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CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
MINUTES
JULY 6, 2010
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Gonzales called the regular meeting of the
Commission held on Tuesday, July 6, 2010 to order at
Center, located at 183 N. Main Street, Lake Elsinore,
PRESENT: Chairman Gonzales, V
Jordan, Commissioner
ABSENT: None
Also present: City Manager Brady, City
Staff members present included " Senior
Coury, Public Works Director Seumalo; an<
The
Mendoza
O'Neal.
W
Elsinore Planning
p.m. in the Cultural
Commissioner
J'Neal
Planning Consultant
Porche'
Porche'.
Commissioners Shelly Jordan and Rick Morsch took the Oath of Office.
SELECTION OF PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIRMAN
MOTION was made by Commissioner O'Neal, seconded by Commissioner
Mendoza and unanimously carried to nominate John Gonzales as
Chairman of the Planning Commission.
AYES: Gonzales, Mendoza, Morsch, Jordan, O'Neal
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NOES:
None
ABSENT:
None
ABSTAIN:
None
SELECTION OF PLANNING COMMISSION VICE - CHAIRMAN
MOTION was made by Commissioner O'Neal, se
Morsch and unanimously carried to nominate
Chairman of the Planning Commission.
AYES: Gonzales, Mendoza,
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
by Commissioner
endoza for Vice-
O'Neal
Daryl Hickman congratulated the two (��e Plan fig Commissioners and
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asked that they glue tho6@0�, fulness a pare In their decisions to help the City
grow appropriatel Q also" ngrat Ibed John Gonzales and Phil Mendoza in
their new positi® He Indted that he was informed that Jeremy McGrath
would be purchase the and looked forward to working with
him.
;fill
1,
Approval with modification to the following paragraph on page 11 of the
Planning Commission Minutes.
Vice - Chairman Gonzales indicated that he and his wife are members of
the Chamber of Commerce and agree with the statements regarding the
Chamber.
MOTION was made by Vice - Chairman Mendoza and seconded by
Commissioner O'Neal to approve the June 1, 2010 Planning
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Commission minutes with modification to the last paragraph on page
11.
AYES: Gonzales, Mendoza, Morsch, O'Neal
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: Jordan
PUBLIC HEARING ITEM(S)
(2) Consideration of Modifice
Conditional Use Permit N
Motocross
Recommendation:
Commissioner O'Neal reques£ th
�T
2010, Planning Cnission m etini
pertinent infofmatlon t ting to�t`h`
new owne" purchased the pro`pE
Chairman
CUP stay
to
City
Senior
ontinued to August 3,
mission can review all
ity, assuming that the
Planning Commissioners that the
the Motocross.
lirman Mendo�a suggested that this item be continued for thirty
trty flveE ; 5) d" y'4rom the time that a new owner establishes the
to provl ufficlent time to review the CUP.
d asked if staff received anything in writing from the
property owner, or the new operator.
Harris stated no.
City Attorney Leibold asked if anyone in the audience could provide an
update regarding the purchase of the Motocross Facility.
Daryl Hickman indicated that the new owner was in the process of
purchasing the property.
City Attorney Leibold asked if the Motocross Facility is presently in
operation.
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Senior Planner Harris stated that the Motocross Facility is not currently in
operation and indicated that he had a phone conversation with the
applicant who said he was unable to attend the Planning Commission
meeting because he had a previous obligation.
Commissioner O'Neal requested that Senior Planner Harris give an update
regarding the Staff Report to inform the new Commissioners of the status
of the Motocross. He also recommended a continuance.
Commissioner Morsch asked if the N
voluntarily or closed by the City. He also i
McGrath for a long time, has followed his
responsible person, and would expect
completing the outstanding Conditions pr
would like to continue this item for thirty�(3
a reasonable amount of time.
)tocross 2flacility was closed
dica he has known Mr.
:areer,'and knows that he is a
htm to;' allow through with
it to openIip the Facility. He
) days whic ,believes to be
Senior Planner Harris indicated that
the last Planning Commission me(
Staff Report to update theln om
Commissioner O'Neal
Commission with the o
with Mr. Hiner since
an overview of the
Leibold provide the
City Attorney�Leibold ,dicated; ghat the Commission could continue,
suspend, or,revoke the CUP.
this item until all issues are
nissioner M;enddza suggested that this item be continued so that the
lessee has, opportunity to take care of all of the outstanding
Itions and can, begin operation of the Facility as soon as possible.
had no comments.
