HomeMy WebLinkAbout01-06-2005 SSMINUTES
CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
184 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
THURSDAY, JANUARY 6, 2005
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CALL TO ORDER
The City Council Study Session was called to order by Mayor Magee at 5:01 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
BUCKLEY, HICKMAN,
KELLEY, SCHIFFNER,
MAGEE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
NONE
Also present were: Assistant City Manager Best, Administrative Services
Director Pressey, Community Development Director Brady, Community
Services Director Sapp, Engineering Manager Seumalo, Parks & Open Space
Manager Fazzio, Recreation & Tourism Manager Fazzio, and City
Clerk/Human Resources Director Kasad.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge ofAllegiance was led by Community Services Director Sapp.
PUBLIC CONIMENTS
Ron Hewison, 35 Villa Valtelena, commented that HOPE is staffed completely by
volunteers. He explained that they received daily bread donations, monthly milk
donations and donations from food drives, business donations and church
donations. He also noted the volume of toy donations received for Christmas.
He highlighted the monthly expenses borne by HOPE, explaining that canned
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Weed Abatement Water Truck $90,000 $75,000
Code Enforcement $25,000 $20,000
Structure Abatement $50,000 $25,000
Curb, Gutter Sidewalk
Replacement $95,000 $50,000
Senior Center Services $19,000 $17,000
He clarified that the Council could make changes to the allocation as part of this
study session, and the item would return on January l lth for action. He noted that
representatives from Operation School Bell and HOPE were present at this
meeting.
Assistant City Manager Best addressed the request by Mr. Hewison, and explained
that the City was currently anticipating about $200,000; but did in fact receive
about $66,000 extra last year. She explained that at this point the County could
not provide any assurances, so the cap was at $30,000 instead of far more. She
noted the discussion of anticipating more dollars, but indicated that was not
possible, as it could only go to the public works portion of the allocation. She
advised that the Seniar Center only qualified as public services dollars, but the
dollars could still be moved around. She clarified that the allowances were for
presentation to the County, but they were up to the Council's discretion to budget.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner addressed the request from Mr. Hewison, and indicated
that he fully supports HOPE. He noted that he was criticized because he only
supports two charities in town, but reiterated that he definitely supports HOPE.
He stressed that this item was to consider whether or not to dedicate money to
HOPE and make up other expenses out of City funds, and suggested that it
becomes a word game. He indicated that what they were really requesting was
the contribution of regular funds, which he would not be opposed to.
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Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner inquired about Operation School Bell, and inquired if
HOPE was still proposing to take that operation over or changing their operation.
Mr. Hewison indicated that they do have clothing for kids, but their program only
services DPSS and School District referrals. He noted that he saw the impact of
Operation School Bell during the Christmas distribution, and indicated that HOPE
was not as effective as Operation School Bell in that area. He indicated that
HOPE's clothing for kids would be discussed at a meeting next week. Mayor Pro
Tem Schiffner requested clarification that they were still separate programs. Mr.
Hewison indicated that'/z of their building was filled with clothing, but they
needed to either be more efficient, merge or try some other alternative.
Councilwoman Kelley noted that HOPE has specific expertise, as does Operation
School Be1L
Mayor Magee addressed Mr. Hewison about HOPE's application for $6,000, and
noted that staff was suggesting that their request be filled. He commented that he
heard him say they wanted more, but questioned what that number was. Mr.
Hewison suggested that consideration be given to funding the Senior Center and
distributing that funding to the other organizations. He indicated that was why
they stuck with the same funding from last year, but would like to see that changed
in the future. Mayor Magee asked if the Council should take a portion or all of the
$17,000 fund to use for other programs, and back fill with the additional funds at a
later time. Assistant City Manager Best indicated that the back fill would have to
be from the general fund, as the Senior Center still falls under public services.
Mayor Magee noted that the Senior Center was already taking a$2,000 hit over
last year's funding.
Councilman Hickman inquired if the 15% cap applies to the additional $60,000.
Community Services Director Sapp indicated that it would not apply. He
explained that the County would be taking the additional percentages for their
programs. He reiterated that any additional funding received was required to go
to public works programs. Councilman Hickman questioned the unallocated funds
and whether the $17,000 could be covered. Administrative Services Director
Pressey confirmed that it could be covered. Councilman Hickman defended the
Senior Citizens and noted that while there were a lot of people from outside the
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to pick one over the other; but for today she would go with the staff
recommendation.
Councilman Buckley indicated that he wouldn't suggest taking the full $17,000
out, but he wouldn't mind giving $6,000 to HOPE, $5,000 to School Bell, $4,000
to ADV and $15,000 to the Senior Center. He commented that it was sad that
they could not shift funds, when the other funds come in. Assistant City Manager
Best reiterated the ability to use those funds. Councilman Buckley suggested that
at the appropriate time the Council should look at a Community support budget to
fund things like WeTip, 21 l, HOPE, etc. Assistant City Manager Best noted that
the Council has that fund and offered to provide details. Councilman Buckley
suggested setting a percentage of the budget aside to go to that fund.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner indicated that the Council could juggle funds around,
; but should not do anything that would predetermine what will need to be done at
budget time. He stressed that the Council should not make a commitment for ~~vhat
will be done at budget time.
Mayor Magee requested a summary of the $30,000 pot of money to be use~ for
four different uses. He inquired if the funds could be shuffled between the fouraY
a later date. Community Services Director Sapp confirmed that the Cour:cil r,ould
go back and reprogram the money. Mayor Magee commented that the Council
was looking at programming the money, but as additional information is received
at mid-year, the Council will be in a better position to know what portion they
would feel more comfortable moving down the list. He reminded the Council that
they could not make any decisions tonight, but could move the funds around after
they receive more information. He indicated that he would have one more
recommendation, and suggested that the water truck seemed rather expensive and
asked that staff look at something coming off a lease, since it would not be used
every day. Community Services Director Sapp concurred that staff could look at
something less expensive, but clarified that it probably would be used every day.
Councilman Buckley noted that the water truck would also assist with dust
control. Community Services Director Sapp confirmed.
MINUTES
JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, JANUARY 20, 2005
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Magee called the Joint Study Session to order at 5:02 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: HICKMAN, KELLEY,
SCHIFFNER, MAGEE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY
Also present were: City Manager Brady, City Attorney Leibold, Administrative
Services Director Pressey, Community Services Director Sapp, Lake & Aquatic
Resources Director Kilroy, Finance Manger Magee,
Communication/Information Manager Dennis, Public Works Manager Payne,
Recreation/Tourism Manager Fazzio, Parks & Open Space Manager Fazzio,
Planning/Code Enforcement Manager Villa, Building & Safety Manager
Chipman, Engineering Manager Seumalo, Police Chief Fetherolf,
City Treasurer Weber, and Deputy City Clerk Ray.
PLEDGE OF ALLIGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Donna Franson.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
None.
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DISCUSSION ITEMS
Mid Year Bud~et Review
Mayor Magee deferred to City Manager Brady. City Manager Brady gave an
overview of the item. He indicated that it was to identify various funding sections of
the budget, which included Capital Improvement Projects.
City Manager Brady indicated that in June, 2004, the City Council did approve a
balanced general fund budget that had revenues exceeding expenditures by over
$340,000; and the City had a unallocated revenue balance of $2.1 million; and a
reserve of $3 million. He indicated that the mid-year budget remained balanced and
had revenue in excess of $150,000 over expenditures. City Manager Brady deferred
to Administrative Services Director Pressey.
Administrative Services Director Pressey gave an overview of the staff report and
proceeded to guide Council and the public through a slide presentation. He noted
the budget highlights for FY 2004-2005. He noted the increase in public safety of
$2.1 million, Community Development of $1 million, Community Services
$584,206; and the City maintained $650,000 for Lake water. He indicated that City
staff had maintained the budget goals.
Mr. Pressey indicated that the City adopted a budget of $24.4 million in revenue,
$23.1 million in expenditures; and the General Fund had $912,000 allocated for
Capital Improvement projects, which left a more than balanced adopted budget with
an excess of $343,954 available for other expenditures during the year.
Mr. Pressey gave an overview of the General Fund unallocated revenues. He
indicated the total fund balance was $14.7 million, less the reserves in place, with an
unallocated revenue fund balance of $2.1 million. He noted that last year at this
time the City had estimated the ending balance to be about $1.8 million. He
indicated that carrying that unallocated balance forward to July lst of 2005, taking
into account the items Council had adopted revenue, minus expenditures the net
access of $343,954 would leave the unallocated revenue at July 1, 2005 of $2.5
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million at the beginning of this year. He indicated that the unallocated revenue
projected for June 30, 2005, was $1.5 million.
Mr. Pressey indicated that the General Fund Reserves and Unallocated Revenues
projected for June 30, 2005, were $4.5 million.
Mr. Pressey gave an overview of the Mid-Year adjustments. He indicated that the
Property Tax and Motor Vehicle in Lieu (VLF) were a swap. He indicated that per
the State Budget adoption they were perfornung a triple flip on the VLF in addition
to the sales tax, and at the time of the City budget adoption that aspect of the VLF
was not lrnown. He indicated that the City would receive an estimated 92% of the
VLF monies via property tax this year; and next year it would be a permanent part of
the property tax allocation and the City would only receive about 10% on a monthly
basis from the State on VLF. He indicated that the City would receive Booking Fee
revenue estimated to be $138,400.
Mr. Pressey gave an overview of Budget Overview Expenditures. He noted the
adopted budget and the adjustments to be made and the projections. He noted the
increases in the General Fund, RDA, and CIP Budgets.
City EngineerBngineering Manager Seumalo gave an overview of the CIP Projects
along with a status update. He noted the location which had traffic signals
completed. He noted the completion of the Lakeshore Drive Bridge, Lake
Destratificarion System, Annual Curb, Gutter & Sidewalk Repair Program at various
locations around the City, and Fire Station #10 concrete repair.
Mr. Seumalo gave an overview of the projects under conshuction. He noted that the
Pavement Management Program was approximately 50% complete. He indicated
that in regard to the pavement overlay, he was informed that there was a meeting
scheduled with Riverside County, they were going to have a preconstruction
meeting with the contractor on Monday; and construction would start in February
2005.
Mr. Seumalo gave an overview of the projects in process/design. He indicated that
in regard to the Casino Drive Bridge, staff has been waiting for Caltrans to submit
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environmental comments. He indicated that staff would continue to call them every
two weeks. He indicated that the design for the traffic signal at Grand Avenue and
Broadway had been completed and approved by staff; and staff would complete the
contract documents; and the project would be going out to bid in the near future. He
indicated that the anticipated construction date to start was March, completion in
May. He indicated that in regard to the Railroad Canyon Road and Interstate 15,
the project report was delayed because Caltrans' process of confirnung. He
indicated that they had audited the project report engineer. He indicated that staff
felt it was important to audit the engineer, because if Federal funds become available
staff could apply if the audit was completed. He indicated that the audit report had
been completed and the engineer had begun his study. He indicated that the
Machado Street Improvements were not funded for this year. He further indicated
that staff had been in contact with the County since the street left to complete was
owned partially by the County and the City. He indicated that staff would be
coming forward in the near future with a staff report for Council consideration. He
indicated that the Spring Street Curb, Gutter, and Sidewalk were in design and
would be constructed in May or April of this year.
Councilwoman Kelley indicated that on the Interstate 15 and Central Avenue
improvements, Caltrans had stipulated that the interim improvements required of the
City should be ready before occupancy of either Costco or Home Depot; and she
questioned the timing. Mr. Seumalo indicated that he had spoken with a Home
Depot representative; and a meeting had been scheduled with Caltrans to solidify
when they would be allowed to open. He indicated that currently there were
differences of opinion. The City understood it to be that construction had to be
underway, but their understanding was that funding had to be in place.
Councilman Hiclanan questioned the funding to purchase the Burger King located
near Highway 74. Mr. Seumalo indicated that the widening under the freeway
including Burger King's frontage was a permanent improvement that would be
utilized when the interchange was complete; and with that argument it would be
taken to WRCOG as a TUMF reimbursable cost.
Mayor Magee indicated that in regard to the interim improvements on Interstate 15
and Highway 74, Caltrans did not have the ability to instruct the City on issuing
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occupancy to the builders. Mr. Seumalo indicated that they did have control over
State right-of-ways, and unfortunately Home Depot's access was on a State
Highway.
Mayor Magee indicated that Home Depot had not broken ground and he was
concerned with Costco and Lowe's.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner inquired if the funding for the Central Avenue area was
from the share of WRCOG funds that went to RCTC. Mr. Seumalo indicated that
Central Avenue was WRCOG funds and not zone funds.
City Treasurer Weber indicated that the budget looked good. He indicated that the
one time fees came to an estimated $5 million and once the City was built out those
fees would no longer exist Administrative Services Director Pressey indicated that
at build out the City would still receive a good portion of building permits because
there would be constant changes.
City Treasurer Weber indicated that the revenue for the CIP was $14, 462,000, but
the expenditures were $7, 748,000. He quesrioned the source of the CIP. Mr.
Pressey indicated that the CIP identified all of the revenue sources for Capital type
expenditures. He indicated that they were separate funds in the accounting system.
Mayor Magee suggested reviewing the Mid-Year Budget Review Request for
Considerarion. He indicated that the first item was the Girls Softball T-Ball Field in
Tuscany Hills Park. He suggested approval of that request. He indicated that he had
a serious problem with the City Hall remodel. He indicated that Council had
approved $31,000 and staff was requesting more funds for the project. He indicated
that he would support the additional $18,000 for addirional workspace; and he
suggested postponing $19,500 to recarpet City Hall. He indicated that the request
for the additional $19,500 was already spent and indicated that Council would need
to accept that budget adjustment; and he indicated that was not acceptable to him,
when something was approved with a given cost, there should be a contingency plan
built in and he would not bring a budget forward that had a 50% contingency in it.
Mayor Magee inquired about the number of parking spaces that would be lost in the
back parking lot for the locarion of a GIS Trailer. City Manager Brady indicated it
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would be five spaces. Mayor Magee indicated that the Lake Patrol was requesting
the purchase of 2 Sea Doo's. He indicated that the staff report did not address if the
existing units would be auctioned off as part of the normal process. Community
Services Director Sapp indicated that the units would be auctioned off.
Mayor Magee indicated that he had discussed with Police Chief Fetherolf his
department's need for cardiovascular exercise equipment. He indicated that Police
Chief Fetherolf's price was estimated at $5,000. Mayor Magee requested that item
be added to the list. Mayor Magee indicated that last year he had discussed with
Public Works Manager Payne the need for a trailer to haul the backhoe.
Councilman Hiclanan inquired if the Police Department had a Health & Wellness
package. Police Chief Fetherolf indicated that the Sheriff Deparhnent did not have
an active Wellness Plan.
Mayor Magee inquired if the request would come back to Council on a Council
~ Agenda for adoption and questioned if it would be the first meeting in February.
City Manager Brady confirmed that it would be put on the agenda for that meeting.
Councilwoman Kelley indicated that over the past six months there had been local
charities coming before Council with requests for donations. She indicated that
Council had granted a couple and debated others. She suggested a program to be
added into the budget for the next budget review. Mayor Magee suggested
establishing a budget based on the funds spent this past year and adding 10%.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner suggested establishing an amount of the unallocated
revenue that the Council felt they could afford to those charities and establish a
budget; and when the chariries came before Council, the Council would divide
amongst them.
City Manager Brady indicated that there was another item staff would like Council to
consider. He indicated that it was levee repair, preventative maintenance. He
indicated that during the last storm there was considerable erosion of the
embankment of the levee where the inlet channel turns near the stadium. He further
indicated that Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy had put together an
estimated budget to address the issue. City Manager Brady deferred to Mr. Kilroy.
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Mr. Kilroy indicated that the erosion was caused near the levee entrance. He
indicated that it could eventually erode a path to the old river bed. Mayor Magee
indicated that the County had declared Lake Elsinore as a disaster area on January
11`~' and the State followed suit on January 17~'. He indicated that emergency
services for Riverside County felt that there might be a potential declaration next
week. He indicated that it allowed the City of Lake Elsinore to have funds
reimbursed for damage. He indicated that the City would have a chance to recoup
some or all the funds, provided that staff followed up with filing the appropriate
FEMA applications.
Mayor Magee referred to page 1 of 24 of the first packet. He indicated that the
second item listed under goals relating to the study session on Economic
Development and indicated that Council had received an updated Economic Report.
He indicated that Council had never received one and he had requested it in writing
a number of times. He referred to page 4 of 24. He indicated that he would
encourage the City to pariner with the Chamber of Commerce. He inquired if direct
deposit for employee payroll had been completed. Administrative Services Director
Pressey indicated that it had been completed. He referred to page 8 of 24 under
General Law Enforcement. He indicated there were 100 hours listed and the
Council approved 115 hours. Police Chief Fetherolf indicated that they had
discussed individual bodies and bodies did not translate according to the original
formula submitted, they had worked backwards to come up with an hourly
equivalent and he thought it to be less than 115. He indicated that he would check
the information to be exact. Mayar Magee referred to page 10 of 24 regarding
Planning and Zoning. He requested the addition of the MSHCP Implementation.
Mayor Magee complimented the Community Development staff on the attention to
detail they have given this particular issue.
Mayor Magee referred to page 12 of 24 regarding the Rental Housing Program. He
requested that City staff not spend any more money on this program, than was
absolutely necessary until after the public hearing. He indicated that the program
might not disappear, but it would be significantly altered based on input from the
shareholders.
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Mayar Magee referred to page 14 of 24 regarding the Community Services
Administration. He requested adding the completed purchase of property at Palomar
Road and Corydon Road and coordinate park plans with KB Homes for the Serenity
II project as a goal.
Mayor Magee referred to page 15 of 24 regarding Animal Control. He indicated that
one of the goals was to explore service options for animal control services. He
further indicated that on December 15`h, Council had requested that the item come
forward; and he required a timeline for the item. Community Services Director Sapp
indicated that he had received some information, an actual bid from the County to
provide services. He indicated that he was in the process of completing what the
cost would be to the City, if the City decided to fund and operate those services,
which would entail the actual construction of a temporary facility. Mayor Magee
inquired if there would be an appropriate contingency plan in that report. Mayor
Magee suggested that it not exceed 15% of the total budget.
Mayor Magee referred to page 16 of 24 regarding recarpeting the Storm offices at
the Diamond Stadium. He indicated that he had asked specifically about the
Conference Room and was told by staff that it was not going to be carpeted. He
indicated that under the major goals section it indicated that it was carpeted.
Community Services Director Sapp indicated that he might have given the wrong
information. He indicated that it was staff's intention to recarpet; and it was
recarpeted; and it was completed. Mayor Magee suggested that the Council add the
preparations and circulation of an RFP as approved by Council.
Mayor Magee referred to page 19 of 24 regarding reducing the percentage of City
vehicles with more than 100,000 miles. He inquired if the elimination of former
Assistant City Manager Best's and former City Manager Watenpaugh's vehicles
would significantly reduce the percentage figure. Public Works Manager Payne
indicated that it would reduce, but the diesel trucks play a major part in the equation.
Mayor Magee suggested separating the bigger diesel, from personnel/utility
vehicles.
Mayor Magee referred to the Status of Selective Service Indicators. He noted that
page 9, item No. 8, staff neglected to indicate that it was a percentage figure and not
that there were 27 vehicles.
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CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
City Manager Brady commended staff on the preparation of documents presented to
the Council for the Mid-Year Budget Review.
COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilman Hiclanan inquired if the selection of contractors was going out to bid to
a lot of business. He indicated that he would like to get most of the business into the
City. Administrarive Services Director Pressey indicated that staff did try to apply
to all of the contractors. He indicated that staff recently was able to find a vendor
for tires located in the City to keep the sales t~ local.
ADJOURNMENT
THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY STUDY
SESSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 6:20 P.M
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E. MAC~E, MAYOR
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DARYL HICKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
Respectfully submitted, ~
F D RICK , DEPUTY CITY CLERK
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VICHI KAS , CMC, CITY CLERK/
HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
NIINUTES
JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TiTESDAY, MARCH 22, 2005
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Magee called the Joint Study Session to order at 4:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: HICKMAN, KELLEY,
SCHIFFNER, MAGEE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY
(arrived at 4:08 p.m.)
Also present were: City Manager Brady, City Attorney Leibold, Administrative
Services Director Pressey, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy,
Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Recreation/Tourism Manager
Fazzio, Parks & Open Space Manager Fazzio, Planning Manager Preisendanz,
Building & Safety Manager Chipman, and Deputy City Clerk Ray.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
Mayar Magee gave an overview of the presentations; and confirmed that the
awardees would be present at the 7:00 p.m. meeting.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
None.
Agenda Item No.
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CONSENT CALENDAR
l. Minutes.
No comments.
2. Warrant Lists - March 15, 2005.
Councilman Hickman requested clarification of various checks issued on the
warrant list. Staff clarified the items.
Mayor Magee requested clarification of check no. 81170 issued on the warrant
list. Staff clarified the items.
3. Investment Reports.
No comments.
4. Salary Upgrades for Technical Positions.
Councilman Hickman inquired if this was for positions that were already filled.
City Manager Brady indicated that it was for vacant posirion for recruitment
purposes. He indicated that staff had not been successful in getting qualified
candidates for the Senior Engineer and Senior Planner positions.
Councilwoman Kelley requested an update on the promotions and number of
employees currently employed by the City of Lake Elsinore. City Manager
Brady indicated that Mr. Rolfe Preisendanz was promoted from Senior Planner to
Planning Manager; and an Assistant Planner was promoted to Associate Planner;
and the Community Development Technician was promoted to Assistant Planner
which left the Community Development Tecl~nician position vacant.
Mayor Magee clarified that money was an issue with the two Senior vacant
positions. City Manager Brady confirmed.
Agenda Item No.
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City Treasurer Weber indicated that Professional Engineer licensed average
salary was $85,000 minimum. He indicated that $65,000 was a low salary range.
5. Resolution No. 2005-28 - Funding Support for Community Development Block
Grant Funding.
Mayor Magee indicated that according to Community Services Director Sapp the
City received $260,000 annually.
6. Resolution No. 2005-29.
No comments.
7. Resolution No. 2005-30.
Mayar Magee indicated that Item Nos. 6 and 7 were related to the DR Horton
complex on Lakeshore Drive.
8. Reallocation of funds for the Interim Interchange Projects at Railroad Canyon
Road/I-15 and SR-74/I-15.
Councilman Hickman questioned the dollar amount in the fund. Administrative
Services Director Pressey indicated that there was a little over $2 million in the
fund.
Administrative Services Director Pressey explained that the fund was established
to pay for improvements along Railroad Canyon Road. Councilman Hickman
indicated that it would be taking money from the fund to pay for the work that
needed to be done on SR-74/I-15. Mr. Pressey deferred to City Engineer
Seumalo. City Engineer Seumalo explained that after reviewing the Railroad
Canyon Road fund there was a line item allowing monies to be used for the
Interchange. He further explained that the request was to replace the funds that
were approved by the 2004/2005 CIP with the Railroad Canyon Road funds; and
redistribute the funds that were previous approved for Railroad Canyon Road
back to their original funding sources; which would allow a funding source for
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SR-74/I-15 for the Interim Improvements. Councilman Hickman inquired if
there was a start date for the Railroad Canyon Road improvements. City
Engineer Seumalo gave the anticipated construction time frame of summer 2005;
and was currently in design for SR-74/I-15.
9. Approval of Final Map 32670, Condominium Subdivision by D.R. Horton.
No comments.
10. Approval of Final Map 32611, Industrial Subdivision by C& C Collier
Development Partners.
Councilman Hickman inquired if the City had run out of industrial space. City
Manager Brady explained that would be an issue that would be reviewed during
the General Plan Update. He indicated that the City might also need light
industrial land.
11. License Agreement with Castle & Cooke regarding Temporary Road Use
Connection between Nichols Road and El Toro Road.
Mayor Magee noted that he had just received a copy of the agreement from staff
and would not be commenting on the item unril after he has had a chance to
review the agreement.
Councilman Hickman questioned when the area would be paved. City Engineer
Seumalo indicated they were ready to move forward immediately.
12. Notice of Completion for Swick Matich Restroom/Concession Building.
Mayor Magee indicated that he was disappointed. He further indicated that after
spending $500,000 the project went over budget by more than $3,000. He noted
that there needed to be adequate contingencies in all of the budgets.
13. Authorization to prepare CEQA Compliance Documents far TTM No. 32786 -
Lakeside Palms.
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No comments.
14. Cooperative Agreement with Riverside County Flood Control and Water
Conservation District, and Cambern and Central Investors Parcel Map 32369.
No comments.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
21. Resolution of the City Council of the City of Lake Elsinore to vacate a portion of
3`d Street East of Collier Avenue for the Conshuction of a Water and Sewer
Pump Station - Resolution No. 2005-31.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that the City had received a threat of litigarion.
She requested that Council add an emergency Closed Session Item; and they
postponed the discussion of the item until there was a Closed Session Discussion.
Council agreed to add the item to the Closed Session Agenda. City Attomey
Leibold indicated that action was taken pursuant to Brown Act Secrion 54954.2.
22. General Plan Amendment No. 2004-05; Zone Change No. 2004-06; Amendment
No. 1 to Tuscany Hills Specific Plan No. 89-3. TTM No. 31370; Final EIR -
Resolution Nos. 2005-32 and 33, Ordinance Nos. 1144 thru 1146.
Councilman Hickman questioned if the Development would be joining the Home
Owners Association. Chris Holmquist, Centex Homes, indicated that it would be
joining the HOA.
Mayor Magee deferred to City Attorney Leibold regarding a letter received from
Mr. Haynes regarding the MSHCP.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that staff had received a letter from the adjacent
property owner. She indicated that the adjacent property owner was concerned
that habitat designation to the property in question might impact his property.
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She noted that the impacts it might have on other properties were not part of the
current discussion.
Mayor Magee referred to page 36. He inquired if the Centex group was satisfied
with the work hours listed in the Conditions of Approval. Mr. Holmquist
indicated that they were satisfied.
Mayor Magee commended the Developer on increasing the lot sizes. He
indicated that the Developer was bringing a better product to the City of Lake
Elsinore.
Mayor Magee referred to page 44, Condition No. 85, relating to the completion
of the 5 acre park on or before the issuance of the 300th building permit allowing
for the Community Services Director to make that determination. He requested
to have that changed to the City Council. Mr. Holmquist indicated that they were
satisfied with that change.
Councilman Hiclanan expressed his concern that this project was building two
Little League fields. He indicated that there were more kids playing soccer and
suggested a possible soccer field. He also expressed his concern that Canyon
Lake Little League might gain control of the fields and the Lake Elsinore Little
League would not be allowed to play on those fields. He noted the same thing
happened with the Canyon Hills Little League fields.
23. Industrial Project No. 2004-OS - Faruk Warehouse Building.
Mayor Magee questioned if it was a purpose built building. City Manager Brady
indicated that he believed it to be spec and there was not a tenant for the building.
24. Final EIR - Target Center.
Mr. Daigle requested darification on the credit they would receive for widening
the road, but no credit for relocating the electrical poles. City Manager Brady
indicated that under the TIF the City would reimburse for travel lanes. Curb,
gutters, sidewalks and those types of things were not included in the
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reimbursement process. He indicated that it did not cover moving power poles.
City Engineer Seumalo indicated that the TIF was intended for capacity.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that she could not recall a TIF fee credit
agreement being brought to the City Council. She indicated that it would not be
inappropriate if the Council wanted to consider the Fee Credit Agreement, to
require the item came before the City Council.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner questioned if there were any agreements that posed for
reimbursement for considering the sales tax on this project. City Manager Brady
indicated that there was not.
Mayar Magee suggested adding a Condition of Approval, directing staff to
prepare an agreement for consideration of in lieu fee credits to provide for up to
$260,000 for power pole relocation along Central Avenue.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that City Manager Brady had stated that Council
could provide for a reimbursement agreement with respect to other projects that
were benefited, such as a typical Infrastructure Reimbursement Agreement. She
further indicated that if TIF was not design to include these cost, she did not think
City Manager Brady was suggesting TIF reimbursement. Mr. Brady confirmed
he was not.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner suggested a sales tax reimbursement.
City Attorney Leibold suggested including a Condition directing staff to
negotiate and prepare a recommendation to the City Council for a fee credit
and/or in lieu of fee consideration agreement.
25. Public Hearing - Rosetta Canyon.
No comments.
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BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Second Reading - Ordinance No. 1141 - Zone Change No. 2004-07.
No comments.
32. Second Reading - Ordinance No. 1142 - CFD 2003-1- La Laguna.
No comments.
33. Second Reading - Ordinance No. 1143 - CFD 2003-1- Alberhill Ranch.
No comments.
34. Final report on the results of the Benefits Audit and Sub-Committee
Recommendations for Action.
Mayor Magee proposed a layout to be presented at the 7:00 p.m. meeting.
Councilman Buckley indicated that the second recommendation might need to be
deleted. He further indicated that it was a possible contracted issue with the
Union. City Attorney Leibold indicated that the recommendation was to review
and report back to Council.
Mayor Magee added another recommendation under the credit card section. He
recommended that all purchases be for City related items or travel expenses only
and that the credit cards were not to be used for any other business and
subsequently the City to be reimbursed.
35. Sale of Real Property located at Silver and Minthorn to the RDA.
Councilman Hickman questioned the funds the RDA had available.
Administrative Services Director Pressey indicated that the property was located
in RDA Project Area 1; and Project Area 1 had sufficient cash flow and a
sufficient fund balance.
