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CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
MINUTES
APRIL 20, 2010
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Flores called the regular meeting of the Lake
held on Tuesday, April 20, 2010 to order at 6:00 p.m. in
183 N. Main Street, Lake Elsinore, CA 92530.
PRESENT: Chairman Flores, Vice - Chairman
Commissioner O'Neal, Commiss'
ABSENT:
Also present: City Manager Brady
Staff members present included:
Redevelopment Agency Analyst
Specialist Porche'.
Planning Commission
iral Center, located at
Mendoza,
Associate Planner Resendiz,
)irector Seumalo, and Office
The Pledge ofiAlldbianpe was led by Vice- Chairman Gonzales.
All Comm is§W,,gjTembers v * present.
Ms. Gale Robbins stated that she has been a Lake Elsinore resident for 17 years and
indicated that this was the first Planning Commission meeting that she has attended.
She stated that the reason that she was attending the meeting was that she read an
article in the paper stating that the City was contemplating banning chain link fences for
residential homes and questioned why the City would prohibit something that is
functional, practical, and that serves a purpose. She also believes that chain link
fencing is an affordable option and does not think it should be banned.
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CONSENT CALENDAR
None.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEM(S)
(1)
Automotive Center
Recommendation(s)
(a) Approve Resolution No. 2010 -
approval to adopt findings that the I
Species Habitat Conservation Plan (1
(b) Approve Resolution No. 2010-
approval of Mitigated Negative eeI
(c) Approve Resolution No.
approval of Tentative Parcel Map No
(d) Approve Resolution No. 2010 -_ racy
approval of Industrial D gp Review
am
ng to the City Council
sistent with the Multiple
City Council
ing to the:; City Council
to the City Council
City Manager Brady provided an over�!%y of tf�e:, project and requested that
Planning Consultant Coury reweuu the ect`with the Commission and answer
questions
Planning Consultant Co` provideii an overview of the project to the
Commission and mdlcthe applicant was in attendance and requested
modification to of the Conditions of Approval relative to the
constru'J" I n , urs Th, Condition read Monday through Friday and the applicant
requested to ° add Saturd °v to the Condition.
Th61\applicant, Carl gave his name and address. He requested that
Condition No. 37 regarding hours of operation be modified as previously
discussed and also A uested an extension due to the real estate market.
Vice- Chairm °a � �izales indicated that he visited the property site and the
flooding issuesve been resolved. He also said that he is in favor of extending
construction to include Saturdays.
Commissioner Mendoza stated that he is in favor of construction on Saturdays,
and indicated that the project looks good.
Commissioner O'Neal indicated to Mr. Johnson that it is a great project and also
has no problem with construction on Saturdays.
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Commissioner Zanelli indicated to Mr. Johnson that he has no problems with the
project and has no objection to extend construction hours to also include
Saturdays.
Chairman Flores asked if there would be sidewalks, curb and gutter on El Toro
cut off road.
Mr. Johnson indicated yes.
Passed and adopted the following Resolution:
"Resolution No. 2010 -15 — A Resolution of the Planning commission of the City of
Lake Elsinore, California, recommending to the City Council of the City of Lake
Elsinore Adoption of Findings that the project known ndustrial Project No.
2008 -01 is Consistent with the Western rside mul, 4 e Species Habitat
Conservation Plan.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Zanelli, seconded by Commissioner
Sao
Mendoza and unanimously carried recommending t6 /Ahe City Council of the City
of Lake Elsinore Adoption of findings that the project known as Industrial Project
No. 2008 -01 is consistent with th , R estern Riverside Multiple Species Habitat
Conservation Plan.
AYES:
Passed
ng
Zanelli.
"Reso /Lion No. 2010 -16� A Relution of the Planning Commission of the City of
Lake Elsinore, Californecomr►tending to the City Council of the City of Lake
Elsinore Adoption of M► igated Negative Declaration No. 2008 -09 for the Collier
Automotive Project.
MOTION was aiie- by Commissioner Zanelli, seconded by Commissioner
Mendoza and unanimously carried recommending to the City Council of the City
of Lake Elsinore Adoption of Mitigated Negative Declaration No. 2008 -09 for the
Collier Automotive Project.
AYES: Flores, Gonzales, O'Neal, Mendoza, Zanelli.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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Passed and adopted the following Resolution:
"Resolution No. 2010 -17 — A Resolution of the Planning Commission of the City of
Lake Elsinore, California, recommending to the City Council of the City of Lake
Elsinore, California approval of Tentative Parcel Map No. 35819.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Mendoza, seconded by Commissioner
Zanelli and unanimously carried recommending to the City Council of the City of
Lake Elsinore, California, Tentative Parcel Map No. 35819 >:
AYES: Flores, Gonzales, O'Neal,,Mendoza, Zanelli.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Passed and adopted the following
"Resolution No. 2010 -18 — A Resoldtion of the Plar ing Commission of the City of
Lake Elsinore, California, recommend►rJg to the C► ',Council of the City of Lake
Elsinore, California approval of Desrn Review fpr Ind serial Project No. 2008 -01.
