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LA E LLS I NO & E
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DREAM EXTREME,
REPORT TO CITY COUNCIL
TO: HONORABLE MAYOR
AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
FROM: ROBERT A. BRADY
CITY MANAGER
DATE: DECEMBER 23, 2008
SUBJECT: CONSIDERATION OF AN APPEAL OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION'S DECISION RELATIVE TO PUBLIC
CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY FINDINGS FOR OFF -
PREMISE ALCOHOL SALES FROM A PROPOSED
CONVENIENCE STORE LOCATED WITHIN THE
VISCAYA VILLAGE SHOPPING CENTER LOCATED AT
16665 LAKESHORE DRIVE, SUITE `A' (APN: 379 -470-
083).
Background
At a regularly scheduled public meeting on October 7, 2008, the Planning Commission,
by a vote of 3 -1 (with one abstention) found that alcohol sales in conjunction with a
convenience store at the Viscaya Village Shopping Center, 16665 Lakeshore Drive,
would not serve public convenience and necessity (PCN).
The State of California Business and Professions Code mandates that off - premise
alcohol sales establishments that are located within a census tract that is over
concentrated with similar alcohol related uses obtain a Public Convenience and
Necessity (PCN) finding from the local jurisdiction. According to the State Department of
Alcoholic Beverage Control (ABC), the Viscaya Village Center property is located in a
census tract (No. 06065043005) which contains five (5) off- premise alcohol
establishment licenses. ABC guidelines only allows for three (3) off - premise alcohol
establishments within this census tract.
The applicant appealed the Planning Commission's PCN determination and at the
regularly scheduled City Council meeting of October 28, 2008, it was voted unanimously
to continue this item. The continuance was made in order to allow the applicant time to
conduct outreach with the Viscaya Homeowners Association and address their
concerns regarding the proposed sale of off - premise alcohol from the yet- to -be- opened
convenience store adjacent to their residential development. The applicant attended the
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Viscaya Village PCN Appeal
December 23, 2008
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November 13, 2008 Viscaya Homeowners Association meeting, which was attended by
approximately 25 people, and presented information regarding the request and the
business operation.
The Planning Commission staff report, original City Council staff report, draft meeting
minutes, the applicant's appeal, and correspondence /maps from the Lake Elsinore
Police Department (Riverside County Sheriff) are attached for reference.
Correspondence received from neighbors regarding this request is also attached.
Recommendation
1. Consider the appeal and either uphold the Planning Commission's decision to deny
the Public Convenience and Necessity request; or
2. Overturn the Planning Commission's decision and approve the Public Convenience
and Necessity request.
Prepared by: Tom Weiner
Acting Director of Community Development
Approved by: Robert A. Brady
City Manager
Attachments
1. Vicinity Map (with census tract boundaries)
2. Site Plan
3. Appeal of Planning Commission Action Form and Letter from Applicant
4. City Council Staff Report from October 28, 2008
5. Minutes (Excerpt) from October 28, 2008 City Council Meeting
6. Planning Commission Staff Report from October 7, 2008 (Including Sheriff
Correspondence)
7. Draft Minutes (Excerpt) from October 7, 2008 Planning Commission Meeting
8. Correspondence from Neighbors
9. Map of ABC License Locations within 1 /2 Mile
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Attachment 3
For Official RC en ED
CITY OF
LAIKL oLSINOIU Date Received:
CT 1 2008
DREAM EXTREME Received 4 1 _ =�
„ Cl •LERKS OFFICE
Date Fee Paid:
City Clerk's Office
130 S. Main Street, Lake Elsinore, CA
(951) 674 -3124, Ext. 269
APPEAL OF PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION FORM
► Policv 100 - 8: The purpose of this Policy is to provide a standardized procedure for consideration of appeals
from Planning Commission decisions. Within 15 calendar days of a Planning Commission decision, any
person may appeal a decision to the City Council by filing this form and submitting a $200 fee. A copy of this
policy is attached with further important information.