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REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes.
No comments.
2. Warrant Lists - March 15, 2005.
No comments.
3. Investment Reports.
No comments.
' BUSINESS ITME
4. Purchase of Real Property located at Silver and Minthorn from the City.
No comments.
Chairman Hickman inquired if funds were available for the tax defaulted property
on Riverside Drive discussed at a previous CounciURDA meeting. Administrative
Services Director Pressey indicated that the delinquency was remedied and the
property was no longer available for sale.
Chairman Hickman inquired if there were funds available to demolish the
bungalows at Franklin and Ellis. Executive Director Brady indicated that there
were funds available in the Sixucture Abatement Program.
Boardmember Magee indicated that he was contacted by the President of the
Historical Society and informed that there was someone that wanted to
renovate the bungalows. He further indicated that he expressed the urgency that
they would need to bring them up to City standards in an expeditious manner.
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City Manager Brady indicated that it was staff's opinion that it would be almost
impossible to renovate and bring them up to code due to the type of construction.
5. Approval of funding source for RFP concerning the Lake Elsinore Diamond.
Councilman Hiclanan referred to page 8 of 11. He indicated that he did not think
baseball would be that big of a sport in 25 years; and he questioned if the new
owners would have the right to restructure and use the Stadium for something
such as an enclosed arena.
Boardmember Kelley indicated that the issue was discussed several times and the
result of their discussion was the RFP that would be distributed nationally.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that the item before Council was not the final
version. She indicated that the final version followed the RDA direcrion that
referred to continued use of the facility for Stadium recreational sports and
entertainment purposes.
Information/Communicarions Manager Dennis indicated that May l st was the
issuance of the RFP and July 15` was the deadline for responses.
ADJOURNMENT
THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY STUDY
SESSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 5:15 P.
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ROBE T E. M E, MAYOR
CITY OF LA LSINORE
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YL HICKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
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Respectfully submitt~d,
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F DE CK Y, DEPUTY CITY CLERK
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VICKI KASAD, CMC, CITY CLERK/
HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
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JOINT CTTY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TiTESDAY, APRIL 12, 2005
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Magee called the Joint Study Session to order at 4:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: HICKMAN, KELLEY,
SCHIFFNER, MAGEE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY
(Councilman Buckley arrived at 4:13 p.m.)
Also present were: City Manager Brady, City Attorney Leibold, Administrative
Services Director Pressey, Community Services Director Sapp, Lake & Aquatic
Resources Director Kilroy, Information/Communications Manager Dennis,
Planning Manager Preisendanz, Building & Safety Manager Chipman, City
Treasurer Weber, and Deputy City Clerk Ray.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
Mayor Magee gave an overview of the presentations; and confirmed that the
awardees would be present at the 7:00 p.m. meeting.
Mayor Magee indicated that there was a presentation from the Boys and Girls Club
that was inadvertently omitted. He indicated that it would be inserted between Items
C and D.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS
Bill Tiitto, Lake Elsinore, commented that the minutes did not reflect the comments
he had made regarding the audit. Mayor Magee indicated that the issues Mr. Tiitto
referenced would be in the March 22, 2005, minutes, not the February 22, 2005,
minutes which were on this particular agenda to be approved.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes.
No comments.
2. Claim Against the City - Susie Mejia (CL #2005-11).
Councilwoman Kelley commented that she was in disbelief that a soccer ball had
done $1,500 worth of damage.
Councilman Hickman indicated that there was not a warrant list on the agenda.
Administrative Services Director Pressey indicated that the warrant list would be
on the next agenda.
Acceptance of Planning Commission & Public Safety Advisory Commission
Resignations & Advertisement for Applications.
Mayor Magee requested a proclamation be prepared for Mr. iJhlry for the next
Council Meeting.
Mayor Magee suggested appointing a sub committee. He suggested that he and
Councilwoman Kelley be appointed to the sub comxnittee. He also suggested an
application deadline date of June 1 St
4. Lease of new Digital Copiers.
No comments.
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5. Approve Final Map 28214-2, a residenrial subdivision of Alberhill Ranch.
No comments.
6. Clean-up of former underground starage tanks at 161 South Main Street.
No comments.
7. Enter into contract with City and County Soil Engineering and Tesring Corp.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned if there was a possibility of additional
slippage.
City Manager Brady deferred to City Engineer Seumalo. City Engineer Seumalo
indicated that he had received an email that there were areas that were still
moving. He indicted that there would be some areas that they would strip down.
He indicated that staff had requested they investigate all the areas of risk.
Mayar Pro Tem Schiffner questioned if the Corporation did all types of soil
testing. Mr. Seumalo confirmed they did all types of soil testing. Mayor Pro
Tem Schiffner inquired if there was a firm currently under contract with the City.
Mr. Seumalo indicated that there was. He explained that the City typically uses
City and County Soil Engineering and Testing Corp to do all the capital
improvement testing and material testing.
8. Selection of firm to perform Professional Audit Services for fiscal years ending
June 30, 2005, 2006, and 2007.
Mayor Magee indicated that there was no coordination of sharing information
with the Council or the City Treasurer in the scope of work. Administrative
Services Director Pressey indicated that could be arranged.
9. Selection of firm to perform Impact Fee NEXUS Study & Feasibility analysis.
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City Treasurer Weber questioned if this was for new homes. City Manager
Brady indicated that it was for new homes and deferred to Administrarive
Services Director Pressey. City Manager Brady explained that the fees would be
used to fund various capital projects. City Treasurer Weber explained that new
home owners were already paying bonds and other impact fees and DAG fees.
He questioned how many more fees would be added. Mayor Magee explained
that the purpose of the study was to find out what could and could not be
assessed.
Councilman Buckley questioned the library fee and if this would modify that fee
in any way. Administrative Services Director Pressey indicated that the process
would be to update the current fee structure and could be added as part of the
update.
10. Professional Services Agreement for engineering and project management for
improvements to Boat Launch Facility.
Councilman Hickman inquired if it was in the $5 million price range. Lake &
Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy explained that the total project cost was $5.2
million with the study included.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner questioned if the approval of the contract would allow
for construction once the design was completed. Mr. Kilroy indicated that was
correct.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
21. Resolution to vacate a portion of 3`d Street east of Collier Avenue for the
construcrion of a water and sewer pump station.
He indicated that the item would be discussed in Closed Session.
Mayor Magee referred to paragraph two under the background section of the staff
report. He suggested adding the County to that paragraph.
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22. Public Hearing for consideration of objections to the City's Weed Abatement
Program.
Community Services Director Sapp indicated that staff had not received an
abundant amount of calls regarding the issue and did not anticipate a large turn
out for the 7:00 p.m. meeting.
23. Public Hearing on 2005 Justice Assistance Grant.
No comments.
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Second Reading - Ordinance No. 1145 - Zone Change No. 2004-06.
No comments.
32. Second Reading - Ordinance No. 1146 - Amendment No. 1 to the Tuscany Hills
Specific Plan No. 89-3.
No comments.
33. Second Reading - Ordinance No. 1147 - Zone Change No. 2004-02.
No comments.
34. Second Reading - Ordinance No. 1148 - Authorizing the levy of a Special Tax.
No comments.
35. Industrial Design Review No. I 2004-06 - Carl Johnson, Triple J Development.
No comments.
36. Commercial Design Review No. 2004-13 - Abbacy Holding Corp.
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Mayar Magee inquired if there were any tenants at this time. Planning Manager
Preisendanz explained that currently there were no tenants scheduled for the
building.
37. Special Use Agreement for Inlet Channel with California Skier.
Councilwoman Kelley inquired if there was any difference in the previous
agreement with California Skier. Lake & Aquatic Resources Directar Kilroy
noted that there was no significant difference.
38. Reimbursement Agreement with Home Depot U.S.A.
Councilman Hickman questioned why the City would assume responsibility for
construcrion of the interim improvements. City Manager Brady indicated that it
was the agreement made between the City and Home Depot.
Mayor Magee requested a date for the start of construction. City Engineer
Seumalo indicated that construcrion for City improvements would be a couple of
months behind Home Depot and could not give a date. He indicated that it would
be late this year or early next year for the City improvements.
39. Annexation consideration from the Riverside Local Agency Formation
Commission (LAFCO).
Chris Holmquist, Centex Homes, commented that LAFCO requested that they
returned to the City to request this annexation.
Councilman Buckley questioned if Centex Homes had contacted the people in
that area. Mr. Holmquist indicated that they had not contacted them and that
would be part of the process to find out if they were in favor of the annexation.
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
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CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes.
a. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting - February 22, 2005.
b. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting - March 22, 2005.
BUSINESS ITEM
2. Request for a loan of $135,000 from available non-housing funds in the Agency
Rancho Laguna Redevelopment Project Area No. 1 account.
Chairman Hickman indicated that the RDA Committee had requested the item be
sent back to the committee. He indicated that he did not feel there was enough
information in the staff report to consider the item.
Boardmember Magee indicated that the vote was 3 to 1, they deferred the item to
the RDA Board and he was concerned that now they were backtracking; and if
they were not going to stand behind their recommendation then he was not sure
the Board should continue the committee. He saw this item as doing something
positive. He suggested the item be brought back to the Board in 30 days.
Chairman Hickman indicated that the Committee was concerned about not having
enough information when they made the decision.
Vice Chairwoman Kelley suggested continuing the item and any
information needed staff would gather; the item did not need to be
sent back to the RDA Committee.
Legal Counsel Leibold indicated that the Committee recommendarion was to not
fund the loan from Housing Set-aside funds in which case the income and
affordability of the units were not relevant if the monies were drawn from the
Agency's 80% fund which was the recommendation of the Committee. She noted
that Mr. Alongi was present and had answered a lot of questions.
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Boardmember Buckley questioned who the money would be loaned to. Legal
Counsel Leibold noted that Mr. Alongi had offered his 3 units as security.
3. License Agreement with EVMWD for use of a portion of the Diamond Stadium
Parking Lot as an Underground Monitoring Well.
Chairman Hickman inquired if the project was completed. Community Services
Director Sapp indicated that it was completed.
Boardmember Buckley inquired about the time it took to complete the project.
Mr. Sapp indicated that the project took about 30 days.
4. Redevelopment Advisory Committee Goals and Objectives 2005.
No comments.
ADJOURNMENT
THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY STUDY
SESSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 5:00 P.M.
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ROBERT E. E, MAYOR
CITY OF LAKL~';
DARYL HICKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
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Respectfully submitted,
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FRED~ Y, DEPUTY CTTY CLERK
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VICKI KASAD, CMC, CTTY CLERK/
HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
Agenda Item No.
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JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFOIiNIA
TUESDAY, MAY 10, 2005
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Magee called the Joint Study Session to order at 4:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: HICKMAN, KELLEY,
SCHIFFNER, MAGEE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY
(Councilman Buckley arrived at 4:12 p.m.)
Also present were: City Manager Brady, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Pressey, Community Services Director Sapp,
Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Information/Communications
Manager Dennis, Recreation/Tourism Manager Fazzio, Parks & Open Space
Manager Fazzio, Building & Safety Manager Chipman, City Engineer
Manager Seumalo, City Treasurer Weber, and Deputy City Clerk Ray.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
Mayor Magee gave an overview of the presentations; and confirmed that the
awardees would be present at the 7:00 p.m. meeting.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Mayor Magee indicated that there was a request to speak on a Closed Session Item.
He deferred to City Attorney Leibold. City Attorney Leibold expiained that Mr.
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Larry Hathorn was listed as a negotiating party on the Agency Agenda; and
requested to make a public comment to the Agency Board.
Redevelopment Agency Chairman Hickman gave Mr. Hathorn the opporiunity to
speak at that time. Mayor Magee invited Mr. Hathorn to the podium for his
comments.
Mr. Hathorn thanked Mayor Magee and gave an overview of the documents that
would be presented in Closed Session. He gave some background information
about himself. He noted that the City was aware that affordable housing was
needed.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner questioned if the proposal had been submitted to staff.
Mr. Hathom noted letters dated March 2004 and May 2005 that were submitted to
the Agency and to the City.
CONSENT CALENDAR
L Minutes.
Bill Tiitto, Lake Elsinore, commented on item lb. He questioned if there was
anything questionable about the audit after the Council had completed their
review; and if so did Council request that those individuals pay back money to
the City. Mayor Magee explained that he and Councilman Buckley had written
a report; and there were some irregularities in the way that things had been
handled due to the lack of written policies. He indicated that new policies were
in the process of being written. He also indicated that Council would not be
requesting a repayment from individuals.
2. Warrant List - Apri128, 2005.
Councilman Hickman requested clarification of various checks issued on the
warrant list. Staff clarified the items.
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3. Investment Report - March, 2005.
No comments.
4. Claim against the City - Wayne Romanski, Sr. & Serrie Lynn Romanski
(CL#2005-15).
No comments.
5. Award of Contract - LED Traffic Signal Modules - Westem Pacific Signal -
$43,133.
Councilman Hickman indicated that there were different quantities for the red
and green lights; and the numbers varied drastically. Public Works Manager
Payne explained that it was based on actua] inventory.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner questioned if Item 5 and Item 6 would take care of
complete installation. Public Works Manager Payne indicated it did; and
recommended that Council approve both projects. Councilman Hickman
questioned the duration during a power outage. Mr. Payne indicated that it
would operate for 24 hours.
6. Award of Contract - Battery Back-up System for Traffic Signals - Steiny &
Company - $73,065.
No comments.
7. Fee Deposit and Reimbursement Agreement with Castle & Cooke Alberhill
Ranch, LLC.
No comments.
8. Fee Deposit and Reimbursement Agreement with Elsinore Lakeview Villas.
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No comments.
9. Fee Deposit and Reimbursement Agreement with Wasson Canyon Investments.
No comments.
10. Extension of time for Tentative Parcel Map No. 30302 - GW Commercial 87.
City Manager Brady indicated that there were items that needed to be modified.
He referred to the Conditions of Approval. He noted a date correction on the
top of the Conditions of Approval.
City Engineer Seumalo noted that the applicant have requested Condition No.
24 be changed to read "provide for reciprocal ingress/egress to Crane Street";
and Condition No. 26 be changed to read "access to Central Avenue shall be
subject to approval by the City and CalTrans"; and Condition No. 27 to read
"preserve the opporiunity to align the northwest driveway with the extension of
Alien StreeP'. He noted that both staff and the applicant were in agreement
with the changes.
Councilman Hickman referred to Item 21, he questioned if retention bases were
being required in most projects. City Engineer Seumalo confirmed.
Councilman Buckley questioned the extension. City Manager Brady explained
that the map would be expiring; and the applicant was a new owner. Planning
Manager Preisendanz indicated that the applicant was requesting a two year
extension. Councilman Buckley questioned why the new owner did not do a
new map. Mr. Preisendanz explained that they would be doing a new map, but
needed the extension or the map would become expired. Councilman Buckley
indicated that he did not see TLTMF fees and MSHCP fees. City Attorney
Leibold indicated that it was not a vested tentative map; and did not create any
vesting rights or exemption to TIF, TUMF, or MSHCP all the applicable impact
fees would apply to the project. Councilman Buckley reiterated that he did not
see it listed as a Condition of Approval. City Manager Brady explained that
although those fees were not listed, the fees were adopted by ordinance, so the
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applicant was still responsible for the fees. Planning Manager Preisendanz
indicated that the fees could be added as required Condition of Approval.
Councilman Buckley referred to Condition No. 26. He indicated that he did not
want to create another Railroad Canyon. He suggested the condition be
changed to include "right in right ouY'.
City Attorney Leibold proposed an added condition No. 68 that read "Applicant
shall pay out all applicable development impact fees including without
limitation TIF, TUMF, and MSHCP fees."
i l. Machado Street Pavement Rehabilitation between Lincoln Street and Crrand
Avenue.
Bill Tiitto, Lake Elsinore requested that the City Engineer be authorized to start
a drainage system in that area. Mayor Magee explained that was part of the
process.
Councilwoman Kelley inquired when the Riverside County Board of
Supervisors would be considering the item. City Engineer Seumalo indicated
that staff had been in contact with the County. He indicated that there was not a
date certain at this time.
Councilman Hickman inquired if the City had paid their share of the Mission
Trail project with the County. City Engineer Seumalo indicated that he would
need to research the Mission Trail project. City Attorney Leibold explained
that the City paid a portion of the City's share and the RDA incurred the
obligation to pay the balance.
12. Memorandum of Understanding for Joint Monitoring of Emergency Ambulance
Services.
City Manager Brady indicated that the MOU expired in 2003, and after
contacting the County he was informed that they had organizational restructure
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and the City did not get the MOU extended or a new MOU adopted.
Councilman Hickman questioned if it was the responsibility of the Human
Resources Department. City Manager Brady indicated that the letter was
addressed to the City Clerk's Office, but it was something that the County
monitors.
Mayor Magee indicated that in 2003 the County Grand Jury had issued a report
of AMR's services. He noted that they had asked for several changes. He
questioned if AMR had implemented those changes and if the County was
satisfied.
City Manager Brady indicated that he would need to research those changes and
report back to Council.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
21. Vacation of 3~d Street - Continued from April 12, 2005.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that EVMWD had adopted a Resolution on
Apri121 S`. She further indicated that staff was recommending a continuation
pending the actions of EVMWD.
22. Tentative Parcel Map No. 32911 "for Condominium Purposes", and Industrial
Project No. 2004-07 - Collier Avenue Business Park.
Councilman Buckley inquired if they were going to be any onsite sales.
Associate Planner Coury indicated that they would have some sales from the
site.
Mayor Magee questioned the square footage of the smallest unit and if it was
consistent with the LEMC. Associate Planner Coury explained that the LEMC
referred to lot size not unit size.
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Mayor Magee indicated that the design seemed as though it was a step back
into the plain industrial building's that were approved in the late 80's early
90's. He questioned if staff had any concerns about the design. Associate
Planner Coury indicated that staff did have concerns. He indicated that the
applicant had built the product in Lake Forest and he took a drive out to view
the project. He indicated that it was a good looking product. He further
indicated that staff wanted to accomplish a different design, so the City would
not get so much of the same thing.
Councilman Buckley suggested older vegetation. Mayor Magee concurred
with Councilman Buckley. Mayor Magee indicated that the standard was 24
inch box trees for every forty feet. He suggested 36 inch box trees and 48
inch box trees for a quicker impact. Associate Planner Coury requested
ciarification that the Council would lilce to see that along Collier Avenue as
welL Mayor Magee clarified. Mayor Magee suggested adding to Condition
No. 26, Item 1 to read "Applicant shall include significant amounts of mature
landscaping above and beyond the minimum standard required by the City.
23. Creation of a New M-3 "Mineral Resources and Related Manufacturing"
Zoning District - Ordinance No. 1150.
Planning Manager Preisendanz indicated that this was a reaction to the Pacific
Clay Annexation and other annexations that might occur in the City as well as
property in the City. He indicated that staff was looking for zoning districts
for
those types of operations.
Councilman Buckley inquired if Pacific Clay had planned on mining longer
than expected. Planning Manager Preisendanz indicated that the item before
Council was for the Development Code amendment, the annexation would
come befare Council as a prezoning in the future. City Attorney Leibold
indicated that under the terms of the Pacific Clay Development Agreement
there was an expectation that the mining activity would continue for a period
of time and the Ciry would permit the mining consistent with its existing
licenses which were incorporated as part of the Development Agreement.
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Councilman Buckley questioned if this should be brought to the General Plan
Committee. City Manager Brady explained that anytime you amend the
Municipal Code, depending on where the M-3 was applied it would still need
to be consistent with the General Plan.
Councilman Hickman questioned if this would interfere with the possibility of
having the freeway to Orange County through that area. City Attorney
Leibold explained that this was simply the adoption of a zoning district not an
application to any specific land.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner indicated that Pacific Clay Products were in favor
of alignment of road coming through that area.
Mayor Magee indicated that the code amendment was long overdue. He
noted that the County Courthouse was built out of granite steps pulled from
quarries in Wildomar and Temecula.
Mayor Magee referred page 14, Items d and e. He suggested that d and e have
some discretionary approval. He suggested that they be pulled from their
current section. City Attorney suggested it be moved to the Section
17.61.040. Mayor Magee agreed.
Mayor Magee referred to Section 17.61.050. He suggested a line be included
that required a buiiding permit for any structure. City Manager Brady
indicated that it could be added, but in the other zone designations it did not
believe the City required a building permit for structures. City Attomey
Leibold suggested adding to Item d and Item e"subject to the issuance of a
building permit", instead of adding line Item f.
Mayor Magee requested clarification that lawn and garden materials were not
permitted. City Attorney Leibold clarified.
Mayor Magee indicated that there was nothing in the staff report regarding
blasting and questioned if that was covered under Ordinance No. 555. City
Attorney Leibold indicated that staff would have an answer for Council at the
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7:00 p.m. meeting.
Mayor Magee noted that the standard hours of operations were listed 7 a.m.
to 7 p.m., Monday through Saturday. He indicated that it was inconsistent
with residential projects, but was common in the mining industry. He also
indicated that mining operations were also 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner suggested something that allowed a case by case
basis. Planning Manager Preisendanz indicated that staff could place more
restrictive measures near residential areas.
City Treasurer Weber suggested some type of screen be placed on the sites to
control the dust particularly when blasting. He also suggested designated
truck routes. Mayor Magee indicated that the mining industry had
regulations in place to control those types of situations. City Attorney
Leibold indicated that this operation was operating pursuant to an existing
surface mining permit.
Planning Manager Preisendanz indicated that any future development would
go through the CEQA process.
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Second Reading - Ordinance No. 1149.
No comments.
32. Waiver of Deposit to Lake Management Fund.
Councilman Hickman inquired if this would only be done for one year. City
Attorney Leibold indicated that the staff report was for this year only.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner suggested a requirement that this would be
replaced within a certain length of time. He indicated that he would prefer
to see the money set aside in a fund.
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Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner suggested that Council delete the last sentence of
the recommendation and the final document be brought back to the Councii
for approval.
Councilwoman Kelley suggested adding a statement that limited the number
of time the deposit could be waived within a certain period of time.
City Attorney Leibold explained that as long as all parties agreed the
agreement could be amended and modified.
EVMWD representative Kris Anderson agreed with City Attorney Leibold.
She noted that the Water District had only considered waiving this year
because the Lake was full.
33. Animal Shelter Options.
City Treasurer Weber indicated that he like the report presented by
Community Services Director Sapp. He commented that he did not
understand the distribution compared to other cities that had a larger
population. He indicated that his father-in-law was an Animal Control
Officer for 30 years for the County of San Bernardino. He indicated that he
had dealt with Humane Societies. He indicated that his father-in-law
suggested to him that a 10 year contract would be better.
Councilman Buckley indicated that the Animal Friends of the Valley were a
private organization and not a Humane Society.
Kris Anderson, Lake Elsinore Animal Friends of the Valley gave some
background on Animal Friends of the Valley. She noted that they had
increased their fees in 2000, after a study was completed.
Councilman Hickman inquired why it could not be broken into 4 equal
payments from 4 equal cities regardless of the animal intake. Councilman
Buckley commented that operation was based per animal and capital based
per animal because the ciries would be renting space. Councilman Hickman
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indicated that he had not plan on increasing taxes. He noted that he had
received phone calls from concerned residents.
Councilwoman Kelley indicated that the total cost would be $23 million
over 30 years. She questioned the figures presented by the Community
Services Department. Community Services Director Sapp indicated that the
County of Riverside had provided him with a contract with an estimate of
services. Mr. Sapp indicated that the Executive Committee_ had only met
twice, the JPA Board had a meeting scheduled for next Wednesday. He
indicated that there were too many unlrnown's at this point. He further
noted that the plans were only 60% complete. He indicated that he would be
more comfortable coming back before Council two weeks after the JPA has
had an opportunity to meet; and there might be more information.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned the duration of a temporary facility to
serve and meet the needs of the City. Mr. Sapp indicated that the current
temporary facility has been operational for 15 years. Councilwoman Kelley
indicated that if the Community Services Director was not comfortable with
the figures then she was not comfortable with the figures. She suggested
that she would be in favor of continuing the item.
Mayor Magee indicated that Council had made the request for alternatives
five months ago; and he had expected a report that was bullet proo£ He
indicated that Council had requested alternatives from staff not the JPA; and
to have a proposal that assumed no land cost and did not identify a site
eroded his confidence. He noted that the budget did not provide for food,
veterinarian services or for disposal. He also noted an annual operating
budget four times higher than what Animal Friends were currently
providing.
Mayor Magee indicated that in regards to the capital cost, there was the JPA
which had not formalize anything and staff temporary proposal with no site.
He indicated that it was incomplete. He indicated that there was also no
contingency. He indicated that he would agree to continue it until it was
more accurate. He indicated that staff needed to have the answers.
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Councilman Schiffner indicated that there were three options 1) join the JPA
proposal, 2) continue with Animal Friends and participate, 3) don't join the
JPA and start a City facility. He indicated that he agreed with the Mayor
and staff needed to take this seriously.
34. Award of contract - Kobata & Associate - Fire Station/Lincoln Street Park
Design, Plans and Specifications - $20,000.
Councilman Buckley inquired if Mr. Kobata conducted his on plan checks.
Community Services Director Sapp explained that Mr. Kobata did not
conduct his own plan checks; and they were sent out to a contract plan
checker.
Councilman Hickman questioned how long Mr. Kobata had been doing this
for the City. Community Services Directar Sapp indicated that Kobata &
Associates had been doing this for the City since 1986.
City Attorney Leibold clarified for Council that if Mr. Kobata was selected
to prepare the plans and specs, it was contemplated that the actual work
would be bid.
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes.
No comments.
2. Warrant List - Apri128, 2005.
No comments.
3. Investment Report - March, 2005.
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No comments.
4. Waiver of Deposit to Lake Management Fund.
No comments.
5. RDA Loan Request - George Alongi.
Boardmember Magee indicated that he had spoken with Mr. Alongi. He
indicated that Mr. Alongi had requested an up or down vote rather than a
continuance. He indicated that the items covered in the Chairman's memo
for additional information, he was willing to conceive to those as being
Conditions of Approval. He would satisfy those conditions before the loan
took effect.
ADJOURNMENT
THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOP AGENCY STUDY
SESSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 5:45 P.M.
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ROBERT E. MAGEE, MAYOR
CITY OF LAKE E INORE
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REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
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ATTEST:
REDERICK Y, DEPUTY CITY CLERK
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
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JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
THURSDAY, MAY 19, 2005
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Magee called the Joint Budget Study Session to order at 4:05 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMSERS: HICKMAN, KELLEY,
SCHIFFNER, MAGEE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY
(Councilman Buckley arrived at 4:15 p.m.)
Also present were: City Manager Brady, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Pressey, Lake & Aquatic Resources
Director Kilroy, Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Finance
Manager Magee, Planning Manager Preisendanz, Public Works Manager
Payne, Recreation/Tourism Manager Fazziq Parks & Open Space Manager
Fazzio, Engineering Manager Seumalo, Building/Code Enforcement
Manager Chipman, Police Chief Fetherolf, and Deputy City Clerk Ray.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Police Chief Fetheroif.
BUDGET REVIEW - FISCAL YEAR 2005-06
Mayor Magee indicated that the City Treasurer would not be in attendance
for the Study Session.
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City Manager Brady gave an overview of the item. He indicated that there
had been a previous study session on capital projects and the operating
budget. He further indicated that at this Study Session Council was being
presented with the RDA budget. Staff had updated the capital projects, and
the changes were indicated in the report per the request of the City Council.
City Manager deferred to the Administrative Services Director Pressey.
Administrative Services Directar Pressey gave a presentation on the RDA
budget and Lighting and Landscape District. Mr. Pressey directed Council
attention to the Low and Moderate Income Housing Fund. He indicated that
there was revenue in the fund of $2.8 million, which represented the 20% set
aside; and expenditures of $2.1 million; which would leave a net revenue
over expenditure of $684,000. He indicated that the expenditure line item
included debt service on some of the bonds and some loans to the project
areas that had deficiencies; which included Project Area 3. He indicated that
Project Area 1 had a short fall during the year. He further indicated that the
revenues of Project Area 1 had a significant increase of 22% last year. He
indicated that there was a projected $562,000 shortfall, based on
conservative estimates of the revenue projected for the year, and that the
expenditures would tighten up. He indicated that the fund was projected
conservatively to break even; and would be self sustaining from that point
forward. He indicated that it would be approximately six years out, that in
2011/2012 the fund would eliminate its current deficit fund balance or what
was available to spend. He indicated that the numbers did not include a
payback of the housing fund loan or what it owed Project Area 2; and that
plan would be developed in the next fiscal year. Mr. Pressey indicated that
2005/2006 would be the last year that the Project Areas would not be seif-
sustaining.
Administrative Services Director Pressey indicated that Project Area 2 was
the healthy fund. He indicated that it included revenue of $5.7 million. The
expenditures included a loan to fund the deficit in Project Area 1; and a loan
of the remaining balance of Project Area 2 was $8, 250 to Project Area 3, to
fund its deficit.
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Administrative Services Director Pressey indicated that Project Area 3 had a
significant growth in revenue at 26%. He noted that it would probably
maintain good growth. He indicated that the shortfall was $746,000.
Mr. Pressey indicated that between the three Project Areas, the RDA was
expecting a break even year in 2006/2007.
Mr. Pressey indicated that the Housing Fund had a quota for housing to
maintain for the City and the funds needed to be used for that purpose.
