HomeMy WebLinkAboutItem No. 1aMINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 16, 2008
CALL TO ORDER — 6:00 P.M.
Chairman Zanelli called the meeting to order at 6:07
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Vice - Chairman Flores led the Pledge of
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: CHAIRMAN ZANELLI
VICE - CHAIRMAN FLORE:
COMMISSIONER GONZA
COMMISSIONER MENDO
COMMISSIDNER O'NEAL
ABSENT: NO
STAFF PRESENT
Also preseft %Acting "Qbmmunity Development Director Weiner, Deputy City zl
Attorney'Winterswyk,- ` „Gblic Works ,Airector /City Engineer Seumalo, Senior Planner
Harris Planning Consultant Court' Associate Planner Carlson, and Office Specialist
Porche.
None
DISCUSSION
1. Minutes of the Regular Planning Commission Meeting from November 6, 2007.
Recommendation: Approve as submitted.
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It was moved by Commissioner Gonzales, and seconded by Commissioner O'Neal
approving the November 6, 2007 Regular Planning Commission Minutes.
The following vote resulted:
AYES: CHAIRMAN ZANELLI
VICE - CHAIRMAN FLORES
COMMISSIONER GONZALES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER O'NEAL
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
2.
Senior Planner Harris provided aaN
project. He stated that the applica
approval which were approved by thel
indicated that the ape
�t had agree
originally cost $864 26 stated in
sewer line replacement arr'di/N xtensio
funds. He sta{ed a rp�
%°p resental
explain the districtsosition on the
esentation out/ni�g the timeline of the
io
requesting to��i mend the conditions of
ing Commission on January 2, 2007. He
omplywth('providing a sewer line which
2008, indicated an additional
necessary, resulting in an increase of
EVMWD would attend the meeting to
r. He further stated that a letter was
16, 2008 which was submitted for the
Tb'ri applicEffin stateditJ/ ° at EVMWD requested a modified plan for sewer
whic�i would make th ,oject very expensive to replace an existing sewer line. He
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stated that he would bvailable to answer any questions that the Commission may
have
Commissioner O'Neal expressed his concerns on the timing. He asked why the
water district cou,IA't complete the improvements.
Commissioner Gonzales concurred with Commissioner O'Neal's concerns. He
indicated that he did not think it is fair for the applicant to pay for the replacement
line. He asked if the soil percolates.
Acting Community Development Director Weiner stated "Yes."
Commissioner Mendoza stated that he does not feel that the applicant should be
responsible for the additional fees.
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Vice - Chairman Flores asked what date the applicant found out that the sewer lines
were too shallow.
Senior Planner Harris indicated that it was sometime in May.
Vice - Chairman Flores stated that it is difficult for him to understand why it took so
long.
Greg Kowalski, representative of EVMWD, indicated that he provided to the
Commission a letter stating the facts and the districts position on the matter. He
stated he would be available to answer any questions that the Commission may
have.
Commissioner Gonzales asked if all of the
septic or sewer.
Greg Kowalski stated that some are
have them put on sewer.
Ron Young, General Manager spoke of the
order to complete the relocation of,,the,water
Commissioner Mendoza asked
Ron Young stated
Vice - Chairman
district during t
Greg
Acting Community
approval indicated
of occupancy
t th,g initial es
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asked; if the
of constructic
iced `that the
to "reach the 1
ses along that street are on
here are no cut t; plans to
adtustrrY;��� is that would be necessary in
lines an`d<provide sewer to the houses.
initial
developer.
plans were approved by the water
I-r district had not approved the plans and
solution.
as to when the City applies the conditions for
pment Director Weiner stated that the conditions of
connection needs to be completed prior to the certificate
Acting Community Development Director Weiner indicated that the information that
has been received from the water district is reliable and the City has a good working
relationship with their staff. He stated that City staff goes off the information that
they receive from the water district in terms of the sewer. He indicated that the map
was generated by the applicant. He stated that based on the information that staff
has, the applicant meets the guidelines of having to connect to sewer.
Commissioner O'Neal asked what the fees for septic systems versus sewer were.
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Tony Polo stated it cost approximately $20,000 per lot for septic, versus $230,000 ±
for the sewer installation.
Dale Neil, owner, provided to the Commission a timeline of the process. He stated
that he does not feel that it is fair to hookup to the sewer due to the cost. He would
appreciate it if he would be allowed to go back to the septic system as it falls within
the code.
Chairman Zanelli asked where the original engineering
Dale Neil stated that they came from EVMWD.
Commissioner Gonzales asked if there are any
systems in the area.
Acting Community Development Director :Weiner stated
Enforcement information; there have not been any - ,septi
Drive. �.
Chairman Zanelli provided a
pumped up to the sewer line.