Applicant Information
Name: Tom O'Meara Date: October, 9 2008
Mailing Address: 18800 Von Karman Avenue, Suite 100
City: Irvine State: CA Zip Code: 92612
Phone No.: Fax No.: E -Mail:
Subject of Appeal Information
Subject of Appeal: A Request for Public Convenience & Necessity Findings for Off- premise
Alcohol Sales from a Proposed Convenience Store
Project No.(s):
Project Applicant: Tom O'Meara
Project Location: 16665 Lakeshore Drive (At the corner of Viscaya Street & Lakeshore Drive)
Date of Planning Commission Action: October 7, 2008
I, the undersigned, hereby appeal the above action of approval /denial by the Lake Elsinore Planning
Commission, for the following reasons: (Please cite specific action being appealed.) Attach additional
pages as needed.
See attached memo
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TIMBERLINE COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE
Memorandum
To: City of Lake Elsinore
From: Timberline Commercial
Date: October 9, 2008
Subject: Planning commission Appeal
On, October 7, 2008 the Planning Commission denied our request for public
convenience and necessity findings for off - premise alcohol sales from a proposed
Convenience store located within the Viscaya Shopping Center located at 16665
Lakeshore Drive, Suite A, Lake Elsinore.
The grounds given by the Commission for the denial was the overconcentration of
existing licenses within the census tract. Per ABC guidelines it is recommended
that there be three (3) licenses within census tract 0430.05. There currently exists
5 licenses.
The Viscaya Shopping Center exists within census tract 0430.05. There are two
adjacent census tracts, 0430.01 and 0430.06, both within the City of Lake Elsinore.
Census tract 0430.01 currently has eight (8) existing licenses where it is
recommended to have three (3). Census tract 0430.06 currently has eighteen (18)
existing licenses and is recommended to have three (3). The Viscaya Village
Shopping Center census tract encompasses a large part of the `four corners' retail
corridor. The `four corners' area is a major commercial district of Lake Elsinore
which contains the majority of the retail products and services which service the
population on the north side of Lake Elsinore. Considering that our census tract
encompasses such a strong commercial center within the City and that we are only
66% (3 recommended; 5 exist) over the allowed number of licenses versus 166% (3
recommended; 8 exist) and 500% (3 recommended; 18 exist) respectively for the
adjacent census tracts, we feel that there is not an undue concentration.
Additionally, the new Rite Aid at the corner of Lakeshore Drive and Machado Street,
which opened in 2008, falls within our census tract but yet was granted a PCN letter
from the Planning Commission despite any of the very same concerns over license
saturation.
We do not feel that it is in the City's best interest to discriminate between a large
national retailer and a hard working local small business owner. The prospective
convenience store tenant for Viscaya, Norma Aziz, has multiple existing stores, is
experienced and has never had an issue with their local police or the ABC. For the
18800 Von Karmen Ave., Suite 100, Irvine, CA 92612
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October 9, 2008
City to issue Rite Aid a PCN letter in an oversaturated census tract and then to
deny Norma Aziz a PCN finding on the grounds that the tract is oversaturated sets
an unfortunate precedent.
The proposed retail operation is to be 1,920 square foot convenience store carrying
many of your daily need grocery items. The store will also include a counter for
freshly made deli sandwiches, a coffee and fountain drink station as well as
speciality items such as salads, fruits, and prepackaged meals. These types of
items all have a proven tract record of success in a "convenient" location. Alcohol
sales within the store will not be more than 15% (This is under 300 square feet).
The Landlord and the Tenant will work together to assure that there is adequate
security. This will include but not be limited to, top of the line video surveillance
sustems, reinforced security doors when the store is not open and limited coverings
on the windows to allow for line of sight into the store. The tenant suite has glass
storefronts with windows on two sides to allow any law enforcement officials to see
most areas on the interior when driving by the location.
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CITY of Attachment 4
LAKE LsJNo E
DREAM EXTREME,
REPORT TO CITY COUNCIL
TO: HONORABLE MAYOR
AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL
FROM: ROBERT A. BRADY
CITY MANAGER
DATE: OCTOBER 28, 2008 •
SUBJECT: CONSIDERATION OF AN APPEAL OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION'S DECISION RELATIVE TO PUBLIC
CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY FINDINGS FOR OFF -
PREMISE ALCOHOL SALES FROM A PROPOSED
CONVENIENCE STORE LOCATED WITHIN THE
VISCAYA VILLAGE SHOPPING CENTER LOCATED AT
16665 LAKESHORE DRIVE, SUITE 'A' (APN: 379 -470-
083).
