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HomeMy WebLinkAboutItem No. 1bPage 1 of 7 CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES NOVEMBER 2, 2010 CALL TO ORDER Chairman Gonzales called the regular meeting of the Commission held on Tuesday, November 2, 2010 to c Cultural Center, located at 183 N. Main Street, Lake E` PRESENT: Chairman Gonzales, V Jordan, Commissioner ABSENT: None Also present: City Manager Brady, City Staff members present inch. Coury, Public Works Director The Chai an Mendoza Ater Jordan her Morsch ner O'Neal Mendoza Elsinore Planning at 6:00 p.m. in the CA 92530. Commissioner s, Planning Consultant ist Reid. PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES None. CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM(S) (1) Approval of Planning Commission Minutes Recommendation: Approve the following Minute(s): PC December 7, 2010 Item No. 1 b Page 1 of 7 Lake Elsinore Planning Commission Meeting Regular Meeting Minutes of November 2, 2010 Page 2 of 7 a. July 6, 2010 b. July 20, 2010 MOTION was made by Commissioner O'Neal, seconded by Commissioner Jordan and unanimously carried to approve the July 6, 2010, Planning Commission minutes, and the July 20, 2010, Planning Commission minutes. AYES: Chairman Gonzales, Vice Commissioner Jordan, Q Commissioner O'Neal NOES: None ABSENT: None ABSTAIN: None PUBLIC HEARING ITEM(S) (2) an Mendoza, loner Morsch, ager Brady provided an overview of the project and requested ning Coultant Coury review it with the Commission and answer Planning C6ftultant Coury indicated that the project was continued from three (3) previous meetings to this evening's Planning Commission meeting. He stated that there has been extensive discussion relative to the proposed parcel map and that the applicant is requesting to subdivide an existing 9.07 acre site into four (4) parcels within the General Commercial (C -2) District and Staff is recommending approval of the project. Commissioner Jordan requested that the Conditions of Approval should be revised to state "Final Map" instead of "Tentative Parcel Map ". PC December 7, 2010 Item No. 1 b Page 2 of 7 Lake Elsinore Planning Commission Meeting Regular Meeting Minutes of November 2, 2010 Page 3 of 7 Commissioner Morsch thanked the City Manager and the City Attorney for working out the issues that he had. He indicated that Shopping Centers are different than a single building on a C -2 Commercial lot and stated that the proposed Amendment should bring this particular project into compliance but believes that the City should look further ahead and entertain the idea of a new section to the Code that addresses Shopping Centers specifically. He concurs that the Amendment to Title 17 is needed and supports the project as it stands. Commissioner O'Neal had no comments. Vice - Chairman Mendoza thanked the Commission and thanked staff for con Chairman Gonzales thanked the Passed and adopted the following "Resolution No. 2010 -44 — A City of Lake Elsinore, Cal consistent with the Multiple MOTION was made Jordan and unank consistent with the 0 ABSENT: Passed patient with the Commission of the that the project is rn Plan (MSHCP) ". AI, by Commissioner I frhtlings that the project is Conservation Plan (MSHCP). ales, Vice Chairman Mendoza, Jordan, Commissioner Morsch, O'Neal None following Resolution: "Resolution No. WO -45 — A Resolution of the Planning Commission of the City of Lake Elsinore, California, recommending to the City Council of the City of Lake Elsinore, approval of Tentative Parcel Map No. 35135, located at 32250 Mission Trail with revisions to the Conditions of Approval. MOTION was made by Vice - Chairman Mendoza, seconded by Commissioner Jordan and unanimously carried recommending to the City Council of the City of Lake Elsinore, approval of Tentative Parcel Map No. 35135, located at 32250 Mission Trail with revisions to the Conditions of Approval. his PC December 7, 2010 Item No. 1 b Page 3 of 7 Lake Elsinore Planning Commission Meeting Regular Meeting Minutes of November 2, 2010 Page 4 of 7 AYES: Chairman Gonzales, Vice Chairman Mendoza, Commissioner Jordan, Commissioner Morsch, Commissioner O'Neal NOES: None ABSENT: None There was discussion between the Commissioners regarding the proposed Amendment to the Code and various issues that neii�to be reviewed within the Code. `... City Manager Brady suggested bringing consideration. He indicated that the initiated by Staff and then brought to „to' the City Council. He noted that Sfaff issues with the Development Code as it be reviewed after the General Plan is ad Commissioner Morsch ask should be concurrently with after the adoption of.the,,Gel City Manager will need to do the General F zoning and, ul ne the Geral €P at the I :m back to .s for Code mission for re re that there AAl xists but Commission for