Dale Neil indicated that he has
and that the suggestion was not
came from.
the existing septic
on Code
fai
to the' ,l „icant of having their sewage
the water district for sometime,
Chairman Zanelli sta'te'tl %that these types of issues have been brought to the
Planning Commis ion's attention for many years; however, he indicated that the
procedures were'gdng to be discussed for potential modifications. He stated that he
hopes all single- famiiy homes %(�dividual)., 'Be required to hook up to a sewer line,
prior to certificate of occupancy” e stated that as much as he emphasizes with the
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applicanf'he cou=hJ „not support a modification to the Conditions of Approval.
It'was , moved by Commi'ssionerfGonzales, and seconded by Commissioner O'Neal
approving the modifications of%the Conditions of approval in Association with two (2)
Minor Design Review /approvals for the development of two (2) Conventionally Built
Single- Faihily gavelling Qnits located at 4073 & 4019 Crestview Drive.
The following vote resulted:
AYES COMMISSIONER GONZALES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER O'NEAL
NOES: CHAIRMAN ZANELLI
VICE - CHAIRMAN FLORES
ABSENT: NONE
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ABSTAIN: NONE
PUBLIC HEARINGS
3. Conditional Use Permit No. 2008 -20 and a Minor Design Review - `Royal Street
Communications" Co- Located Wireless Monopine Cellular Tower Facility.
Chairman Zanelli opened the Public Hearing at 7:13 p.m.
Planning Consultant Coury provided a brief presentation
explained to the Commission that the lack of landscaping,;
water available to service the site. 1
Monica (last name did not record), applicant for
the Conditions of Approval and would be availp
Commission may have.
There being no further comments,
7:15 p.m.
Vice - Chairman Flores asked
The applicant indicated that pru
reviews the plans for any potential
There being no
It was moved Gommissip�er
to adopt Resolution Nurr,,be,/
any potential fi
)r ructi
risks ;j
Chairman Zane
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seconded by Commissioner O'Neal
- ovina Conditional Use Permit No.
CHAIRMAN ZANELLI
VICE - CHAIRMAN FLORES
COMMISSIONER GONZALES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER O'NEAL
NOES:
NONE
ABSENT:
NONE
ABSTAIN:
NONE
4. Appeal of the Communitv Development _D irector's Determination regarding a
Proposed 3.652 Sauare -foot Storage Buildinq to b located in the Rear -yard of the
Commission. He
ise there isn't any
that she agreed to
,buestions that the
the Pu
ring at
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the';County Fire Department
existing Single- Family Residence at 32166 Machado Street.
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Chairman Zanelli opened the Public Hearing at 7:22 p.m.
Acting Community Development Director Weiner provided a brief timeline of the
project. He indicated that the applicant is appealing the determination made by the
Community Development Director on August 21, 2007. He stated the decision for
denial was based on Municipal Code, Chapter 17.23.04 (B) (3) and the issues
regarding the compatibility of architecture.
Bob Rice, appellant of the project introduced himself to the Commission. He
indicated that the storage building would match the color,a, d design of the main
house. He provided to the Commission a signed stateont from his surrounding
neighbors stating that they would not object to the structure,,.
Commissioner Gonzales asked how large the
Bob Rice replied, the door is 10 feet high
Chairman Zanelli stated that the issues' an
meets all of the city's requirements and
regarding the consistency between the main
The appellant showed the Comi
provide a sample of the material
the metal panels would be painted
storage building is.
feet wide.
of with he size of the Gilding as it
�acks,� He' stated the concerns are
use and the storage building.
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color of � proposed building and
f truct the building. He indicated that
& main house.
Commissioner O'Neal ask &d how much,of the stricture would be visible from the
right -of -way. ' ^ -r
The appellant replied that the structure is nof visible from the street.
Commisstoner'Mendoza stated that he agrees with the appellant and supports the
project.'
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Commissioner Mendoza.
Patricia Rice mother ofi +'the appellant stated she supports her son's decision.
Chairman Zanellii! that in lieu of the fact that the appellant is willing to paint
the storage buildji the same color of the main house, he support's the appellant's
project.
It was moved by Vice - Chairman Flores and seconded by Commissioner Mendoza
finding that the proposed 3,652 square -foot storage building is compatible with the
character of the existing surrounding residential neighborhood and is harmonious
with the architectural style of the main building.
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Page 6 of 11
The following vote resulted:
AYES : CHAIRMAN ZANELLI
VICE - CHAIRMAN FLORES
COMMISSIONER GONZALES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER O'NEAL
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
BUSINESS ITEMS
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Areas No. 1, 11, and III.
Deputy City Attorney Winterswyk' provided a report,'to the Planning Commission
requesting the Planning Commission review the redevelopment plan /amendment for
consistency with the General Plan and make , a report and recommendation to the
City Council. She stated the Planning Commission may also make a
recommendation for or against adoption of the redevelopment plan /amendment.
Commissioner Mendoza asked if there is a limit on the tax roll -over amount and how
many times it could %be rolledpver.