Background
-At-a regularly scheduled public meeting on October 7, 2008, the Planning Commission,
by a vote of 3 -1 (with one abstention) found that alcohol sales in conjunction with a
convenience store at the Viscaya Village Shopping Center, 16665 Lakeshore Drive,
would not serve public convenience and necessity (PCN).
The State of California Business and Professions Code mandates that off - premise
alcohol sales establishments that are located within a census tract that is over
concentrated with similar alcohol related uses obtain a Public Convenience and
Necessity (PCN) finding from the local jurisdiction. According to the State Department of
Alcoholic Beverage Control (ABC), the Viscaya Village Center property is located in a
census tract (No. 06065043005) which contains five (5) off - premise alcohol
establishment licenses. ABC guidelines only allows for three (3) off - premise alcohol
establishments within this census tract.
Discussion
The Planning Commission heard the staff report and ,took testimony from three (3)
Individuals including; the business owner, the property owner, and a member of the
adjacent residential property's homeowner association (Viscaya HOA). The applicant
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Viscaya Village PCN Appeal
October 28, 2008 •
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and property owner spoke in favor of the request. The Viscaya HOA member spoke
against the request.
The business owner (Norma Aziz) stated that she has been in the business for seven
years and has never had any problems with law enforcement or ABC. The property
owner (Tom O'Meara, Timberline) indicated that the current economy has been difficult
and that the convenience store business owner has a good history with ABC. The
Viscaya HOA member (Marylou Veytia) indicated that there were too many businesses
in the area that currently sell alcohol. She also related that there was no problem with a
convenience store at the location, however that alcohol sales were a concern.
At the conclusion of the testimony, the Planning Commission denied the PCN request
by a vote of 3 -1 (Zanelli, Gonzales, and Mendoza voting no; O'Neal voting yes, and
Flores abstaining).
The Planning Commission staff report, draft meeting minutes, and correspondence from
the Lake Elsinore Police Department (Riverside County Sheriff) are attached for
reference.
Recommendation
1. Consider the appeal and either uphold the Planning Commission's decision to deny
the Public Convenience and Necessity request; or
2. Overturn the Planning Commission's decision and approve the Public Convenience
and Necessity request.
Prepared by: Tom Weiner.
Acting Director of Community Development
Approved by: Robert A. Brad
City Manager
Attachments
1. Vicinity Map (with census tract boundaries)
2. Site Plan
3. Planning Commission Staff Report from October 7, 2008 (Including Sheriff
Correspondence)
4. Draft Minutes (Excerpt) from October 7, 2008 Planning Commission Meeting
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Attachment 5
APPEAL(S)
(13) Consideration of an Appeal of the Planning Commission's decision Relative to
Public Convenience and Necessity Findings for Off- Premise Alcohol Sales from a
Proposed Convenience Store Located within the Viscaya Village Shopping
Center Located at 16665 Lakeshore Drive, Suite 'A' (APN: 379- 470 -083)
Recommendations:
1. Consider the appeal and either uphold the Planning Commission's decision to
deny the Public Convenience and Necessity request; or
2. Overturn the Planning Commission's decision and approve the Public
Convenience and Necessity request.
Attorney Leibold advised there was a request to continue this item.
Cynthia Reynoso addressed Council in opposition to the location of a
liquor /convenience store immediately adjacent to the Viscaya community. She
indicated there are already six establishments, three bars and two restaurants who
already sell alcohol. She did not feel that another liquor establishment was necessary.
Mary Lou Veytia, Vice President of the Viscaya Home Owners Association expressed
the HOA's opposition to the establishment of another liquor store in their area. She
indicated they have several pictures depicting the sidewalks littered with empty liquor
bottles and have had issues with people being passed out on the sidewalks as well as
having several calls made to the Police Department for drunk and lewd behavior. They
felt they are overly saturated with liquor stores.
Councilman Magee stated that he met with the applicant because of the problems being
experienced by the residents of the Viscaya community. He confirmed with the owner
that the establishment had not met with the Home Owners Association to resolve the
issues and suggested they continue the appeal until they have met with the
homeowners to resolve the concerns and issues addressed by the Homeowners
Association.
