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CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
MINUTES
APRIL 19, 2011
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Gonzales called the regular meeting of the Lake Elsinore Planning
Commission held on Tuesday, April 19, 2011, to order at 6:00 p.m. in the Cultural
Center, located at 183 N. Main Street, Lake Elsinore, CA 92530.
PRESENT: Chairman John Gonzales, Commissioner Shelly Jordan,
Commissioner Rick Morsch, Commissioner Michael O'Neal
ABSENT: Vice Chairman Phil Mendoza
Also present: City Manager Robert Brady, City Attorney Barbara Leibold
Staff members present included: Associate Planner Agustin Resendiz, Planning
Consultant Kirt Coury, Public Works Director Ken Seumalo, and Office Specialist
Kristine Herrington.
CALL TO ORDER (6:00 p.m.)
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Jordan.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chairman Gonzales
Commissioner Jordan
Commissioner Morsch
Commissioner O'Neal
Absent: Vice Chairman Mendoza
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
None.
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CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM(S)
None.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEM(S)
1) Variance No. 2011 -01• A request for a Variance to deviate from the Lake
Elsinore Municipal Code and the Canyon Creek "Summerhill" Commercial
Center Sign Program, related to the maximum sign height for the existing
Holiday Inn Express Hotel Facility located at 31577 Canyon Estates Drive
Recommendation:
Adopt a resolution approving Variance No. 2011 -01 to permit the existing
sign to exceed the maximum sign height, based on the Findings, Exhibits,
and proposed Conditions of Approval.
City Manager Brady gave an overview of the project and asked Associate
Planner Resendiz to review with the Planning Commission and answer any
questions they may have.
Associate Planner Resendiz provided an overview of the project.
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The Applicant, Sachin Trivedi introduced himself to the Commission.
Chairman Gonzales stated that he went by to look at the sign and said that he
wished that it was closer to the Canyon Hills Estates Road. Commissioner
Jordan asked Mr. Trivedi why he did not apply for the Variance before he put the
sign up. Mr. Trivedi indicated that it was a mistake.
Commissioner Jordan requested that in Condition No. 6, correction of the
wording to state "Holiday Inn" instead of "Shopping Centel". Associate Planner
Resendiz indicated that he would revise.
Commissioner Morsch asked Mr. Trivedi if he made any efforts to gain a sign
easement from the property owners that are on Canyon Hills Drive for a
monument sign on the street and indicated that this would give the businesses
more advertisement. Mr. Trivedi indicated that he has discussed this with the
property owners and if the Commission granted him this, he would apply for a
Variance. He also stated that he has spoken to the Association regarding the big
freeway monument sign and would be coming back to the Planning Commission
regarding taking down the Summerhill Commercial Center Sing. He will replace
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the Summerhill Commercial Center sign with the Holiday Inn Express Sign which
the Association members granted.
Commissioner Morsch asked Public Works Director Seumalo where the property
line is in relation to the sidewalk. Public Works Director Seumalo indicated that
he would follow up with Commissioner Morsch with the information. Mr. Trivedi
indicated that he would work with staff regarding the easements and location of
the monument sign. Commissioner O'Neal asked Mr. Trivedi how long the fifteen
foot (15') sign has existed. Mr. Trivedi indicated that it was installed on February
23, 2011. Commissioner O'Neal also asked Mr. Trivedi when he applied for this.
Mr. Trivedi indicated that Code Enforcement notified him that he had to apply for
a Variance which he did immediately. Commissioner O'Neal indicated to Mr.
Trivedi that he would approve the Variance but stressed that Mr. Trivedi needs to
follow the codes of Lake Elsinore.
Passed and adopted the following Resolution:
"Resolution No. 2011 -08 — A Resolution of the Planning Commission of the
City of Lake Elsinore, California, approving Variance No. 2011 -01 to vary
from the maximum sign height provisions in association with a free
monument standing sign for the Holiday Inn Express Hotel.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Jordan and seconded by
Commissioner Morsch approving Variance No. 2011 -01 to vary from the
maximum sign height provisions in association with a free monument
standing sign for the Holiday Inn Express Hotel.
