HomeMy WebLinkAbout02-21-2012 NAHCITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING
MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 21, 2012
CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Jordan called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Gonzales led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chairperson Jordan
Vice Chairperson O'Neal
Commissioner Blake
Commissioner Gonzales
Commissioner Morsch
Absent: None
Also present: Planning Manager Morelion, Public Works Director Seumalo, City
Attorney Leibold, Planning Consultant Coury, and Office Specialist Herrington.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON AGENDIZED ITEMS - 3 MINUTES
Patti Hatch, resident of Canyon Hills, stated that the dirt road from Canyon Way
to Bundy Canyon Road within Canyon Hills has become a short cut for drivers
and is difficult and dangerous to drive on. She is aware that the dirt road is in the
boundaries of Menifee and Wildomar and noted that the City of Wildomar stated
that they do not have the funding to pave the road. Director of Public Works
Seumalo stated that he has spoken to the City of Menifee who will be paving the
road. He wasn't sure when this would happen, therefore, he would follow up with
the City of Menifee as to the date of completion.
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM(S)
1. Approval of Planning Commission Minutes
Recommendation: Approve the following Minute(s)
• January 17, 2012
Motion by Commissioner Gonzales, seconded by Chairperson Jordan, to
approve the Planning Commission Minutes of February 15, 2011; Motion passed
by 4-0-1 with Vice Chairperson O'Neal abstaining.
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PUBLIC HEARING ITEM(S)
2. Conditional Use Permit No. 2011-11 - A Request to operate a tattoo
establishment in approximately 1,800 square feet of leased space within
the Westlake Village Commercial Center located at 31712 Casino Drive,
Suite 1 C
Recommendation:
• Adopt a resolution adopting findings that the project is
consistent with the Multiple Species Habitat Conservation Plan;
and,
• Adopt a resolution approving Conditional Use Permit No. 2011-
11 for the operation of a tattoo establishment based on the
findings, exhibits, and proposed conditions of approval.
Planning Consultant Coury presented the staff report. He stated that the
applicant is requesting a conditional use permit to operate a tattoo and a body
piercing business and he would like to request to have both under one
conditional use permit (CUP) so that he doesn't have to come back to the
Commission again for approval for the body piercing. He also noted that by
adding the body piercing, the conditions remain the same.
Vice Chairperson O'Neal asked City Attorney Leibold to clarify the legal protocol
regarding the consideration of having both the tattoo and body piercing business
under one CUP. He stated that he thought that they both could be under one
CUP so that the applicant doesn't have to come back again for approval. City
Attorney Leibold explained the legal protocol to the Commission. Chairperson
Jordan agreed with Vice Chairperson O'Neal to have both businesses under one
CUP.
The applicant, Mike Metzger of Canyon Lake, addressed the Commission.
Commissioner Blake asked Mr. Metzger what kind of signage he plans on putting
up. Mr. Metzger explained where the sign would be placed, and stated that he
would follow the City's code requirements regarding the size of the sign.
Commissioner Blake asked Mr. Metzger who regulates tattoo businesses. Mr.
Metzger stated that the County Health Department in the City of Riverside.
Commissioner Blake asked what kind of sterilization is used when doing tattoos.
Mr. Metzger stated that all the equipment he uses is packaged in sterile
packages and disposed of after use.
Vice Chairperson O'Neal stated that he's pleased that Mr. Metzger chose Lake
Elsinore to have his business and wishes him much luck and success.
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Commissioner Morsch stated that the property manager did a good job notifying
the tenants within the commercial center and addressing any issues. He stated
that he is glad that Mr. Metzger is opening his business in the City.
Motion was made by Commissioner Morsch, seconded by Commissioner
Gonzales to adopt Resolution No. 2012-06, a Resolution of the Planning
Commission of the City of Lake Elsinore, California, adopting findings that the
project is consistent with the Multiple Species Habitat Conservation Plan
(MSHCP); Motion passed 5-0.
Motion was made by Vice Chairperson O'Neal, seconded by Commissioner
Morsch to adopt Resolution No. 2012-07, a Resolution of the Planning
Commission of the City of Lake Elsinore, California, approving Conditional Use
Permit No. 2011-11 for a tattoo establishment located at 31712 Casino Drive,
Suite 1C; Motion passed 5-0.
Vice Chairperson O'Neal stated he doesn't believe that tattoo establishments
need a CUP. He indicated that he doesn't think tattoo establishments should pay
$5,000 dollars for a CUP application.