Councilman Magee moved to continue this item off calendar and direct the applicant to
meet with the Property Owner Association and bring this item back with the results;
second by Mayor Pro Tem Kelley.
The following vote resulted:
AYES: MAYOR HICKMAN
MAYOR PRO TEM KELLEY
COUNCILMAN BUCKLEY
COUNCILMAN MAGEE
COUNCILMAN SCHIFFNER
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NOES: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
• USINESS ITEM(S)
(14 Second Reading — Adoption of Ordinance No. 1256, Adding Chapter 5.80 to the
ake Elsinore Municipal Code Regarding Tree Preservation
R- ommendation: Waive further reading and adopt Ordinance No. 1256, adding
cha• -r 5.80 to the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code regarding Tree Preservation.
It was moved Mayor Pro Tem Kelley, and seconded by Councilman Schiffner to
adopt Ordinance o. 1256 adding Chapter 5.80 to the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code.
The following roll cal ote resulted:
AYES: COUNCIL 4N BUCKLEY
COUNCILMA MAGEE
COUNCILMA •CHIFFNER
MAYOR PRO T KELLEY
MAYOR HICKMA
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
(15) Second Reading — Adoption of Ordinan No. 1257, Adding Chapter 8.13 to the
Lake Elsinore Municipal Code Regarding ' , :ulation of Solicitation
Recommendation: Waive further Reading . d adopt Ordinance No. 1257,
adding Chapter 8.13 to the Lake Elsinore Muni. •al Code regarding Regulation
of Solicitation.
It was moved by Mayor Pro Tem Kelley; second by Coun• an Schiffner to adopt
Ordinance No. 1257 adding Chapter 8.13 to the Lake Elsinore ► • icipal Code.
The following roll call vote resulted:
AYES: COUNCILMAN BUCKLEY
COUNCILMAN MAGEE
COUNCILMAN SCHIFFNER
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Attachment 6
LADE 6LSINOR
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DREAM EXT RE ME.
REPORT TO PLANNING COMMISSION
TO: HONORABLE CHAIRMAN
AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
FROM: TOM WEINER,
ACTING DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
DATE: OCTOBER 7, 2008
PROJECT TITLE: A REQUEST FOR PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND
NECESSITY FINDINGS FOR OFF - PREMISE
ALCOHOL SALES FROM A PROPOSED
CONVENIENCE STORE LOCATED WITHIN THE
VISCAYA VILLAGE SHOPPING CENTER LOCATED
AT 16665 LAKESHORE DRIVE, SUITE `A' (APN: 379-
470 -083).
OWNER/APPLICANT: TOM O'MEARA, TIMBERLINE COMMERCIAL REAL
ESTATE. 18800 VON KARMAN AVENUE, SUITE 180
IRVINE, CA 92612
Background and Discussion
In March of 2006, the Planning Commission and City Council approved of entitlements for
the Viscaya Village Shopping Center located at 16665 Lakeshore Drive. The establishment
of several tenant spaces within the commercial center was included as part of the approval.
The State of California Business and Professions Code mandates that off - premise alcohol
sales establishments that are located within a census tract that is over concentrated with
similar alcohol related uses obtain a Public Convenience and Necessity (PCN) finding from
the local jurisdiction. According to ABC, the Viscaya Village Center store is located in a
census tract (No. 06065043005) which contains five (5) off - premise alcohol establishment
licenses. State Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control guidelines only allows for three
(3) off - premise alcohol establishments within this census tract.
Agenda Ilea} No. 11
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REPORT
OCTOBER 7, 2008
PCN VISACAYA VILLAGE
Typically, the PCN findings are reflected within an approved resolution for a project
approval. However, since this type of alcohol related use (convenience store) was not
anticipated at the time the commercial center was approved, a resolution containing a
finding of Public Convenience and Necessity was never generated. In turn, in order for the
proposed convenience store to sell off - premise alcohol, a letter indicating that the local
jurisdiction has no objections based on the finding of public convenience and necessity is
warranted.