AYES: Chairman Gonzales, Commissioner Jordan, Commissioner
Morsch, Commissioner O'Neal
NOES: None
ABSENT: Vice Chairman Mendoza
ABSTAIN: None
2) Conditional Use Permit No. 2010 -06 and Minor Design Review for the
Design of a Wireless Mono -Light Pole Cellular Tower
Recommendation:
It is recommended that the Planning Commission adopt a resolution
approving Conditional Use Permit No. 2010 -06 and a resolution approving
a Minor Design Review for the design of a Wireless Mono -Light Pole
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Cellular Tower. This recommendation is based on the Findings, Exhibits
and Conditions of Approval attached to the Staff Report,
City Manager Brady provided an overview of the project and asked Planning
Consultant Coury to review the Staff Report with the Commission and answer
any questions they may have.
Planning Consultant Coury provided an overview of the project. He noted that he
did receive one (1) e-mail from a resident that expressed some concern about
the transmission lines. He pointed out to the Commission that these types of
structures are regulated by the FCC and has to meet guidelines. He noted that
the City has limited jurisdiction on providing this so no additional studies were
required as they are not handled through the City but are handled federally
through the FCC. He indicated that staff has reviewed and conditioned
accordingly and recommended approval of the project.
The applicant, Barbara Saito of T- Mobile gave her name and address. She
indicated that she did not have a lot to add to Mr. Coury's presentation. She
noted that Mr. Coury did indicate to her that he received the e-mail which was
discussed previously. She stated that she did provide site information that shows
that they do meet the FCC guidelines and requirements.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Commissioner O'Neal indicated that the project looks appropriate for where it is
located and stated for the record that the person that sent the e-mail to Mr. Coury
was Mr. Robert Harford.
Commissioner Jordan asked for clarification of Condition No. 17 of the
Conditions of Approval. Public Works Director Seumalo clarified Condition No.
17.
Commissioner Morsch indicated that he understood that T- Mobile is leasing the
Facility from the City and asked if there were Conditions with the Lease
Agreement that might influence the Commission's decision and Conditions that
the Commission should be looking at due to various issues of possible concern.
Associate Planner Coury indicated that there is not an existing Lease Agreement
and noted that they are working out the details, and waiting for the final approval
of the project before they have the final agreement. City Attorney Leibold
indicated that typically, the Lease Agreement is completed once the entitlements
are completed. Therefore, there is not an existing Lease Agreement on this site.
Commissioner Morsch asked how the Commission can make an evaluation of
this project if they do not know what all of the Conditions are from Engineering,
and in terms of an Agreement between the applicant and the City. He asked if
the Commission has input regarding this. City Attorney Leibold indicated that the
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role of the Planning Commission is with respect to the use, the design, and the
Conditions of Approval, etc. which typically does not go to the Planning
Commission but goes to City Council.
Commissioner Morsch asked if the City runs the park now because the last title
search that he ran, was owned by TT Group. City Manager Brady stated that
when Tuscany Hills was developed, the ownership of the park was never turned
over to the City and they are currently working through this to get it resolved.
Commissioner Morsch indicated that he is concerned about emissions and
knows that there is maintenance on these facilities and wanted to know if there is
testing that goes along with the maintenance to make sure that there are no stray
emissions from this site(s).
Ms. Saito indicated that they, do have maintenance engineers check the Facility
monthly to make sure that everything is functioning properly. She stated that the
equipment associated with this facility can not produce the level of emissions that
would reach that level of concern. Commissioner Morsch asked what the range
is on a typical Cellular site. Ms. Saito indicated that every carrier range is
different, based on their frequencies. Commissioner Morsch indicated that his
concern is the school that is near the site and there are about eight hundred
(800) to nine hundred (900) kids that could be very susceptible to this. Ms. Saito
indicated that the reason that they are putting the site there is because it is a
residential area, and there are a lot of people that want to reach their children if
there was an emergency. She noted that 50% of people are getting rid of their
landlines and rely solely on their cell phones and need coverage in these areas.
