n ad6nce treatment unit which means any water would be
clean as what EVMWDs currently pumping into the lake. He stated if that option
would no t hen t ther route to take is to either put a moratorium in the area
or try to gam fun�gr development of septic systems.
Commissioner Flores stated septic systems in the Country Club Heights area have
been a concern of his and recommended to also look at percolation testing. He
suggested having the Water District attend the meeting as well.
Commissioner Zanelli concurred with the recommendations and suggested having a
representative from Riverside Health Department available to answer any questions
that the Commission may have regarding the processing.
Deputy City Attorney Santana suggested that the City Council should be involved as
well and proposed a Joint Study Session with Council and Planning Commission.
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Commissioner Mendoza suggested having a presentation first with EVMWD and
then a Joint Study Session including City Council.
STAFF COMMENTS
Public Works Director /City Engineer Seumalo commented on the following:
• He spoke of the Capitol Improvement Project on Franklin Street which is going to
City Council for award. 111,
PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Chairman O'Neal commented on the following:
Vice - Chairman Gonzales commented on
• He spoke of Canyon Hills Club House and how
Commissioner Mendoza
• He spoke of the improvements to
great it looks.
Commissioner
• He commented
Mission Trail and how
the City iskl having the new bowling alley and enjoys
A�t�ere. However, he stated he does not like
ques es staff to move forward and ask the applicant
according to the City's standards. Director of
pdanz replied by saying the owner promised the
wever has not followed though. He stated he would
y's Code Enforcement Department.
on the following:
He spoke of the &Ufiti on the walls at Trevi Lanes Bowling Alley and stated that the
suspects were caught. He stated City staff contacted the local newspaper hoping
they would publish an article about the incident however refused to do so. He
indicated that he was disappointed to learn the newspaper would not support the
City.
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ADJOURNMENT
It was the consensus of the Commission to adjourn to the October 02, 2007, Regular
Planning Commission meeting at 6:00 p.m. located at 183 N. Main Street, Lake
Elsinore, CA. 92530.
Vice - Chairman Gonzales adjourned the meeting at 7:52 p.m.
JOHN GONZALES, ,,VICE- CHAIRMAN
PLANRIIN' COMMISSION
Respectfully Submitted,
DANA PORCHE
OFFICE SPECIALIST III
ATTEST:
TOM WEINER
ACTING DIRECTOR O
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