The proposed convenience store will be independently owned and operate 8 a.m. to
midnight 7 days a week. Alcohol sales /display will take up no more than 15% of the floor
area. The shopping center site is located adjacent to residential dwellings to the west,
Lakeshore Drive to the east, a restaurant to the south, and vacant land to the north. Notice
of this request was mailed to property owners within a 300 -foot radius of the property.
The Riverside County Sheriff Department expressed some concerns regarding this
request. Including the proximity to a residential area, lack of visibility from Lakeshore Drive,
the existence of other off - premise establishments, and the potential for the area between
the store and the residential area becoming a location where loitering could occur. Some
alternatives presented included locating the convenience store in a unit easily visible from
Lakeshore, quality surveillance equipment, and restrictions on window signage.
Correspondence from the Lake Elsinore Chief of Police (Sheriff) is included as Attachment
2.
Recommendation
1. Find that alcohol sales in conjunction with the proposed convenience store will serve
public convenience and necessity and direct the Acting Director of Community
Development to forward a letter to ABC indicating as such; or
2. Deny the request and find that alcohol sales in conjunction with the proposed
convenience store will not serve public convenience and necessity.
Prepared by: Tom Weiner .
Acting Director of Community Development
Attachments
1. Location Map
2. Correspondence from Riverside County Sheriff
3. PCN Request from Applicant dated September 18, 2008
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Tom Weiner
From: Joseph Cleary [JCLE:ARY @riversidesheriff.org]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:20 AM
To: Tom Weiner
Subject: PC &N Request - Viscaya Village Shopping Center - ABC License
Tom,
The police department still opposes a recommendation to allow a off - premise alcohol license
at the proposed location in the Viscaya Village Shopping Center. Primarily due to the
proximity to a residential area, lack of visibility from Lakeshore Drive, the area between
the store and the residential area could become a secluded loitering spot, and there are
already more than enough commercial establishments in the immediate area to accommodate the
needs of the local residents and other customers.
Should the planning commission choose to approve the licensing, some mitigation of our
concerns could be addressed by the following;
1. The convenience store occupy a pad in the other building (A, B, or C) that is easily
visible from Lakeshore Drive.
2. The convenience store install quality surveillance video equipment covering both the
interior of the store and the exterior parking areas.
3. There be a restriction in the amount of widow area blocked by product, shelving, or
advertizement in order to maximize our ability to see into the store.
Joe Cleary
Captain, Lake Elsinore Police Department
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TIMBERLINE
COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE
September 18, 2008
Mr. Tom Weiner
Planning Manager
City of Lake Elsinore
Community Development Department
130 S. Main Street
Lake Elsinore, CA 92530
Re: Public Convenience & Necessity (PC &N) Request
Viscaya Village Shopping Center
Nermine Aziz & Sabhi Elias
16665 Lakeshore Drive, Suite A
Lake Elsinore, CA
Mr. Tom Weiner,
I am writing this letter on behalf of Nermine Aziz and Sabhi Elias in regards to their
proposed new convenience store location at the address listed above. Nermine Aziz and
Sabhi Elias are requesting a Public Convenience & Necessity (PC &N) letter for the new
location.
The proposed store is to be a convenience store carrying many of your daily need grocery
items. The store will also include a counter for freshly made deli sandwiches, a coffee
and fountain drink station and specialty items such as salads, fruits and other prepackaged
meal items. Alcohol sales will not be more than 15% of the floor area.
Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any questions regarding this issue.
Regards,
C9ge4.--
Tom O'Meara
Vic: Nermine - -Aziz & Sabhi Elias
Dan Leigh, Corman Leigh Communities
18800 Von Kaman Ave., Suite 180 • Irvine. California 92612
ph. 949.471.2088 • fx. 949.474.7719 Agenda Item No. 11
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Attachment 7
AYES: CHAIRMAN ZANELLI
VICE- CHAIRMAN FLORES
COMMISSIONER GONZALES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER O'NEAL
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: ONE
ABSTAIN: NO
7, A Request for Public Convenience and Necessity Findings for Off - Premise Alcohol
Sales from a Proposed Convenience Store Located Within the Viscaya Village
Shopping Center Located at 16665 Lakeshore Drive, Suite "A ".
Vice- Chairman Flores requested to be recused from the discussion of the project
due to the proximity of his personal business to the project location.