MOTION was made tfy 4'dimmissioner., O'Neat�O conded by Commissioner
Mendoza and unanimously carried recommending to the City Council of the City
of Lake Elsinore, California, approval oYpesign Review for Industrial Project No.
2008 -01. D;
O'Neal, Mendoza, Zanelli.
NOES:
SENT:
City Attorn` Lelb676"noted to Chairman Flores for purposes of clarification to
include the modification to Condition No. 37.
Chairman Flores noted to include modification to Condition No. 37 to allow
construction to continue on Saturdays.
(2) Zoning Ordinance Text Amendment No. 2010 -02: The City of Lake Elsinore is
Material in Association with Detached Single - Family Residential Development
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Recommendation Adopt Resolution No. 2010- recommending to the City
Council approval of Zoning Ordinance Text Amendment No. 2010 -02 and the
adoption of the Negative Declaration.
City Manager Brady gave an overview of Zoning Ordinance Text Amendment No.
2010 -02 and the request for modification regarding Chain Link Fencing in the
City of Lake Elsinore and asked Associate Planner Resendiz to review the
request with the Commission.
Associate Planner Resendiz reviewed Zoning Ordina
2010 -02 regarding Chain Link Fencing in the City
Commission. ,a,
Text Amendment No.
Lake Elsinore to the
REQUEST TO SPEAK
Gail Robbins, stated her name and
unnecessary to prohibit chain link fe
aesthetically beautiful, it was design
" She indica
the City, and
sturdviand or
she thinks it is
i it may not be
Vice - Chairman Gonzales indicated that
take care of their fences, and�;`do s not
fencing• / %%-
Commissioner Mendoza_ag
of new development areas;.
Commisslone ,','O'Neal
states the kind of:.feni
y it depends on how residents
City should prohibit chain link
with the exception
Ordinance needs to be in place that
ie City finds acceptable, and lists the
Coi�ytnissioner=- Zanelli "'agreed with Commissioner Mendoza and indicated that
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rewlents that already have a chain link fence that needs to replaced, should be
ableto replace with the same type of fencing.
Chairman Flores as)Ced if the Home Owner's Association (HOA) prohibited chain
link fencing �4 et they ime of purchase, for example, residential areas such as
Canyon HIIIs Esfates, Rosetta Canyon, Tuscany Hills and other larger
developments.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that a proposed Ordinance would apply Citywide,
and an HOA would not be able to prohibit chain link fencing unless there is an
Ordinance in place.
Commissioner Zanelli suggested leaving this issue of chain link fencing to the
discretion to the Community Development Director based upon the location of
the home.
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(3)
The Planning Commission agreed with Commissioner Zanelli that approval of
chain link fencing would be approved administratively by the Community
Development Director.
Continuance of Status Report and review of Conditions for the existing Lake
Elsinore Motocross Facility Conditional Use Permit No. 2001 -05
Recommendation:
Staff recommends that the Planning Commission consider the Status Report for
the Conditions of Approval associated with Condition ah.Use Permit No. 2001 -05
and direct staff as deemed appropriate.
City Manager Brady gave an overview of the�S�a"tus Report, and indicated that
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the applicant, Randy Hiner was not av all abl to atteUAhe previous Planning
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Commission meeting but was currently in4i endance and 'asked Senior Planner
Harris to review this item with the PlanningCommission.
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Senior Planner Harris indicated that the" Comr i on did consider this item at
their last meeting of April 6` and Mr. Hiner w "as not able to attend that meeting
due to a family emergency sand, after discussion, the Commission voted to
continue the matter so that he, 'could be In att`ehdance to discuss the various
issues associated with this matte,
The applicant,
Commisslone y anelli as Mr. Hiker what the current status was of the
Conditions of Approval tog greed upon upon at the opening of the facility.
Mr. \ H n`er, ln> cated that he is in 'compliance with most of the Conditions of
Approval an q dlcatetl that he would discuss the status of the following
Conditions with fhb-Commission.
No. 2:
• Pe>t,,,it should "expire within three (3) years. He indicated that this was not
a valid Condilon due to the fact that there was no sunset clause on the
CUP.
Condition No. 3:
• The applicant shall demonstrate full compliance with all Conditions. He
indicated that they complied with all forty -four (44) Conditions.
Condition No. 4:
• The applicant shall be required to conduct Noise Studies annually. Mr.