Commissioner'Morsch recommended suspension for thirty (30) days until
the new owner is in place and has complied with the outstanding
Conditions, at which time, Planning, Engineering, and the Commission can
make a decision.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that the applicant should have provided
written documentation as to the status of the negotiations but as of yet, the
City has not received any written documentation.
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(3)
Vice - Chairman Mendoza recommended a continuance until the new owner
has purchased the facility.
MOTION was made by Commissioner O'Neal, seconded by Vice -
Chairman Mendoza and unanimously carried to continue
Consideration, Suspension, and /or Revocation of Conditional Use
Permit No. (CUP) 2001 -05 for the Lake Elsinore Motocross to August
3, 2010.
Will 3i
Recommendation:
City Manager
Planning Cor
AB333 al
(2) years
Gonzales, Jordan, Mendoza,
project and requested that
Commission and answer
,.d °the Staff Report to the Commission
present.
ide, gave his name and address. He indicated that
Casson Canyon Land, LLC (Development Company)
questions that the Commission had.
A, doza asked Planning Consultant Coury if S131 185 and
A,
automatic three (3) year extension in addition to the two
the City Grants.
Planning Consultant Coury stated yes.
Commissioner Mendoza asked if the applicant has to pay a fee if there are
any extensions.
Planning Consultant Coury indicated that the three (3) year extension is
automatic no fees are required.
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Commissioner Mendoza asked what constitutes a qualifying map.
City Attorney Leibold explained what constitutes a qualifying map and
indicated that if a map was approved on or before a date certain and if it is
in affect and not expired on or before a date certain than it is entitled to an
automatic extension and there is no review or opportunity to review.
Commissioner Morsch asked if the Condition requiring Elsinore Hills Drive
to be extended to Camino Del Norte, is the same Condition that is imposed
on the Spyglass project.
Public Works Director Seumalo indicated
agreement between the two projects was I
connected from Southshore I to Camino Det,h
is going to build the outside lanes, and ths,
the inside lanes.
Commissioner Morsch indicated , off ,
Spyglass builds and asked if there
Canyon Land (Development) and S
easement across the property
Mr. Lunde, indicated that the easer
stated that there ' Joint Develop
i
properties wlthsr oil a,ry access N
Morsch asked if
location.
this
id stated that the
Elsinore Hills Road
eating that Spyglass
dmmitted to building
is landlocked until
t between Wasson
ment) to obtain an
y been granted and
between the two (2)
Id be export or import of fill at the
Lunde g dlcatetl ;that there would not be export or import of fill at that
Also, 'h �tatedAhat they have reduced the grading considerably with
revision to the.mao.v,
Co,, issioner Morsch requested that if there is export/import fill to be
addedgt the site a Condition of Approval is to be added and requested
that the project IS to be brought back to the Planning Commission for public
comment. 1 0�;/
'�%
City Attorney Leibold reviewed with the Commission the revised Grading
Ordinance requirements regarding export/import.
Public Works Director Seumalo added that if the (maul volume) is greater
than 5,000 cubic yards, this would trigger the new requirements and trigger
a Public Hearing.
Commissioner O'Neal requested that this item be brought back to the
Planning Commission for review.
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There was lengthy discussion between the Commissioners regarding the
revised Grading Ordinance and the specific requirements regarding
export/import of fill. It was discussed between the City Attorney and the
Commission that in the event the Municipal Code or Conditions are
triggered, a Public Hearing is required, and the Planning Commission will
hear the item first and will then make a recommendation to the City
Council.
Passed and adopted the following Resolution:
"Resolution No. 2010 -32 — A Resolution of the
City of Lake Elsinore, California, recomm<
approval of Revision No. 1 for Tentative Tract
as amended. ah:
Commission of the
the City Council
11593 and consider
MOTION was made by Commi
Mendoza and unanimously c
approval of Revision No. 1 for
as amended.
(4)
seconded by Vice- Chairman
:n to the City. Council
Mob No. 31593 and consider
City Manager Brady provided an overview of the project and requested
that Senior Planner Harris review it with the Commission and answer
questions.