Acting Community Development Director Weiner provided the reading of the staff
report to the Commission. He noted that City Council recently delegated the
responsibility of public convenience and necessity findings to the Planning
Commission. He stated the Department of Alcohol and Beverage Control requires
that the Findings be made from the local jurisdiction when an area is over
concentrated with similar types of alcohol licenses. He stated that the census tract
where the Viscaya Village Shopping Center is located contains five off premise
locations according to the ABC records. He stated ABC guidelines indicated that
based on the census tract and population, only three would be appropriate. He
stated that the applicant is present and staff is available to answer any questions
that the Commission may have.
Norma Aziz, applicant, stated that she is looking forward to doing business in the
City. She stated that she has been in this type of business for seven years and
never had problems with local police or ABC.
Tom O'Meara, landlord, noted that the applicant has a good history with ABC and
would like to have this business brought to the City.
Marylou Veytia, resident and Vice President of the HOA of Viscaya spoke in
opposition of the project. She indicated there are too many businesses that sell
alcohol in the area. She stated she doesn't have a problem with the convenience
store, only the sale of the alcohol.
Commissioner O'Neal stated that he does not have a problem with the convenience
store and the sale of alcohol at that location.
Commissioner Gonzales inquired about the location of the store and asked if there
was a restaurant that once stood at that location.
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Tom O'Meara stated the proposed location is on the corner and is about 2,000
square feet. He stated that the Panda Palace is also at that location.
Commissioner O'Neal asked the hours of the business.
Tom O'Meara stated the hours would be from 8:00 a.m. to midnight.
Commissioner Mendoza requested clarification of what the Sheriffs Department
recommended.
Acting Community Development Director Weiner stated that the Sheriff's
Department did have some concerns with the visibility into the store. He stated it
was also noted that the store would need adequate surveillance.
Chairman Zanelli commented on the number of establishments. He stated that it
would be difficult for him to support.
It was motioned by Commissioner Mendoza, seconded by Commissioner Gonzales
to deny the request and find that alcohol sales in conjunction with the proposed
convenience store will not serve public convenience and necessity.
The following vote resulted:
AYES: CHAIRMAN ZANELLI
COMMISSIONER GONZALES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
NOES: COMMISSIONER O'NEAL
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: VICE - CHAIRMAN FLORES
Vice- Chairman Flores returned to the meeting at 8:39 p.m.
AF • uu . ►.
Tra Engineer Basubas commented on the following:
• He se e of the Rosetta Canyon Fire Station and Park starting construction in two
weeks.
• He spoke the paving of Grand Avenue which would commence on October 20
• He spoke o e road improvements at 1 -15 and Central which would commence in
two weeks.
• He spoke of the , aving along Dexter Avenue and how staff continues to work with
the County on thei air share of the fees.
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Attachment 8
Original Message
From: Marian fmailto.
Sent: Thu 12/11/2008 4:54 PM
To: City Council
Cc:
Subject: Viscaya Shopping Center -- convenience store
City Council:
My name is Marian Illescas. I am a resident and business owner in Lake Elsinore. In October I
opened my second Income Tax Preparation location within Lake Elsinore at the Viscaya
Shopping Center. My other location is the South side of Lake Elsinore, located at 31813 Mission
Trail.
My experience at that location for the past 10 years has been very positive, for my business and
for the businesses within that business center. Recently, I have been told that a new convenience
store is proposed to be opening within the Viscaya Shopping Center. This is very exciting news
as we need all the new business we can get within the center and also new business within our
City. An empty and vacant shopping center is not good for local businesses or the community.
A fully occupied center creates a synergy within a community that promotes new business,
customers and commerce. This is the type of business activity we need especially in the rough
economic times we are experiencing.
I think the convenience store will be a positive addition to the Shopping Center and the local
community. Please help me and other small business owners and residents by supporting the
convenience store use and allowing it to open for business.
Thank you,
Marian Illescas
Lake Elsinore, CA 92530
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BOSTONS POOL & S SERVJCE
Lake Elsinore CA 42530
December 10, 200g
Dear City Council:
I an a resident of the V iscaya Community and attended the BOA me e*fug on October
13th at which Timberline Commercial }resented a proposed convenience store for the
Viaeaaye Shopping Center. At the meeting alto Landlord and die proposed Tenant, Norma
Ariz, aavo a presentation on the format of the proposed convenience store. The
presentation was very hclpti il. I do not have any issues with the stone end .1 believe that it
w1U be u corwenieat use for our neighborhood.