Commissioner Morsh indicated that the American Cancer Society suggests that if
there are concerns, periodic testing is done at the sites. He asked Ms. Saito if
any of their sites have testing involved with relation to emissions. Ms. Saito
indicated that there are some jurisdictions, through their code, that require testing
on an annual basis. However, she noted that none of the cell sites that have had
tests done have failed. Commissioner Morsch requested adding an additional
Condition to the Conditions of Approval to require an annual test because of the
fact that there is a school at the location of the cellular site. Ms. Saito indicated
that she will need some parameters for that test and noted that the paperwork
that she has submitted shows that by following the FCC guidelines, this facility is
categorically exempt. She also indicated that she is concerned because if the
Commission has not required this testing of other carriers, this puts an additional
burden on T- Mobile. Commissioner Morsch indicated that he was not on the
Planning Commission prior to other applications for carriers.
Commissioner O'Neal indicated that the FCC does not allow the testing that
Commissioner Morsch is suggesting and noted that the FCC regulates what
happens in the air wave, not the City. Therefore, he is not certain that
Commissioner Morsch can add this condition to the Conditions of Approval.
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Chairman Gonzales indicated that the Commission never required other
applicants to do this testing. Commissioner Jordan had no comments.
Chairman Gonzales indicated that the FCC should handle this. Commissioner
Morsch stated that he spent many years in communications and know that there
are hazards associated with this and feels that it is warranted, although he stated
that he would not hold up the project if the other Commissioners think it is a mute
point. He stated, if there are maintenance people checking the systems,
monthly, to make sure that they are in proper order this can preclude any testing.
Ms. Saito indicated that the engineer comes in on a monthly basis and keeps it
functional which would not breach the level of emissions and indicated that they
do have to continually file with the FCC that they are in compliance with the FCC
guidelines.
Passed and adopted the following Resolution:
"Resolution No. 2011 -09 — A Resolution of the Planning Commission of the
City of Lake Elsinore, California, approving Conditional Use Permit No.
2010 -06.
MOTION was made by Commissioner O'Neal and seconded by
Commissioner Jordan to approve Conditional Use Permit No. 2010 -06.
AYES: Chairman Gonzales, Commissioner Jordan, Commissioner
Morsch, Commissioner O'Neal
NOES: None
ABSENT: Vice Chairman Mendoza
ABSTAIN: None
Passed and adopted the following Resolution:
"Resolution No. 2011 -10 — A Resolution of the Planning Commission of the
City of Lake Elsinore, California, approving Minor Design Review for the T-
Mobile Telecommunications Facility at the Tuscany Hills Park.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Jordan and seconded by
Commissioner O'Neal to approve Minor Design Review for the T- Mobile
Telecommunications Facility at the Tuscany Hills Park.
AYES: Chairman Gonzales, Commissioner Jordan, Commissioner
Morsch, Commissioner O'Neal
NOES: None
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ABSENT: Vice Chairman Mendoza
ABSTAIN: None
2) Conditional Use Permit No. 2010 -09 and a Minor Design Review for the
Design of a Wireless Monopine Cellular Tower
Recommendation
It is recommended that the Planning Commission adopt a resolution approving
Conditional Use Permit No. 2010 -09 and a resolution approving a Minor Design
Review for the design of a Wireless Monopine Cellular Tower. This
recommendation is based on the Findings, Exhibits and Conditions of Approval
attached to the Staff Report.
City Manager Brady provided an overview of the project and asked Planning
Consultant Coury to review the Staff Report with the Planning Commission and
answer any questions they may have.
Planning Consultant Coury provided an overview of the project.
Chairman Gonzales asked Mr. Coury if the applicant signed the Acknowledgment
of "Draft" Conditions of Approval. Planning Consultant Coury did receive it and
apologized for not including it in the report.
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The applicant, Marc Myers of Derra Design, representing AT &T Mobility indicated
that they are proposing the installation of the stealth wireless facility and
explained the design of the stealth monopine and the location of the wireless
facility. He stated that they agree with the Conditions of Approval.
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Commissioner Morsch asked Mr. Myers if it was possible to make the wireless
facilities look more like trees. Mr. Myers stated that great lengths have come
with the progress and providing them to look more stealth and discussed how
they are being made to look like they blend into the pine needles located there.