3. Residential Design Review No. 2011-06 - A request by Pardee Homes for
approval of building designs for a total of 200 single family detached
residential units, including a model home complex and related
improvements, for a housing project located within Planning Areas 25 and
30B of Canyon Hills Specific Plan (Living Smart Hillside)
Recommendation:
It is recommended that the Planning Commission adopt a resolution
making findings that the project is exempt from the MSHCP and a
resolution approving Residential Design Review No. 2011-06 based on
the findings, exhibits and conditions of approval.
Planning Consultant Coury presented the staff report.
Chairperson Jordan asked why staff didn't provide the Commission with color
renderings for some of the plans and elevations. Planning Consultant Coury
stated that the applicant included color renderings for all plans accept the Italian
Style. Chairperson Jordan asked if the Commission should be receiving color
renderings for all plans and elevations as part of the design review criteria.
Planning Manager Morelion stated that all color renderings are part of the design
review criteria but noted that it was staff and the applicant's fault that this
particular rendering wasn't included. He said he would make sure to include all
color renderings in the future.
Chairperson Jordan asked why lots 40, 48, 60, 107, 108, 34, and 69 did not have
architectural enhancements. She also noted that the resolution and the
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conditions reference both SF-2 and SF-3 and wasn't sure which one was correct.
Planning Consultant Coury stated SF-2 is the correct reference. Also, he
indicated that in Plan 1, there are no variations in the roof lines.
The applicant, Mike Taylor, Pardee Homes, stated that he can provide color
renderings of the plans with the Commission didn't receive to make sure that
they are satisfied with the color schemes. He also stated that they are unable to
enhance the architectural elevations due to the cost.
Commissioner Morsch suggested that the applicant provide color renderings
electronically, due to the expense of printing color copies. Planning Manager
Morelion stated that currently staff provides copies of the Agenda and reports to
the Commission, as well as uploading onto the City's website. He noted that he
believes the City will eventually be moving toward providing all electronically.
Vice Chairperson O'Neal stated that he appreciates the Living Smart product and
likes the neighborhood street scene. He stated he is happy to approve the
project.
Commissioner Morsch appreciates the outreach that Pardee Homes has done
and is in favor of the project.
Commissioner Gonzales stated that he loves the project and thinks the Living
Smart product is great.
Commissioner Blake stated that he walked the site and thinks Pardee Homes
has done a great job. He stated that he likes their xeriscape, energy
conservation homes, and flexibility with the floor plan and color schemes.
Vice Chairperson Jordan stated that she noticed there is the same plan and
elevation across the street from each other and asked if this allowed in the
Specific Plan. Planning Consultant Coury stated that according to the City's
design guidelines this is permitted.
Commissioner Blake asked how many homes they build in a phase. Mr. Taylor
stated about 4.
Chairperson Jordan requested that they vary the elevations so that they are not
all the same. Mr. Taylor stated that the elevations would vary.
Commissioner Blake asked about the color schemes.
Ron Nugroho with Pardee Homes explained the color schemes of each
elevation.
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Chairperson Jordan stated that overall, she liked the product and park and would
approve the project. Commissioner Blake stated that he appreciated
Chairperson Jordan's comments.
Motion was made by Commissioner Morsch, seconded by Commissioner Blake
to adopt Resolution No. 2012-08, a Resolution of the Planning Commission of
the City of Lake Elsinore, California, adopting findings that the project is exempt
from the Multiple Species Habitat Conservation Plan (MSHCP); Motion passed
5-0.
Motion was made by Vice Chairperson O'Neal, seconded by Commissioner
Blake to adopt Resolution No. 2012-09, a Resolution of the Planning
Commission of the City of Lake Elsinore, California, approving Residential
Design Review No. 2011-06, with the correction to Section 3-1 for SF-2 to
replace SF-3; Motion passed 5-0.
4. Residential Design Review No. 2012-01, Conditional Use Permit No.
2012-02, and a revision to Tentative Parcel Map No. 34442 -A request by
Pardee Homes for approval of buildings designs for 73 single family
detached residential condominium units, including a model home complex
and related improvements, for a housing project located within Planning
Area 36 of Canyon Hills Specific Plan (Living Smart)
Recommendation:
It is recommended that the Planning Commission adopt a resolution
making findings that the project is exempt from the MSHCP, a resolution
approving Conditional Use Permit No. 2012-02, a resolution approving
Residential Design Review No. 2012-01 and a resolution recommending
that the City Council approve the revision to Tentative Parcel Map No.