We had been lot to Wave Attalla proprrsed operation would be a la11 line liquor
this is not the, case. It bas boon explained Burt the proposed swell to be a specialty
convenience store carrying goner" items such en milk, acne, carom. esto. The tot NOM will
include it sandwich counter for (resit anode deli sandwiches, a coffee station with muffins
and pastries, a fountain drink station, pre - packaged meals, salads, fresh fruits and
vegetables. The tenant has agreed that the store will keep any liquor sales to 151/4 or less.
Also, the tenant was able to address our concern regarding hours of operation. The
Tenant has agreed to operate within the (allowing hone: &Condety thin Thursday tS :00 am-
10 :00 pm and Prickly tru Saturday 6 :00 am thou 11:00 pm. Tilts mans very reasonable to
mc.
After hearing the presentation and having the tenant address many of the c ormminities
questions and onmc ems, I am in favor ofthe proposed store. This typo *Nom will bo n
benefit and convenience to the Vaascaya Community,
ShieereEy,
f .d - s--
Neil Boston
Lake Minoru, CA 92,330
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Original Message-- -
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From: Mary Lou Veytia
Sent: Fri 12/5/2008 1:10 PM
To: City Council
Cc: Tom O'Meara; Lisa Burlingame; Jeff Griffin; John Boggs; Carl Randall;
Subject: Viscaya Convenient/Liquor Store
I am writing this letter as a homeowner of the Viscaya Community, and this reflects my personal
opinion as to the above mentioned store. I agree to the opening of this store with a bit of
trepidations, and would like to make sure that this is noted. Personally I think the liquor license
should be given on a temporary basis (maybe for 6 mos). Once we see the impact this has on the
community then the license can be extended if there is no negative impact. Also I think if this is
truly a convenience store it should have hours that will be helpful for those going to work early
& the hours of operation should be as follows:
Sunday through Thursday 6am to lOpm and
Friday & Sat 6am to l 1pm
MaryLou Veytia
Lake Elsinore, CA 92530
IMINIMMINi
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Original Message
From: Donny Farmer
Sent: Tue 11/11/2008 f :40 PM
To: Robert Magee
Cc:
Subject: Liquor license petition at 16665 Lakeshore Dr. #A, by a concerned citizen
Dear Mr. Robert "Bob" Magee,
I am writing you on behalf of: Liquor license application "21 Off Sale General"
Aziz Nermine Saber & Hanna Sobhi Elias
16665 Lakeshore Dr. #A, Lake Elsinore , CA , 92530
Riverside ABC District 8
(951) 782 -4400
3737 Main St . #900 , Riverside , CA , 92501
I am a concerned resident of the Viscaya Community. I recently became aware of an
application for a 21 Off sale General liquor license at 16665 Lakeshore Dr. #A, Lake Elsinore ,
CA , 92530 .
I canvassed the within area to get an idea of what types of businesses already exist and here were
'8ome of my results:
'gat
Businesses that either sell or serve alcohol:
Chevron
AMPM
Bikini Beach Club - 31502 Riverside
Papa G's Pizza, Pasta, and More Restaurant
Hunny's Cafe
Pizza Bowl
(2) Circle K
Arrivederci Roma Restaurant
Mariscos Nayarit Restaurant
Brookstone Liquor
Las Brisas Mexican Food Restaurant
Liquor Store
Fat Cat Tavern
Albertson's
Stater Brother's
Rite Aid
Circle K
Mi Restaurant Vallarta
La Mexicana Taqueria, Carniceria, Pescaderia
In addition to businesses with liquor licenses are the following businesses with the potential to
attract crime:
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Payday Loans /Check Cashing businesses there are 3 located at the Riverside /Lakeshore
intersection. There is a Pawn Shop, Tattoo Shop and a Smoke Shop.
There is a high school and an elementary school within walking distance of the community.