Administrative Services Director Pressey gave an overview of the
obligations that currently existed for the RDA. He indicated that there were
five bonds (95A, 99A, B, C, and D) were being paid from the Project Areas;
the initial amount was $7 million. He indicated that the Lake Elsinore
Recreation Authority lease payments were the responsibility of the RDA.
Mr. Pressey indicated that there was a two Owner Participation Agreement
with Walmart and Oak Grove Equities. He indicated that Walmart was
based on sales tax revenue it generated for the year. He indicated that Oak
Grove Equities had increased because it accrued interest and the sales tax,
based on the formula, had not equaled their projection ($170,000 per year
pay down). He indicated that it ended in 2016 and forfeited the balance that
might exist at that time. Mr. Pressey commented on the Amberidge loan;
which was currently held by Castle & Cooke. Mr. Pressey commented on
the Mission Trail loan with the County, which was due on June, 2007.
Administrative Services Director Pressey indicated that the fiznd deficit for
Project Area 1 was to be eliminated in 2011, Project Area 2 was 2010 and
Project Area 3 was to be determined.
Mr. Pressey gave an overview of the Lighting and Landscape District. He
indicated that there was a carryover balance from June 30, 2004 of
$264,000; and legally the City was allowed to maintain a 50% reserve.
Councilman Buckley inquired if the $264,000 for the LLMD was the reserve
amount. Mr. Pressey explained that it was the fiznd balance. Councilman
Buckley inquired if the LLMD could be used to renovate the lights along
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Lakeshore Drive. Mr. Pressey indicated that it was possible since the lights
already existed, but he would need to research the item to give a more
precise response. Councilman Buckley questioned what would be the
outcome of the owner participation if Walmart discontinued operations in
that location. Mr. Pressey explained that he would need to review the
agreement.
Councilman Hickman suggested adding an employee to the RDA budget to
solely handle RDA issues, beside from the legal issues that would be
financed through the RDA. Mr. Pressey indicated that item had been
discussed by the RDA Committee. He explained that currentiy the City
Attorney had been acting in that capacity and there had not been a lot of
activity. He noted that was the City Attomey's expertise.
Councilwoman Kelley clarified that on the RDA, the fees were just a place
holder and not actual billed hours.
Mayor Magee commented that the RDA function of the City Attorney had
been continuously revisited. He suggested that the RDA Committee come
up with a better alternative. He indicated that he was more than satisfied
with the firm's productivity on City business and the fee that they charge.
Ron Hewison commented that he indicated last year that Mr. Pressey's
budget was conservative. He commented on the revenue of Project Area 1,
2, and 3. He commented that the Attorney fees were at $200,000, but there
was $94,000 in operation cost for the separate plan attorney. He noted that
RDA budget was caring close to $300,000 in attorney related fees. He
further commented that the budget did not reflect potential land for sale. He
questioned why the RDA carried 100% of LERA, when LERA was 50%
City venture.
Administrative Services Directar Pressey indicated that the budget would be
on the June 14th agenda for approval. He indicated that staff was presenting
a balanced budget. He noted that Governor Schwarzenegger announced in
his May revised budget that he would be paying back city government one
year early.
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Mayor Magee referred animal control, page 4. He indicated that it was still
listed at $170,000. Mr. Pressey indicated that was to be reduced.
Councilman Buckley requested that Mr. Pressey explained that the RDA
revenue changed $984,000 for the RDA from LERA. Mr. Pressey explained
that preparing the RDA budget was to gain a better understanding of that
agreement and validate a few issues. The City had not included the RDA
portion of the Lake Elsinore Recreation Authority variable rate bond
payment. He indicated that he had increased the revenue coming from the
RDA and expenditures had already reflected the debt services.
Councilman Buclcley inquired about the Lead Worker and Code
Enforcement Officer position. Mr. Pressey explained that the Lead Worker
was more than an Equipment Operator. Mr. Pressey deferred to Community
Services Director Sapp. Mr. Sapp explained that the Lead Warker position
had a lot more functions and responsibility.
Councilman Hickman noted that in 2006 the City would be $2 million in the
red. He requested some possible recommendations from Administrative
Services Director Pressey. Mr. Pressey indicated that the biggest cost was
due in part to expenditures that were increasing, along with Police and Fire
Services. He noted that the bigger of the two were Fire Services. He
indicated that the City could effectively maintain one officer per thousand
citizens; by only hiring one officer would be a savings close to $200,000.
He indicated that the City was trying to do a joint venture with the County to
jointly fund the Rosetta Canyon Fire Station. He noted the Fire Station
would also service the County. He indicated that staff would be proposing
to defer the opening of Rosetta Canyon Fire Station; which would balance
the budget.
Mayor Magee commended Mr. Pressey on the proposed budget.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned if staff had received the goals and
objectives from the Chamber of Commerce being that the Council was
, placing $50,000 into the budget to help fund the Chamber. City Manager
Brady indicated that he had not met with the Chamber of Commerce. He
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indicated that he would schedule a meeting with Mr. Cousins. Mayor
Magee indicated that he believed that Mr. Cousins was updating that
information to provide more services and also gave realistic expectations.
Councilwoman Kelley indicated that she was pleased to see the additional
law enforcement in the budget. She noted that had been a focus of the
Council.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner questioned if the addition of a second Battalion
Chief for Fire Services had been added into the budget. He suggested
utilizing a Paramedic Captain as Acting Battalion Chie£ He indicated that
the Captain would be less expensive than an actual Battalion Chie£ Mr.
Pressey indicated that he would incorporate that in the adoption of the
budget and discuss the issue with the Fire Chief.
Councilman Buckley commented that the fireworks for the 2004 4th of July
celebration went over well in the community; and indicated that the City
might be able to coordinate with the Lake Elsinore Storm Baseball Team for
the 2005 4th of July celebration.
City Manager Brady indicated that there would be an agenda item on the
next agenda for fireworks.
City Manager Brady commented on the meeting with Fire Chief Anthony.
He indicated that they were reviewing a regional comprehensive overview of
all the stations; and they were concerned with having too many concentrated
stations in certain areas and not having enough service in other areas. He
indicated that they had requested additional time to complete the review.
City Manager Brady reiterated that Administrative Services Director Pressey
had put together conservative numbers for the budget, which was a positive
and safe way for the City to move forward.
Councilman Hickman indicated that the Stadium had to be sold and staff
needed to negotiate with the County regarding the Fire Station.
Mayor Magee indicated that he had five different items he had heard
mention during the Study Session. He listed the items.
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1. LLMD ability to fund the Lakeshore Drive historical lights.
2. The Owner Participation Agreement with Walmart.
3. Reduce the Animal Control Budget.
4. Review reducing the travel and education expenses.
5. The issue with hiring a Battalion Chief.
Councilman Buckley suggested increasing the contribution for the joint-use
library at the new high school out of the library fund for the next couple of
years. Councilwoman Kelley indicated that neither School District nor the
County Library system had approached the City for any of the book dollars.
Councilwoman Kelley advised that the money in the Library Fund was for
the future building of a City Library.
ADJO URNMENT
THE CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY BUDGET
STUDY SESSION ADJOURNED AT 5:10 P1~.
RC~BERT E. M~EE, MAYOR
CITY OF LA ELSINORE
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CITY OF L KE ELSINORE
MINUTES
JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, MAY 24, 2005
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Magee called the Joint Study Session to order at 4:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: HICKMAN, KELLEY,
SCHIFFNER, MAGEE
y ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY
(Councilman Buckley arrived at 4:08 p.m.)
Also present were: City Manager Brady, City Attorney Leibold, Administrative
Services Director Pressey, Community Services Director Sapp, Lake & Aquatic
Resources Director Kilroy, Information/Communications Manager Dennis,
Parks & Open Space Manager Fazzio, Building & Safety Manager Chipman,
Planning Manager Preisendanz, City Treasurer Weber, and Deputy City Clerk
Ray.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
Mayor Magee inquired from the City Clerk's Office, if City Treasurer Weber had
rclayed if he would be in attendance for the schedule Study Session and the 7 p.m.
meeting. Depury City Clerk Ray indicated that City Treasurer Weber had not
contacted the Clerk's Office. City Attorney Leibold indicated that she had spoken
with City Treasurer Weber and he did relay to her that he would be in attendance,
but did not specify which meeting. Mayor Magee gave an overview of the
presentations; and confirmed that the awardees would be present at the 7:00 p.m.
I ', meeting.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS
Jim Gardner, Lake Elsinore commented that a street light was needed on Samuel
Avenue; he indicated that the builder did not put a light in during the conshuction
period. He further indicated that it was a safety hazard; and suggested including the
item in the upcoming budget. He noted that there were a lot of kids on that street.
Mayor Magee indicated that he had spoken with Mr. Gardner; and after their
conversation, City Manager Brady visited the area. He deferred to City Manager
Brady. City Manager Brady indicated that the item could be placed in the budget.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes.
Councilman Hickman commented on the modular homes being built in the City.
He indicated that the manufactured homes across from Yarborough Park had a
cinderblock foundation. He indicated that it looked as though they were only
putting corrugated metal around the outer edge. He questioned if the City couid
mandate that cinderblocks be used. City Manager Brady indicated that it was
required that a cinderblock or poured stem wall foundation be used. City
Manager Brady deferred to Building/Code Enfarcement Manager Chipman. Mr.
Chipman explained that on those particular projects a different design was
submitted. He further explained that it was a corrugated metal that extends down
into the foundation and on the outside there would be a brick veneer to look
similar to a masonry foundation.
Mayor Magee commented on item la He referred to a comment made by
Chairman Lewis on page 7 regarding the attendance of other emergency services
within the City at the PSAC Meetings. Mayor Magee noted that the LEMC
stated "may attend" not shall attend. He requested that staff notify Chairman
Lewis and inform him that the City emergency professionals were not under any
obligation to attend the PSAC Meeting.
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2. Warrant List - May 16, 2005.
Mayor Magee inquired if there was one more payment regarding the Williams
settlement. Administrative Services Director Pressey confirmed that one
payment was left, which would be in November.
3. Appropriation limits for Fiscal Year 2005-2006 (Proposition 4) Resolution No.
2005-47.
No comments.
4. CDBG Funding/Cooperation Agreement - Fisca] Year 2006-07, 2007-08, and
2008-09.
No comments.
5. CR&R - Annual Consumer Price Index Increase.
Councilman Hickman indicated that the City was not complying with the recycle
program.
Mr. Ferrin indicated that the City was in compliance. He indicated that due to the
rapid growth in the City there had been a lot of noncompliance on the recycling
side of the residential development. He indicated that CR&R was working with
staff to ensure that the construction/demolition of debris from development was
in compliance. He noted that the City was not out of compliance, but was
currenfly at the 50% mark.
6. Auction sale of Surplus equipment.
Councilman Buckley inquired if H.O.P.E. would be able to use any of the items
listed. Mayor Magee inquired if the van being donated to H.O.P.E. was part of
this item. Community Services Director Sapp indicated that the bus being
considered for H.O.P.E. was not part of this agenda item.
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Community Services Director Sapp made a correction to the staff report. He
indicated that item no.3, which was listed as the first item, should be on the
surplus list. He indicated that it was listed in error.
Councilman Hickman questioned the number of buses. Community Services
Director Sapp indicated that the City had five, in which one of the buses was used
for parts. Councilman Hickman indicated that RTA wanted the buses back. City
Attorney Leibold indicated that the buses could be offered back to RTA under the
same guidelines proposed to H.O.P.E. Mayor Magee suggested removing the
buses off the list to give Councilman Hickman the opportunity to speak with
RTA. City Attorney Leibold advised keeping the items on the list, but subject to
a first offer to RTA to avoid the item being brought back to Council.
7. Exemption to Bid procedures - City Hall carpet.
Mayor Magee commented that he and Councilman Hickman went on a tour
throughout City Hall with City Manager Brady and the carpet was in need of
repair.
8. Authorization to prepare CEQA Compliance Documents for the East Lake
Specific Plan Amendment No. 8 for Lumos Communities.
Mayor inquired if HDR was the environmental consultants that handled the Lang
Project. City Manager Brady confirmed.
9. Authorization to prepare CEQA Compliance Documents for General Plan
Amendment No. 2004-10, TPM No. 32674.
Councilman Buckley inquired if the property was in the City. City Manager
Brady confirmed.
10. Authorization to prepare CF,QA Compliance Documents for General Plan
Amendment No. 2005-2 and Zone Change No. 2005-03.
No comments.
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11. Approval of Final Map 31706-3 - Pardee Homes.
No comments.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
21. Vacation of 3`a Street.
No comments.
APPEAL
22. Appeal of the Planning Commission's decision to deny Conditional Use Pernut
No. 2005-OS for Nadir Rabban and Abbacy Holding Corp.
Councilman Buckley questioned if the facility was going to be similar to a
7eleven or more like a delicatessen similar to the Bear Creek Market.
Matthew Preebie, Attorney for Nadir Rabban and Abbacy Holding Corp
commented that they had planned to attend the 7 p.m. meeting to present
information to the Council. He further commented that it was going to be a
service station with more of a market & delicatessen appeal, rather than a mini
mart.
Councilman Hickman questioned if parking was taken into consideration due to
bank employee's being able to find parking space. Planning Manager
Presiendanz indicated that there would be adequate parking.
Councilman Buckley indicated that the applicant was aware when it was
approved that it was not permissible, but continued with the plans under the
assumption they would be given a Conditional Use Permit. Councilman Buckley
read an excerpt dated August 19, 2003, which indicated that Mr. Preeble's client
stated "no alcohol would be sold whatsoever."
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Councilman Kelley requested more information on the construction of a barrier
to be placed between the establishment and the park. Mr. Preeble indicated that
both the developer and his client were willing to join together to build a barrier
consistent with the design of the building that would provide a buffer between
Summerhill Drive and against the view in which the park would have a sight line
over to the property.
Councilman Hickman suggested that the barrier be extended to the corner to
prevent kids from running across Summerhill Drive. He also suggested that steps
and an entrance be placed on the corner.
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Second Reading - Ordinance No. 1150.
No comments.
32. Amended Concessions Agreement to include PWC Rental and Food
Concession.
Councilman Buckley questioned if the individual renting PWC's along
Lakeshore Drive needed any type of use permit. City Manager Brady
indicated that the individual had a Temporary Use Permit.
City Treasurer Weber questioned the location of food items and if they would be
required to carry insurance. Mayor Magee indicated that the insurance would be
carried under the existing Concessionaire Agreement. Lake & Aquatic Resources
Director Kilroy indicated that some of the details had not been worked out. He
indicated that they would have prepackaged food and there would be a hot dog
vendor cart. He indicated that there should be something in the contract noting the
square footage of the area to be used.
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33. 2005 4`h of July Celebration.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner suggested not having an event. He indicated that
there would be a show at the Diamond which could be seen around the City.
He indicated that it was not necessary to spend $10,000 or $20,000 on a
second show.
Councilman Buckley indicated that he would be in favor of doing the second
show which would coincide with the Parade of Lights.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned if $10,000 would enhance the Storm show.
Dave Oster, Storm representative, commented that they had an ongoing
contract with the company that did their fireworks. He indicated that he was
not sure if the show could be enhanced because they receive a set fireworks
show for their games and for the 4`h of July Celebration.
Councilwoman Kelley indicated that the fireworks were well received in the
community last year and the event could not be on and off each year
depending on the Storm games.
Mayor Magee indicated that he did not see the need for two shows and
suggested alternating with the Storm to put on a show when the Storm was not
in town.
34. Branding and Pubiic Relations/Marketing RFP: Recommendation for
Professional Services Consulting.
Councilman Buckley gave an overview of the item. He noted that George
Bloomfield of Lake Elsinore Marketing Group was present for questions. He
also noted that a representative from Cresta West would not be present. He
indicated that it was decided to break the item into two phases. Phase One
being the development strategy phase; and Phase Two being the placement of
ads.
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He indicated that Phase One was the creation of the logo, color schemes, and
the strategy of where to target the PR. He indicated that Phase Two would be
redoing the sign on the trucks and new stationary and any paid advertisement.
Councilman Buckley indicated that the final creation would be a web based
marketing tool kit. He indicated that any business in town would be able to
download photographs, logos, bullet points, etc.
Councilman Buckley commented on the experience of Cresta West.
Councilman Buckley noted that the web site would inciude polling
information. He noted that the total dollar amount was not to exceed $92,000.
He indicated that it was the perfect time for the City to start this process.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner indicated that in his opinion Lalce Elsinare was
currently well advertised. He further indicated that there were probably 500
to 1,000 families per year that voted on their approval of Lake Elsinore when
they purchased a home in the City.
Mayor Magee noted that the Council had received a letter from Dennis
Malone, President of Hygrove Restaurants, in support of the proposal.
City Treasurer Weber question the estimated time for the payback.
Councilman Buckley indicated that selling a City as opposed to a product
would indicate a spike. The focus would be to bring new jobs not houses to
the City. He indicated that it would eventually bring an increase in per capita
mcome.
Councilman Hickman indicated that he was reluctant of the idea; but after
seeing the results of Branding and Marketing he visioned the property value
increasing and large businesses coming to the City.
Mayor Magee indicated that coordination with the Chamber of Commerce
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was not in the staff report. Mr. George Bloomfield commented that the
Chamber would be a part of the process. He indicated that this would help
manage the growth to come.
Councilwoman Kelley commented that she would have liked to have seen
some of LEMG work products. Mr. Bloomfieid indicated that his company
had been involved with some of the Councilmembers and their campaigns.
He indicated that LEMG had been involved with the Cities of Newport,
Irvine, Los Angeles, and West Minister; along with the Police and Fire
Deparrinent in those cities. He indicated that graphics had been LEMG's
expertise for over 20 years.
Councilmember Kelley indicated that with growth, it was perfect time to
revitalize everything. She indicated that she was concern with the cost of
Phase I and Phase II. She noted that it was possible according to the report
that Phase II might fall into the range bf $100,000 to $150,000, but did not
mean it would. She expressed her concern with the City ability to fund the
entire project.
Councilwoman Kelley commented that Mr. Bloomfield had stated he had
done work for Councilmembers. Mr. Bloomfield indicated that they had
created some material for Councilman Buckley, Mayor Magee, and Planning
Commissioner O'Neil a few years back.
Mayor Magee indicated that he was comfortable with a lobbyist because it
could be budgeted year to year. He noted the possibility to receive federal
earmarked money that warranted the risk. He further indicated that he was not
comfortable with the PR proposal.
35. Request for donation of van - H.O.P.E.
Councilman Hickman clarified that H.O.P.E. did not have to give any money
to the City for the van.
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
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CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes.
No comments.
2. Warrant List - May 16, 2005.
No comments.
Mayor Magee requested adding an item to the agenda to discuss personnel and
staff recruitment issues. City Attomey Leibold indicated that the Brown Act,
Section 5.4954.2 did allow for the adding of items after the posting of the
Agenda.
ADJOURNMENT
THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AG NCY STUDY
SESSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 5:30 P.
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RO T E. MAGEE AYOR
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JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, JiJNE 14, 2005
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Magee called the Joint Study Session to order at 4:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: HICKMAN, KELLEY,
SCHIFFNER, MAGEE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY
(Councilman Buckley arrived at 4:08 p.m.)
Also present were: City Manager Brady, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Pressey, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director
Kilroy, Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Recreation/Tourism
Manager Fazzio, Parks & Open Space Manager Fazzio, Building & Safety
Manager Chipman, Engineering Manager Ken Seumalo, City Engineer
Moehling, Public Works Manager Payne, City Treasurer Weber, Deputy City
Clerk Ray and Office Specialist I Soto.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
Mayar Magee gave an overview of the presentations; and confirmed that the
awardees would be present at the 7:00 p.m. meeting.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS
Bill Titto, 32296 Machado, questioned if any new City Policies had been
implemented.
City Attorney Leibold clarified that there were continuous City Policies being
implemented.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Minutes.
Councilman Buckley gave reference to minor corrections to item 1 a.
Councilman Buckley requested the wording be changed for a motion made on
lb item no. 32, Waiver of deposit to Lake Management Fund.
2. Warrant List - Mav 31, 2005.
Councilman Hickman requested clarification of various checks issued on the
warrant list. Staff clarified the items.
Councilman Buckley requested clarification of check no. 81996 issued on the
warrant list. Staff clarified the item.
3. Approval of Final Map 31706-3, a residential subdivision bv Pardee Homes,
located north of Canvon Hills Road and east of Railroad Canyon Road in the
Cottonwood Canvon Specific Plan.
No Comments.
4. Approval of Final Map 31706-4, a residential subdivision by Pardee Homes,
located north of Canvon Hills Road and east of Railroad Canyon Road in the
Cottonwood Can,~pecific Plan.
No Comments.
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5. Fee Deposit and Reimbursement Apreement with EVMWD and Castle &
Cooke Alberhill Ranch, LLC.
No Comments.
6. HTE, Inc. Software up~;rade: Contracts far Naviline. ORep, DMS Licensin~
Training and Technical Support.
No Comments.
7. Federal Surplus Property Program.
No Comments.
8. A~reement with T.G.A. Development & En~neerin , I~to provide Plan
Check Services to the Eneineerin Division.
Mayor Magee inquired who would be handling the item.
City Manager Brady remarked that it would be handled by the City Engineer.
9. Approval of Final Map 30395, an Industrial Complex located west of Pasadena
Street and north of Third Street.
No Comments.
10. Request for No Parking on Grandview Avenue and Sk la~ rive.
No Comments.
11. Improvement Reimbursement A~reement - Parcel Ma 3p O1 g7.
No Comments.
12. Improvement, Reimbursement and Cooperation A~reement for Construction of
"Hunco Way" Storm Drain with Home Depot U.S.A.
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Councilman Buckely questioned the reimbursement process.
City Manager Brady noted that they pay the fees and would be reimbursed.
City Engineer Seumalo clarified if the amount should cost more than the
expected fee they would also be reimbursed for any overage.
13. Request for fundin o~ f Temescal Canvon Grad Night.
Councilman Hickman noted that if were to pay for Temescal Canyon High
School's Grad Night, the Council should also take into consideration other City
High Schools.
Councilwoman Kelley commented on the issue. She indicated that no other
school had come forward.
Councilman Buckley questioned if this was ever done in the past.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
21. A Resolution of the Citv Council of the City of Lake Elsinore to Vacate a
Portion of 3rd Street East of Collier Avenue for the Construction of a Water and
Sewer Pump Station.
No Comments.
31. 2005 Julv 4`h Celebration.
No Comments.
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32. Resolution of Intention to establish Community Facilities District No. 2005-5
(Villa~es at Wasson Canvon).
Administrative Services Director Pressey requested a continuance for this item
until the next council meeting.
33. Potential Site for Boys and Girls Club.
Councilwoman Kelley requested that land proposed for this item be earmarked.
Councilman Buckley noted that the neighboring nursery sold for $14 million.
He suggested an appraisal be done on the property for the proposed item.
Mayor Magee noted that Council had shown support for this idea.
Councilwoman Kelley indicated that she was merely requesting that the land be
set aside since there needed to be a potential location set aside.
Mayor Magee suggested continuing the item.
34. Personnel Recruiting and Reor~anization.
Councilman Buckley commented that the City Clerk position would be a
negotiated contract with the perspective candidate.
City Manager Brady ga~e an overview of this item.
Councilman Buckley suggested removing the Part-Time Office Specialist
position.
City Manager Brady remarked that an increase in personnel was needed.
City Treasurer Weber commented that at his place of employment, a warehouse
with more than 1,000 employees, had 5 individuals that handled Human
Resources.
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Councilman Hickman suggested continuing the item.
Mayor Magee noted that Staff recommended a sub-committee.
City Manager Brady took the opportunity to introduce City Engineer Moehling
to the Council.
35. General Fund and LLMD Operatin B~udget for Fiscal Year (FI~ 2005-06 and
Capital Improvement Projects (CIP) Budg,et for FY 2005-06 throu~h 2009-10.
Administrative Services Director Pressey gave an overview of the item. He
noted that there had been previous Study Sessions on the item. He also
indicated that the budget was balanced for the Fiscal Year 2005-06.
Furthermore, he indicated an increase in public safety.
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes.
No Comments.
2. Warrant List - May 31, 2005.
No Comments.
BUSINESS ITEM
3. Pre-Proposal Conference - Diamond Stadium.
City Attorney Leibold gave an overview of this item.
4. RDA O erp ating Bud~et for Fiscal Year 2005-06.
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Chairman Hickman noted that the RDA had assumed financial
responsibility of the Lake and the Stadium.
Boardmember Buckley commented on Country Club Heights Ordinances.
ADJOURNMENT
THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOP T AGENCY STUDY
SESSION WAS ADJOi1RNED AT 5:27 P. .
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ROBERT E. MAG~, MAYOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
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JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFO1tNIA
TUESDAY, JiJNE 28, 2005
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Magee called the Joint Study Session to order at 4:04 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: HICKMAN, KELLEY,
SCHIFFNER, MAGEE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY
(Councilman Buckley arrived at 4:08 p.m.)
Also present were: City Manager Brady, City Attorney Van Blarcom,
Administrative Services Director Pressey, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director
Kilroy, Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Recreation/Tourism
Manager Fazzio, Parks & Open Space Manager Fazzio, Building & Safety
Manager Chipman, City Engineer Moehling, Planning Manager Preisendanz,
Public Works Manager Payne, Deputy City Clerk Ray and Of~ce Specialist I
Soto.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
Mayar Magee confirmed that Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy would
accept the Proclamation for Lakes Appreciation Month.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS
Bill Titto, 32296 Machado, questioned if Machado Street was approved in the
budget.
Mayor Magee indicated that the budget was approved at the last Council meeting,
and clarified that in the Budget Document for the Capital Improvements portion
the project Mr. Titto referred to was approved.
Mr. Titto also inquired about the Redevelopment Agenda and whether the budget
was approved to repair the north side of Machado at Larson.
Mayar Magee replied that a substantial amount of that area was in the County and
that the Engineering Department was trying to work with them on a coordinated
effort to address it.
Mr. Titto replied that the property he was referring to was City property according
to a map that he researched.
Mayor Magee indicated that the project will be addressed by the Capital
Improvements Project that was recently approved.
CONSENT CALENDAR
l. Minutes.
Mayor Magee gave reference to minor corrections needing to be done to item
1 b.
2. Warrant List - June 15, 2005.
Councilman Hickman requested clarification of various checks issued on the
warrant list. Staff clarified the items.
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3. Approval of Final Map 31706, a residential subdivision by Pardee Homes,
located north of Canyon Hills Road and east of Railroad Canyon Road in the
Cottonwood Canyon Specific Plan.
No comments.
4. Approval of Final Map 31706-5, a residential subdivision by Pardee Homes,
located north of Canyon Hills Road and east of Railroad Canyon Road in the
Cottonwood Canyon Specific Plan.
No comments.
5. Approval of Final Map 32008, a residential subdivision by Corman Leigh,
located west of Riverside Drive and Lakeshore Drive.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned if the original map was to include a gated
entry, community pool, club house and park area.
City Manager Brady replied that he would get clarification on that item.
6. Agreement with Jehn Engineering, Inc., to provide City Engineering Services to
the City of Lake Elsinore.
No comments.
7. City Wide Lighting and Landscaping Maintenance District and the Landscape
and Lighting Maintenance District No. 1 for the Fiscal Year 2005-06 - approval
of Engineer's reports and Resolution of Intentions.
Councilman Hickman questioned the maximum maintenance assessment per lot
for Peppergrove under the LLMD.
Administrative Services Director Pressey indicated that he would research that
issue.
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8. Resolution of Intention to establish Communities Facilities District No. 2005-5
(Villages at Wasson Canyon) and Resolution of Intention to incur Bonded
Indebtedness.
City Treasurer Weber gave reference to the staff report and how it indicated the
initial operating cost would be more than the General Fund could afford.
City Treasurer Weber requested clarification from Administrative Services
Director Pressey. Administrative Services Director Pressey clarified the item.
City Treasurer Weber suggested coming up with a plan to avoid additional
taxes.
Administrative Services Director Pressey distributed and gave an overview of a
handout regarding the CFD 2005-5, 2% Tax Rate.
9. Resolution of Intention to Annex Property into Community Facilities District
No. 2003-1 (Law Enforcement, Fire and Paramedic Services) and to authorize
the levy of a Special Tax within Annexation Area No. 13 (Villages at Wasson
Canyon).
No comments.
10. Annual Adoption of Investment Policy.
No comments.
11. Fiscal Year End Budget Adjustments.
Mayor Magee addressed Administrative Services Director Pressey regarding
the net cash of $565,000 and the discussion about the City not funding the
Lake Management Fund this year. He further suggested to the Council that
they could set the money aside to be applied towards next year's Lake
Management Fund.
Councilman Hickman approved of Mayor Magee's suggestion.
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Mayor Magee questioned City Attorney Van Blarcom on how they could set
this into place. City Attorney Van Blarcom suggested setting up a special
reserve.
12. Request for funding of Summer Concert Series sponsored by the Elsinore
Valley Arts Network.
No comments.
13. Authorization to prepare CEQA Compliance Documents for Zone Change No.
2005-OS and Tentative Tract Map No. 33486 (APN 379-150-001, 002, 041,
042, 043, 044).
No comments.
14. Autharization of an amendment far CEQA Compliance Documentation
Services for new projects, Tentative Parcel Map No. 33370.