Senior Planner Harris presented the Staff Report to the Commission and
indicated that the applicant was present.
The applicant, Kip Dubbs, gave his name and address.
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Commissioner Jordan asked Mr. Dubbs to clarify the square footage
because she noticed a discrepancy in the Conditions and the first Sign
Program.
Mr. Dubbs indicated that a total of 859 square feet of signage is proposed.
Commissioner Morsch indicated that the condominium plan was approved
for one hundred forty two (142) units and asked Mr. Dubbs how they were
going to choose which tenants would get a sign since there are only thirty
two (32) signs.
Mr. Dubbs indicated that once the building is fully occupied, less than forty
(40) percent of the tenants are going to be'able to have signage capability
and indicated that the sign program deslgneo bring outside
Physicians into the area who would Ilkeao establish theiff inesses.
Commissioner Morsch indlcate& if
Commission that the number of signs, a
then he is agreeable. -=
Mr. Dubbs indicated that
with Doctors, Physicians,
get signage on buld,ngs.
Vice -Chaff
mofttrate to the
to get''occupancy
and said that he has met
aye asked him if they can
he would prefer that this item not
asked Mr. Dubbs if this addresses
Dubbs §t# yes,rnd does not anticipate coming back to the
Chrn Gonzs indicated that he has no problem with this and the
more stdns then,16" t the better.
Passed and adopti the following Resolution:
"Resolution No. 2010 -33 — A Resolution of the Planning Commission of the
City of Lake Elsinore, California, approving Variance No. 2010 -02 to vary
from the maximum sign area provisions in association with additional wall
mounted signage for the Plaza at Lakeview Professional Office Complex.
MOTION was made by Commissioner O'Neal, seconded by Commissioner
Jordan and unanimously carried to approve Variance No. 2010 -02 to vary
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from the maximum sign area provisions in association with additional wall
mounted signage for the Plaza at Lakeview Professional Office Complex.
AYES: Gonzales, Jordan, Mendoza, Morsch, O'Neal
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Passed and adopted the following Resolution:
"Resolution No. 2010 -34 — A Resolution of the
City of Lake Elsinore, California, approving
2010 -02 to amend the previously approved U
existing Plaza at Lakeview Professional Offibi
31579 Canyon Estates Drive. PUP
MOTION was made by Vice-Cl
Commissioner Jordan and unanimou
Program No. 2010 -02 to amend the
Program for the existing Plaia� at, La
located at 31569 & 31579 Canvon< sa
AYES:
(5)
Commission of the
Sign Program No.
In Program for the
Located at 31569 &
mdoza, sec p by
o approve Uniform Sign
approved Uniform Sign
assional Office Complex
O'Neal
City Manager Brady provided an overview of the project and requested
that Senior Planner Harris review it with the Commission and answer
questions.
Senior Planner Harris presented the Staff Report to the Commission and
indicated that the applicant was present.
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The owner, Ted Kingston, gave his name and address. He indicated that
they have added a lot of lighting to the building and have done some
demolition to the back of the building, re- painted the building and has put
a neon sign up and is continuing to improve the building.
Commissioner Morsch indicated that he likes the sign but it exceeds the
allowable footage. He asked Mr. Kingston if he has any intensions of
upgrading or modernizing the existing freestanding neon sign.
Mr. Kingston indicated that the sign is close to 100 feet tall. He stated that
they would like to modernize the sign with a reader\=° rd in digital /color.
Commissioner Morsch indicated that he has had .a,,,number of complaints
about the wall mounted sign stating that itLt, oo bi' nd is on the side of
the building. He suggested outdoor li�ting and" work because
when driving by, the sign does not indicate that it is a Casio.
Mr. Kingston indicated that they a e in th � process of upgrading the
wording on the signage and the loca ion,of the >, 'b
Commissioner Morsch indicated that another, concern he had is that if the
Commission approves the` Varience it would�e setting precedence for all
other business signs coming into to the City` 'For example, if Cosco or
Lowes requested th„e same Ilowar>ce`Q en the Commission would be
allowing Cosco 7 have a 4,600 5q are foot sign, as well as Lowes to
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allow a 7,200, uare foot, Si etc°
Commissioner O'Nea�d City At"grney Leib old what the definition is of
a my
J and t111 that he be eves this is a mural and not a sign.
ty Attorney Leibold indicated that there is not a definition for a mural but
ere is a definition fo \, sign and she concurs with staffs determination
t this fits within; th ition of a sign.