amendments is r ntendation to ;;number of uggested that it me to amend the Code Viral Plan, before hand, or ed that 6ice the General Plan is adopted, Staff uses, ar�the associated land designations that sh St ill then need to do the consistency I6pmentCole which should be completed after ing Consultant Coury what he thinks about n review Plan ningGpnsultanl`:C indicated that the design review process includes parking stbndards,,c rculation, landscape, and building design, etc. He stated that he understands Commissioner Morsch's point of view that if a blanket map were adopted without knowing what development will occur, it could create problems that would need to be fixed in the future. He indicated that Planning Staff reviews these issues during the design review process and the project has to meet and comply with all development standards when the project design comes forward. He noted that the responsibility is put on the developer because they risk subdividing a property according to today's design standards knowing that tomorrow's standards could change following the General Plan, and Zoning Code Update, etc. PC December 7, 2010 Item No. 1 b Page 4 of 7 Lake Elsinore Planning Commission Meeting Regular Meeting Minutes of November 2, 2010 Page 5 of 7 Commissioner Morsch indicated that he feels that the design review should take place at the same time that the parcel map is reviewed because there are various elements that go into Commercial Designs. He also stated that the City should give Developers of Shopping Centers as much latitude and flexibility as possible and aid Commercial Development community as they are bringing tenants of these Shopping Centers to the City. Commissioner Jordan indicated that she thinks that the design review should not take place at the same time that the parcel map is reviewed because a design review is very specific and to do this at the same time that the P e tentative parcel map is done is too early. Commissioner Morsch indicated that Corr into the residential subdivision concept commercial. may be locked ment and not Commissioner Jordan indicated that Vice - Chairman Mendoza indicatedthat'e< different opinion on various projects that in the end the majority decids!hether a Chairman Gonzales noted a later date. done commercials elects also. issioner is going to have a ont of the Commission but approved or disapproved. need to be reviewed at City Manager Brady confirmed thatthe Municipal Code still needs to be updated andsed. PublicEorks Director Seum�alo indicated that the Lakeshore Drive (4 corners) proj and the River Walk project are both underway. Senior Planner Harris had no comments. Planning Cons jWnt Cqury had no comments. Office Specialist Reid had no comments. City Manager Brady indicated that at the last City Council meeting, the Council received the Draft Housing Element for review and they requested a Joint Study Session with the Planning Commission on Tuesday, November 16, 2010, at 5:00 p.m. at the Cultural Center. He also indicated that the Planning Commission also received a copy of the Draft Housing Element for review and requested that they forward any comments or questions to Staff prior to the Study Session so that they can have the answers available in a timely manner. PC December 7, 2010 Item No. 1 b Page 5 of 7 Lake Elsinore Planning Commission Meeting Regular Meeting Minutes of November 2, 2010 Page 6 of 7 Chairman Gonzales indicated that he reviewed the first half of the Draft Housing Element and asked how accurate some of the data is because the census is not out yet. Commissioner O'Neal stated that the economic data is available. CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS City Attorney Leibold had no comments. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Commissioner Morsch discussed the status of the Cjty's` project (4 corners). Commissioner O'Neal had no comments. Vice - Chairman Mendoza had no Chairman Gonzales mentioned that he went to A. zizbia a few weeks ago and spoke to the Chairman of the City of Phpe�i Planning Commission who indicated that the City doesn't aljbw,chain link fe ' s or wood fences, only brick or cinder block and also stated th°atbe noticed nog`Wi on the freeways signs. ADJOURNMENT There being no f,.gher bust \ ss to Chairman Gonzales adiourne1' he me e before the Planning Commission, at 6:32 p.m. The Joint Study Session egardihdk Tuesday,, �Nov e r 16a 010, at 5:( 183 N Min Street, Lake�Csi, ore, CA Respectfully Kristine Herrington Office Specialist sing Element will be scheduled for m. at the Cultural Center located at John Gonzales Chairman PC December 7, 2010 Item No. 1 b Page 6 of 7 Lake Elsinore Planning Commission Meeting Regular Meeting Minutes of November 2, 2010 Page 7 of 7 Attest: Robert A. Brady City Manager PC December 7, 2010 Item No. 1 b Page 7 of 7