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CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
MINUTES
JULY 20, 2010
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Gonzales called the regular meeting of the Lake Elsinore Planning
Commission Refresher Course /Study Session on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 to
order at 6:00 p.m. in the Cultural Center, located at � -,, N. Main Street, Lake
Elsinore, CA 92530. Vie\
PRESENT: Chairman Gonzales, V
Jordan, Commissioner
Commissioner
ABSENT: None
Also present: City Manager Brady, City
Staff members present incl
Agency Analyst Carlson.
Porche', Redevelopment
The Pledge,ofAllegian`c "a's led
Cha
Mendoza
Jordan
Morsch
O'Neal
rman Mendoza
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
None.
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM(S)
(1) Minutes for the Following Planning Commission Meeting(s)
• May 4, 2010
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Lake Elsinore Planning Commission Meeting
Regular Meeting Minutes of July 20, 2010
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MOTION was made by Commissioner O'Neal and seconded by
Chairman Gonzales to approve the May 4, 2010, Planning
Commission minutes.
AYES: Gonzales, Mendoza, Morsch, O'Neal
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: Jordan
BUSINESS ITEM(S)
(2) Planning Commission Orientation
City Attorney Leibold indicated that hf
Commissioners an overview in Powerl
(Open Meetings Law), Political Reforn
Policies including applicable laws re
public officials. She stated that the
"refresher course" for the eklsting�Comrr
Vice -Chair
very busy
asked wt
he is
nior
Rules
to the "fir
members.
would be presen to the new
pint of__the Ralph M�:� Act
Act, and selected City Council
jla #ions and policies governing
prsentation also served as a
dlcated tliat`tpows that City Manager is
Is no :Community Development Director and
ioner's" should address their questions or
indicated ,,that if the Commissioners have any
to contact him and if he is not available, to contact
ndicated that the Commission is not governed by
rs" and asked City Attorney Leibold to explain the
information in the orientation and "Robert's Rules"
oners as well as the rest of the Commission
City Attorney Leibold stated that the handbook that Commissioner O'Neal
is referring to is the Standard Code of Parliamentary Procedure Fourth
Edition, revised by the Institute of Parliamentarians and shall govern the
conduct of City meetings. She indicated that a copy is available in the City
Clerk's office and will be distributed to the Commission.
Ms. Leibold reviewed the following items of the PowerPoint presentation
regarding the Brown Act, selected City Council Policies, and the Political
Reform Act.
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One item on the presentation that Ms. Leibold reviewed which
Commissioner Morsch had a question related to public comments. She
indicated that the law requires that the Commission allow the public to
comment on any item on the Agenda before they take an action and in
some jurisdictions they have the opportunity for public comment before the
meeting but regarding agenized items, the City Council and the Planning
Commission both allow public comments when that item comes up on the
Agenda and before they deliberate. In some cities, they don't allow
members of the public to comment on each agenda item at the time it
comes up during the meeting, all of the comments,,,have to take place at
the beginning of the meeting but the City of Lake Elsinore believes that it
is more appropriate to allow the public to speak w,'en the item comes up,
therefore, it is fresh in everyone's mind.
Commissioner Morsch stated that i
going to the City Council meetings
comes up for discussion, the public]
speak, and then sit in the audience;
The project is then discussed at the
sometimes new informat* C IS disci
& the issues iat he has when
that when a PubUC, Hearing item
invited to come up tef "the podium,
the Public Hearing is'then closed.
ig� ;commissioner Morsch felt that
ed :rand that person has lost their
opportunity for a rebuttal "n Yuen at the e�d�of the hearing, there is only
oj.
allowance for anon- agenzed Item:; Therefore; his question is if a person
wants to rebut a new issue That is broiig up and the Public Hearing is
closed, how is ths`to; be accort,odated
Ms. Lei bol� fridicated that legalfy, the Commission is not required to
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accommo2ata this but it Is within "thy discretion of the Chairman, or in the
case of the ity Council„ j1p, or to allow additional public comment.
Theme vas, dlscuss� by the Commission regarding the amount of time
that the public has�ospeak. Ms. Leibold noted that the Brown Act does
recognize that It�r ate for the City to limit the time period for public
comments and that Is w}�y there is a three (3) minute limit on an Agenda
Ms. Leibfold reviewed City Council Policies and addressed City Council
Meetings, Rules, and Procedures.
