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CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING
MINUTES OF JULY 5, 2011
CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Gonzales called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Chairperson Gonzales led the Pledge of Allegiance
ROLL CALL
Present: Chairperson Gonzales
Vice Chairperson Jordan
Commissioner Mendoza
Commissioner Morsch
Commissioner O'Neal
Absent: None
Also present: City Manager Brady, R
Leibold, Associate Planne esendiz, `I
�wP �,���
Director Seumalo, and Offf& E oecialist
ing Mlw er Morelion, City Attorney
Wing ultant Coury, Public Works
None.
None.
1)
(Withdrawn on June 29.201 1)
Commissioner O'Neal requested that the City put together a list of historic homes
and buildings, and criteria for preserving them. City Manager Brady stated that
the Historical Society completed a list identifying historical properties in the City.
Commissioner Morsch requested that a Business Item be placed on a future
Planning Commission Agenda for discussion of historical homes and buildings in
the City. City Attorney Leibold stated that staff can put an item on the Planning
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Commission Agenda for purposes of discussion and for the Commission to
provide further direction. City Manager Brady stated that the Commission can
make recommendations to City Council regarding which homes and buildings
would be of significant historical value. Commissioner O'Neal suggested that the
Historic Society and the Women's Club also have input regarding this matter.
2) Amendment No. 1 to Residential Design Review No. 2010 -04 — A request
to add a building design to an approved housing project located within
Planning Areas 21 A, 21 B and 24 of Canyon Hills Specific Plan (Cypress)
Recommendation
It is recommended that the Planning
making findings that the project is e
resolution approving Amendment No. 1
2010 -04 based on the findings, exhibits
adopt a resolution
ie MSHCP and a
Desiqn Review No.
Planning Consultant Coury presented
The applicant, Sondra Harris, and the
American Homes addressed the Comr
Cunningham of Richmond
Commissioner Jordan stated that shP��%eM (1ke to see a ,roof variation in at least
one of the plans. She noted that there are �nalmmal arch tectural elements on the
Santa Barbara and French Country plans and x quested more enhanced
architectural elemer� on -each. She al "so stated= that the homes need to be
moved back on 101 , §316 and 3 6 to meetie required building setback variation.
Commissioner Mendoza noticed that the ',, of Draft Conditions"
form was ,not signed PI4 mg Consultant Coury stated that the applicant did
sign the form but a.; � IZetl / r not including it in the staff report.
Commrsstoner O'Neal'j %osked M,ss. Harris to discuss the green elements that
Richmond ' erican off 91 Ms. Harris stated that Richmond American is an
energy star certified buyer that builds energy efficient homes. She explained
the green opfiorts the cQ1npany offers.
Commissioner O'N�I asked Ms. Harris to discuss the real estate market and the
need for energy efficient homes. He asked why buyers are changing from two
story homes to one story homes. Ms. Harris discussed the real estate market
and what buyers are looking for in a home. She stated that buyers are very
conscious about spending money and want more for their money. She noted
that there is a need and desire for price point and single story homes.
Commissioner Morsch stated that he is glad to see more floor plans with single
story homes but doesn't like the architectural design. He stated that he would
like to see more architectural elements incorporated on the homes.
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Chairman Gonzales stated that he didn't see that the project had any outstanding
architectural design but would approve anyway.
Ms. Harris and Planning Consultant Coury addressed some of the
Commissioner's comments regarding the architectural design. Vice Chairperson
Jordan suggested enhancing the roofline and adding a tower element to some of
the plans to add some architectural relief. She noted that she would not approve
the project without some architectural enhancements.
Commissioner Mendoza stated that he didn't understand why the
Commissioner's were requesting architectural enhancers its to some of the
plans because the applicant is only implementing 2r ��o 1, es to an already
existing community that is aesthetically pleasing. a �
Ms. Harris stated that they are willing to w
architectural changes that the Commissioner
Richmond American wants to work with the,,
noted that they are having issues selling, ties(
adding too many features due to cost implt
stated that her concern is setting precedence
One of Vice Chairperson Jordan s, suggestioi
th therr make the
equestirf ;:She stated that
ity and the Commission, but
1 nities and cari't day yes to
ow V Chairperson Jordan
City with other developers.
,Jo add more veneer to the
French Country plan. Commissl�� 41 Morsch suggested more architectural
enhancement. Ms. Harris andul� �ssted that they would
accommodate some of the Colm rs- requests with architectural
issl
enhancement. :
Motion was mad
O'Neal to ado
Commission of the
project is p t fry
Motion gassed 5 ='
O'Neal,
made
to Residential 'I
and adding the
None.
airpersorl seconded by Commissioner
No. 201121:, a Resolution of the Planning
-Elsinore yCalifornia, adopting findings that the
fl&ZO,' ids Habitat Conservation Plan (MSHCP);
by Vice Chairperson Jordan, seconded by Commissioner
e Rdb�olutidn No. 2011 -22, a Resolution of the Planning
City Lake Elsinore, California, approving Amendment No. 1
q F No. 2010 -04, adding veneer to the French Country
J1e gable on the Santa Barbara elevation.
STAFF COMMENTS
Planning Manager Morelion stated that the Planning Commissioner's mailboxes
will remain at the same location in Planning but will eventually be moved to the
City Clerk's office. Commissioner O'Neal asked why the mailboxes are being
relocated to the City Clerk's office. City Manager Brady stated that the City is
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trying to keep the financial department's traffic to a minimum and also to keep all
mailboxes of all appointed officials in one location. Commissioner Morsch stated
that the Planning Commissioner's are just as credible as other City employees
and for convenience purposes suggested keeping the Commissioner's mailboxes
in the same location in the Planning Division. City Manager Brady stated that
their intension wasn't to offend anyone.
COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Chairman Gonzales asked Public Works Director Seumalo if he addressed the
drainage issues at his neighbor's property. Director addressed Chairman
Gonzales's concerns.
Commissioner Mendoza requested that an Item be" the next Planning
Commission Agenda to rescind the action that the Commis n took at the June
21, Planning Commission meeting regarding re- organizati6 gf the Planning
Commission. He stated that the Planning Commission should feconsider and
take new action for re- organization an& requested that dlsclo,pure of all
Commissioners' tenure, the positions they hetel and the durafon of their
held positions be included in the meeting minut M
Chairman Gonzales stated that :,, a was resigning' s Chairman, effective
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immediately. City Attorney Lelbotf staked, that thi3lon still leaves Vice
Chairperson Jordan as Vice Chairperson with - no actin Chairperson, thereby,
placing on the next age ,,,,,,, a re- organizat o�106f t 'ning Commission.
Commissioner O'Neal asked�[?irector Setrnalo if anything has been done about
the speed limit ori Gannersan Street Dira.ctor Seumalo stated that a speed
study was ordered to tabhsh eed limit and the investigation will include
sight distance
None.
There being no further business to come before the Planning Commission,
Chairperson Gonzales adjourned the meeting at 7:11 p.m. to the next regular
meeting of the Planning Commission of the City of Lake Elsinore to be held on
Tuesday, July 19, 2011, at 6:00 p.m. at the Cultural Center located at
183 N. Main Street, Lake Elsinore, California.
Shelly Jordan
Vice Chairperson
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Attest:
Warren Morelion
Planning Manager
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