34442, for the Living Smart Condominium Community based on the
findings, exhibits and conditions of approval.
Planning Consultant Coury presented the staff report.
Chairperson Jordan stated that she is excited about this product.
Mike Taylor, Pardee Homes, addressed the Commission.
Commissioner Blake asked how many lots were originally approved for the
condo project. Planning Consultant Coury stated 227 and it is now proposed for
73. He also stated the site plan can accommodate double the number of units
with the acreage that is there.
Commissioner Gonzales stated that he thinks it's a good project.
Commissioner Morsch requested clarification of the layout of the parking lot, the
sidewalks and cross sections. Mr. Taylor clarified the designs.
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Commissioner Morsch read Section 66426 of the Subdivision Map Act and stated
that it was his interpretation that this section would require a tract map to create
73 condominium units rather than the proposed parcel map. Rather than delay
the project, he requested adding a condition to the conditions of approval to put
the burden of proof in the hands of developers rather than to the City, as far as
the need for a tract map vs. parcel map and suggested the following wording:
"The applicant shall be responsible to comply with all sections of the State
Subdivision Map Act and City Municipal Code regarding filing and recording of
the condominium plan".
Commissioner Morsch noted that Condition No.'s 68 and 190 were duplicates
and requested Director Seumalo to review them.
Public Works Director Seumalo stated that he would review all conditions and
delete the duplicates.
Vice Chairman O'Neal requested that City Attorney Leibold explain the
Subdivision Map Act regarding condominium tract maps and parcel maps. City
Attorney Leibold explained to the Commission.
Chairperson Jordan requested that the applicant work with staff regarding the
elevations and plot plans. Also, she stated that she liked the architecture on all
the plans but the Spanish and asked if the Spanish architecture could be
enhanced. Mr. Taylor stated that there was no funding available to change the
design for this. Mr. Nugroho described the architecture on the Spanish plan and
cost.
Motion was made by Vice Chairperson O'Neal, seconded by Commissioner
Morsch to adopt Resolution No. 2012-10, a Resolution of the Planning
Commission of the City of Lake Elsinore, California, adopting findings that the
project is exempt from the Multiple Species Habitat Conservation Plan (MSHCP);
Motion passed 5-0.
Motion was made by Commissioner Morsch, seconded by Vice Chairperson
O'Neal to approve Resolution No. 2012-11, a Resolution of the Planning
Commission of the City of Lake Elsinore, California, approving Conditional Use
Permit No. 2012-02.
Motion was made by Commissioner Morsch, seconded by Vice Chairperson
O'Neal to approve Resolution No. 2012-12, a Resolution of the Planning
Commission of the City of Lake Elsinore, California, approving Residential
Design Review No. 2012-01.
Motion was made by Vice Chairperson O'Neal, seconded by Commissioner
Morsch to approve Resolution No. 2012-13, a Resolution of the Planning
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Commission of the City of lake Elsinore, California, recommending to the City
Council approval of a revision to Tentative Parcel Map No. 34442. Also, revise
the first paragraph of the resolution to state four lots instead of two lots, and
revise engineering conditions as mentioned.
None.
STAFF'S COMMENTS
Director Seumalo thanked Commissioner Morsch for meeting with staff regarding
the Subdivision Map Act.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Commissioner Gonzales stated that the new Stater Bros hired 70 new
employees.
Commissioner Morsch thanked everyone who participated at the "Clean
Extreme" function located at the Army, Navy Academy in Lake Elsinore and
noted that 400 people showed up. He also stated that the next Boat Dock
Standards Public Hearing will be held on March 7, 2012.
Commissioner O'Neal stated that he likes working with staff but is apologizing in
advance for what he is going to say at the City Council meeting to be held on
March 13, 2012, regarding the MCA Reclamation Plan Appeal.
CITY ATTORNEY'S COMMENTS
None.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the Planning Commission,
Chairperson Jordan adjourned the meeting at 7:50 p.m. The next regular
meeting of the Planning Commission of the City of Lake Elsinore will be held on
Tuesday, March 6, 2012, at 6:00 p.m. at the Cultural C nter located at
183 N. Main Street, Lake Elsinore, California.
Shelly J rda
Chairperson
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Warren Morelion
Planning Manager