Commissioner O'Neal asked for clarification of this Policy.
Ms. Leibold indicated that all meetings and all votes are open and stated
that the exception to the requirement for open meetings are authorized
closed sessions which are specifically listed in the Brown Act and include
existing or threatened litigation, personnel or labor negotiations, and real
property negotiations.
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Commissioner O'Neal asked who he would speak to if he was dissatisfied
with the Deputy City Attorney or the City Attorney's performance during
the Planning Commission meetings.
Ms. Leibold indicated that if the Commission as a body were dissatisfied
with the Deputy City Attorney or the City Attorney's performance they
would direct their dissatisfaction to the City Council. The City Council
employs the City Manager, the City Clerk, and the City Attorney and
Council would make that determination.
Ms. Leibold reviewed Policy No. 200 -3 /Conflicts of Interest and indicated
that the Planning Commissioners are required to comply with the Political
Reform Act and there are two (2) components'to °'this Policy which are
Disclosure and Disqualification.
Commissioner Jordan indicated that
Company who she no longer we
regarding the Code of Ethics, and Ct
ased to work fo a Development
'or and reque ' fpd clarification
of Interest relate,_ this.
Ms. Leibold indicated that the Politicz
Commissioners /City Council members
any decision in which they Nom' conflict
There was lengthy
Leibold regarding
procedure to take;'
Ms.
for
"'Act states that Planning
ibited from participating in
oners and Ms.
of interest and
document regarding qualifications
W OMh rnan f endoza asked' "Jf` it should be general practice that all
cantswa,,r,e, � asked the same questions or can certain questions be
ified for GAP, applicants for the appointments.
indicated that the City does not address this in their policy but
it is upjb the subcommittee of the City Council selected by the
scree*and interview the applicants.
Ms. Leibold` reviewed Disclosure under the Political Reform Act which
requires State and Local Officials to file Statements of Economic Interests
and reviewed examples of disclosure.
There were some questions that the Commissioners had regarding
Economic Interests. Ms Leibold reviewed Economic Interests which
included economic interests in business entities, real property, sources of
income, sources of gifts, and personal financial effects rule.
Commissioner Morsch asked Ms. Leibold if it was a conflict of interest that
he is currently serving on the Citizen's Corp. as a volunteer.
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Ms. Leibold indicated that there is no conflict of interest because this is
voluntary and there is no compensation involved.
Commissioner Morsch asked Ms. Leibold if the City protects a Planning
Commission member if they are being sued for construed misconduct or
corruption.
Ms. Leibold indicated that the City does protect a Commission member if
they are acting in their official capacity but if they are acting beyond the
bounds of their official duties then the City does notprotect them.
Commissioner Morsch asked if there are Ilrnnions that the City has
regarding Public Records Request. M �`��
Ms. Leibold indicated that anyone
records and the City is legally obligd
person requesting the record woul ll
is obligated to charge .25 cents pe
though the City is obligated to accom
to be limited to specific tees during
interfere with conducting �,Lty�btoslnes;
Commissioner Morsch
Ms. Leibold
mail has
some a -I
There be
Chairman
legally entitled;to access public
Ho make those ;available. If the
a copyof the record en the City
3e She also Indlcat2'd' that even
date the request, this request has
%sless hours as not to as not to
are public record.
sated that a mails re public"record but there are some
as overbroad requests and the person requesting the e-
speclfl &l request. She also indicated that
e no , II? � \ acord such as Attorney /Client privileged
:e mails at the0Cty Council level that are constituted as
rocess ", etc., and the public cannot charge for staff time.
ness to come before the Planning Commission,
i the meeting at 8:25 p.m.
The next regular" meeting of the Planning Commission of the City of Lake
Elsinore is scheduled for Tuesday, August 3, 2010, at 6:00 p.m. in the Cultural
Center located at 183 N. Main Street, Lake Elsinore, CA 92530.
John Gonzales
Chairman
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Respectfully Submitted,
Kristine Herrington
Office Specialist
Attest:
Rol
Cit,
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