No comments.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
21. General Plan Amendment No. 2005-01; and Amendment No. 3 to the Canyon
Creek Specific Plan No. 85-1; and Tentative Tract Map No. 32077; and
Mitigated Negative Declaration No. 2005-01.
Councilman Hickman questioned if there was a construction start date.
Rick Schedore, La Strada Partners, LLC., commented that they were scheduled
to commence grading in January 2006.
Mayor Magee thanked City Manager Brady for expediting the project.
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Employment agreement for City Manager/Executive Director.
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No comments.
32. Conditional Use Permit No. 2005-02 and Commercial Design Review No.
2005-03 - Jack-In-The-Box.
No comments.
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CONSENT CALENDAR
l. Minutes.
No comments.
2. Warrant List - June 15, 2005.
Councilman Hickman requested clarification of various checks issued on the
warrant list. Staff clarified the items.
3. Investment Report.
a. April, 2005
b. May, 2005
No comments.
ADJOURNMENT
THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY STUDY
SESSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 4:47 P.M.
ROBERT E. MAGE AYOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
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DA'R'YL HICKMAN, CHAIItMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
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CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
THURSDAY, JULY 7, 2005
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Magee called the Study Session to order at 3:04 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: HICKMAN, KELLEY,
SCHIFFNER, MAGEE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY
(Councilman Buckley arrived at 3:42 p.m.)
Also present were: City Manager Brady, City Attorney Mann, Administrative
Services Director Pressey, Community Services Director Sapp, Lake &
Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Information/Communications Manager
Dennis, Recreation/Tourism Manager Fazzio, Parks & Open Space Manager
Fazzio, Police Chief Fetherolf, City Treasurer Weber and Office Specialist I
Soto.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Community Services Director Sapp.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Leland Harrison, Distinctive Properties, noted that he would hold his comments
until the item he wanted to speak on was addressed by City Council.
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PRESENTATIONS
A. Boys and Girls Club
Councilwoman Kelley welcomed all the guests who were in attendance of the
Study Session.
She noted that the current Study Session was an offshoot of the June 14`n
Council Meeting, and how that agenda was the earmarking of 5 acres on
Mission Trail, which was City owned property for a future site of a Boys and
Girls Club. She pulled the item since there had been several questions that
arose in regard to the Boys and Girls Club, the services they provided and the
potential monetary and/or land contributions that would be expected from the
City of Lake Elsinore.
She mentioned that she would like to respond to any and all questions so the
entire Council would have the knowledge needed to make their decisions in the
future. She expressed that her goal was to turn every Councilmember into an
advocate for the Boys and Girls Club in our Community.
She was given marching orders from the June 14th Council Meeting to present
alternative sites, a business plan and the appraisal of the 5 acres of land to be
used for the prospective site. She had also mentioned that there was a question
presented to her about what the Boys and Girls Club could do that the City
could not.
She mentioned that she invited several regional and local boardmembers to
address the Council. She restated that her goal would be that every
Councilmember would leave with no questions unanswered, and that they
would be an advocate for bringing a Boys and Girls Club into Lake Elsinore.
She stated that she had several guests she invited that she would like to speak
on the item. She mentioned that her first guest, Sheriff Doyle, would not be
present.
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Joan Sparkman, Boys and Girls Club Regional Boardmember, remarked that
she looked at the Boys and Girls Club from the prospect of an educator. She
gave a brief overview of her personal background. She mentioned that she was
aware of what had been happening to our children today, especially in the K-12
system. She explained children were at risk after school and before school
because parents were working. She indicated that the Boys and Girls Club
filled that gap. She mentioned that they take care of children from ages 6 to 18
years of age, and that their facility was available from 630 a.m. to 7 p.m. She
also mentioned that they provide snacks to the children, take them to school and
pick them up from school. After they pick them up from school they do their
homework, they get another snack, their parents pick them up and they go
home. She exclaimed that the club was a safe haven for children. She further
encouraged the consideration of a Boys and Girls Club in regard to the
environment today. She reiterated that it was not a babysitting club, and that
they teach culture skills, self discipline and respect for others, in addition to
many other topics. She stated that if there were kids at risk in the community, it
would be wise to strongly consider a Boys and Girls Club.
Terry Gilmore, Boys and Girls Club Regional Boardmember, remarked that he
was filling in for Sheriff Doyle. He gave an overview of his past experience
when he first got involved to try and organize a Boys and Girls Club. He
explained that he was a business person and that he and his partner, who owned
Lake Chevrolet, had always been committed to youth organizations. He
explained that 41 % of their employees used the Boys and Girls Club. He also
remarked that one of the benefits of having the Club was that it was an option
for parents and their children.
Councilman Hickman stated that he brought the thought of a Boys and Girls
Club to the Council two years ago. He then questioned Mr. Gilmore on what
they expected from the City for monetary and land contribution.
Mr. Gilmore stated that they had a set business module that they knew they
could operate from. He further stated that the business module was only altered
by the amount of scholarships they provided. He explained that the only way to
pay the difference would be by way of a fundraiser. He stated that their auction
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generated an estimated half a million dollars that went toward the payment of
the difference. He mentioned the same type of thing would have to happen in
this City. He stated that the City would have to help them acquire some land.
Councilman Hickman questioned Mr. Gilmore in regard to confirmation that
Boys and Girls Club did not expect any long range costs from the City to help
finance the program.
Chris Olson, Chairman of the Boys and Girls Club, gave an overview of his
background with the Club. He stated that he had put a business plan together
for the Council. He also stated that the three things they would need in order to
start a Boys and Girls Club would be land, capital and first year operating
dollars, as well as a committee comprised of business people from Lake
Elsinore and surrounding areas that would be willing to do on-going
fundraising. He gave an overview of the business plan and the need for
community support.
Mayor Magee questioned Mr. Olson about the ideal acreage needed for a Club
site. Mr. Olson responded by stating the various acreage of sites in surrounding
communities.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner questioned if a building site would be acceptable if it
were already part of a park or recreational facility. Mr. Olson replied that their
Murrieta location was located on the California Oaks Sports Park, and such a
site would be acceptable.
Mr. Gilmore commented that all of their sites had a different number of
facilities. He then gave an overview of sites in surrounding communities.
Mayor Magee asked for clarification on the definition of a scholarship.
Mr. Gilmore replied that they receive Community Development Block-Grant
funding from the United Way and various surrounding Cities.
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Michelle Arellano, President of the Boys and Girls Club, gave an overview of
the Boys and Girls Club. She also added information about the skills learned
and programs provided for the children's character development and leadership
skills. She fitrther noted the education of their staff and their ability to care and
relate to children.
Linda Sanford, Community Connections, gave an overview of the operation and
background of Community Connections. She had mentioned a general survey
that they had sent out to parents and children. The response from 4`~' through 6`n
graders listed their top three issues as being child care, tutoring and youth
recreation. She indicated that those responses were an eye opener for them.
She felt strongly that the Boys and Girls Club would be able to fulfill the needs
of the children in the community.
Mary Jo Ramirez, Planet Youth, explained that she had been a resident of Lake
Elsinore for the past 14 years. She mentioned that she was in favor of having a
Boys and Girls Club. She gave a brief background with her experience at
Planet Youth. She spoke of the idea of Planet Youth partnering up with the
Boys and Girls Club - and, how funding they already received could be utilized
for both facilities. She mentioned how she was involved with non-profit
transportation in the Hemet area through Riverside County Transportation
Commission, and how she spoke to them about the possibility of helping with
the operating costs for transportation - and, they said that was doable. She
mentioned that they would need vans, and had hoped those would be donated
through our Auto Mall.
Councilwoman Kelley gave an overview of all the speakers and clarified the
topics they spoke on.
City Treasurer Weber thanked the guest speakers of the Boys and Girls Club for
their dedication. He gave an overview of his past experience with the Club. He
questioned the number of volunteers and the budget operating costs of the Boys
and Girls Club.
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Ms. Arellano indicated that the costs stated in the operating budget went toward
the facility, staffing and transportation.
City Treasurer Weber inquired on the salary of staff working at the Boys and
Girls Club.
Chris Olson, Chairman of the Boys and Girls Club, stated that salary range for
the minimum entry-level positions started out at $10-11 an hour. He noted that
executive salaries went much higher.
City Treasurer Weber questioned the number of executive staff employed by
the Boys and Girls Club.
Ms. Arellano indicated that there were four executive positions.
City Treasurer Weber made reference to the business plan that had been
distributed. He stated how the business plan was more of an overview than an
itemized breakdown of their operating budget.
Mr. Olson stated that he had prepared a budget for the Lake Elsinore facility.
He mentioned that there was a lot of uncertainty with transportation being such
a big cost. He stated that he had prepared a rough budget for Lake Elsinore and
would be happy to forward it to City Treasurer Weber and the Council.
Councilwoman Kelley remarked that the Boys and Girls Club did not ask for
money to operate the facility, money to operate the facility would come from
donations.
Mr. Olson stated that the community was in charge of raising the first year's
operating dollars.
City Treasurer Weber inquired if the Boys and Girls Club was looking for the
City to build a facility. He also questioned the cost of the Hemet facility.
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Mr. Olson stated that the cost of the Hemet facility was estimated at $600,000
without donations.
Councilwoman Kelley stated the Boys and Girls Club was in need of a site, and
from that point forward there would need to be collaboration with builders,
developers, community members, volunteers and the local board. She also
mentioned that none of the Boys and Girls Club operating costs would be
coming from the City's general fund.
City Treasurer Weber questioned if there was discounts for parents with more
than one child in the program.
Mr. Olson replied that 40% of the children at their facilities were on
scholarships, and they did not offer those kind of discounts.
Councilman Hickman asked for clarification that the Boys and Girls Club was
not looking for any money from the City.
Mr. Olson stated that they are looking for the Community to support it.
Mr. Gilmore stated that in the Cities they were in, they receive Community
Development Block-Grant funding to offset some of the scholarship costs.
Mayor Magee gave reference to Mr. Gilmore's earlier statement that the City of
Murrieta and Temecula donates $15,000 each toward scholarships.
Mr. Gilmore indicated that statement was true; however the amount donated
went up at times. He also stated that the key to building a strong foundation
was the land.
Mayor Magee commented that upon speaking to Councilman Washington the
Boys and Girls Club was flexible with land for the site, and that they would
make the site work and could accommodate a long-term lease, purchase or
deed.
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Councilman Hickman stated that the proposed site for the Boys and Girls Club
bordered the County, he further suggested if the County might be able to help
out in any way.
Mr. Gilmore stated that help from the County was very possible.
Councilman Hickman questioned if the land for the proposed site had been
appraised.
Councilwoman Kelley stated that the appraisal was in the works.
Councilman Hickman asked the members of the board to explain the difference
between the Boys and Girls Club and the YMCA.
Ms. Arellano replied that the YMCA had good programs and focused a lot of
attention on the whole family. She stated that the Boys and Girls Club
programs strictly focused on the youth. She mentioned that their programs had
been time tested over the years. She stated that the I'MCA was not quite as
strong in the area of youth as the Boys and Girls Club.
Councilman Hickman asked far the Boys and Girls Club recommendation on a
site for the facility.
Mr. Olson commented that they would look at any site the City proposed,
however they would like to try and position the facility close to schools.
Mr. Gilmore commented that a facility by a school would contribute to lower
transportation costs.
Councilman Hickman questioned if the vans operate all day, or just in the
morning and afternoon.
Mr. Gilmore responded that their vans operate in the morning and aftemoon to
transport children to and from school. He stated that in the summer, the
Summer Camps utilize the vans for all of their field trips.
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Councilman Hickman questioned if they ever considered going to RTA with
dial-a-ride.
Mr. Gilmore replied that over the past few years RTA donated a couple of 24-
passanger vans.
Councilman Hickman questioned Recreation/Tourism Manager Fazzio on the
difference between our Community Center and the Boys and Girls Club.
Recreation/Tourism Manager Fazzio replied that the Community Center was
not quite as structured. She mentioned they only have a drop-in program for the
children. She also stated that at most they only serve a 5-mile radius. She
indicated that they provided an after school program for the kids, drop in
basketball, homework time, snack, field trips and a sttmmer day camp. She also
stated that they serviced the elementary and middle school children.
Councilman Hickman questioned Recreation/Tourism Manager Fazzio whether
or not the Community Center competed with the Boys and Girls Club.
Recreation/Tourism Manager Fazzio stated that she did not think it competed
since they did not reach all of the community due to transportation issues.
Councilman Hickman clarified with the boardmembers if they would prefer to
be near a middle school.
Mr. Gilmore replied that would be a premier location for the facility.
Councilman Hickman questioned Community Services Director Sapp about the
CDBG and the possibility of getting money from them for the facility.
Community Services Director Sapp replied that it was a very good possibility.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner stated that he was supportive of the program.
However, he stated that he was not in favor of the locations that had been
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shown for the facility. He indicated that he would like to see the program go
forward.
Councilwoman Kelley stated that she had a pledge of $50,000 for the first
year's operating expenses. She also mentioned that the first item they needed
was a site located before they could get any other interests involved. She also
mentioned that the rapid growth in the area would lead to having multiple sites.
Ms. Sparkman stated that when she was a part of the school board they were in
need of sites for after school programs. She indicated that she went to
developers to get them to donate their sales offices, double-wide trailers, which
the developer moved on to the site. She suggested considering that idea to save
money.
Mayor Magee expressed his support towards the Mission Trail site due to the
fact that side of the Lake did not have anything of that nature. He also
mentioned that there were several school sites in and around that area that fell
on County property that service City residents. He also mentioned that the site
allowed easy access; it was property the City owned and was located between
two approved residential developments. He also stated that there was a great
need for this kind of program in our Community and he was in full support of
the idea. He suggested a long-term lease for the proposed site would be an
excellent idea.
Councilman Buckley questioned the transport costs for the Mission Trail site
since it was located on a bus line.
Mr. Gilmore clarified that the transport cost that they were speaking of were
related to the vans they would purchase, the driver, fuel and the insurances.
Councilman Buckley questioned how much land would be needed for the site.
Mr. Gilmore replied that it depended on the site and proceeded to give an
overview of the acreage on sites located in neighboring Cities.
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Councilman Buckley questioned the CDBG issue and the possible funds that
could come out of that.
Community Services Directar Sapp clarified the issue. He mentioned that when
working with the County there was potential to get additional money for
construction.
Councilman Buckley questioned if the School District had been approached
about land.
Mr. Gilmore replied that they had not approached the School District about
land. He stated that they believed the children did not enjoy staying on school
campuses after school.
Councilman Buckley commented on a piece of City owned property located off
Riverside Drive by the campground.
Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy stated he believed that property was
already committed to the Pyramid Enterprises development.
Councilman Buckley questioned the square footage of the City's Community
Center.
Community Services Director Sapp replied it was an estimated 4,000 square
feet.
Councilman Buckley suggested using the Community Center as a proposed site
for the Club, and questioned the Boardmembers if that would be sufficient or if
they would prefer to build their own site.
Ms. Arellano remarked that the focus was what best suited the children.
Councilwoman Kelley commented that the one draw back with the Community
Center was that there was not a park in that same location; and that outdoor
activities were an intricate part of the Boys and Girls Club.
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Councilman Buckley questioned if the Boardmembers would want a
commitment for all of the proposed Mission Trail site, or be willing to take a
portion.
Mr. Gilmore questioned the total acreage of the site.
Councilman Buckley replied that it was 5.4 acres.
Mr. Gilmore replied that the site would be utilized the best way possible in
regard to what the Community was looking for.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner commented that the Mission Trail site was in the
vicinity of approximately 3,000 new homes to be built in the next three years.
He stated that the site was the best choice the City had available at this time.
Councilman Hickman remarked that all the new developments that come in
required a park, and questioned whether the Boys and Girls Club could be put
in the park.
Community Services Director Sapp stated that the parks master plan identified a
number of future community centers. He then ga~e a brief description of the
community parks in various developments around the City.
Councilman Hickman concurred with Community Services Director Sapp's
statement and that his main concern was with the growth and youth population
of the future. He recommended to look at the parks that the City had, and to
start out the Boys and Girls Club that way.
Mayor Magee replied that the message being sent to Staff was that as new
developments come forward to have the development community consider a
Boys and Girls Club alternative as one of the options to their park and open
space requirement. He stated that over the course of the next several years that
would be a great idea looking forward. He mentioned that where they were at
presently would be to proceed with the site located at Mission Trail.
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Councilwoman Kelley commented that the growth of the Boys and Girls Club
would be years down the road.
Councilman Hickman stated Lumos Communities was coming in that area. He
mentioned that they would be willing to build a building.
Leonard Leichnitz, Lumos Communities, indicated that he did not believe that
any area within his project would be appropriate for a Boys and Girls Club
because all of his development was below the flood plain. He noted that they
would have parks and fields, but they could not have buildings there.
Bob Parmilee, Castle & Cooke, indicated that they were very excited about the
development within the community. He noted that within their Alberhill Ranch
project there was a community parkthat was approximately 30 acres. He
mentioned the idea of locating the Boys and Girls Club on that site. He noted
that they would be willing to financially contribute or to provide construction
services to help build something. He expressed interest that their company
wanted to be apart of it.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner remarked that Castle & Cooke's project had a 1,000
to 1,500 houses, and noted various developments surrounding the project. He
suggested representatives of the City meet with Castle & Cooke regarding their
proposed space for the Boys and Girls Club.
Councilman Buckley suggested devising a Resolution that would encompass a
piece of publicly owned property, with a school near by, public transport
adjacent, 4-acre minimum that would consider existing structures and parks to
create a City Policy far future development for expansion.
Mr. Gilmore commented that looking forward to the future for prospective sites
would be a great idea to ensure that the City did not pass up any opportunities
made available.
Councilman Buckley questioned if the Boys and Girls Club needed specific
parameters for the proposed site.
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Mr. Gilmore replied that they were able to adapt to any site. He stated that once
the site was identified they would go to work on the best way to utilize the
property.
Councilman Buckley questioned if the Boys and Girls Club would like the
opportunity to view several proposed sites or if they would like the City to
designate which site they could utilize.
Mr. Gilmore stated that they would like to be involved with the selection
process of choosing a site.
Councilwoman Kelley reiterated that the Boys and Girls club was looking for
Council direction to tell them where to locate since the Council knew the City
best.
Mr. Olson commented that he had lived in Lake Elsinore since 1976 and had
been brought up through the school system. He noted that the Community
Center would not be a good facility for the Boys and Girls Club since there was
no open space and no place for the kids to play outside. He mentioned that they
would be willing to take the commitment; and that the longer it took to find a
site, the longer the process of putting things into place would be delayed. He
reiterated the fact that they would like to be involved with the selection process
of a proposed site. He stated that if they had developer support, their first site
choice would be to look at Alberhill.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned Council if they felt it was reasonable to put a
Boys and Girls Club in the Alberhill site as a start.
Councilman Hickman commented that every park to be put in the subdivisions
should have a Boys and Girls Club.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned how many Boys and Girls Clubs could be
operated within the City.
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Mr. Olson replied that more than one facility could be operated within the City.
He stated that as long as they had the infrastructure it would be easy to add
other locations.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner commented that they should first consider speaking
to Castle and Cooke in regard to putting a Boys and Girls Club in their Alberhill
Ranch development. He mentioned that they would not be able to make a
decision at that Study Session regarding the location of the first Boys and Girls
Club, but that they could commit to the idea and support putting one in Lake
Elsinore as quickly as possible.
City Treasurer Weber commented that one of the big costs for the Boys and
Girls Club would be having the resources available in regard to construction
personnel and equipment, and to move forward in a timely manner would save
money.
Mayor Magee questioned Councilwoman Kelley if she felt she had sufficient
direction from Council in what they were willing to support.
Councilwoman Kelley replied that she felt she had enough support and
direction to move forward. She thanked the individuals who spoke on the Boys
and Girls Club to show their support.
Mayor Magee thanked everyone for coming and showing support for the
community.
THE CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION WAS RECESSED AT 4:42 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION RECONVENED AT 4:50 P.M.
Mayor Magee called the Study Session back to order and introduced
Administrative Services Director Pressey to speak on Item b.
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Administrative Services Director Pressey stated that the project was awarded to
Harris and Associates to perform the Development Impact Study and gave an
overview of that project.
Administrative Services Director Pressey made reference to Item b on page 2 of
42 of the staff report. He made reference to the City Hall and Public Works
Facilities, Community Center Facilities, Marina Facilities, Aquatic Facilities,
and Animal Shelter Facility. He stated that the Impact Study for the City Hall,
Community Center and Marina was taking the City's current level of service.
He stated that meant taking the current facilities we had and comparing it to the
existing population to come up with a cost per resident, and to take that cost per
resident and multiply it by number of future residents to end up with the cost of
the future to maintain the current level of standard for those facilities and that
would come in the form of an Impact Fee for future development. He
commented that future development would pay their own way for maintaining
the current level of standards for those facilities.
Administrative Services Director Pressey commented on the Aquatic Facility
and Animal Shelter. He stated that the City did not have an Aquatic Facility
and that the Animal Shelter had been tapped out. He stated that the City desired
to increase the service level standard by haaing an Aquatic Facility versus not
having one. He stated the proposed Animal Shelter had a$9 million
construction price tag. He stated that the bonds for the project were an
estimated $21 million; which included the cost of issuance and interest. He
stated that the total cost would include what the fee stated on page 2 of 42.
Administrative Services Director Pressey commented on the concern that
adding all these fees would increase the price, and that the developer would
pass it on to the homeowner. He suggested that at some point it may be too
costly for the developer to build. He suggested the development community is
benefiting from significant increases in the price of a home, but stated that they
also have an increase in costs associated with it. He stated the ultimate building
of the property would eventually occur. He commented on the supply of land
diminishing, while the demand for housing had increased. He also stated that as
the value of the property had gone up in the last four years; and at certain points
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one week of the value increase would pay for practically all the impact fees. He
addressed the concem that the Impact Fee was rolled over into the price of the
home. He stated that the developer would charge what the market would bear.
He commented that beyond the economics of what the developer could afford,
we needed to look out into the future of the community and what were the
facility needs.
Administrative Services Director Pressey stated that the Marina and Aquatic
facility would be a good thing to have and would also be something the
community could benefit from. He stated that as the City builds out would the
City want to have and operate such facilities or would it look to the private
sector or school district to have joint sharing agreements. He stated that in
regard to the animal shelter we were required by law to have animal control.
He stated that the fee would build in an impact fee based on the proposal that
stands.
Mayor Magee questioned if we have received any written comments with
respect to the staff report.
Administrative Services Director Pressey stated that the Study Session was the
first time the document has been made available to the public and that there had
not been any comments received.
Leland Harrison, Distinctive Properties, stated that there was a need for new
public buildings, however there was a shortage for affordable housing. He
stated that increasing fees to developers may hurt construction and investment
efforts. He stated that it may be possible for large developers to pay for all and
any projects, but for many local and small developers those fees would impact
their businesses. He stated that the fees would be passed on to consumers who
are already struggling to find affordable quality housing. He encouraged
Council to be careful in their decisions regarding financial or impact fees.
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Mayor Magee questioned page 5 of 42 regarding the Community Center and the
replacement costs. He inquired if it was specific to the Community Center on
Graham and then replicating that in other areas.
Administrative Services Director Pressey replied that was correct, and it would
include the Community Center, Senior Center and Centennial Station.
Mayor Magee questioned the Marina facility and that the fee would be for
maintenance and not to build a new facility.
Administrative Services Director Pressey stated that fee was for future Marina
related facilities.
Jim Miller, Harris and Associates, stated that the idea behind setting up the fees
would be to establish what the existing level of service was for the City, and to
establish what the cost was on a per person basis which would set a fee for new
development to provide funding for the expansion of the facility so the level of
service stayed the same as the population grew.
Mayor Magee questioned the Aquatic Center and if that was in regard to a
community pool.
Administrative Services Director Pressey confirmed that was correct.
Mayar Magee questioned if Animal Friends of the Valley owned the animal
shelter modular.
Administrative Services Director Pressey confirmed that was correct.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner questioned if the fees had taken into account the
future inflation and cost of building.
Administrative Services Directar Pressey replied that everything was prepared
in present day calculation for the correct comparison.
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Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner stated that he objected to all the fees that were
established. He also stated that the fees would be passed on to the public. He
stated that although he would not like to see the cost of everything continue to
rise, he would have to be in favor of something like this.
Councilman Hickman questioned the need for the Marina facility. He
suggested letting the private sector service it.
Administrative Services Director Pressey replied that was a capital project
calculated at $5.2 million for the Marina facility which would qualify it to
refurbished and enhanced.
Councilman Hickman questioned if we had financing for the Marina already.
Administrative Services Director Pressey replied that the City had a$3 million
Boating/Waterway Grant.
Councilman Hickman suggested partnering with the new high school in regard
to the aquatic center.
Administrative Services Director Pressey commented that we do have existing
agreements with the school facilities. He stated that in the summer months we
utilize their facilities and they take over during the rest of the year. He stated
that the City paid a rental fee.
Lake and Aquatic Resources Directar Kilroy stated that one of the best ways to
prevent drowning in the Lake would be for people to learn how to swim; and
that any City with a lake should have an aggressive beginner's aquatic facility.
He stated that he saw this as a need for the City.
Councilman Hickman agreed and stated that the high school swimming pool
would be a good place for that.
Councilman Buckley asked for clarification of the Community Center grant and
if the money would be used to build the approximate 17,000 square feet of new
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facilities to keep up with the population growth. He also asked for clarification
on the Marina money, and if that would be used to expand and improve the boat
launch.
Administrative Services Director Pressey gave clarification on these items.
Councilman Buckley suggested putting an enclosed swimming area in the lake
that could attract people. He suggested going with a lake-based pool to save
money; and to use the savings to gain partial ownership with the school district
for when they build another pool.
Councilman Buckley addressed an earlier comment made by Mr. Harrison. He
stated that they were currently looking at adding 2/3 of 1% to a new house. He
stated the net profit for developers in Lake Elsinore was 25%-30%. He stated
the City of Fontana charged a one time fee which was placed in a City trust
fund, when the trust fund was "x" amount of dollars the City would then be
allowed to draw out interest and use it for general fund operating expenses. He
also stated that when looking at fees, you need to compare them to your market
and other cities in the area. He stated that this fee would put the City between
Corona and Temecula. He further commented that this would allow the City to
be competitive with other cities on the fee side. He stated that since the other
cities were so much closer to being built out, Lake Elsinore had the competitive
advantage when it came to development.
City Treasurer Weber stated that 800 homes would generate $2.6 million from
the fees per year, which was 10% of the budget. He commented on the chart
located on page 10 of 42, and asked for clarification in regard to the Parks and
Recreation facilities getting $1,600 per year from the fees to go into the Capital
Improvement Program.
Administrative Services Director Pressey replied that the revenue stream for
parks was included in the CIP each year.
City Treasurer Weber inquired about the $1.2 million set aside for the Marina,
and whether it was transferred into the reserve or the general fund.
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Administrative Services Director Pressey replied that it was a place holder that
Council had not adopted.
City Treasurer Weber stated that the new people moving into the City already
had pools; therefore he did not see a need far the Aquatic facility. He did
mention that a lake-based pool would be a good idea. He mentioned that most
of the new facilities had their own community facilities, and did not see the
need for more facilities when most residents were paying an association due for
such amenity. He stated that there was an Animal Shelter to be opening in
Perris, and questioned whether residents of Lake Elsinore could utilize that
shelter also.
Councilman Buckley stated that the Perris shelter could be used for Lake
Elsinore residents.
City Treasurer Weber questioned the monetary contributions from other cities
in regard to the Animal Shelter. He questioned why Lake Elsinore had to pay
30% of the costs.
Councilman Buckley stated that the fees were based on the number of animals
that were turned in through the City.
Councilwoman Kelley stated that they should be very conservative with
development fees because they did get passed on to the homeowner. She stated
that she was in support of the City Hall, Public Works facility and Community
Center facilities. She stated that she would be in support of the Marina facility if
included or would include the development of the lake edge acquisition of
property rather than to see improvement to the boat launch facility. She said
she was not in support of the Aquatic facility. She stated that she was in
support of the Animal Shelter.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner stated he understood this as being a matter that
attempted to evaluate the City's current facilities and put some figure of per
capita investments in those facilities, and that was increased by the number of
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people that were expected to increase in population, so at the end of that time
the City would have the same per capita investment as the City does now.
Administrative Services Director Pressey replied that was correct.
Mayor Magee stated that if we subtract the dollars for the Community Center
down to $545 and subtract out the Aquatic center, which he stated he was not
able to support, then we would be right in between Temecula and Murrieta with
the fees that they pay.
Councilman Buckley commented on taking the Aquatic and Marine elements as
they exist now and combine it into a Lake and Lake edge. He stated calling it
Lake and Lake Edge which would include helping pay for the Marina, buying
land along the lake edge and doing the parks.
Councilman Hickman stated that he was not in support of the Marina facility.
He stated that he would like to see the money covered for what we had to cover
for the campgrounds and to see the rest of it used strictly for the water's edge.
City Treasurer Weber questioned how much money was in the CIP.
Administrative Services Director Pressey replied that there were a variety of
funds in the CIP. He stated that the CIP that was approved for the current year
was in the $7 million range; however he did not have a specific dollar amount.
City Treasurer Weber questioned how much money would be able to be
transferred out of CIP and put back into the General Fund.
Administrative Services Director Pressey replied that there were capital projects
that he was aware of that would be replaced. He stated that the only capital
projects funded by the General fund was the General Plan update and the IT
information system upgrade.