Commissioner M ;�doza believes that this is a sign. He said that various
busin ess.owners`ii the City have spent a lot of money to have nice signs
and if this is'� "pp "roved it would be setting a precedence. He doesn't think
that a sign's is large looks good for the City. Further, this is a wall
mounted sign that can't be taken down but has to be painted over, if
necessary.
Commissioner Jordan stated that she is concerned that this would be
setting precedence. She is concerned about graffiti on the sign, and how
this is handled and thinks that the sign is too big.
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Mr. Kingston stated that since they have painted the sign and have made
upgrades to the back of the building, there has been no graffiti, and if
there is graffiti, he has made sure that it is removed immediately.
Vice - Chairman Mendoza indicated that the building does look a lot better
since it has been painted.
Mr. Kingston stated that the best advertising strategy to generate business
for the Casino is a reader board to view when driving on the freeway but
indicated that the City's Sign Ordinance does not allow this and the City
will not allow him to redo the sign without a special, 4iance.
Commissioner Morsch indicated that the ion would like to assist
in promoting his business but if the d Ism not to approve the
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variance, it does not necessarily mean�at they not entertain this
idea in the future. He also stated that would pre elan information
board in the future then what Mr. Kingston is presenting �.:
,��y
Chairman Gonzales asked Public Works Director Seumalo when Malaga
mq�'�' ? ?,:
Road is widened, will it affect this bulld
Public Works Director Seumald>r�dlcated ".t it would not affect the
building and stated that it well be eway th maidens.
Chairman G9 l6i Indicated at Fie has =ery rarely seen graffiti on
murals and s at high scho3� and would like to see murals on more
buildings and "'would like ; to see the`sgn /mural stay.
Passed
on No 2010 -35 A Resolution of the Planning Commission of the
Lake Elsmor Cah,Sirgia, approving Variance No. 2010 -01 to vary
►mum sign ea provisions in association with a wall mounted
Tinted signs the Lake Elsinore Hotel and Casino.
MOTION writ ode 1 y� O'Neal, and seconded by Chairman
Gonzales to approve `Variance No. 2010 -01 to vary from maximum sign area
provisions in association with a wall mounted freeway oriented sign for the
Lake Elsinore Hotel and Casino.
AYES: Gonzales, O'Neal
NOES: Vice - Chairman Mendoza, Commissioner Jordan,
Commissioner Morsch
ABSENT: None
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BUSINESS ITEMS
(6) Amendment and Restating Chapter 15.64 of the Lake Elsinore Municipal
Code regarding Flood Damage Prevention
Recommendation:
a. rrovlge star- wan comments pv
b. Receive and file draft ordinance.
Public Works Director Seumalo stated that t%9,10%% e of this item was for
I
staff to receive Planning Commission com,s� on the proposed
amendments to Section 15.64 of the Lake Municipal Code related
to flood damage prevention and provided an overview o taff Report.
Chairman Gonzales indicated tffi wring the 1980 flood&,, ; Lakepoint
(Mobile Home Park) got flooded an �"st of the residents did not relocate
their mobile homes until the City decl #lie area a disaster area. He
noted that the City moved�bry slowly In making the decision to declare the
area a disaster. He wanted to know if the Codewould affect this.
Public Works
existing buildi
with set elevai
1
floor to be at tli
above (the 100
the lake which is
Yd ` this Code does not affect
jildirigs = ,Ahat are already approved
affects new buildings.
this changes the elevation requirement from
eumalo stated no, and explained that currently, the
Hind the City and the requirement is for the finished
tlon' and the City is requiring it to be two (2) feet
elevation) and does not affect the elevation around
Comm issoner0'Neal asked how this affects the Summerly project
Public Works Director Seumalo indicated that the Summerly project was
grandfathered in even though construction hasn't commenced.
Commissioner O'Neal asked if this could be revisited and move the
elevation as higher.
Public Works Director Seumalo indicated this cannot be revisited under this
proposed ordinance change.