Hiner indicated that he did not do them annually due to a cost standpoint
and noted that there were no complaints by residents in the area. He
indicated that (2) Noise Studies were done.
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Condition No. 5:
• The applicant shall be required to conduct Air Quality Studies, annually.
He indicated that an Air Quality Study was submitted after the first year of
operation.
Condition No. 6:
• Required to have twenty -six (26) employees on staff. Mr. Hiner indicated
that he had a verbal agreement with the previous Community
Development Director, Armondo Villa and Mr. Villa and he agreed that the
number of employees was extraneous and a verbal agreement was made
regarding the number of proper staffing.
Commission Mendoza indicated that this
the fact that verbal agreements are not bi
the City.
Chairman Flores requested the stz
Studies and additional studies were
Mr. Hiner indicated that
Management District.
Chairman Flores
costs that had be
Condition Na`7'
• It will be` =n
�erabove
y orp of El
the
deemed tc
J 1
Condition No. 8:
• Tf'P;annlir.
u
Is Rf Cond
of provide'
the air'ga-c
/A the
arding air
Mon S�`�gld be re- written due to
and thar.,Villa is no long with
No. 5 regar rig Air Quality
monitoring by the Air Quality
to date, there were no
to relocate the pay booth to an elevation of 1,267 msl
r Indicated °that it was his understanding from the Army
and the previous City Engineer, Ray O'Donnell, that if
i d be moved within seventy -two (72) hours, it was
gall post a cash bond in the amount of $5,000 to guarantee
of structures, artifacts, and equipment utilized at the site.
Chairman Flores asked staff if there is a cash bond in the amount of $5,000 to
guarantee the proper removal of the structures in place.
Senior Planner Harris indicated that there was a total of $40,000 in bonds which
was refunded to Mr. Hiner who subsequently put in $22,500 for environmental
review CRS 1483.
Commissioner Mendoza requested that the Commission review only those
Conditions that they have a concern about, and skip the Conditions that Mr.
Hiner is in compliance with.
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Condition No. 9:
• The applicant shall post a cash bond in the amount of $15,000 to
guarantee proper reversal of all grading at the site.
Mr. Hiner discussed in length the issues regarding the cash bonds that he
provided to the City.
Chairman Flores requested that City Attorney Leibold clarify the bond issue in
order to keep the CUP active.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that the decision „t keep the CUP is at the
discretion of the Planning Commission, and if Mr =Hiner appeals the decision to
City Council, the funds will be held on deposit through -out the operation of the
use.
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Commissioner Zanelli discussed the is of the cost of red iatlon of land for
adjacent land owners if the land and i soll are contaminated atZd ,,what the cost
trio,
would be to restore the land to the one �� condition. He also asked who would
be responsible for this; Corp of Engineers another Agency beyond the City's
o
scope.
Public Works Director Se
certain purpose, it is.alli
states that if the, applic#
original condition that the
would be,able to
can step in and fund this.
land is being used for a
cated that the Condition
returning the land to its
edition regarding road paving and if it
rescue purposes.
er indicated they put in a road that is an all weather, all errodible
for fire access and `has been approved by the Fire Department.
wanted to confirm that Mr. Hiner is in compliance
t study, traffic control plan, and bonds, etc.
Attorney Lelbg °nlicated that the City has recommended imposing a term of
years for the CUP and explained that it is a period review and the applicant can
revisit the appropriateness of the use and the compliance with the Conditions.
She noted that the revocation, suspension or modification requires a Public
Hearing and Mr. Hiner has a Business Item to consider compliance.
Mr. Hiner indicated that he received a letter from Rolfe Preisendanz, the previous
Community Development Director indicating that there was nothing apparent in
the letter that said that they would be brought back for compliance, he stated that
he understood the letter to read, submit a new CUP or the City will enforce to
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shut the Motocross Facility down. He indicated that it caused him to go into a
new CUP with new environmental concerns which cost him $80,000 to $100,000.
Commissioner Zanelli asked Mr. Hiner why the current issues that he is
discussing did not come up two (2) years ago, and asked him why there was not
a copy of insurance certificate on file.
Mr. Hiner stated that the certificates of insurance are currently on file.
Commissioner Mendoza indicated that Mr. Hiners CUP will not be in compliance
if all of the Conditions of Approval are not met, there he suggested bringing
this item back as a public meeting to confirm that is in compliance with all
Conditions. a
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Chairman Flores concurred with Commissioner Mendo nd indicated that he
would like to see the Motocross Facility st)J %peratmg mCity and asked Mr.
Hiner how long it would take to complyto =Elie Conditions discussed.