Mayor Magee questioned if staff had adequate direction to proceed on the item.
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City Manager Brady replied that he believed they had enough direction. He
commented on the fees for affordable units, and stated that there was a way that
the fees could be reduced and built into the system.
Councilman Hickman questioned if the City would be creating a bond issue for
this item.
Administrative Services Director Pressey replied that they would not be
creating a bond for this issue.
ADJOURNMENT
THE CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSIO S ADJOURNED AT 5:43 P.M.
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JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Magee called the Joint Study Session to order at 4:02 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: HICKMAN, KELLEY,
SCHIFFNER, MAGEE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY
Also present were: City Manager Brady, City Attorney Van Blarcom,
Administrative Services Director Pressey, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director
Kilroy, Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Community Services
Director Sapp, Recreation/Tourism Manager Fazzio, Parks & Open Space
Manager Fazzio, Building & Safety Manager Chipman, City Engineer
Moehling, Planning Manager Preisendanz, Public Works Manager Payne,
City Treasurer Weber and Office Specialist I Soto.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
Mayor Magee gave an overview of the presentations; and confirmed that the
awardees would be present at the 7:00 p.m. meeting.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS
Bill Titto, 32296 Machado, questioned if there was a table of contents stating the
City policies that had recently been implemented.
City Attorney Van Blarcom replied that a list of policies would be available some
time in August.
Mr. Titto also gave reference to Item No. 4, Poe Street drainage and street
improvements. He expressed his understanding of the construction improvements
to be done to Poe Street; but stressed the need for improvements to Machado
Street.
Mayor Magee stated that the new budget had money set aside far the design and
reconstruction of Machado Street, which included drainage improvements.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes.
Councilman Hickman gave reference to a minor correction needed on Item 1 c.
2. Warrant List - June 15, 2005.
Councilman Hickman requested clarification of various checks issued on the
warrant list. Staff clarified the items.
3. Investment report.
No comments.
4. Poe Street drainage and street improvements.
Mayor Magee questioned if the City would be notifying the residents of the
improvement in writing; and if so, would it include the 400 block of Poe Street
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City Manager Brady indicated that the residents could be notified if that was
Council's desire. He stated that he would look into finding the addresses of that
area and if it included the 400 block.
Mayor Magee commented that project did not have any funding and questioned
the balance of that account.
City Manager Brady responded that he would look into the account balance.
Administrative Service Director Pressey stated that there was a total $2.579
million for the storm drain improvement.
5. Disposal of surplus electronics as scrap.
No comments.
6. Resolution of Intention to establish Community Facilities District No. 2005-12
(Alberhill Ranch) and Resolution of Intention to incur Bonded Indebtedness.
Councilman Hickman questioned if Castle & Cooke would be utilizing the $78
million to begin with.
Administrative Services Director Pressey responded that Castle & Cooke would
do it in phases.
7. Resolution of Intention of establish Community Facilities District No. 2005-4
(Lakeview Villas) and Resolution of Intention to incur Bonded Indebtedness.
No comments.
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Resolution of Intention to annex property into Community Facilities District
No. 2003-1 (Law Enforcement, Fire and Paramedic Services) and to authorize
the levy of a Special Tax within Annexation Area No. 14 (Lakeview Villas).
No comments.
9. Investment Plan.
City Treasurer Weber thanked Council for getting that done. He also
questioned what the total impact would be with regard to past interest income
versus the new interest income.
Administrative Services Director Pressey stated that it would be an estimated
$143,000 increase.
Councilwoman Kelley commented in regard to the fiscal impact and how it
stated the current rate was 3% and the projected rate would go up to 3%, and
asked for clarification.
Administrative Services Director Pressey stated that the current rate was 3°/a,
and that rates would rise but he wasn't sure what it would go up to.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned that as a pool of money that was invested,
would the interest go back to each account.
Administrative Services Director Pressey confirmed that was correct.
10. Increase of Traffic Infrastructure Fee (TIF) for development projects within the
City of Lake Elsinore.
No comments.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
21. Zone Change No. 2005-OS and Annexation No. 72.
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Mayor Magee questioned the change of the M-3 zoning designation to the
General Plan, and if that designation would remain.
Planning Manager Preisendanz replied that the General Plan designation was
described specifically as a mining operation.
22. A Resolution to approve placing delinquent refuse bill on FY 2004-2005 Tax
Roll.
Councilman Hickman questioned what it would take to put CR&R on resident's
property tax bill.
Councilwoman Kelley stated that a couple of years ago that same matter was
addressed; and residents stated that they did not want it on their tax bills.
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Second Reading - Ordinance No. 1151- Approving Amendment No. 3 to the
Canyon Creek Specific Plan No. 85-1.
No comments.
32. Industrial Design Review No. I 2004-04.
Leonard Leichnitz, LiJMOS Communities, stated that he had always retained
his storm water onsite in a detention basin for the projects he had done. He
spoke of a property adjacent to his project that did not have a fairly standard
condition, he stated he spoke to the Planning Commission and asked that the
condition be imposed. He stated that it was not imposed. He indicated that he
went to staff to speak of the conditions.
He explained that as he followed up to whether there had been change on the
conditions, prior to the meeting, and he was advised that there had not been any
changes. He stated that he was worried about the amount of storm water he
would be receiving from surrounding projects, particularly the one he had been
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speaking of. He indicated that the property adjacent to his project had plenty of
room in the back of their project to retain their storm water. He indicated that
he would like to see a retention basin that was sized to retain their storm water.
Mayor Magee questioned why that project was being treated differently than the
Norman Industries Project that had a retention basin that controlled all of their
own water.
City Manager Brady replied that he would need to get further clarification on
that item.
Schiffner asked Staff to investigate the matter further.
33. Washington, D.C. Lobbying Services Request for Proposals.
Mayor Magee commented on page 2 of the RFP document, under Scope of
Work, it stated "representative would confer with City Manger or designee".
Mayor Magee indicated that it needed to be "City Council and City Manager".
He also indicated that Item No. 5 stated "representative will review and
comment on proposals the City prepares for submission to Federal Agencies";
he stated that it should be "City staff needs to review the proposals prepared by
the Lobbyists".
City Treasurer Weber commented if there was a certain number of items that
they would be going after to get money lined up, and how much money could
the City expect to get from that company.
Mayor Magee stated that the City of Temecula had received an estimated $3
million in Federal earmarks by aggressively pursuing such items.
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CONSENT CALENDAR
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1. Minutes.
No comments.
2. Warrant List - June 15, 2005.
Councilman Hickman requested clarification of various checks issued on the
warrant list. Staff clarified the items.
ADJOiIRNMENT
THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOP NT AGENCY STUDY
SESSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 4:48 P. .
ROBERT E. MAGE MAYOR
CITY OF LAKE EL NORE
CKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
Res ectfully submitted,
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HELLE SOT( O OFFICE SPECIALIST I
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JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, JULY 26, 2005
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Magee called the Joint Study Session to order at 4:02 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, HICKMAN,
KELLEY, SCHIFFNER,
MAGEE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Brady, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Pressey, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director
Kilroy, Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Community Services
Director Sapp, Recreation/Tourism Manager Fazzio, Parks & Open Space
Manager Fazzio, Building & Safety Manager Chipman, City Engineer
Moehling, Planning Manager Preisendanz, Public Works Manager Payne,
City Treasurer Weber and Office Specialist I Soto.
Mayor Magee gave an overview of the presentations; and confirmed that the
awardees would be present at the 7:00 p.m. meeting.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS
No comments.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes.
No comments.
2. Warrant List - July 15, 2005.
Councilman Hickman requested clarification of various checks issued on the
warrant list. Staff clarified the items.
3. Extension of Term of Franchise for cable television.
Councilman Buckley questioned if Comcast was getting bought by Time
Warner.
City Manager Brady clarified that was correct.
Mayor Magee commented that upon meeting with Comcast a message was
relayed to the previous City Manager that sound issues had to do with the
present speaker system, not Comcast. He suggested following the example of
the City of Corona in regard to writing an agreement that stated Comcast assist
in perfecting the audio in Council chambers.
4. Human Resources Reorganization.
Councilman Hickman questioned if Human Resources was solely paying for the
Payroll Specialist position.
Administrative Services Director Pressey clarified that the position would be
divided between Finance and Human Resources.
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5. Resolution to dissolve Lake Elsinore Community Facilities District No. 2004-1
(City Center Townhomes).
Councilwoman Kelley asked for clarification regarding the number of
condominium units and if the number had changed.
Administrative Services Director Pressey confirmed that the number of
condominium units were unchanged.
6. Resolution of Intention to establish Community Facilities District No. 2005-6
(City Center Townhomes) and Resolution of Intention to incur Bonded
Indebtness.
No comments.
7. Resolution confirming F/Y 2005-06 Special Taxes for: CFD 88-3 (West Lake
Elsinore Public Improvements 3 Phases), CFD 95-1 (Lake Elsinore City Center
Public Improvements), CFD 98-1 (Summerhill Public Improvements), CFD
2003-1 (Law Enfarcement, Fire and Paramedic Services), CFD 2003-2 (Canyon
Hills), CFD 2004-3 (Rosetta Canyon) and CFD 2005-1 (Serenity).
Councilman Hickman questioned if it would be possible to refinance in the
future.
Rod Gunn, Gunn & Associates, replied that there was a 10-year window.
City Treasurer Weber questioned if the sewer/storm drain project would be a
part of those special taxes; or if there needed to be another one created for that.
Administrative Services Director Pressey clarified that the sewer/storm drain
project would be a part of the new CFD's when they are formed and bonds are
issued.
8. Resolution authorizing the issuance of bonds and approving bond documents
for CFD No. 2004-3 (Rosetta Canyon).
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Administrative Services Director Pressey stated that Don Hunt, City's Bond
Council, pointed out an item pertaining to Item No. 8.
Mr. Hunt stated that State law required any action on a bond issue not be on the
Consent Calendar, since it cannot be approved as part of the Consent Calendar.
City Attorney Leibold suggested pulling the item from the Consent Calendar
and placing it as the first or last item under Business Items.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
21. Citywide Lighting and Landscaping Maintenance District and the Landscape
and Lighting Maintenance District No. 1 for the Fiscal Year 2005-06.
Councilman Buckley questioned if Item No. 21 was where money had to be
listed for light repair on Lakeshore Drive.
Administrative Services Director Pressey replied that the lightening along
Lakeshore Drive was listed as maintenance since it was already in existence,
therefore the item did not need to be listed separately in the report.
22. Mitigated Negative Declaration No. 2005-03/Mitigation Monitoring Program,
General Plan Amendment No. 2005-02, Zone Change No. 2005-03 - APN 373-
071-018.
City Attorney Leibold requested that Item No. 22 be continued.
23. Mitigated Negative Declaration No. 2005-04/Mitigation Monitoring Program,
General Plan Amendment No. 2004-10, Tentative Parcel Map No. 32674 for
condominium purposes) and Residential Design Review No. 2004-11 - APN
3 79-315-044.
City Attorney Leibold requested that Item No. 23 be continued.
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24. Public Hearing for consideration of objections and to the confirmation and
placement of charges on property tax bills.
Councilman Hickman complimented Public Works on their efforts regarding
their hard work within the department.
25. Residential Design Review Project No. 2004-14.
Councilman Hickman questioned if the fences in the front of the homes would
be made of wood or cinderblock.
City Manager Brady replied that they used to require wood, but now it was
block.
Mayor Magee questioned if the Public Safety CFD was included.
City Manager Brady replied that if it was not already in there, he would suggest
that it be put in.
26. Tentative Parcel Map No. 33635 (for condominium putposes) and Residential
Design Review No. 2004-23 for Brookside Terrace.
Councilwoman Kelley commented that she would like to commend staff for
adding in the fact that the Homeowner's Association had to be established prior
to occupancy of the first dwelling unit. She stated that she was pleased with the
design.
City Attorney Leibold stated that there was a development agreement that
governed the Specific Plan Area. She stated the development agreement spoke
specifically to an affordable housing requirement. She stated that they would
follow up with the development agreement to make sure that it would be
complied with in respect to the affordable housing requirement.
Mayor Magee questioned the parking requirement, and stated that according to
our code - they get 2 covered spots and 33 visitor spots for every unit. He
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stated that the map provided in the staff report provides an additional 3 spots
over the requirement. He questioned if this would adequately accommodate
everyone.
Planning Manager Preisendanz replied that he had anticipated a lot of the
parking to be located around the Recreation Center and they had scattered some
parking in the area. He stated that there was an allowance for the reduction of
parking per the Municipal Code.
Mayor Magee questioned where the parking requirement came from.
Planning Manager Preisendanz stated he was unsure how it was incorporated
into the Municipal Code.
27. Commercial Design Review No. 2005-04 for EZ Lube at Lake Elsinore Market
Place.
No comments.
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Second Reading - Ordinance No. 1152 - Approving Zone Change No. 2005-05.
Councilman Hickman questioned if this item took all of the 1,300 acres zoned
as M3.
Mayor Magee replied that was correct.
32. Branding Subcommittee Recommendation: Consideration of Branding Project
alternatives and consulting services. ~
George Bloomfield, Lake Elsinore Marketing Group/The Bloomfield Group,
Inc., gave an overview and led a more in-depth power-point presentation of the
item.
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Councilman Hickman suggested going with Alternative 1 since it provided
more research.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned if the cost to implement the new branding
had anticipated the cost of re-branding vehicles, signs, letterheads, stationary,
cards, eta
Mr. Bloomfield stated that would be a part of their assessments and evaluation
phase. He stated that specifically they did not have that information.
Councilman Schiffner questioned the cost of the various entrance signs around
the City.
Community Services Director Sapp responded that the smaller units were an
estimated $4,500 each, and the bigger units were an estimated $10,000.
City Treasurer Weber stated that the housing development was the largest
money maker the City had. He asked what could be done to bring in businesses
with this program.
Mayor Magee stated that the most powerful display in Mr. Bloomfield's
presentation was the portrayal of all the various logos the City was currently
using. He stated that he did not see the need or the payback for focus groups
and telephone surveys, but appreciated the alternatives. He questioned if one of
the alternatives was approved, what the role would be for the Council
subcommittee.
Mr. Bloomfield stated that was at the direction of the City. He stated that he
would be pleased to work with the subcommittee or the City Council as a
whole.
Mayor Magee asked if any of the companies proposed to assist with Phase 2
had made any agreements in writing.
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Councilman Buckley stated that the propositions with the companies to assist
with Phase 2 were done verbally.
Mayor Magee questioned the level of support from the Chamber of Commerce
in regard to the proposals.
Mr. Bloomfield stated that he had been in touch with them and had made the
offer available for them to present their opinions.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned if the City Seal would be changed as part of
the project.
Mr. Bloomfield stated that he believed that would be the case.
Councilman Schiffner commented that he would like to see the City Seal
remain the official emblem, although it might not be used in advertising the
City.
33. Animal Shelter Options.
Councilman Buckley commented that the staff report was very detailed. He
stated that he believed it would be more cost effective to go through the JPA.
Councilman Hickman questioned if the JPA was still anticipating to spend $9
million. He suggested looking at the City of Norco's plans for an Animal
Shelter, which he believed they built a new facility for $3 million. He
questioned if the architectural design had been looked at to cut costs.
Community Services Director Sapp stated that those were issues that were
currently being reviewed. He stated that the plans were 60% complete. He
commented that the facility was being designed for both the current needs of the
whole Southwest region, plus future growth based on all the development that
was taking place. He stated that it was a rather large facility, but was being
built to accommodate future growth. He stated that he estimated a 10,000
square foot facility for the City of Lake Elsinore at $450 a square foot.
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Councilman Schiffner stated that he was not opposed to a nice place for the
animals. He stated that he would like to be sure that all of the Council agreed to
the facility.
Mayor Magee stated that the staff report indicated that having a City owned
facility would be a more expensive option than the JPA. He commended
Community Services Director Sapp on the detail of the staff report.
Mayor Magee gave reference to the staff report that noted the cost of a City
owned facility was based on the property being free. He stated that it was
important to note that not only was the City option more expensive, but
currently there would be no way to fmance it.
Councilwoman Kelley stated that the cost of the shelter including interest was
$23 million. She stated that was a huge investment. She noted that it would be
more expensive for the City to build their own shelter, but on the other hand
their only option would be to go with the other 3 cities. She questioned if there
had been any interest amongst other cities in paring down the design of the
building.
Community Services Director Sapp replied that there had been some interest in
looking at the plans once completed and doing some engineering to make
modifications that would add to cost savings.
City Treasurer Weber commented on the plans for the shelter not being
complete. He questioned what would happen if the shelter went over the
estimated costs, and if the City would be obligated to proceed with the shelter in
that instance.
Mayor Magee deferred to Councilman Buckley and inquired if he would have
all those answers to present in September.
Councilman Buckley stated he would have the answers. He further noted that
the plans were essentially done. He stated that Animal Friends had donated
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their floor plan, which saved the City money. He also stated that Animal
Friends had planned on donating $900,000 worth of items to furnish the facility.
City Treasurer Weber stated that he read about a facility opening up in Perris.
He suggested the use of their facility.
Councilman Buckley replied that Western Riverside County needed 4 new
shelters. He noted that the shelter in Perris was for that part of the County. He
stated the amount of money, the 28% of animals that the shelter received, would
come down once the shelter moved out of the City.
Councilman Schiffner stated that they had an obligation to the animals that
come from the City, and no matter the cost he was in favor of doing what was
necessary. He further stated that before financing the facility, the final bid price
should be established including reasonable extras before the City bound
themselves to the obligation of a large bond.
Councilman Hickman suggested an earlier idea that Councilman Buckley had;
which was to add a Developer Impact Fee to cover the capital costs.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned if the animal shelter the County was building
in French Valley was still going forward.
Kristine Anderson, Animal Friends of the Valley, replied that she wasn't sure if
they had gotten a permanent site.
Councilwoman Kelley suggested that if a majority of the Cities were
uncomfortable with the price tag, something must be done to bring the cost
down.
Ms. Anderson stated that their main concern was with the price. She stated that
Animal Friends had decided to fund the furnishings of the new facility to
subtract from the total price. She stated that if the cities would like to get the
plans completed, they needed to contribute their share to get the plans
completed.
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34. Selection and Appointment of Public Safety Advisory Commissioners and
Planning Commissioner.
Councilman Buckley questioned if Fred Francia could be apart of the General
Plan Advisory Committee and Planning Commission at the same time, and if he
would be resigning from the General Plan Advisory Committee.
Mayor Magee stated that he spoke to Councilwoman Kelley regarding that
concern. He stated that Mr. O'Neal was currently on both as well.
Councilman Buckley replied that Council specifically appointed the Planning
Commission member; he stated that to conform with policy he would expect
that he either take one or the other.
Councilwoman Kelley stated that the Electoral Reform Committee had a policy
in place that put limitations to serving on commissions. She stated that the
policy was broke when Mr. O'Neal was placed on both. She stated that in a
conversation with the Mayor, they felt it was important to have a Planning
Commissioner on the General Plan Committee. She further stated that by doing
this, it broke the policy.
Councilman Buckley replied that the Council all agreed in that instance it was
needed. However, taking someone from the General Plan Advisory Committee
or the Redevelopment Agency and appointing them to another would contradict
the policy.
Mayor Magee stated that if Council would like to continue Mr. Francia's
involvement on the GPAC that could be done, or if Council would like to
discontinue his involvement with the GPAC that could be done as well.
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CONSENT CALENDAR
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1. Minutes.
No comments.
2. Warrant List - July 15, 2005.
Councilman Hickman requested clarification of various checks issued on the
warrant list. Staff clarified the items.
Resolution confirming F/Y 2005-06 Special Taxes - CFD 90-2 (Tuscany
Hills Public Improvements).
No comments.
3. Response to Diamond Stadium Request for Proposals and Selection
Committee appointment.
City Manager Brady stated that the City had received 3 responses, 2
proposals and a letter of interest in regard to the Stadium. He referred to the
matrix prepared by Information/Communications Manager Dennis that
identified the groups and summarized what they had addressed in their
proposals.
Chairman Hickman gave a summary of the meetings he had attended with
Jeffrey Industries International and Popejoy, Appel & Graves.
Boardmember Schiffner stated that under the circumstances and due to the
importance of the outcome he thought the entire group should study the
proposals closely.
Chairman Hickman commented that Civic Partners had tied up most of the
land surrounding the Stadium. He referred to City Manager Brady for
confirmation.
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City Manager Brady replied that he believed Civic Partners had exercised
their options on some of that land; some in which he believed to be closed.
He suggested holding a Study Session for the item.
ADJOURNMENT
THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AG CY STUDY
SESSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 5:37 P.M.
ROBERT E. MAG , MAYOR
CTTY OF LAKE SINORE
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~YL HICKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
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STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Magee called the Joint Study Session to order at 4:03 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, HICKMAN,
KELLEY, SCHIFFNER,
MAGEE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Brady, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Pressey, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director
Kilroy, Community Services Director Sapp, Recreation/Tourism Manager
Fazzio, Parks & Open Space Manager Fazzio, Building & Safety Manager
Chipman, City Engineer Moehling and Office Specialist I Soto.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
Mayor Magee gave an overview of the presentations; and confirmed that the
awardees would be present at the 7:00 p.m. meeting.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS
Bill Tiitto, 32296 Machado Street, noted that the July 12, 2005 minutes that had to
do with the release of policies stated that the policies would be released in August.
He further inquired on the official date the policies would be released.
Mayor Magee commented that he did not ha~e a date of when the policies would
be released; but noted when the policies became available for public review, Mr.
Tiitto would have the opportunity to look at them.
Mr. Tiitto commented on the development that was located on Lakeshore Drive
and Riverside Drive, and inquired when the road expansion and construction
would be completed.
Mayor Magee stated that the street improvements would need to be completed
before any certificate of occupancy was issued for any of those buildings.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes.
Councilman Buckley noted that he would abstain from voting on Item lb and
1 c due to his absence at those meetings.
2. Warrant List - July 29, 2005.
Councilman Hickman requested clarification of various checks issued on the
warrant list. Staff clarified the items.
3. Draft Request for Proposals for website redesign, development & hosting.
Councilman Buckley questioned where the funding would come from for Item
3.
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City Manager Brady indicated that the item had not yet been budgeted; but once
the cost was determined, he and Administrative Services Director Pressey
would decide what part of the budget it would come out of.
Administrative Services Director Pressey indicated that Item 3 had been
included in the budget in the CIP for the IT strategic plan implementation.
Mayor Magee asked staff to clarify what "robust content management system"
was.
Administrative Services Director Pressey indicated that a robust content
management system would be to incorporate a website program that was user
friendly and would allow the individual departments to manage their content on
the website.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner questioned the aspect of the staff report that noted the
website would have automatic updating and how that worked.
Administrative Services Director Pressey clarified that automatic updating
would have a manual aspect where the departments would lead the website to
the link that the file was added to.
4. Approval of Final Map 32008, a residential subdivision by Corman Leigh,
located west of Riverside Drive and Lakeshore Drive.
Councilwoman Kelley noted that she met with the developers and confirmed
that there would be a clubhouse and pool as part of the development.
Resolution of Intention to annex property into Community Facilities District
No. 2003-1 (Law Enforcement, Fire and Paramedic Services) and to authorize
the levy of a Special Tax within Annexation Area No. 13 (Villages at Wasson
Canyon).
No comments.
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6. Engineering Division contract staff personal & professional services contracts.
Councilman Hickman asked staff to clarify the definition of "non-billable
hours".
Mayor Magee clarified that non-billable hours were any hours relative to
administrative related issues that the Engineering Department would have to
take care of that were not directly related to a particular project.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
21. Public Hearing on the proposed street vacation of Flint Street.
Councilman Buckley asked staff for clarification on the reason behind the street
vacation.
City Manager Brady indicated that he would have an answer for that item at the
7 o'clock meeting.
22. Public Hearing to authorize, by implementing resolution, the adoption of
Development Impact Fees for public buildings in Lake Elsinore with an
automatic annual ENR adjustment.
Councilwoman Kelley requested clarification on the fees.
City Manager Brady clarified that the fees would be used to pay for a portion of
new development and structures for future growth. He further stated that the
fee was not intended to be the sole financing source for new facilities.
Administrative Services Director Pressey commented that the existing fee was
to maintain the existing standard that the City had for public buildings and
facilities. He stated that as new houses came in, there would be an increased
level of demand for facilities. He mentioned that the recommendation would be
to continue the fee as long as there was development and population growth.
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23. Mitigated Negative Declaration No. 2005-03/Mitigation Monitoring Program,
General Plan Amendment No. 2005-02, and Zone Change No. 2005-03.
Councilman Hickman requested clarification on the location of the item.
Councilman Buckley clarified the location.
24. General Plan Amendment No. 2005-OS and Zone Change No. 2005-06.
Councilman Hickman questioned what the area was zoned for before the
dealership was built.
City Manager Brady commented that previous to the dealership the area was
zoned for residential.
25. Mitigated Negative Declaration No. 2005-04/Mitigation Monitoring Program,
General Plan Amendment No. 2004-10, Tentative Parcel Map (for
condominium purposes) No. 32674 and Residential Design Review No. 2004-
11.
Councilman Hickman questioned if Condition No. 56, a road median, had to be
put in by the City or Cal Trans since it was on Riverside Drive.
City Manager Brady indicated that the applicant would be required to put in a
road median adjacent to the applicant's site.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner commented that he was opposed to putting a median
in since it could interfere with emergency vehicles.
Mayor Magee deferred to City Manager Brady as to whether or not the
applicant needs to receive Cal Trans approval for that item.
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City Manager Brady indicated that the applicant would need Cal Trans
approval.
26. Public Hearing - Formation of CFD 2005-5 (Villages at Wasson Canyon); call
a Special Election; Canvas election results; authorizing levy of special taxes.
No comments.
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Conditional Use Permit No. 2005-07 and Commercial Design Review No.
2005-OS - Bank of America.
No comments.
, 32. Industrial Design Review No. 2004-08 for the project known as "Alesco Sky
Park Business Park".
Councilman Hickman request clarification on the location of the item.
Mayor Magee clarified the location of the item. He stated that he begun
discussions with Supervisor Buster's office back in April regarding the City's
desire to nail down an alignment for Bundy Canyon Road. He mentioned how
he had a meeting in May of last year with Dave Stahovich from Supervisor
Buster's office and had asked that their level of communication be increased.
He also mentioned that Mr. Stahovich had agreed to facilitate a meeting
between all parties, however; no such meeting occurred. He stated that when
the Deputy Director of Transportation was at a Chamber function and had sat
on a panel with City Manager Brady; he introduced the two individuals and
they spoke about the extension, and how out of that came the meeting that
occurred last Thursday, August 18t". He also noted that a letter had been
received from the County indicating that they would like for the City to slow
down the project until they could review it further.
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Mayar Magee stated that Mr. Leichnitz was at last Thursday's meeting with
Juan Perez, Dave Stahovich, Herman DeJong and City staf£ He had asked Mr.
Leichnitz to approach the podium to shed some light as to what occurred at that
meeting.
Leonard Leichnitz, LLTMOS Communities, stated that he would be happy to
answer any questions Council or staff might have for him.
Mayor Magee asked City Manager Brady if staff had addressed the drainage
issues that Mr. Leichnitz was concerned with on a previous project in the same
general area.
City Manager Brady replied that it was his belief that staff had added wording
into that affect on the previous project.
Mr. Leichnitz noted that he had been so preoccupied with his project that he had
not had a chance to follow up with City staff to see if that item had been
addressed.
City Manager Brady assured Mr. Leichnitz that wording could be put in if it
hadn't been done already.
Mr. Leichnitz commented that he appreciated Mayor Magee's leadership on the
issue. He stated that any alignment would work for the LIJMOS project in the
back basin. He stated that his company's interest was ensuring that the City and
the County came as close as they could in matching the two roads. He stated
that he had met on four separate occasions with County and City staff and made
the resources of a traffic consultant available to both staffs. He also noted he
had came up with five different alignments. He noted that two have been
discarded and they would continue to study the other three. He stated that the
only formal response that he had received back from the County stated to
circulate their environmental impact report, looking at all three possible
alignments. He stated that it was only in the context of the Alesco project that
the County had agreed to have another meeting to try and take a position.
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Mayor Magee stated that upon meeting with Mr. DeJong about the item, Mr.
DeJong stated that he would be more than willing to part with some or all of his
property, provided it would be purchased at fair market value, to help
accommodate the alignment.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner requested clarification on the alignment and if all the
options had planned to go through Mr. DeJong's property.
Mayor Magee stated that there were two primary alternatives in regard to the
alignment. He stated that one alternative would be to intersect with Cereal, in
the area of Cereal and the mini-storage. He stated that the other alignment
would go through the Alesco Development project. He noted that both
alignments go through Mr. DeJong's property.
Mr. Leichnitz noted that all three of his proposed alignments go through both
his property and Mr. DeJong's property.
Councilman Buckley noted that he was not in favor of the aesthetics of the
project compared to the Alesco project.
33. Sponsorship of "Guidebook" by the San Jacinto River Watershed Council.
No comments.
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes.
No comments.
2. Warrant List - July 29, 2005.
No comments.