Students /Children of all ages residing inside the Viscaya Community walk on the sidewalk
adjacent to the business on a daily basis. The Viscaya Community Pool which facilitates
families and children every day is in close proximity to the business.
Questions I have:
Specifically what type of business would this be? Liquor Store I assume.
Have either of the names on the application (Aziz Nermine Saber & Hanna Sobhi Elias)
previously been granted a liquor license elsewhere, and if so have they ever been convicted of
any crimes?
What measures would be in place to prevent minor's from purchasing alcohol?
With transients already living in the area, would there be any action plans implemented to have
them reside elsewhere? I fear they would be even more likely to hang around.
The Viscaya Community is a beautiful gated community of newly built single family homes.
Most of the homeowner's, like me, purchased their home in tough economic times with less than
ideal interest rates. Most of us had a common vision of a living in a peaceful environment free
of crime and poverty. This community's homeowner's want to be in it for the long hall. We
want to better our community and improve property values. I have seen much improvement
thus far, however another liquor license to the area will undoubtedly slow or stop any progress.
Since I have lived here it has been quite apparent that we live in the heart of a high crime area. I
am aware of 3 homicides in Lake Elsinore so far this year, I have seen possible narcotics sales
inside the Viscaya Community, extensive graffiti in the nearby area and I often see transients in
the nearby shopping center's begging for money. There is an extensive amount of graffiti that
seems to grow daily. I have personally been the victim of a graffiti related crime. I exited my
home one morning to find blue tagging on my driveway saying "OBK/" reference RSD report
#L08176065 taken by Deputy Blinn #4390. Approximately one week later, I located (2) male
juveniles tagging a fence and a stop sign at the rear exit of our community, I detained them until
I released them to a Riverside Deputy. I have seen this same spirit in my fellow homeowners at
our local HOA meetings. We share the common goal of improving our neighborhood and
surrounding area so that our families can feel safe and secure. I fear by granting a new liquor
license, it will raise the number of alcohol related crimes such as drunk driving, public
intoxication, and minors in possession of alcohol. Granting a new license would inevitably
increase the amount of calls for law enforcement service. I know the Lake Elsinore (Division)
of the Riverside Sheriffs Department has recently taken on additional assignments and
responsibilities. The last thing the Riverside Sheriffs Department needs is to have an increased
number of calls for service to the area for alcohol related crimes, crimes that should have been
prevented by not granting this alcohol license. Before granting this liquor license and any
other's in the Lake Elsinore jurisdiction, I would hope the City Council would verify that the
Riverside Sheriffs Department can handle an increased amount of crimes in the area. I have
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grown aware of the current suspension of the liquor license at the Bikini Beach Strip Club at
31502 Riverside , Lake Elsinore , CA , 92530. The Riverside ABC district 8 does not need an
additional problematic liquor license to deal with.
I do not have any objection to the liquor licenses granted at the bonafide eating places , nor do I
believe there is a positive correlation between this type of liquor license and alcohol related
crimes. I do however question that the public needs additional "21 Off Sale General" liquor
licenses in the area with the abundance of these liquor licenses already in existence.
Please do not grant this new liquor license for the all of the reasons I have provided herein.
Myself and all of my neighbors request your assistance in this matter. We all share the same
goal of improving our neighborhood. As it sits now, the Viscaya Community is a diamond in
the rough and the newly built structures built around our community can either be filled with
businesses that either improve the area, or that have a negative impact on the area.
Respectfully submitted,
Donny Farmer
t
Lake Elsinore , CA , 92530
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From: MaryLou Veytia InfaarafAMINIMIRas
Sent: Fri 11/7/2008 6:17 PM
To: City Council
Cc:
Subject: Viscaya Community proposed Liquor /convenience Store
To all council members, I respectfully ask you consider denying a permit for the above
Liquor /Convenience Store to be opened right outside the front gates of a residential community.
Most of the homeowners feel it will dramatically affect the area negatively. There are already
plenty of this type of stores within walking distance of this community. With so many different
family oriented businesses out there why would we need another convenience store? Why not
something we could all use, like a coffee shop, sandwich shop We as a community are not
opposed to business but why not something that fits with a family atmosphere, most of the
residents here are young families, and would like to see family oriented business like the ones in
place already.
Sincerely
MaryLou Veytia
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