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Vice - Chairman Mendoza asked if this Ordinance change has to do with the
General Plan Update.
Public Works Director Seumalo indicated that this specifically has to do
with the City's participation regarding the Flood Insurance Program and for
every change, the City is consistent with FEMA regulations and the two (2)
foot freeboard, it earns the City points and for ever 500 accumulated
points, it reduces the residents who are required to have flood insurance by
five (5) percent.
Commissioner Morsch noted that it also qualifies the; =City for certain grants
and asked Mr. Seumalo how much the City received in grants in the last
fiscal year and how much the City is applyingr,.
Public Works Director Seumalo stated
related to flood grants and indicated t
than natural disasters such as the sty
Commissioner Jordan indicated tli
Ordinance, under Section 15.64.420
of other agencies, asked why 1 rmy
US Fish and Wildlife, and `RegloT
as notification.
Public Works ,<
included as n)
Commissioner
it states 'lowe?
clarification of v
/ublic Works % 1
filpor, I is to be i
floor' „not just ”
Commissioner,
people wl o"
STAFF COMMENTS
City cTlclinot receive funding
were rr"d available other
was reading through the
where it states notification
irtment of fish and Game,
ity Board are not included
I:K6t the reason they are not
specifically applies to flood.
sP_ noticed" several places in the Ordinance that
risteatl yi , shed floor elevation" and requested
stated In tie Ordinance.
or Seumalo stated that the reason it states "lowest
tent with FEMA's language and includes the "garage
space floor ".
indicated that this is a good program, particularly for
insurance in the area.
Public Works Director Seumalo indicated that Public Works has been receiving a
lot of questions regarding the timing of the signal light located at the intersection
of Lakeshore Drive and Riverside Drive and stated that it is being worked on. He
also indicated that in answer to Commissioner O'Neal's question, staff is applying
for a Tiger Grant for the signalization and widening of Gunnerson and Riverside
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Drive. He also congratulated the new Chairman, Vice - Chairman, and the new
Commissioners.
Senior Planner Harris congratulated the new Chairman, Vice - Chairman, and the
new Commissioners.
Office Specialist Porche' had no comments.
City Manager Brady congratulated the new Chairman, Vice- Chairman and
Commissioners. He indicated that the City is offering training to the new
Commissioner's and asked if the rest of the Commission would also like a
refresher course included with the training course.
Commissioner O'Neal asked if it would be appropr e it), eet with the City
Council members d uring the l training /refresh \ �urse to dit % s the philosophy
of what they would like to see.
City Manager Brady indicated that it is
members regarding their expectations
meetings.
City Attorney Leibold indicated
the Brown Act, the Political
Meeting Protocol, Procedural I:
the Commission would - likethe
the training.
The Commission
July 20
City ana er Bi
Co on mee
CITY ATTO,RNE'
City Attorney'L*
and indicated t
meet witFi; the Council
separating the two (2)
wol�c� entail guidelines regarding
3clos "�. nd Conflicts Analysis,
o
bO ".,19atil
��� n with Staff and asked if
� ti
a rusher course and to include
Class and Refresher Course on
that they would cancel the July 20 Planning
le Refresher Course /Study Session on that day.
ratulated the new Commissioners and the new Officers
:s forward to a successful and busy term.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Commissioner O'Neal welcomed the new Commissioners and stated they both
will be a good contribution to the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Jordan looks forward to her service on the Planning Commission,
and working with everyone and thanked everyone for their kind words.
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Commissioner Morsch thanked everyone for the opportunity to serve as Planning
Commissioner for the City and looks forward to the next four (4) years.
Commissioner Mendoza congratulated the two (2) new members of the Planning
Commission, thanked staff for all of their work, and congratulated the new
Chairman.
Chairman Gonzales congratulated the new Commissioners and the new Vice -
Chairman. He also thanked everyone for their confidence in voting him
Chairman.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come
Chairman Gonzales adjourned the meeting at
M.
ing Commission,
The City of Lake Elsinore Planning Co
is scheduled for Tuesday, July 20, at
183 N. Main Street, Lake Elsinore, CA
Respectfully Su
Attest:
Robert A. Brady
City Manager
Refresher Cou
in thakCultural
Session
cated at
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