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ADJOURNMENT
THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY STUDY
SESSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 5:28 P.M
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ROBERT E. MAGE , MAYOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
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DARYL HICKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
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CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 17, 2005
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner called the Study Session to order at 4:03 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: HICKMAN, KELLEY,
SCHIFFNER,
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, MAGEE
Also present were: City Manager Brady, City Attorney Leibold, Community
Services Director Sapp, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Sergeant
Sharp and Office Specialist I Soto.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Public Safety Advisory Commissioner
Zanelli.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
No comments
PRESENTATIONS
Lake and Aquatics Resources Director Kilroy stated that in January of 2005,
Council had approved the hiring of an aquatic safety expert to give the City an
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assessment of the lake. Mr. Kilroy then introduced Tom Griffiths to give a
presentation on his assessment of the lake.
Tom Griffiths, Aquatic Safety Consultant, gave an in-depth overview of his
presentation. His presentation addressed the concerns with regard to shoreline
safety. He commented on educating and warning the public of shoreline zones,
channeling, swimming versus wading and signage. He suggested signage for
parents and to make sure that they watch their children, hidden hazards, driving
and alcohol.
Mr. Griffiths also stated his concerns with shoreline reorganization. He suggested
the use of beach poles and numbers. He stated that the use of various color beach
poles and numbers from an emergency response perspective was highly effective.
Mr. Griffiths suggested the use of loaner life jackets, emergency stations and
"learn to swim" programs to help prevent drowning. He noted having life jackets
available at a low cost rental fee. He also mentioned that emergency stations such
as call boxes would be effective in emergency situations. He suggested the idea of
partnering with local schools to offer City swim lessons and drowning prevention
programs.
He stated that the challenges with moving forward would be time, money, people
and attitudes.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned Mr. Griffiths if he had come across a similar
situation in regard to the lake being half City owned and half County owned.
Mr. Griffiths stated that he has come in contact with similar situations and
recommended establishing a lake authority.
Councilman Hickman questioned City Attorney Leibold if the City or County
would be liable in the event of a drowning.
City Attorney Leibold stated that the liability weighed more on the fact that the
City needed to provide safety for lake use.
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Public Safety Advisory Commissioner Hewison stated that the report was very
well received by the whole commission. He suggested taking the list of
recommendations and prioritizing them, as well as establishing a time line and cost
for each recommendation. He commented on doing a similar review every three
years. He stated that he strongly felt the report should be shared with the County.
He noted that he had concerns with the loaner life jackets in regard to liability
issues.
Public Safety Advisory Commissioner Zanelli stated that zoning of the lake was an
important part stated in the report for safety issues regarding emergency situations.
Sergeant Sharp stated that channeling beach access for the lake would be a good
idea. He also stated that beach poles and numbers that could be referenced for
location purposes would be a good idea as well, especially in the event of an
emergency.
Lake and Aquatics Resources Directar Kilroy stated that the priority of
implementing shoreline safety would be to do the simple things first.
Councilwoman Kelley remarked that the report was excellent. She questioned if
the brochure for the campground regarding wading versus swimming had been
updated.
Lake and Aquatics Resources Director Kilroy stated that he had contacted the
campground regarding the brochure.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned the status of the letter sent from Tom Thomas
regarding swimming lessons at Lakeside High School.
Community Services Director Sapp responded that he was still waiting for a
response.
Councilwoman Kelley offered to follow up with Mr. Thomas.
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Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner stated that he was in favor of putting up beach poles and
numbers as soon as possible. He commented how he was in favor of the whole
project and would look to turning it over to the Public Safety Advisory
Commission.
Councilman Hickman asked for clarification regarding swimming versus wading.
Mr. Griffiths stated that swimming versus wading was hard to define. He stated
that typically wading meant that individual's feet were touching the bottom.
City Attorney Leibold questioned Mr. Griffiths on the aspect of channeling beach
access and the best way that could be done.
Mr. Griffiths indicated that even though individuals might not obey the channel,
putting up grassy hedges or a fence that lead to the entrance would still be
effective.
City Manager Brady stated that staff would work with the Public Safety Advisory
Commission to implement the program as quickly as possible.
ADJOURNMENT
THE CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 5:04 P.M.
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JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, AUGUST 23, 2005
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Magee called the Joint Study Session to order at 4:02 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, HICKMAN,
KELLEY, SCHIFFNER,
MAGEE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Brady, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Pressey, Information/Communications
Manager Dennis, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Community
Services Director Sapp, Planning Manager Preisendanz, Building & Safety
Manager Chipman, City Engineer Moehling, Public Works Manager Payne,
City Treasurer Weber and Of~ce Specialist I Soto.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
Mayor Magee gave an overview of the presentation; and confirmed that the
recipient would be present at the 7:00 p.m. meeting.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS
Bill Tiitto, 32296 Machado Street, noted that the July 12, 2005 minutes that had to
do with the release of policies stated that the policies would be released in August.
He further inquired on the official date the policies would be released.
Mayor Magee commented that he did not have a date of when the policies would
be released; but noted when the policies became available for public review, Mr.
Tiitto would have the opportunity to look at them.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes.
No comments.
2. Warrant List - August 15, 2005.
Councilman Hickman requested clarification of various checks issued on the
warrant list. Staff clarified the items.
Councilman Buckley questioned check 82914 was the last payment. Staff
clarified that it was the last payment.
3. Investment Report for June 2005.
No comments.
4. Riverside County Gang Task Farce Memorandum of Understanding between
Riverside County and the City of Lake Elsinore.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned the success the program has had locally to
date.
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City Manager Brady replied that he did not know the specific benefits of the
program and would recommend that the City's Police Chief could clarify
specific benefits.
Mayor Magee noted that the City's Police Chief was resistant to spend the
money on the program. He stated that the Police Department was to prepare a
report to the City Council on the success of project Safe Neighborhood, which
they did annually to the Board of Supervisors. He stated that he could not recall
any communication regarding the project and suggested continuing the item
until they came and spoke to the Council and fulfilled their commitment.
Councilwoman Kelley indicated she was in support of continuing the item since
she was also under the impression that the Police Department would report back
to Council over the last year.
Mayor Magee questioned if payments had been made.
Administrative Services Director Pressey clarified that no payments had been
made.
Mayor Magee questioned Councilmembers if they would like to pull the item to
be continued.
Councilwoman Kelley indicated that she would be in favor of the project;
however she would like to make sure that Council received a report back from
the Police Department.
5. Amendment to Resolution No. 2005-74 and 2004-61, Appropriation Limits F/Y
2004-2005- and F/Y 2005-2006 (Proposition 4).
Councilman Hickman questioned Administrative Services Director Pressey if
the miscalculation was due to the population of 2004.
Mr. Pressey indicated that the miscalculation was due to the growth factor and
not the citizen count.
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6. Authorization to approve Broker Dealer Agreement.
No comments.
7. Purchase of squad fire vehicle.
Councilman Hickman questioned which station would house the vehicle.
Mayor Magee clarified that the vehicle was for Station 10 at Graham Avenue.
Councilman Hickman mentioned that the squad fire vehicle was in an accident
and inquired who was at fault.
City Manager Brady indicated that the Fire Department was not found at fault.
Councilman Hickman questioned if the insurance would cover the accident.
Administrative Services Director Pressey stated that the accident would be
covered by the County. He indicated that the vehicle was purchased and
conveyed to the County; the County insured and maintained it. He mentioned
the same would be done with the new vehicle.
Councilman Hickman questioned if the City could get the County to pay half
the cost of the new vehicle.
Administrative Services Director Pressey stated that at the time of purchase
there might have been more County involvement; however it primarily only
serves the City and that was why 100% funding was proposed by the City.
Councilman Hickman questioned whether or not there was a chance that the
insurance company would pay any money towards the vehicle.
Administrative Services Director Pressey replied that he would look into that
matter.
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Planning Division Contract Staff Personal & Professional Service Contracts.
Councilman Hickman questioned the various proposed salaries of contract
planning employees.
City Manager Brady replied that the proposed salaries were comparable.
9. Request for No Parking on Canyon Estates Drive at Stoney Creek Drive.
Councilman Buckley questioned the exact location of the proposed No Parking.
Staff clarified the location of the proposed No Parking.
10. Request far No Parking on Sumner Avenue in front of Elsinore Elementary
School.
Councilman Hickman stated that he was in favor of the No Parking and
questioned if Council could look at Machado Elementary to do the same.
City Manager Brady stated that he would look into that matter.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
21. Public Hearing on the proposed street vacation of Flint Street.
Mayor Magee noted that there was a request to continue the item.
22. Public Hearing on the formation of CFD 2005-2 (Alberhill Ranch); Joint
Community Facilities District and Fee Deposit & Reimbursement Agreements;
call a Special Election; canvas election results; authorizing levy of Special
Taxes.
Hickman questioned the amount of the bond issue.
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Administrative Services Director Pressey replied that the first bond issued
would be for $28 million.
City Treasurer Weber questioned if CFD 2005-2 was for all of Alberhill.
Administrative Services Director Pressey replied that the staff report included a
complete list of the facilities for the entire development.
City Treasurer Weber suggested auditing the funds.
23. Public Hearing - Resolution determining the validity of prior proceedings
relating to annexation of property into City of Lake Elsinore Community
Facilities District No. 2003-1 (Law Enforcement, Fire and Paramedic Services);
call a Special Election; canvas election results; authorizing levy of Special
Taxes for CFD 2003-1 Annexation Area No. 14 (Lakeview Villas).
No comments.
24. Formation of CFD 2005-4 (Lakeview Villas); Joint Community Facilities
Agreement; call a Special Election; canvas election results; authorizing levy of
Special Taxes.
No comments.
25. Tentative Parcel Map No. 33525 "For Condominium Purposes" and Industrial
Design Review No. 2005-02 - J&S Development Business Park.
Mayor Magee questioned the Condition of Approval that dealt with the
landscape plan. He suggested changing Item 32b in the staff report, to say 30
feet apart instead of 40 feet apart. He further commented that if there was no
objections to his recommendation, he would like to see it become a standard.
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26. Cottage Lane Specific Plan.
Councilman Hickman questioned if Council would be able to move forward on
the item even though it was in the courts.
City Attorney Leibold mentioned that was possible.
Councilman Buckley questioned specifics to the plan. Staff clarified those
items.
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Second Reading - Ordinance No. 1153 - Amending Chapter 16.74 to title 16 of
the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code establishing fees on development projects.
No comments.
32. Second Reading - Ordinance No. 1156 - Authorizing the levy of a services
special tax and special tax.
Councilman Hickman questioned if the $8.5 million that was being requested
for the tax was part of the CFD on the homes in Wasson Canyon or if it was a
bond issue for the City.
Administrative Services Director Pressey indicated that the funds would go
toward services and maintenance; and not parks or open space.
33. Amendment to Chapter 5.78, regarding Significant Palm Trees.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner questioned the edition of the King and Queens Palms,
since they were a tree that grows very rapidly. He commented that he did not
believe that they were hard to come by, and questioned adding them to the
protected list.
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34. Easement for Stadium parking lot property (Parking Lot C).
No comments.
35. Affordable Housing Agreement imposing restrictions on real property (Alliance
Realty Partners LLC).
Alliance Realty Partners representative gave an in-depth overview of the item.
Mayor Magee commented that the applicants indicated that they had been in
design review far approximately a month, he questioned if the City anticipated
the project coming forward befare the end of the year.
City Manager Brady responded that the project should be moving forward by
the end of the year.
City Treasurer Weber indicated that he believed the project was a step in the
right direction. He stated that he was impressed with what he has seen in regard
to the salaries they had estimated and how closely they related to reality.
Councilman Hickman commented that as the RDA Chairman he would like to
thank Alliance Realty Partners and stated that he looked forward to their
working relationship.
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes.
No comments.
2. Warrant List - August 15, 2005.
No comments.
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3. Investment Report for June 2005.
No comments.
BUSINESS ITEMS
4. Easement for Stadium parking lot properiy (Parking Lot C).
No comments.
5. Affordable Housing Agreement imposing restrictions on real property
(Alliance Realty Partners LLC).
No comments.
ADJOURNMENT
THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY STUDY
SESSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 5:11 P.M.
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ATTEST:
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JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 27, 2005
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Magee called the Joint Study Session to order at 4:04 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, KELLEY
SCHIFFNER, MAGEE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: ffiCKMAN
Also present were: City Manager Brady, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Pressey, Information/Communications
Manager Dennis, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Community
Services Director Sapp, Planning Manager Preisendanz, Senior Civil
Engineer Basubas, Building & Safety Manager Chipman, Public Works
Manager Payne, Recreation/Tourism Manager Fazzio, City Treasurer Weber
and Office Specialist I Soto.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
Mayor Magee gave an overview of the presentations; and confirmed that the
awardees would be present at the 7:00 p.m. meeting.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS
No comments.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Warrant List - September 15, 2005.
No comments.
2. Approval of Final Map Nos. 30493 and 30493-4, 5, 6, 7& 8.
No comments.
3. Approval of Final Map No. 29996.
No comments.
4. Request for no parking at mail box.
Mayor Magee inquired if residents had been noticed.
City Manager Brady responded that he was not aware if the residents had been
noticed.
Mayor Magee inquired if there were any public comments received.
City Manager Brady responded that there were no public comments received
that he was aware of.
5. Resolution of Intention to establish Community Facilities District No. 2004-2
(Viscaya) and Resolution of Intention to incur Bonded Indebtedness.
City Treasurer Weber stated that he would not want to move forward with this
item until after the policy study session. He noted a letter drafted by
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Administrative Services Director Pressey regarding the RFPs for the
Summerhill audit that had not yet been sent out.
6. Purchase of a Pickup Truck.
Councilman Buckley inquired if the item had been budgeted.
City Manager Brady confirmed.
Mayor Magee inquired about the additional expense the City would incur to
outfit the vehicle with decals.
Public Works Manager Payne stated that the vehicle cost just under $17,000
and it would be about $3,200 to outfit the vehicle.
7. Request for Alcohol Approval/Waiver of Fees.
Mayor Magee inquired if there was a need for any additional City staff
members to work the event.
City Manager Brady stated that there was not a need for additional City staff
members to work the event.
8. Tourism update.
Mayor Magee noted that he had hoped this item would have been in the form of
a presentation instead of a receive and file item. He indicated that he would
like to know the budget and how much was spent for promoting the City over
the course of the last 4 years.
City Manager Brady stated that he would get that information.
Mayor Magee noted the section of the report that had mentioned the City did
not have enough hotels. He inquired, from a tourism stand point, how much
had been done to attract hotels.
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City Manager Brady confirmed that Best Western was moving forward and
there had been interest from Mote16 to be located within the City also.
Mayor Magee noted that he would like to see a letter writing campaign
targeting rowing teams with the outlet channel now open, sporting good stores,
boat and personal water craft manufacturers, motocross manufacturers and
related, accessory equipment and general aviation enthusiasts. He noted that if
that was not already a part of the tourism function it should be a part of the
economic development function.
Councilman Buckley noted that there was no mention of unpaid media
outreach. He inquired about the Film Commission and the Tourism Council.
Recreation/Tourism Manager Fazzio stated the City currently did wark with the
Film Commission and IEEP.
Councilman Buckley inquired on the effectiveness of the Film Commission.
Recreation/Tourism Manager Fazzio stated that they had been very effective.
City Treasurer Weber inquired on the money received from last year's tourism
program.
City Manager Brady indicated that he did not know the amount received. He
further indicated that he would look in to whether or not that item was broken
down specifically in terms of revenue in the budget.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner inquired on the construction status of Best Westem.
City Manager Brady indicated that they had just pulled their grading permits.
Councilman Buckley suggested tracking the success of tourism efforts.
Mayor Magee requested that the City Manager provide the Council with a
better scope of work in regard to the tourism function.
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9. Authorization to prepare CEQA compliance documents for Residential Design
Review No. R-2005-12 and LEAP 2005-11 for Broadstone's Rivers Edge
Apartment Complex (Classic Pacific).
Mayor Magee inquired on the specific location of this item.
City Manager Brady confirmed the location.
10. Authorization to prepare CEQA compliance documents and one (1) "Public
Outreach" meeting for Annexation No. 74, the annexation of forty-five (45)
parcels of "Island" area located within the County of Riverside.
Mayor Magee inquired on the specific location of this item.
City Manager Brady confirmed the location.
Planning Manager Preisendanz clarified the reason behind the annexation and
the item's specific location.
Mayar Pro Tem Schiffner indicated that in the future he would like to see a
vicinity map included in the staff reports regarding these kinds of items.
City Treasurer Weber inquired if homeowner's were living on the property.
Planning Manager Preisendanz confirmed that the property was vacant. He alsc
mentioned that Mooney, Jones & Stokes' planning division was used to process
applications.
Mayor Magee stated that he would like to utilize another firm to process
applications until June 2006.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
None.
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BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Second Reading - Ordinance No. 1161 - Approving Specific Plan No. 2004-01.
No comments.
32. Second Reading - Ordinance No. 1162 - Authorizing the levy of a special tax
within Annexation Area No. 13.
No comments.
33. Second Reading - Ordinance No. 1163 - Authorizing the levy of a services
special tax and a special tax.
No comments.
34. Second Reading - Ordinance No. 1164 - Authorizing the levy of a special tax.
No comments.
35. Renaming of City Parks.
Councilman Buckley suggested the renaming of the City Park to Mayhall Park
be done during the Rotary Art & Wine Festival.
Community Services Directar Sapp indicated that he would be able to have a
park sign available by that event.
City Manager Brady confirmed the renaming could be done at the Rotary event.
36. Streets Maintenance Contracts.
No comments.
37. Legal Services Agreement - City Attorney.
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City Treasurer Weber inquired about page 4 of 13, paragraph C in the staff
report and whether or not Council had access to all records mentioned. He
further inquired who the City auditor was.
City Attorney Leibold stated that the City auditor would be whoever the City
Council designated as an auditor.
City Treasurer Weber inquired as to whether or not Council deemed it
necessary to add the City Treasurer as part of page 4 of 13, paragraph C.
Upon discussion, Council agreed to delete the word "designated" before
Councilmember(s) on page 4 of 13, paragraph C.
City Treasurer Weber inquired if Council had considered hiring other law firms
to help with contracts.
City Attorney Leibold noted that not every law firm was identical and their
scope of work may be different.
Mayor Magee noted page 3, under "AgreemenY', under item 2, where it states
"Time of Performance"; he would like to change it to "Term of Agreement"
with the concurrence of Council. He also stated that he would like to change
the last word of the last sentence in that paragraph from "terminated" to "until
September 1, 2007". He stated that this would establish having terms for
contract staff.
City Attorney Leibold stated that a term was perfectly acceptable with her firm.
Councilman Buckley inquired on page 9 of 13, paragraph 3, where it stated
"Third Party Reimbursements".
City Attorney Leibold stated that when the legal services contract was
amended, it was proposed that a higher hourly rate be charged for certain
matters in which the developers agreed to cover the City's legal fees. She
indicated that method had not warked very well. She clarified that where their
firm had an explicit agreement, where a private pariy had agreed to pay the
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City's legal fees, the hourly rate would be the firm's designed private rate, less
10%.
Councilman Buckley suggested that "all such services must be directly
approved by the City Council" be added to page 8 of 13, paragraph 3.
City Attorney indicated the addition could be added.
Councilman Buckley inquired if an annual review could be added.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that a specific provision for an annual review
in January was not included, but could be added.
Mayor Magee inquired on page 8, paragraph 2, titled "General Legal Services".
He noted two typos. In the first sentence he noted "consist" should be changed
to "consists", and "meeting" changed to "meetings".
City Treasurer Weber inquired on page 9 of 13, paragraph 4, titled "Issuer's
Counsel for Municipal Bonds". He noted how the City had been getting
charged for Mr. Mann going to the finance team meetings. He did not believe
that the City should be charged for that meeting.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that the charges were for the opinion.
City Treasurer Weber inquired if an opinion was needed.
City Attorney Leibold confirmed that an issuer's opinion was needed.
City Treasurer Weber inquired on the work schedule of the City Attorney's
office, and if Council was made aware of their legal dealings before they came
about rather than afterward.
Mayor Magee stated that the City Attomey's office is a professional
organization that has a lot of items on its' plate; and the Council relied on them
to prioritize in the order of importance as they deem necessary.
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REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Warrant List - September 15, 2005.
No comments.
BUSINESS ITEMS
2. Legal Services Contract - Agency General Counsel.
No comments.
ADJOURNMENT
THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY STUDY
SESSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 5:10 P.M.
ROBE T E. MAGEE, AYOR
CITY OF LAKE ~LSINORE
CE
Respectfully submitted,
MICHELLE SOTO, OFFICE SPECIALIST I
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CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 29, 2005
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Magee called the Study Session to order at 438 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, KELLEY
SCHIFFNER, MAGEE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: HICKMAN
Also present were: City Manager Brady, City Attorney Leibold,
Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Lake & Aquatic Resources
Director Kilroy, Community Services Director Sapp, Planning Manager
Preisendanz, Senior Civil Engineer Basubas, Public Works Manager Payne,
Recreation/'I'ourism Manager Fazzio, Police Chief Fetherolf, City Treasurer
Weber and Office Specialist I Soto.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Edith Stafford, resident, inquired why the draft recommendation of the City
Council Policy Manual was not made available.
Mayor Magee indicated that he would have the City Attorney address that issue.
Bill Tiitto, 32296 Machado Street, inquired if there was an additional cost for the
City Attorney to review City Council Policy Manual.
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Mayor Magee indicated that it was his belief that the review of the City Council
Policy Manual rendered by the City Attorney would fall under special services. He
stated that he would have the City Attorney address that matter.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
City Attorney Leibold stated that City Council Policies, on behalf of her
recommendation, should address the conduct and business of the City Council and
Elected Officials and certain other policy matters that related to City business.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that Councilmember Buckley and Councilmember
Hickman were part of the subcommittee designated by City Council to review the
City Council Policy Manual.
City Attorney Leibold stated that Policy 100-1 was the foundation of what the City
Council Policy Manual was intended to address. She noted that the policy clarified
that personnel rules and regulations govern employee conduct, individual
employment contracts and contracted employees.
City Attorney Leibold stated that Policy 100-2 was a proposed Code of Ethics.
She noted that policies brought forward in relation to ethics would be deleted and
repealed from provisions of the Municipal Code. She further noted that the City
Council was governed by the Political Reform Act, the Government Code 1090
relating to contracts and the Redevelopment Law relating to the acquisition or
ownership of property in a project area. She noted that all of the Conflicts of
Interests, disclosures and ethical requirements were addressed in State Law. She
indicated that the City's Code of Ethics was inconsistent. She noted that the draft
Code of Ethics attempted to address items that were not covered by State Law or to
reiterate what was governed by State Law.
Councilmember Buckley noted that on behalf of the subcommittee, the
recommendation was that the whole Code of Ethics section of the manual be
redone.
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City Attorney Leibold indicated that Policy 100-3 was updated from Racial
Discrimination to Anti-Discrimination.
City Attorney Leibold stated that the subcommittee recommended specific changes
to Policy 100-4 relating to the preparation of City Council and Agency Agendas.
She noted that subcommittee had recommended the addition of a new 100-4A that
related specifically to the provision of City Council Agendas to the public.
City Attorney Leibold stated that Policy 100-5 and 100-6 were related to the
reconsideration of Council items. She recommended the deletion of those
provisions and suggested that they be a part of City Council's procedural
guidelines.
City Attorney Leibold stated that the subcommittee did make recommended
changes to Policy No. 100-7 related to citizen complaints and suggestions.
Councilmember Buckley indicated that a time limit of 5 days for citizen
complaints and suggestions was recommended to Policy 100-7.
City Attorney Leibold stated that her recommendation to Policy 100-9 that dealt
with Contract Change Orders would be contingent to the discretion of the City
Manager for Change Orders up to $15 thousand. She noted that anything beyond
$15 thousand would require City Council's approval.
City Attorney Leibold stated that the recommendation on Policy No. 100-10 from
the subcommittee and the City Clerk had established a goal of digital recording so
City Council minutes could be provided on CD.
Councilmember Buckley stated that the subcommittee added the recommendation
that the City Clerk's Office shall, in all cases, move as expeditiously as possible in
the gathering of records and shall interpret the right of the public's immediate
access to records as broadly as possible in all requests.
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Councilmember Buckley stated that Policy 100-11 addressed Conditions of
Approval on Development Projects where in all cases signalization shall occur in
the first phase of each project.
City Attorney Leibold stated that she believed Policy 100-12 was never formally
adopted or formally incorporated into the City Council Policy Manual. She noted
that the policy related to the inspection of invoices from legal services rendered.
City Attorney Leibold stated that she found several errors in Policy 200-1 that did
not reflect the proper protocol.
City Attorney Leibold stated that she needed direction from City Council on Policy
200-2 and 200-3. She noted that she had believed those sections were removed
because they were governed by State law. She further noted that the annual filing
of the Statement of Economic Interests Forms were required with the Political
Reform Act and the Conflicts of Interest Code.
City Attorney Leibold stated that she needed direction from the City Council on
Policy No. 200-4.
City Attorney Leibold stated that Policy No. 200-SA and 2005-SB ran in sequence.
She noted that the policies were proposed by the Electaral Reform Committee and
were reviewed by the City Council at a special meeting where the Electoral
Reform Committee made their presentation. She stated that the City Council made
specific modifications to the policy that evening.
City Attorney Leibold stated that the City Council updated Policy No. 200-7 in
April of 2004. She noted that she did not make any specific recommendations to
change the policy as it was adopted in 2004.
City Attorney Leibold stated that in the past, Council Members were participatory
in a television show. She inquired if there was still a need for Policy No. 200-8.
She noted the changes recommended by the subcommittee.
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City Attorney Leibold stated that the subcommittee recommended deletion of
Policy No. 200-9.
Councilmember Buckley indicated that the policy stated that all meetings with
outside agencies or individuals, requested or scheduled by the Councilmember,
should be scheduled through the Clerk's Office.
City Attorney Leibold stated that the policy had not been happening and was
unworkable.
City Attamey Leibold requested that direction be given on Policy No. 200-10. She
noted that the recommendation for City Council Study Sessions were to be set for
the first and third Thursdays of the month.
City Attorney Leibold noted that Policy No. 200-11 was presented to City Council
by the Electoral Refarm Committee. She noted that City Council did make some
modifications. She noted that the subject matter had to do with the filling of City
Council vacancies. She further noted the policy stated that a vacancy would be
filled immediately by appointment and had established a procedure to fill that
vacancy. She indicated that in the event that a vacancy occurred after July ls` in
the last year of a Council term, the vacancy would be held open and would not be
filled. She noted that the vacancy would be filled at the next regularly scheduled
general Municipal Election.
Councilmember Buckley noted the policy stated that no person serving as a
Councilmember during the occurrence of a vacancy on the Council, shall be
eligible for appointment to fill such vacancy.
City Attorney Leibold stated that she recommended the deletion of Policy No. 300-
1 in relation to City Council compensation. She noted that it was governed by the
government code and that there was a Lake Elsinore Municipal Code that related to
City Council compensation. She noted that the subcommittee's recommendation
was for Council to forfeit their compensation in the event a balanced budget was
not adopted. She indicated that if the City Council wanted to consider such a
provision it could be incorporated into the ordinance or retain a policy that
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encouraged, but not required, forfeiture of compensation in the event suggested by
the subcommittee.
City Attorney Leibold stated Policy No. 300-2, relating to petty cash
disbursements, was a very short policy.
Councilmember Buckley stated that the subcommittee eliminated the City Council
being able to use petty cash and that all disbursements must be approved by a
Department Head ar the City Manager.
City Attorney Leibold stated that the recommendation far Policy No. 300-2 was
deletion.
City Attorney Leibold stated that Policy No. 300-3 did not relate to City personnel.
She suggested that the City Council read through and pay particular attention to its
content.
Councilmember Buckley stated that the departure and arrival times were not
needed as stated in the policy since there was a partial day per diem.
City Attorney Leibold stated that Policy No. 300-4 that was formally Travel and
Training had been consolidated into 300-3 and recommended that Seminars and
Conferences be the subject matter of 300-4.
City Attorney Leibold stated that the subcommittee had recommended deletion of
Policy No. 300-6 relating to Senior Citizen Rebates and Citywide Lighting and
Landscaping,
City Attorney Leibold stated that she had recommended deletion of Policy No.
300-7.
City Attorney Leibold stated that Policy No. 300-8 was revised in June 2004.
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Administrative Services Director Pressey indicated that the last revision took place
in June 2005. He noted that there were no changes. He indicated that it had to be
adopted annually per the State Government Code.
City Attorney Leibold stated that her recommendation for Policy No. 300-10 was
to change Developer Agreement Fees to Development Agreement Fees. She noted
that the fees would be the subject matter of individual negotiations with respect to
each development agreement.
City Attorney Leibold stated that Policy No. 300-11 was adopted in July 2004.
She noted that there were no recommendations.
City Attorney Leibold stated that Policy No. 300-13 was a new one titled
Background Checks for Designated Contracts. She noted that she had talked about
the benefits of establishing a uniform due diligence or application process.
City Attorney Leibold stated that Policy No. 400-1, in regard to letterhead,
indicated that City Letterhead was strictly for the use of City correspondence.
Councilmember Buckley stated that the policy also noted that if a Councilmember
used letterhead to correspond an issue that has not been before the entire body for
consideration, the letter must clearly state that the its contents were the opinion of
the individual Councilmember and may not necessarily reflect the position of the
City Council as a whole.
City Attorney Leibold stated that Policy No. 400-3 related to keys to City Hall.
She noted that her recommendation would be to add that the key could not be
replicated; it must be for the City Council's sole use and must only be used for
City business.
City Attorney Leibold stated that the subcommittee recommended that individual
Councilmembers could make inquiry of individual City Personnel in Policy No.