Commissioner Jordan asked Mr. Myers if they were planning on doing any
grading to put the pre - fabricated building there. Mr. Myers said very minimal if
any because the top of the site is flat so it is not necessary. Commissioner
Jordan asked why there are no pre- fabrications or elevations of the building and
the building is not shown on the picture. Mr. Myers indicated that they felt as
though the location for the closest sensitive receptor was where the photos were
taken from and at this distance, it is not visible. They also have it finished with an
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aggregate concrete finish and painted dark brown which blends in with the
natural landscape. Commissioner Jordan asked Mr. Myers if anyone will be able
to see the building from the 15 Freeway. Mr. Myers indicated possibly, but with
the design it will hopefully disappear into the setting of the background.
Commissioner Jordan suggested revising Condition No. 20 and Condition No. 21
be clarified. Public Works Director Seumalo indicated that he would revise.
Commissioner O'Neal asked Mr. Myers if AT &T Mobility uses any other designs
for cellular towers, other than monopines. Mr. Myers indicated yes and stated
that there are various designs that they try to fit into settings.
Passed and adopted the following Resolution:
"Resolution No. 2011 -11 — A Resolution of the Planning Commission of the
City of Lake Elsinore, California, approving Conditional Use Permit No.
2010 -09 with changes that the Commission proposed.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Morsch and seconded by
Commissioner Jordan to approve Conditional Use Permit No. 2010 -09 with
changes that the Commission proposed.
AYES: Chairman Gonzales, Commissioner Jordan, Commissioner
Morsch, Commissioner O'Neal
NOES: None
ABSENT: Vice Chairman Mendoza
ABSTAIN: None
Passed and adopted the following Resolution:
"Resolution No. 2011 -12 — A Resolution of the Planning Commission of the
City of Lake Elsinore, California, approving a Minor Design Review for the
AT &T Mobility Telecommunications Facility at 28555 Cielito Drive.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Jordan and seconded by
Commissioner Morsch to approve a Minor Design Review for the AT&T
Mobility Telecommunications Facility at 28555 Cielito Drive.
AYES: Chairman Gonzales, Commissioner Jordan, Commissioner
Morsch, Commissioner O'Neal
NOES: None
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ABSENT: Vice Chairman Mendoza
ABSTAIN: None
BUSINESS ITEMS
None.
PLANNING COMMISSION'S COMMENTS
Chairman Gonzales asked Public Works Director Seumalo if he looked at the
property next door to his property where the water is flooding the residents yard
and said that he noticed sandbags were placed there. Public Works Director
Seumalo stated that he spoke to the resident of the property and addressed
these issues.
STAFF'S COMMENTS
Planning Consultant Coury had no comments.
Planning Associate Resendiz had no comments.
Office Specialist Herrington had no comments.
City Manager Brady indicated that the City's Spring Festival and Egg Hunt will be
on Saturday, April 23, 2011 at 10:00 am located at McVicker Park.
COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Commissioner Morsch asked City Attorney Leibold for clarification of Eminent
Domain of habitat and City Attorney Leibold explained.
Commissioner Jordan had no comments.
Commissioner O'Neal recommended that staff hold firm regarding metal
buildings that the Storm Baseball Team wants to erect and noted that Walgreens
has spent a lot of money on the design in that area. He also encouraged staff
that the City should maintain local control regarding the regulation of the mining.
City Manager Brady indicated that staff firmly believes in local control as well,
and this is the position that the City is taking. The City will make every effort
possible to maintain the local control with regards to the regulation of the mining.
Public Works Director Seumalo indicated that staff has met with all of the mining
operators, as well as with the Executive Official of the Mining Board regarding
maintaining local control as the Lead Agency. City Attorney Leibold indicated
that a Hearing regarding the mining issue is set for May 12, 2011, at the Cultural
Center at 9:00 am. She also stated that it would be helpful to have testimony
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from the public encouraging the Board to step back and defer to the City and
their jurisdiction.
Commissioner O'Neal stated that it is not a good idea to send positions such as
the Attorney's office positions out to bid due to various legal issues that are
complex and require a certain level of experience in order to answer complex
questions.
CITY ATTORNEY'S COMMENTS
City Attorney Leibold had no comments.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the Planning Commission,
Chairman Gonzales adjourned the meeting at 7:11 p.m.
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission of the City of Lake
Elsinore is scheduled for Tuesday, May 3, 2011, at 6:00 p.m. in the Cultural
Center located at 183 N. Main Street, Lake Elsinore, CA 92530.
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Respectfully Submitted,
Kristine Herrington
Office Specialist
Attest:
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City Manager