Deputy City,.Attorney WintersW`replied' "that there is a cap on roll -overs and the
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funds ould eventuallv' to be "spent and would not be able to roll over
It was. moved by Commissionef "O'Neal and seconded by Commissioner Mendoza to
adopt Resolution No 20p8 -106A, making its report and recommendation concerning
the proposed.,amende and restated redevelopment plans for the Lake Elsinore
Rancho Lagu"no:Rede elopment Project Areas No. I, II and III.
The following
AYES : CHAIRMAN ZANELLI
VICE - CHAIRMAN FLORES
COMMISSIONER GONZALES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER O'NEAL
NOES: NONE
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ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
6. Discussion Regarding Septic Tank/Sewer Hook -up Regulations.
Commissioner O'Neal stated the purpose of the discussion is to discuss potential
revisions to the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code regarding sewer hook -ups. He
indicated that he would like to modify the code that allows septic tanks for
commercial projects.
Chairman Zanelli asked the Deputy City Attorney. Winterswyk if the Planning
Commission could modify the code that would allow an individual as opposed to a
developer of two houses or more.
Deputy City Attorney Winterswyk replied, tV�Planning CommissiO would need to
determine d sa
whether or not there are neces/ry findings to deviate from #,he Uniform
Commissioner O'Neal asked if septic systems
Deputy City Attorney Winterswyk'
particularly upstream. She stated,;
has not had any reports and the lake
effect on the lake.
the main concern would be run -off
on is a possibility although the City
Commissioner O'Neal "spoke of a stud
presented to th � lanning Commission
that possibly or1 -0 e information coy
the water district which was
one year ago and indicated
Deputy City - t' W)nterswyk asked% -the Water District if any of the local wells
were tested m'fh study t�;nas prepared for the City.
R&hXoung, General Managerrnith EVMWD stated that a consulting firm conducted
the study and indicated that the entire Lake Elsinore basin was researched for water
quality 1 5 Ils which found that nitrates had increased.
Chairman Zanelli ask4when the plan would be completed.
Ron Young repllp4 it should be completed in six months.
Commissioner Mendoza concurred with Commissioner O'Neal's comments and
suggested to add "prior to building permit ", to the Conditions of Approval.
Commissioner O'Neal suggests adding "district to district."
Deputy City Attorney Winterswyk suggested drafting the Zoning Ordinance in the
event the septic tank prohibition was going to apply to some areas of the City, and
not others. '�,
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Acting Community Development Director Weiner suggested that should a text
amendment be proposed, an outreach meeting be organized for the public. He
noted that staff would prepare a report regarding gas lines and propane tanks in the
near future.
Chairman Zanelli asked if there was a parallel distance requirement on gas lines.
Public Works Director Seumalo/ replied that the gas company was contacted, and
found no standards.
Chairman Zanelli requested Public Works Director Seumalo to obtain a copy of an
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overlay map on the current gas company distribution line
Acting Community Development Director Weiner
for design review that would state, "Upon subs
approved set of sewer plans must be submih
Condition of Approval that would state, , Sewer c
to the first foundation inspection." He' stafed<
without any code changes.
Vice - Chairman Flores asked if
Acting Community Development Dire(
required fire hydrants."
Chairman Zanelli pointed oq that the
any changes in,ortler to prevent any ft
Acting Community
that the B.uildina,DE
Public Works Director
He wished eve gone happy holidays.
could
ested changing the application
of a Minor�besign Review an
He also suggested adding a
lions must be "'cbmpl'eted prior
,hose could be If "plemented
"We could include any
ing
needs to be informed of
Neiner stated that he would make sure
any changes made.
on the following:
Acting Community , 16velopment Director Weiner commented on the following:
• He thanked those who attended the Downtown Master Plan Workshop.
• He thanked the EVMWD for attending the Planning Commission Meeting.
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PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Commissioner O'Neal commented on the following:
• He thanked Mr. Young for attending the meeting as the information he provided was
very informative.
• He wished everyone happy holidays.
Commissioner Gonzales commented on the following:
• He thanked everyone for a successful year.
• He thanked EVMWD for providing helpful information mmission and Staff.
• He wished everyone happy holidays.
Commissioner Mendoza commented on the
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• He thanked EVMWD for coming to the me I of
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g He stated that it I freshing to
have a representative provide valuable infor
• He thanked staff for all their hard work I
Vice-Chairman Flores commented on the following:
0 He wished everyone Merry
Chairman Zanelli
on the
• He thanked ev&y6ne for cd@ng to the Plinnin Commission Meetings.
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• He thanked Public'Wbrks Director Seumalo,for all his hard work through-out the year
as well as th,e City St
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ADJOURNMENT
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It was the consensus of the Cpiffimission to adjourn to the January 6, 2009, regular
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Plan n i l ng, m issio n Meeting at 6:00 p.m. located at 183 N. Main Street, Lake
Elsinore, CA� 92530.
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Chairman Zanbelk I g adjourned at 8:30 p.m.
AXEL ZANELLI, CHAIRMAN
PLANNING COMMISSION
Agendaltem I o,
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Respectfully Submitted,
DANA PORCHE
OFFICE SPECIALIST III
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