400-4. She noted that a request for work or a product would be funneled through
the City Manager.
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City Attorney Leibold stated that with Policy No 2005-5, City vehicles could not
be used for personal use but only for City business. She noted that there was
mileage reimbursement for the use of their personal car, as long as it was for City
business.
City Attorney Leibold stated that the subcommittee recommended some changes
on Policy No. 400-6. She noted that there was specific reference to the City
Treasurer in the subcommittees recommended changes.
Councilmember Buckley noted that a formal press release must be approved by the
Mayor.
City Attorney Leibold noted that Policy No. 400-7 was governed by State Law.
City Attorney Leibold noted that Policy No. 400-8 was something she would like
to discuss with staff to determine whether there might be a desire for additional
policy statements in that regard.
City Attorney Leibold stated that Policy No. 400-9 was governed by the City's
Purchasing Ordinance and State Law.
City Attorney Leibold stated that Policy No. 400-10 was something the City
Council had not seen before. She noted that the existing policy related to memorial
tree plantings. She noted the renaming of several public facilities. She noted that
the revised 400-10 policy addressed the renaming of public facilities as well as
memorial tree plantings.
City Attorney Leibold stated that Policy No. 400-11 was a long standing policy
that dated back to 1996. She noted that the subcommittee recommended some
modification to the policy.
City Attorney Leibold stated that Policy No. 400-12 was a relatively new policy.
She noted that it mostly addressed conditions of use for staff. She noted that it
would be incorporated into the City's Personnel Rules and Regulations.
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Councilmember Buckley indicated that there had to be a regular scheduled meeting
to change the policies.
City Attorney Leibold noted that she would look into that reference.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that she would like direction from the City
Council on how to go forward.
Mayor Magee thanked City Attorney Leibold and her office for all the work.
Additionally, Mayor Magee thanked the subcommittee for their work as well. He
indicated that several of the Councilmembers had not had the opportunity to go
through the material. He noted that a significant amount of time would need to be
dedicated to reading the material in order to be adequately prepared to discuss the
policies. He suggested scheduling a study session for October 11`h so
Councilmember Hickman could attend.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner noted that there was very little in the policy manual that
he would question.
City Attorney Leibold stated that in regard to the Internet Policy,
Information/Communications Manager Dennis indicated that City Council's e-mail
was provided through the server and considered a public record.
Councilmember Kelley suggested compiling a list of items to discuss for the
October 11`~' meeting.
Mayor Magee noted that he would consent to that idea if all the Councilmembers
were adequately prepared at that time.
Councilmember Buckley stated scheduling a meeting with surrounding public
agencies to set action timelines for developments and projects throughout the City.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner stated that he would like everyone to keep in mind that
more than one study session may be needed to revisit Council Policies.
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ADJOURNMENT
THE CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 5:58 P.M.
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ROBERT E. MAGEE AYOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
Respectfully submitted,
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MICHELLE SOTO, OFFICE SPECIALIST I
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JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 11, 2005
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Magee called the Joint Study Session to order at 4:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: HICKMAN, KELLEY
SCHIFFNER, MAGEE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY
(Councilman Buckley arrived at 4:04 p.m.)
Also present were: City Manager Brady, City Attorney Leibold,
Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Lake & Aquatic Resources
Director Kilroy, Community Services Director Sapp, Planning Manager
Preisendanz, City Engineer Seumalo, Senior Civil Engineer Basubas, Public
Works Manager Payne, Recreation/Tourism Manager Fazzio, Police Chief
Fetherolf, City Treasurer Weber and Office Specialist I Soto.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
Mayor Magee gave an overview of the presentations; and confirmed that the
awardees would be present at the 7:00 p.m. meeting.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS
Tim Fleming, resident, commented on a claim against the City filed by
Terrence Thielen and noted that he was available to assist staff if necessary.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes.
No comments.
2. Warrant List - September 30, 2005.
No comments.
3. Supplemental Law Enforcement Service Fund (SLESF) Expenditure Plan.
Councilwoman Kelley inquired if it was possible to get a breakdown of the
marine equipment to be used.
City Manager Brady commented that he would look into the item for a detailed
breakdown of marine equipment.
4. Notice of Completion for traffic signal at Grand Avenue and Broadway
Avenue.
No comments.
5. Construction contract bid opening for Interim I-15/Railroad Canyon Road
interchange.
Councilwoman Kelley noted her disappointment that there were not any bids
received.
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City Manager Brady noted that there were a number of issues concerning the
bid of the item. He further noted that the higher cost of fuel, asphalt, concrete,
petroleum products and steel played a significant role. He stated that he had
hoped that when the item went out to bid again it would be successful.
Disposal of surplus electronics as scrap.
No comments.
7. Claims against the City.
No comments.
Consultant selection for preparation of plans, project report and environment
documents for I-15/State Route 74 ultimate interchange.
No comments.
9. 2005/2006 C.D.B.G. Supplemental Agreement.
Mayor Magee inquired if there would be a EDA representative present at the
7 o'clock meeting.
City Manager Brady stated that he was not sure if there would be a
representative present.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
21. Extension of Time No. 2005-02 for Tentative Parcel Map No. 31051.
Councilman Hickman inquired if that was the land Target was to be built on.
Mayor Magee confirmed.
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Councilman Hickman inquired on the extension of time.
Mayor Magee noted that staff's recommendation was an additional2 years.
City Manager Brady noted that the extension of time was not for the entire site.
22. Tentative Tract Map No. 32786.
Councilwoman Kelley inquired how much improvement would be done to
Nichols Road.
City Manager Brady stated that there would be a 2-lane road extended out to the
I-15.
Mayor Magee noted that there were 360 homes proposed with the project and
no park. He inquired if that was consistent with staff's policy.
Planning Manager Preisendanz stated that two "tot lots" and other amenities
were usually required. He noted that Community Services Director Sapp had
noted there was a regional park in the area that could be utilized. Mr.
Preisendanz stated that since there was a regional park in the area, Community
Service Director Sapp felt comfortable with what was provided.
23. Mitigated Negative Declaration No. 2005-07/Mitigation Monitoring Program,
Tentative Tract Map No. 33370 (for condominium purposes) and Residential
Design Review No. 2005-05.
Leonard Leichnitz, Lumos Communities, stated that he would be happy to
answer any questions that Council might have.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner noted that the project would be good for the area.
Councilman Buckley inquired if the HOA would be maintaining the outside of
the buildings.
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Mr. Leichnitz clarified that the HOA would maintain the front lawns, the front
yard, the courtyard and everything that would be visible in terms of landscape.
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Employment agreement for City Clerk.
No comments.
32. Railroad Canyon Road rock slide repair.
Councilwoman Kelley inquired on the timeline of when the project would start
and how long construction was expected to take.
City Manager Brady stated that the intention would be to move as quickly as
possible. He noted that once the work started, it should be a matter of a few
months for the work to be completed.
Councilman Hickman inquired if the main concern with this project was water
drainage.
City Engineer Seumalo indicated that water behind the slope puts pressure on
the slope itself, which causes the slope to stress and fracture.
33. Request to provide funding for the Vick Knight Community Library at Lakeside
High School.
Councilwoman Kelley indicated that the City gave money to the downtown
library out the mitigation fee; and with the public opening at Lakeside High
School, they would like the same consideration.
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REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CONSENT CALENDAR
l. Minutes
No comments.
BUSINESS ITEMS
2. Employment Agreement for Agency Secretary.
No comments.
FERGUSON GROUP PRESENTATION TO CITY COUNCIL
David Kennett, Ferguson Group, spoke of the goals they wish to accomplish for the
project and noted issues in the RFP. He suggested an informal staff ineeting might
be needed to kick start the process.
Councilwoman Kelley stated that one of her major concerns and where she would
like additional lobbying efforts would be bicycle trails and the improvement along
the lake edge; which would include dollars for widening public streets that run along
the lake and parks along the shoreline. She also stated that she would like to see
lobbying efforts for money toward a Boys and Girls Clubs as well as youth and non-
profit organizations.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner stated that one of his main interests had to do with water
quality improvement and lake improvements.
Councilman Hickman stated that his main concerns had to do with the
redevelopment of the downtown area and transportation.
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Mayor Magee noted that his number one main concern was transportation followed
by public safety, redevelopment specific to the downtown area and water quality.
He indicated that his other concerns had to do with public parks and open space, in
addition to Boys and Girls Clubs.
ADJOURNMENT
THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY STUDY
SESSION WAS ADJOiIRNED AT 5:00 P.M.
ROBERT E. MAGEE, OR
CITY OF LAKE ELSI RE
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REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
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JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 25, 2005
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Magee called the Joint Study Session to order at 4:01 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: HICKMAN, KELLEY
SCHIFFNER, MAGEE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY
(Councilmember Buckley arrived at 4:05 p.m.)
Also present were: City Manager Brady, CiTy Attorney Mann,
Administrative Services Director Pressey, Information/Communications
Manager Dennis, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Community
Services Director Sapp, Planning Manager Preisendanz, City Engineer
Seumalo, Public Works Manager Payne, Recreation/Tourism Manager
Fazzio, City Treasurer Weber and Of~ce Specialist I Soto.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
Mayor Magee gave an overview of the presentations; and confirmed that the
awardees would be present at the 7:00 p.m. meeting.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS
Tim Fleming, resident, commented on a claim against the City filed by
Terrence Thielen and noted that he was available to assist staff if necessary.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes.
No comments.
2. Warrant List - October 17, 2005.
Councilmember Hickman requested clarification of various checks issued on
the warrant list. Staff clarified the items.
City Treasurer Weber requested clarification on check no. 83574. Staff
clarified the item.
3. Renaming City Park.
No comments.
4. Request for waiver of fees.
Councilmember Hickman inquired on the location of the church.
Recreation/Tourism Manager Fazzio indicated that the church held their
services at Lakeside High School.
Mayor Magee inquired if the event had already taken place. Mrs. Fazzio
confirmed.
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Autharization to implement outreach program for the Annexation related to
Tentative Tract Map No. 32537.
City Treasurer Weber inquired if the City would lose the VLF tax in regard to
the annexation related to Tentative Tract Map No. 32537.
Administrative Services Director Pressey confirmed that the City would not get
the full tax benefit of any homes that fell within the district.
6. Lake Elsinore DPSS Office/Transitional Housing Project.
Kathy Welborn, California Department of Public Social Services, gave an in-
depth presentation on the Lake Elsinare DPSS Office and Transitional Housing
Proj ect.
David Terrell, California Department of Public Social Services Facilities
Manager, gave an overview of the DPSS facility appearance as well as what it
would include.
Tim Fleming, Citizen Representative of the Housing Project Committee, stated
that he was available to answer any questions Council might have in order to
help bring the project to fruition. Mr. Fleming gave an overview of the Vista
facility.
Mayor Magee stated that upon meeting with Mrs. Welborn, Supervisor Buster
and his Staff; he promised Supervisor Buster that he would bring the item
forward to the Council as an information item so that the Council would be
aware of what the County was planning. He further stated that Supervisor
Buster agreed that the County and City would work together on the project. He
reminded Council that the item would be brought back as a formal project in the
form of a Design Review.
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Councilmember Hickman inquired if the transitional house would require a
percentage of the individual's income.
Mrs. Welborn indicated that would be something they would research.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner inquired on the requested clarification on how the
project construction and operation would be funded.
Mrs. Welborn stated that the project had been approved for the HUD
Supportive Housing Program Grant. She noted the grant covered supportive
services and operations.
Mr. Terrell stated that the cost for the transitional housing was an estimated $4
million.
Mayor Pro Tem Shiffner inquired if it was anticipated that the City of Lake
Elsinore would participate in funding.
Wendy Kolk, Supervisor Buster's Office, noted that it was yet to be determined
whether or not the City would contribute.
Councilmember Kelley stated that she supported the project. She noted that she
had a lot of questions regarding funding and what the expectations were from
the County as to what the City's participation would be. She further inquired
on the cost of the total project.
Mr. Terrell stated that the transitional house was estimated at $4 million and an
estimated $5 million for the office building.
Councilmember Buckley noted the resolution from the Lake Elsinore Unified
School District in support of the project, he inquired if they would be funding
any part of the project.
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Mayor Magee stated that due to the proximity to the school district property, he
urged Supervisor Buster and his staff to seek the approval of the school district.
Councilmember Buckley inquired if there was an interest in the City's RDA
property nea~t door to the project.
Mayor Magee stated that was the subject of negotiation and that their goal is
incorporate that piece of property into their project.
Councilmember Buckley inquired if RDA property would affect the City's or
RDA's ability to use that piece of property if it was not incorporated. He
further inquired if the project would decrease the value of the property.
Mayor Magee stated that the RDA property was part of an on-going negotiation
in closed session, and the party looking to build the project for the County was
the one negotiating to purchase it.
Councilmember Hickman inquired if whether or not the 2-1/2 acres of the
City's RDA property was needed to build the project.
Mr. Tenell stated that the City's property would help. He noted that they were
also trying to obtain property behind the City's property that was owned by the
County.
7. Approval of Final Map No. 31901, an industrial subdivision by D& D Cattle
Company II, LLC, located at the northwest corner of Minthorn Street and
Chaney Street.
No comments.
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Approval of Final Map No. 28214-3, a residential subdivision by Castle &
Cooke Alberhill Ranch, LLC, located approximately one-half (1/2) mile
northeast of the intersection of Mountain Street and Lake Street.
No comments.
9. Completion of clean-up of former underground storage tanks at 161 South Main
Street (corner of Main Street and Sulphur).
Councilmember Buckley inquired why the City ended up paying for the item as
opposed to the owner of the property.
City Manager Brady indicated that he look into that item.
10. Consideration of canceling the December 27, 2005 City Council Meeting.
No comments.
11. Construction contract award for Poe Street between Flint and Pottery Streets.
Councilmember Hickman noted that he drove to the area; he stated that only a
certain area needed to be resurfaced as opposed to the whole block. He
inquired if the item covered the whole block.
City Engineer Seumalo clarified that the item did not cover the whole block; he
clarified the specific area to be resurfaced.
12. Consultant selection for traffic signal and intersection improvements at Ortega
Highway (SR-74) and Grand Avenue.
No comment.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
21. Tentative Tract Map No. 30494.
No comments.
31. Reimbursement Agreement with Rancho California Water District with the
cities of Lake Elsinore, Murrieta and Temecula for the acquisition of aerial
photography and digital elevation data.
Information/Communications Manager Dennis indicated that the item was a
data acquisition project. The aerial imagery that the City was acquiring with
the project was necessary to render the results that the City would get with the
survey quality digital data. He stated that aerial photography was commonly
attainable through third parties. He noted that the item before Council was a
proposal to enter in to a joint-party agreement with the Rancho California
Water District to acquire digital data for elevation purposes.
Mayor Magee inquired where the data received from the project will reside and
who would maintain the database. He further inquired how the City would gain
access to it.
Information/Communications Manager Dennis indicated that the City would be
given rights and ownership of the database. He noted that the City would be
given access to the whole region that the project covered. He further noted that
the database would be maintained onsite.
City Treasurer Weber inquired if the County had been contacted in regard to
help aid the project. He further inquired if neighboring cities would be asked to
join in.
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Information/Communications Manager Dennis stated that the decision was
made by Rancho California Water District to be the lead on the project. He
indicated that the City of Lake Elsinore was asked if they wanted to participate,
in which case Rancho California Water District would extend the survey area.
He indicated that Canyon Lake and some other areas were not going to be
surveyed or flown.
Information/Communications Manager Dennis stated that if the City were to do
the project by itself, the service area could cost over $300,000. He indicated
that he anticipated the cost of the project proposed with Rancho California
Water District to be no more than $85,000.
City Treasurer Weber inquired if the County was asked to help fund the project.
He further inquired if there was any other money available to help pay for the
proj ect.
GIS Analyst Barrozo indicated that the Cities of Perris and Corona were asked
to join in. She stated that the County of Riverside was not interested since they
did not need that specific data. She did state that all of the surrounding
agencies were asked if they wanted to join in.
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes
No comments.
2. Warrant List - October 17, 2005.
Boardmember Buckley requested clarification on check no. 5630. Staff
clarified item.
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BUSINESS ITEMS
3. Redevelopment and Housing Implementation Plan 2005-2009.
No comments.
ADJOURNMENT
THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY STUDY
SESSION WAS ADJOiIRNED AT 4:50 P.M.
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ROBERT E. MAGEE, MAYOR
G~TY OF LAKE ELSINORE
D~i R-I~L HICKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
Res e tfully submitted,
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JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 8, 2005
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Magee called the Joint Study Session to order at 4:02 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, KELLEY
SCHIFFNER, MAGEE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: HICKMAN
(Councilmember Hickman arrived at 4:05 p.m.)
Also present were:
City Attorney Leibold, Administrative Services Director Pressey,
Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Lake & Aquatic Resources
Director Kilroy, Community Services Director Sapp, Community
Development Director Preisendanz, Associate Planner Coury, City Engineer
Seumalo, Public Works Manager Payne, City Treasurer Weber and City
Clerk Ray.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
Mayor Magee ga~e an overview of the presentations; and confirmed that the
awardees would be present at the 7:00 p.m. meeting.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS
No comments.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Warrant List - October 31, 2005.
Councilmember Buckley requested clarification of various checks issued on the
warrant list. Staff clarified the items.
2. Authorization to prepare CEQA compliance documents for Specific Plan 2005-
O1, Zone Change 2005-O1, Conditional Use Permit 2005-21, Residential Design
Review 2005-12 and LEAP 2005-11 for Village at Lakeshore (Classic Pacific).
No comments.
Authorization to prepare CEQA compliance documents for Tentative Tract Map
No. 25475, Tentative Tract Map No. 33725, Ramsgate Specific Plan
Amendment No. 4 and General Plan Amendment No. 2005-04.
No comments.
4. Amended Community Facilities District report for CFD No. 2005-2 (Alberhill
Ranch).
Councilmember Buckley inquired if park land acquisition was a new item to be
paid for out of the CFD.
Administrative Services Director Pressey stated that the park land acquisition
was the land that the developer was going to convey to the City, but the City
had agreed to purchase it with the CFD funds.
Councilmember Buckley inquired when the City agreed to pay for the land.
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Community Services Director Sapp indicated that the City would acquire the
land tl~rough park credits or through the CFD.
Approval of Final Map No. 31531, a residential subdivision by D.R. Horton
Homes, located approximately three-fourths of a mile southeast of the
intersection of Grape Street and Railroad Canyon Road.
Councilmember Hickman inquired on the exact location of the project.
City Engineer Seumalo indicated that the project was located adjacent to Grape
Street between the church and Wal-Mart.
Mayor Magee stated that he would be abstaining from the item.
6. Approval of Final Map No. 31532, a residential subdivision by D.R. Horton
Homes, located approximately one mile southeast of the intersection of Grape
Street and Railroad Canyon Road.
No comments.
7. Agreement between Caltrans and the City of Lake Elsinore for the cost of
construction and maintenance of the signal at Rosetta Canyon, Trellis Lane and
Ardenwood Way and State Route 74.
Mayor Magee commented that Caltrans would be issuing a permit for 3 traffic
signals.
Agreement between Caltrans and the City of Lake Elsinore for the cost of
construction and maintenance of the signal at Riverside Drive and the High
School entrance.
Councilmember Kelley inquired if that was the City's first time doing an
agreement of that nature with the school district.
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City Engineer Seumalo indicated that the agreement was not too different than
the agreement for Centex Homes. He stated that he was unsure if an agreement
of that nature had been done with the school district before.
9. Poe Street Pavements rehabilitation Change Order No. 1- Lindsay Street
Repairs.
Mayor Magee commended Public Works Manager Payne for taking advantage
of the school being in recess and bringing the project forward so that it impacts
the least amount of people as possible.
10. Selection of Audit Firm to perform agreed upon procedures related to certain
bond transactions.
Councilmember Kelley inquired if the costs would be higher than anticipated.
Mayor Magee confirmed that the item would be brought back if it was more
than $10,500.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
21. Lake Elsinore Ford; Commercial Design Review No. 2005-02, Conditional Use
Permit No. 2005-06, Variance No. 2005-03 and Mitigated Negative Declaration
No. 2005-06.
Mayor Magee noted that he had a request to continue the item until the
December 13th City Council Meeting.
22. Tentative Tract Map No. 31593.
Community Development Director Preisendanz indicated that the City proposed
changes to the Condition of Approval due to the CFD not moving forward as
expected. He noted changes to Condition No. 38 and Condition No. 40.
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Mayor Magee commented on Condition No. 9, he stated that the last sentence
should state "no cost to the City". He requested clarification on Condition No.
93.
Community Development Director Preisendanz indicated that Condition No. 93
related to the park site. He noted that the condition was prepared by City
Attorney Mann to accommodate the easement and ingress/egress far the park
road.
Mayor Magee commented on Condition No. 106, and inquired if it was
consistent with the City's Franchise Agreement with CR&R Disposal.
Community Development Director Preisendanz indicated that the condition was
not consistent and the applicant needed to use CR&R.
Mayor Magee stated that the last sentence in Condition No. 106 needed to be
dropped.
Mayor Magee noted that comments from 3 different State agencies had been
received. He further inquired if comments from any County agencies had been
received.
Community Development Director Preisendanz confirmed that the City had not
received any comments from County agencies.
Mayor Magee indicated that Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner found another
modification. Mayor Magee suggested that Condition No. 106 be eliminated all
together since Condition No. 107 related to the Franchise Agreement.
Mayor Magee inquired on the comment from the Department of Toxics, and
inquired if there was anything relative to toxins on the project site.
Community Development Director Preisendanz confirmed that he was not
aware of anything.
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23. Extension of time for Tentative Parcel Map No. 30985.
Councilmember Buckley commented that the last map that was extended was
Target and inquired if they were still building.
Community Development Director Preisendanz confirmed that they were still
building.
Community Development Director Preisendanz stated that the applicant had
requested that Conditions of Approval Nos. 61, 62 and 64 be deleted.
Councilmember Buckley recommended deleting conditions 61 and 64, and
leaving in 62 with the addition of "if appropriate".
Mayor Magee recommended adding "if deemed appropriate by City
Engineers".
24. Formation of CFD 2004-2 (Viscaya); call a special election; canvas election
results; authorizing levy of special taxes.
Administrative Services Director Pressey indicated that it was staff's
recommendation that the City Council take no action on the item. He noted that
the developer had come forward requesting a modification to the CFD which
would require starting over with another Resolution of Intention.
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Resolution authorizing the issuance of bonds and approving bond documents
for Community Facilities District No. 2005-2 (Alberhill Ranch).
Councilmember Buckley inquired if the item was connected to Consent
Calendar Item No. 4.
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Administrative Services Directar Pressey indicated that the Consent Calendar
Item amended the CFD Report and Item No. 31 authorized the issuance of
bonds related to that CFD.
Councilmember Buckley inquired what would happen if Consent Calendar Item
No. 4 was not approved. He inquired if Item No. 31 could be modified at the
dais.
Administrative Services Director Pressey indicated that would be a question for
the Bond Counsel.
Danny Kim, Fulbright and Jaworski, indicated that if Item No. 4 on the Consent
Calendar to amend the CFD Report was not approved, action on Item No. 31
could be taken.
City Treasurer Weber inquired about the administration cost for the Bond
Counsel.
Administrative Services Director Pressey indicated that the cost of issuance was
$360 thousand.
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Warrant List - October 31, 2005.
No comments.
BUSINESS ITEMS
2. Exclusive Negotiation Agreement.
Legal Counsel Leibold noted that Mr. Jacob would be present at the 7 p.m.
meeting.
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Chairman Hickman indicated that Jacobs-CP Diamond Development could
not borrow against the Stadium.
Legal Counsel Leibold stated that they had no interest in the Stadium during
the negotiation period. She noted that the provision would be something that
would be included in the definitive agreement.
Boardmember Magee indicated that in the past it took a while to collect the
fees. He suggested that the Legal Counsel enforce that the initial deposit be
paid within 7 calendar days.
Legal Counsel Leibold indicated that the initial period was 62 days. She
noted that the initial and extended negotiation period have been tied together
to a regular Agency Board meeting. She noted that there would be an
opportunity to meet on January l Oth under Real Pro~perty Negotiations. She
noted that the Agency Board would meet March 14t if it were to go into
extended negotiations.
Boardmember Magee noted that he would like for the initial deposit to be
received before the Agency started to incur costs.
PUBLIC HEARING
3. Redevelopment and Housing Implementation Plan 2005-2009.
Chairman Hicksnan complimented Legal Counsel Leibold on the item.
Legal Counsel Leibold stated that she received comments from the RDA
Committee.
City Treasurer Weber inquired if the HDL audit for taY increment had come
back.
Administrative Services Director Pressey stated that they were still working
on the audit. He stated that he would follow up with them.
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City Treasurer Weber indicated that the audit was supposed to be done by
October 2004 and was over a year overdue.
Administrative Services Director Pressey indicated that he did not have
clear indication why that had not yet been completed.
ADJOURNMENT
THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY STUDY
SESSION WAS ADJOiIRNED AT 5:05 P.
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ROBERT`E. MAG , MAYOR
CITY OF LA E SINORE
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REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
Res tfully submitted,
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MICHELLE SOTO, OFFICE SPECIALIST I
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FREDERIC Y, CITY CLERK
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JOINT CITY COUNCIL/
PLANNING COMMISSION
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 17, 2005
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Magee called the Joint Study Session to order at 4:08 p.m.
ROLL CALL
CITY COUNCIL:
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, KELLEY,
MAGEE, SCHIFFNER
COUNCILMEMBERS: HICKMAN
(Councilmember Hickman arrived at 4:17 p.m.)
PLANNING COMMISSION:
PRESENT: COMMISSIONER: FRAN CIA, GONZALES,
LARIMER, O'NEAL,
LAPERE
ABSENT: COMMISSIONER: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Brady, City Attorney Miles, Administrative
Services Director Pressey, Information/Communications Manager Dennis,
Community Development Director Preisendanz, City Engineer Seumalo,
Senior Civil Engineer Basubas, Senior Planner Harris, Lake & Aquatic
Resources Director Kilroy, Public Works Manager Payne and Office
Specialist I Soto.
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PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Michael Slavick, San Diego, commented that his family owned some lake-edge
property. He stated that the City should look at sustainable economic
opportunities. He stated he would like to see mixed-used development along
the lake-edge area.
Dennis Slavick, 129 Vista Valle, Palm Desert, commented that he and his
family owned property within the City. He stated that he was concerned with
economic development. He stated that he supported mixed-use development
along the lake-edge area.
Tim Fleming, Resident/GPAC Member, gave an update on the progress of the
Committee. He noted several concerns of the committee that had to do with
entitlement rights, the need for the Committee to be aware of all information
impacting the City and the need for assurance from the City that the Committee
is presented with all the facts. He noted that the lines of communication are
imperative among the City Council, City Manager and the Planning Department
to the Consultants.
Hardy Strozier, Planning Associates, noted that MCA was a major tile
manufacturer located on 146 acres on Walker Canyon Road. He noted that the
City's consultant along with the GPAC requested that letters of
recommendations be submitted to the Council and Commission. He requested
that the land-use designation remain for MCA's property.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
1. General Plan Update
Mayor Magee introduced the item and deferred to City Manager Brady.
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City Manager Brady gave a brief introduction on the item and deferred to Brian
Mooney of Mooney, Jones and Stokes.
Mr. Mooney introduced himself and Project Manager Claudia Unhold.
Mr. Mooney noted that the General Plan was the constitution for future
development.
Mr. Mooney stated that his company started warking on the project in February
2005. He indicated that there had been numerous GPAC meetings.
Mr. Mooney noted that one of the key issues was the historic use of the specific
plan area as a land use designation in the existing General Plan. He stated that
had been a past problem with implementing planning programs.
Mr. Mooney indicated that one of the key issues was the emphasis on
enhancing Historic Downtown opporiunities.
Mr. Mooney gave an overview of real land use designations. He noted that they
broke the City down into planning districts.
Mr. Mooney indicated that the City had a variety of residential land uses. He
noted density alternatives of 35 dwelling units per acre and 24 dwelling units
per acre. He further noted that they had added in mixed-use designations. He
stated that mixed-use commercial in the downtown area was very important.
Councilmember Hickman noted his concern with the business district located
near the outlet center. He requested clarification if the area surrounding the
outlet was designated for light industrial.
Mr. Mooney indicated that it was light industrial and they would be going with
a land use designation that represented that land use.
Councilmember Hickman inquired if there was a percentage of retail that could
be used in light industrial versus mixed use.
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Community Development Director Preisendanz indicated that limited
manufacturing in the City's Municipal Code did not haee a specific percentage
for a retail use. He stated that the Planning Department had been using a15%
allowance to control the amount of retail in an industrial area. He noted that the
matter would be more definitive in the City's development code.
Councilmember Hicksnan inquired if mixed used included industrial.
Mr. Preisendanz confirmed.
Councilmember Hickman inquired if an increase for retail allowance had been
considered for light industrial.
Mr. Preisendanz stated that he did not have a number that provided any sort of
parameters; however, he noted that he tried to keep the retail allowance between
15-20%.
Councilmember Hickman stated that he would like further consideration to
increase the retail allowance in light industrial areas.
Mr. Mooney indicated that one of the things that they were looking for in
relationship to the lake edge on the north shore was the creation of a new
circulation route. He noted the proposed location for the new road. He
indicated that the new road would have a better interface with the lake.