Mr. Hiner indicated that the Condition"hat ha'len 't been complied to relate to
grading /engineering. ,
Chairman Flores asked Seniot 0' ber, Harris if th e Environmental Impact Report
that was pending is now complel± d
Senior Planner Harris indicated tPh' the CEQA°document in association with the
new proposed permit to rngdify the` facility went out for review and is now closed,
and he mdicated that sta deceived comments back which they are responding
�.
r. Hiner if he still wanted to modify the CUP.
it stated yes.anft language needed to be modified. He indicated that
a verbal age ementvtivith the previous Fire Chief regarding Emergency
Technician (AMT) at the location.
Commissioner Zagdlli` indicated to Mr. Hiner that it is not within the Fire Chief's
authority to m' /ake decisions relating to Conditions and this should be presented
to the Planning`Gommission for approval.
Commissioner Zanelli asked Public Works Director Seumalo if grading plans
need to be submitted to Engineering.
Public Works Director Seumalo indicated that staff reviewed the Conditions and
there are no grading plans on record, however, they will be required because the
project is in the back basin area. He stated that the City is coordinating with
Army Corp of Engineers regarding elevation, and drainage patterns to make sure
the area is not impacting property owners.
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Commissioner Zanelli stated that he attended the last Lucas event and indicated
that upon leaving, there was no traffic control on Corydon which posed a traffic
hazard and recommended that any future events have a traffic plan.
Vice - Chairman Gonzales asked Mr. Hiner if the previous Fire Chief approved the
EMT at the facility in writing.
Mr. Hiner stated that it was a verbal agreement between him and the previous
Fire Chief.
Commissioner Zanelli asked Mr. Hiner about the I
Mr. Hiner indicated that the new CUP had a
using portable light standards, until permanc
Commissioner O'Neal had no
Commissioner Mendoza asked Mr.
was submitted.
Mr. Hiner indicated that that
Commissioner Mendoza ind
compliance so that the Moto
at the facility.
Guest for lighting and they were
hung Is","i Iled.
rings in the�'new CUP that
fire rings in the new CUP.
Niiner,that-611 Conditions need to be in
can continue operating.
MOTION was made' by Commissioner Mendoza, seconded by Commissioner
Commission nas' a d Pbl car r�wth p the
B usin e ss Ite toocomply Pla
with
�i, �% x
Modiflcati bxondilfons of Apprdval for the Motocross Facility.
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AYES. Flores, Gonzales, O'Neal, Mendoza, Zanelli.
Commissioner'Mbndoza indicated to Mr. Hiner that it would be in his best interest
to show intent to complete the modifications to the Conditions once this is
brought back to the Commission.
Commissioner O'Neal asked if the City accepts Surety Bonds.
City Manager Brady said the City accepts Surety Bonds.
Commissioner Zanelli asked why there was no advertising in the City for the
Sand Drag Races.
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Mr. Hiner stated that there was sand drag racing in the City, and it will be coming
back to the City.
STAFF COMMENTS
Public Works Director Seumalo reminded everyone that it is Administrative Appreciation
Day on April 21
Associate Planner Resendiz had no comments.
Redevelopment Agency Analyst Carlson had no
Senior Planner Harris had no comments.
Office Specialist Porche' had no comments.
City Manager Brady stated that it is a preasure to „�be back with,,the Planning
Commission.
CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
City Attorney Leibold had no cor
PLANNING COMMISSIGNCO
Vice - Chairman Gonzales askei
would be paved.
Public Works; Director Seumal<
process ough Cal -Trans Sri
schedufor July
Vice - Chairman Gonzales s er
cleaning out theaqutlet chaq 1.
blic Works Director Seumalo when four corners
indicated""that they are going through the permitting
bidding is scheduled for June, and construction is
Public Works Director Seumalo who is in charge of
Public Works Dlrector�S birrnalo indicated that it is Riverside County Flood Control, and
he would follow-up wif"em for clean out.
Commissioner Zanelli thanked Senior Planner Harris for all of his work with the
Motocross Facility.
Commissioner O'Neal requested clarification from City Manager Brady regarding
drought tolerant landscaping for the development of Pardee Homes.
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City Manager Brady indicated that Pardee Homes installed Smart Living landscape at
their model homes and suggested that the Commission take a look at the landscaping,
and if this is something that they like, Pardee Homes is ready to move forward.
Chairman Flores agreed with Commissioner Zanelli regarding advertisement of Special
Events happening in the City.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the Planning Commission Chairman
Flores adjourned the meeting at 7:37 p.m.
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commisslon„of the City of Lake Elsinore is
scheduled for Tuesday, May 4, 2010, at 6:00 p.m to the Cultural Center located at
183 N. Main Street, Lake Elsinore, CA 92530. g ' <„
Respectfully Submitted,
Kristine Herrington
Office Specialist
Attest:
Robert A.
City Mana
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