Mr. Mooney indicated that the highest density the City had was 24 units per
acre. He noted that there were appropriate areas to go to 35 units per acre. He
noted that those were issues that would be studied in the General Plan.
Mr. Mooney gave an in-depth overview of Alternative No. 1, 2 and 3 in regard
to land-use designations for Historic Downtown area. He further noted the
different scenarios that were available for land-use designation.
Mr. Mooney gave an in-depth overview of Alternative No. 1 and 2 in regard to
land-use designations for Country Club Heights area. He further discussed the
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alternatives for the allowable number for dwelling units to be placed in that
location.
Mr. Mooney gave a brief overview of Alternative No. 1 and 2 in regard to land-
use designations for Riverside/Lakeview area.
Mr. Mooney gave a brief overview of Alternative No. 1 and 2 in regard to land-
use designations for RiverviewBallpark area.
Mr. Mooney gave an in-depth overview of Alternative 1, 2 and 3 in regard to
land-use designations for the Eastlake area. He noted that Alternative No. 1
reflected the Laing project and LUMOS project that had been approved. He
noted that Alternative No. 2 reflected an old plan that had been proposed
previously. He further noted Alternative No. 3 reflected a vast amount of open
space and recreation area.
Mr. Mooney noted the 3 Special Treatment Areas that had been identified in the
Planning Districts as Main Street, Country Club Heights and the Auto Mall.
Mr. Mooney gave an in-depth overview of the proposed General Plan outline.
Mr. Mooney addressed the steps in how to proceed. He stated that they were
scheduled to be done with the General Plan in June 2006. He noted that the
remaining budget was $340,000 out of a$775,000 budget. He noted that there
would need to be testing for land-use plans through modeling for the circulation
element, through market analysis and environmental impact reports. He stated
the importance that Council believed they were headed in the right direction.
Mr. Mooney noted issues that they had not anticipated. He noted that LAFCO
indicated that there should be a larger area for the Sphere of Influence.
Mr. Mooney noted that Senate Bill 18 was a new requirement by the State of
California that the City consult with tribes related to scared resources within the
City. He noted that there were 2 tribes that exclaimed they wanted to be
consulted with. He further noted that the 2 tribes were Soboba and Pechanga.
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Mr. Mooney stated that after the General Plan was adopted, the City's Zoning
Ordinance would need to be amended.
Mr. Mooney noted that he was finished with his presentation and invited any
feedback or questions that Council may have had.
Mayor Magee thanked Mr. Mooney for his presentation. Mayor Magee
deferred to Chairman Lapere and invited comments from the Planning
Commission.
Commissioner Francia stated that he has seen the progress that had taken place.
He noted that he was involved in the community outreach and activities. He
noted that mixed-use, circulation and the forming of districts was a very
important.
Commissioner O'Neal stated that the GPAC was moving along in an interesting
way.
Commissioner Gonzales stated that he like the idea of putting in a pier on the
northern side of the lake edge. He inquired if putting in another pier on the
southern side of the lake edge had been considered.
Mr. Mooney indicated that they had not considered putting a pier on the
southern side of the lake edge. He noted that the emphasis of the pier was its
connection with Historic downtown. He inquired if that would be something
that Mr. Gonzales would like for him to look at.
Commissioner Gonzales confirmed that he would like to see a pier on the
southern side of the lake edge considered. He noted that he thought the General
Plan looked very good.
Commissioner Larimer noted that she like the direction that Mr. Mooney and
his company were going with for Historic Downtown. She inquired if that was
the only area that had been targeted for higher density.
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Mr. Mooney indicated that Historic Downtown and the Ballpark District were
the two areas they were focusing on for higher density.
Commissioner Larimer inquired if the same historic standard guidelines were
being followed for Historic Downtown or if new guidelines had been
implemented.
Mr. Mooney indicated that they would ha~e some form of design guidelines
that would be new as part of the General Plan.
Commissioner Larimer inquired if it was a part of the plan to remodel existing
buildings in Historic Downtown.
Mr. Mooney indicated that some of the buildings may be remodeled and
buildings with important history would be preserved.
Commissioner Larimer inquired if there were any plans for where Grand
Avenue and the Ortega Highway meet.
Mr. Mooney indicated that a new road for that area was being considered.
Chairman Lapere stated that Mr. Mooney was going in the right direction. He
noted that he thought improving the downtown area with mixed use was a step
in the right direction. He noted that to improve the lake area as it related to
mixed use was also a step in the right direction. He stated that higher density
relative to the Ballpark was predicated on the flow of traffic and circulation. He
noted that he liked the idea of using planning districts for land use. He noted
his concerns far the Country Club Heights area. He stated that 15%-20% retail
was accurate for light industrial areas. He further noted that he felt mixed use
could be done in a tasteful manner. Mr. Lapere thanked Mr. Mooney for his
presentation.
Commissioner Larimer requested clarification on what Mr. Mooney meant by
different personalities of the community.
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Mr. Mooney indicated that he had seen different personalities in the
architecture, landscaping and related items in various parts of the City. He
noted that creating community areas was a tool to shape different interests.
Councilmember Kelley thanked Mr. Mooney far his presentation. She noted
that she did like the idea of planning districts. She indicated that she like the
proposed concepts for downtown. She noted that she did not oppose high
density as long as the design standards were heightened. She noted her interest
in traffic circulation. She requested that Council be given larger maps.
Mr. Mooney indicated that larger maps would be available for the next meeting.
Councilmember Buckley stated that downgrading of the specific plan concept
was an excellent idea. He inquired if one of the performance indexes up to 35%
or 40% could include affordability.
Mr. Mooney indicated that he had been working with staff and it could be
architecturally based. He noted additional units could be obtained if the City
was to allow 10% or 20% to be at an affordable rate for low to low-medium
mcome.
Councilmember Buckley inquired if the pier concept fit with the marina
concept. He further inquired if the pier would be a mare for entertainment or
recreational use.
Mr. Mooney indicated that they had not yet defined what kind of pier that
would put in to the plan. He stated that he would give the concept to the
economic consultant.
Councilmember Buckley inquired if the pier would be competition for the
marina.
Mr. Mooney indicated that the idea for the pier would be part of an
entertainment zone.
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Councilmember Buckley stated that he thought it was vital that the civic center
should be Main Street.
Mr. Mooney indicated that through the GPAC they have identified 3 locations
for the proposed site.
Councilmember Buckley requested clarification on variation of heights for
higher density buildings in and around downtown. He noted that he would like
to see 3 and 4-story buildings in the area.
Mr. Mooney noted that they were very flexible with the concept. He noted that
he thought higher densities were needed.
Councilmember Buckley inquired if one-way streets had been considered for
downtown.
Mr. Mooney noted that they were in the stage of focusing solely on land uses.
He noted that after that stage they would speak to the traffic engineer who
would then look at the possibility of one-way streets.
Councilmember Buckley noted his concern with the appearance of buildings in
Historical Downtown.
Mr. Mooney indicated that they would be taking direction from City Council
and the GPAC in regard to appearance.
Councilmember Buckley stated that he thought residential hillside fit well for
Country Club Heights fit well. He inquired about the concept of zoning. He
noted that the city of Ventura changed their concept of zoning from use-zoning
to building-type zoning. He inquired if building-type zoning was something
that could be utilized for special treatment areas.
Mr. Mooney indicated that it could be done. He noted that it was not a part of
their contract to do the zoning ordinance. He noted that the concept of zoning
Councilmember Buckley was speaking of was referred to as New Urbanism.
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Councilmember Buckley inquired on the subject that multiple hearings would
be needed that was mentioned by Mr. Mooney. He further inquired if the
meetings were study sessions, meetings or hearings.
Mr. Mooney indicated that multiple hearings would needed.
Councilmember Buckley inquired if the meetings would need to be special
meetings.
City Attorney Miles indicated that the meetings could be special meetings.
Councilmember Hickman inquired if there had been any thought given to traffic
circulation and parallel roads on the I-15 in case there is an emergency.
Mr. Mooney indicated that they had been looking at frontage roads. He noted
that there were frontage roads in the current General Plan but they had not been
built. He noted that the next phase of the land-use stage would to have the
traffic engineer review such items.
Councilmember Hickman stated that he would like far there to be consideration
of a river walk in Historic Downtown.
Mr. Mooney stated that a river walk had been considered. He stated that idea
was implemented in to the plan. He stated that he felt it would fit in perfectly.
Mr. Hickman stated that he would like for there to be consideration for a park in
Historic Downtown.
Mr. Mooney indicated that the river walk would be a linear park. He noted that
a public space in Historic Downtown would be considered.
Mr. Hickman indicated that the felt it was a good idea for industrial areas to
having living spaces on top of the buildings where the owners could stay. He
indicated that he would like to increase retail higher than 15%.
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2005
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner indicated that he was interested in the fact that
LAFCO had expressed a concern with the City expanding the Sphere of
Influence. Mr. Schiffner stated that was something he looked forward to. He
indicated that he liked the idea of what had been proposed for the General Plan.
Mayor Magee thanked the GPAC members for their hours of hard work and
dedication that they have spent over the course of the last 10 months. He noted
that their efforts had not gone unnoticed. He indicated that it was difficult to
read the maps that had been provided for the presentation. He requested that
that the maps be made available for the public at the front counter in addition to
contact information for Mooney, Jones and Stokes so residents can better
understand the process. He addressed the timeline that had been presented and
inquired on the status of the Traffic Analysis with Urban Crossroads.
Mr. Mooney indicated that they had completed a baseline inventory of all the
issues. He noted that Urban Crossroads had done that baseline. He noted that
all the problem areas had been identified. He noted that they had not proceeded
for them to do the modeling on the land use.
Mayor Magee inquired if the modeling to be received would include a menu
board of things dealing with land use, density, service availability, circulation,
economic viability and how all of those items interrelate based on which
alternatives are mixed and matched.
Mr. Mooney confirmed. He noted that they were currently working on the
testing process. He noted that the two key areas of testing included traffic
circulation and economic aspect.
Mayor Magee inquired if Mr. Mooney would be able to meet for another update
meeting at the end of January.
Mr. Mooney stated that it would be possible to set up a meeting together for the
end of January.
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Mr. Mooney indicated that staff would often get inundated with new
applications. He noted that it was important for his company to understand
what those applications were. He stated that if anybody was applying for
anything it should be brought to his company and the GPAC for evaluation and
to give their input.
City Manager Brady stated that through the planning process, new applications
could be conveyed to Mooney, Jones and Stokes in addition to the GPAC.
Mr. Mooney indicated that the communication regarding new applications
would be a big help.
Chairman Lapere stated that anyone wishing to develop something in the
downtown or lake area should not be held up any longer than necessary. He
suggested that staff could include what was being discussed in a report to
submit to the Commission.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner suggested that developers wishing to develop the
downtown area should contact Mooney, Jones and Stokes to ensure that their
plans fit with the General Plan.
Councilmember Buckley stated that he strongly urged that information
regarding the development of downtown, around the lake or any large project in
the City be communication to the GPAC.
ADJOURNMENT
THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL/PLANNING COMMISSION STUDY SESSION
WAS ADJOURNED AT 5:28 P.M.
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CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
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RON LAPERE, CHAIRMAN
PLANNING COMMISSION
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JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 22, 2005
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Magee called the Joint Study Session to order at 4:02 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: HICKMAN, KELLEY
SCHIFFNER, MAGEE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY
(Councilmember Buckley arrived at 4:05 p.m.)
Also present were: City Manager Brady, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Pressey, Information/Communications
Manager Dennis, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Community
Services Director Sapp, Community Development Director Preisendanz,
Senior Planner Harris, Associate Planner Resendiz, City Engineer Seumalo,
Building and Safety Manager Chipman, City Treasurer Weber and Of~ce
Specialist I Soto.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
Mayar Magee gave an overview of the presentation; and confirmed that the
awardee would be present at the 7:00 p.m. meeting.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS
No comments.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Warrant List - November 15, 2005.
Councilmember Hickman requested clarification of various checks issued on
the warrant list. Staff clarified the items.
2. Investment Report for August 2005.
No comments.
3. Award of Bid - Tennis Court Resurfacing.
Councilmember Kelley noted that the tennis court over at Creekside was
horrible and she was happy to see the tennis court resurfacing before council.
She inquired on the cost difference between the 2 bids.
Community Services Director Sapp indicated that he did not have any specifics
on why the cost differed between the two companies that bid on the project.
City Manager Brady noted that both of the companies did onsite inspections.
Councilmember Kelley inquired on the completion date for both the Machado
and Creekside locations.
Community Services Director Sapp indicated that he had hoped to have it done
in the next 8 weeks.
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4. Award of Bid - Park Restroom Cleaning.
Councilmember Hickman inquired on the cost difference for different restroom
locations.
Community Services Director Sapp stated that some restrooms were larger in
size than others and cost more to clean and stock with material.
5. Allocation of funds for the City Wide Speed Study.
Councilmember Hickman inquired why the fiscal impact dollar amount and
agreement dollar amount differed.
Mayor Magee stated that the difference in price had to do with administrative
support time.
City Engineer Seumalo confirmed.
City Manager Brady indicated that that administrative support time had been
budgeted in to the account and staff time was charged to that account.
City Manager Brady noted that Traffic Offender Fees would be utilized rather
than the Measure A funds for $22 thousand.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner requested clarification on the total cost of the project.
City Engineer Seumalo stated that the $22 thousand represented the budget for
the project which included administration fees.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
21. Tentative Parcel Map No. 34023.
Councilmember Buckley inquired what kind of homes would be placed on the
proj ect.
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Community Development Director Preisendanz confirmed that the map was a
subdivision at that point and that he was not aware of what kind of homes were
to be placed on the project site.
Councilmember Buckley inquired what kind of home was allowed on the
project site.
Community Development Director Preisendanz indicated that both stick and
manufactured homes with the right architectural enhancements were allowed on
the project site.
Councilmember Hickman inquired if there was a way to put a freeze or
moratorium on construction on Main Street until the General Plan was
completed.
City Manager Brady stated that one of the directions that the City Council gave
at the last City Council meeting was to take into consideration the General Plan
Update and what was occurring with the General Plan Update and when
projects were coming in throughout the entire City. He stated that a
moratorium was a possibility, however he wouldn't recommend it.
Councilmember Hickman inquired if there were any projects coming to
downtown.
Community Development Director Preisendanz stated that there were not any
projects coming to downtown on Main Street. He stated that any project in the
historic district or along the lake would be routed to GPAC and Mooney, Jones
and Stokes.
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Easement and Public Park Improvement Agreement with EVMWD.
Councilmember Buckley inquired if there was a specific minimum dollar
amount of what EVMWD would have to spend.
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City Attorney Leibold stated that the requirement was to submit plans for
approval by the City Council. She noted that there was not a specific minimum
dollar amount to spend, however; it could be done.
32. Lincoln Street Park.
Councilmember Kelley inquired on the timeline of the project.
Community Services Director Sapp stated that once the City Council approved
staff's recommendation it would take approximately 4 months to complete.
Mayor Magee inquired if at least 2 other groups, other than Kobata Associates,
had bid on the project and were interested in participating.
Community Services Director Sapp stated that he had not been contacted by
any other groups. He stated that he could bid out for future work.
Mayor Magee stated that he received letters from 2landscape architectural
firms that were interested in competing with Kobata Associates far future wark.
33. Infrastructure Reimbursement Agreement (Oak Grove Crossing Shopping
Center).
City Treasurer Weber inquired how much money would be generated from the
proj ect.
Administrative Services Director Pressey stated that the total estimated sales tax
would be in the $300/$400 thousand range.
City Attorney Leibold noted that the employee figures they received from
Target were 120 employees, plus an additional 30-60 employees for other retail
developments on the site.
34. Memorandum of Understanding with United Public Employees of Califomia,
LIiJNA Loca1777 for July 1, 2005 to June 30, 2007.
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Mayar Magee stated that he thought the agreement for the CIP Index stated "up
to 4.0."
Administrative Services Directar Pressey indicated that 4.4% was what was
communicated to him from Union Representatives and Mr. Filarsky.
Mayor Magee noted that he wanted to verify what direction the Council gave to
Mr. Filarsky.
City Attorney Leibold noted that she would call Mr. Filarsky to confirm.
Administrative Services Director Pressey stated that he would confirm what the
Council had agreed upon.
35. CFD Policy.
Leonard Leichnitz, LUMOS Communities, stated that he supported the
elimination of the escalator. He requested that the new policy only apply to
projects that have a tentative map deemed complete after the date of adopting
the new policy.
La Strada Partners Representative stated that they had an approved project in
the Tuscany Hills area. They stated that they were currently in the process of
submitting improvement plans and applying for a grading permit. He requested
that their project be grandfathered in to the existing policy since they had been
working with the City for quite some time.
Chris Lightburne, La Strada Partners, stated that he and his company have been
working with City staff to come up with a solution to the transportation issue.
He stated that he would like Council's consideration in the adoption of the CFD
Policy.
Councilmember Hickman asked the developers if they were to lose money with
the elimination of the escalator, if they would then pass the cost on to the
homeowners.
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Mr. Lightburne stated that there was a possibility that the elimination of the
escalator could increase the price of a home. He stated that their hope was not
to do that.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner said that a cut off time needed to be established for
the policy.
City Treasurer Weber inquired how much profit the developers made off of a
house.
La Strada Partners Representative indicated that the profit was hard to come up
with considering the factors of custom materials and fuel. He stated that he was
not present to argue the CFD; he just wanted to request that his project be
grandfathered in.
Mr. Leichnitz stated that the builder he worked for had an internal policy that
they needed a 20% return on capital. He stated that after overhead, which was
between 9-12°/a, the company typically netted between 8-11°/a on their capital.
Councilmember Kelley requested clarification on which of the 6 of the
developers listed in the staff report had paid their deposits.
Administrative Services Director confirmed the developers that had paid their
deposits.
Councilmember Hickman stated that he did not want to see the price of homes
go up where the City was no longer competitive and development slowed down.
Mayor Magee stated that he favored Mr. Leichnitz's idea where a builder that
had a completed Tentative Tract Map application in to the City would be under
the language contained in the recommendation which contained "may". He
stated that it would allow flexibility and put the requirement on the builder to
make their case for allowing an escalator or not allowing an escalator. He
stated that he was in support of completed applications as of 11/22/OS being
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allowed to go under the existing policy and that anything going forward after
that, would be under the "may" policy.
Councilmember Buckley inquired on which of the 6 developers who had paid
their deposits, had completed applications in to the City.
Community Development Director Preisendanz stated that a116 developers had
incomplete applications.
Councilmember Buckley inquired if a 1.8% cap was considered in place of the
2% escalator.
Administrative Services Director Pressey indicated that a 1.8% cap was not
analyzed. He stated that the 1.8% cap would not be as big of an impact as the
2% escalator.
Councilmember Buckley inquired if the developer would be able to finance
some of the new fees if they were not able to get the 2%.
City Attorney Leibold requested further clarification.
Councilmember Buckley inquired if everything except Development
Agreement Fees could be financed.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that Development Impact Fees could be
included in a CFD if the funds were used for capital.
Councilmember Hickman inquired on how many developers were anticipated in
addition to the 6 that the City had applications for already.
Community Development Director Preisendanz anticipated that no more than
10 were expected.
Councilmember Kelley stated that she was in favor of completed applications in
front of Council having the opportunity to go with the 2% escalator, and
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anything after would go under the new policy. She stated that Council should
allow the word "may" in the new policy.
Mayor Magee stated that the developer could come up with the plan and then
Council would have the ability to decide whether it was good or bad and could
be supported by Council.
36. Industrial Design Review No. 2004-09 for the project known as "Self Storage
Facility".
Councilmember Buckley said he had a problem with the documents not being
legible.
Community Development Directar Preisendanz stated that the package should
have only included the industrial building.
Councilmember Buckley stated that he did not feel he was in a position to make
a decision on the design review since he did not have a feeling of what the
entire building would look like.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner stated that he was not too concerned with the look of
the building since it was located in an industrial area.
City Treasurer Weber inquired if the project would generate any tax money.
City Attorney Leibold noted that the City received property tax from the
project.
City Manager Brady noted that the project was not a retail use and would not
generate the sales taY of a major retail chain.
Councilmember Hickman requested clarification of how the 2"d story of garage
doors would be utilized.
Senior Planner Harris noted that the facility would be utilizing freight elevators.
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Mayor Magee inquired when the application for the project was filed.
Community Development Director Preisendanz stated that the project had been
in house for quite a while and he had been working with the applicant
continuously to try and draw plans that were near the City standards. He noted
that every recommendation that he had provided had been completed by the
applicant.
Mayor Magee inquired if the proj ect was a permitted use under the current
general plan and zoning designation.
Community Development Director Preisendanz confirmed that the project was
a permitted use under the current general plan and zoning designation.
Councilmember Kelley inquired if the existing building located in the middle of
the plans would be occupied by the applicant.
Senior Planner Harris indicated that there was an existing house on the project,
and the applicant had planned to convert that house into an office and also a
manager's living quarters in the rear.
Councilmember Kelley suggested holding off on the project until the applicant
could come up with plans that were up to City standard.
Mayar Magee requested confirmation from Community Development Director
Preisendanz if the project was a complete application; and that the use was
currently permitted under the general plan.
Community Development Director Preisendanz confirmed.
37. Industrial Design Review No. 2005-03, Vanderhoek Industrial Buildings
No comments.
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REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Warrant List - November 15, 2005.
No comments.
2. Investment Report for August 2005.
No comments.
3. Approval of New Ownership of Lakeside Apartments.
Chairman Hickman inquired if there was any reason why the item should be
held up.
Legal Counsel Leibold confirmed that there was not any reason why the
project should be held up.
ADJOURNMENT
THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY STUDY
SESSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 5:15 P.M.
ROBE E. GEE, AYOR
CI'~Y OF LAKE TLeSI ORE
DARYL HICKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
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JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 13, 2005
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner called the 3oint Study Session to order at 4:12 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, HICKMAN,
KELLEY, SCHIFFNER
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: MAGEE
(Mayor Magee arrived at 4:12 p.m.)
Also present were: City Manager Brady, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Pressey, Information/Communications
Manager Dennis, Community Services Director Sapp, Community
Development Director Preisendanz, Senior Planner Harris, Associate Planner
Coury, City Engineer Seumalo, Building and Safety Manager Chipman,
Recreation/Tourism Manager Fazzio, Pub~ic Works Manager Payne, City
Treasurer Weber and Deputy City Clerk Soto.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner gave an overview of the presentations; and confirmed
that the awardees would be present at the 7:00 p.m. meeting.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS
No comments.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Minutes.
Councilmember Buckley requested that the wording in Item lb of the minutes
on page 5 out of 13 should say "participating" in place of "voting".
City Attorney Leibold confirmed that was correct.
2. Warrant List - November 20, 2005.
Councilmember Hickman requested clarification of various checks issued on
the warrant list. Staff clarified the items.
Resolution of Intention to Annex property into Community Facilities District
No. 2003-1 (Law Enforcement, Fire and Paramedic Services) authorize the
levy of a special tax within Annexation Area No. 16 (TR 32129).
No comments.
4. Resolution initiating proceedings and approving the Engineer's report for the
Annexation of certain territory known as Tracts 30698 & 32129 into the City
of Lake Elsinore Landscape and Lighting District No. 1, as LLMD
Annexation No. 9(TR 30698 & 32129), declaring the City's intention to order
the Annexation and to levy and collect assessments, determining that these
proceedings shall be taken pursuant to the Landscaping and Lighting Act of
1972 and the Right to Vote on Taxes Act, and offering a time and place for
hearing objections thereto.
No comments.
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5. Resolution of Intention to Annex property into Community Facilities District
No. 2003-1 (Law Enforcement, Fire and Paramedic Services) and to authorize
the levy of a special tax within Annexation Area No. 15 (La Strada).
No comments.
6. Resolution initiating proceedings and approving the Engineer's report for the
Annexation of certain territory known as Tract 32077 into the City of Lake
Elsinore Landscape and Street Lighting District No. 1, as LLMD Annexation
No. 8(La Strada), declaring the City's intention to order the Annexation and
to levy and collect assessments, determining that these proceedings shall be
taken pursuant to the Landscaping and Lighting Act of 1972 and the Right to
Vote on Taxes Act, and offering a time and place for hearing objections
thereto.
No comments.
7. Final Map No. 33191.
Councilmember Hickman inquired if the site would include manufactured
homes.
City Manager Brady indicated that he did not believe that they had come
through for design review for the item.
Councilmember Buckley inquired on the size of the lots.
Adobe Flats Land Company Representative confirmed that the lot sizes were
7,200 square feet.
8. Final Map No. 28214-4.
No comments.
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9. Poe Street Pavement Rehabilitation Change Order No. 2.
Mayor Magee inquired if the issues had been addressed regarding Richard and
Barbara Brown.
City Manager Brady indicated that the issues had been addressed.
Councilmember Hickman inquired when Franklin Street would be
rehabilitated.
City Manager Brady indicated that Franklin Street was a part of an unfunded
Capital Improvement Project. He said it could be reviewed as part of the mid-
year budget cycle.
Councilmember Buckley inquired if the money could be used to redo the road
in place of putting in the light that the Rodeo Ground had to pay for.
City Manager Brady stated that he would look into that idea.
Councilmember Hickman inquired on the exact location of the light to be
placed on Franklin Street.
City Engineer Seumalo indicated that the light would be placed on Main
Street and Franklin Street.
10. Alberhill Ranch Community Parlc Conceptual Design Approval.
Councilmember Buckley inquired if there were any baseball fields, or if there
were only soccer fields.
Community Services Director Sapp confirmed that there were only soccer
fields.
Councilmember Buckley inquired if that was due to the demographic or if
more soccer fields were needed.
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Community Services Director Sapp indicated that more soccer fields were
needed.
Councilmember Kelley stated that at her last Boys and Girls Club meeting
there were two different concepts. She inquired what had happened to the
other concept.
Community Services Director Sapp indicated both concepts were reviewed,
and it was decided that Concept B was the better of the two. He stated that the
parking layout allowed better access to the fields.
Councilmember Kelley noted that the Committee looked at both concepts.
She noted that the Police Chief commented that by separating the buildings in
Concept B it would make it more difficult to patrol. She also noted that
Concept B put the recreation center closer to the homes. She inquired if there
was a baseball diamond located in the park.
Community Services Directar Sapp stated that there was not a designed
baseball field, however; there was enough space allocated to play baseball if
someone were to come in and set up bases. He noted that he had a discussion
with the Police Chief who had indicated that when the community center was
designed there would be a substation incorporated into the community center.
Councilmember Hickman inquired if there were any walking trails located
within the park.
Community Services Director Sapp indicated that there would be a sidewalk
that encompassed the entire park.
Councilmember Buckley inquired if the Boys and Girls Club approved of
Concept B.
Councilmember Kelley indicated that they felt there were good qualities about
each concept. She noted that Concept B would be fine for the Boys and Girls
Club.
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11. Claims against the City.
Councilmember Buckley inquired if a number of claims ha~ing to do with
Corydon were on the County or City side.
Mayor Magee indicated that the claims did not specify if the claimant was
traveling east or west bound.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
21. Supplemental Environmental Impact Report (SCH No. 2005061033); General
Plan Amendment No. 2005-07; Amendment No. 8 to the East Lake Specific
Plan No. 93-3; and Vesting Tentative Tract Map No. 34017.
Leonard Leichnitz, LUMOS Coininunities, stated that he had wanted to clarify
3 issues that had been brought up at the Planning Commission meeting. He
noted that the first issue had to do with scaling down Bundy Canyon Road from
61anes to 4lanes. He noted that the misconception had to do with Jolu1 Laing
Homes building 6lanes and that he was building 4. He noted that was not
correct. He indicated that Diamond Drive was 4lanes and that it would be 4
lanes all the way through. He noted that it was in question where Bundy
Canyon Road would come through and if it would continue to go through the
back basin. He noted that was an issue that the GPAC was dealing with and
would be dealt with as part of the General Plan update. He stated that the
General Plan Amendment before Council would be modified to take out the
request to go from 6lanes to 4lanes.
City Engineer Seumalo confirmed that the General Plan required 6lanes.
City Manager Brady confirmed that Diamond Drive would go through to Bundy
Canyon Road.
Councilmember Hickman inquired how the airport and motocross park would
be affected.
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Mr. Leichnitz stated that the other issue he wanted to address was the exact
alignment of Diamond Drive or Bundy Canyon Road through what was
currently a self-starage facility. He noted that his preferred alignment was
through Cereal Street. He explained tl~rough a series of ineetings with the City
and County Transportation staff over the last 18 months that alignment was
rejected by technical staff since it resulted in a very tight curve. He stated that
the only way that the City and County Transportation staff would sign off on
the connection anywhere in that area was if it was brought to the south of that
property. He noted that was why the alignment went through the self-storage
facility instead of through Cereal Street.
Mr. Leichnitz stated where the airport and motocross park would be relocated.
Councilmember Hickman inquired if the alignment had any affect on Mr.
Vermillion's property.
Mr. Leichnitz explained that certain people, including Mr. Vermillion, had
taken the position that they had a right to use Mr. Leichnitz's property as a taaci
way to get from their property down to the future airport. He explained that he
did not believe that they had any such right. He noted that he agreed to work
with Mr. Pribble on a lot line adjustment.
Mr. Leichnitz stated that the third issue he wanted to address had to do with the
water table. He stated the proposed location of the motocross tract was at an
elevation of approximately 1,235 feet. He stated that according to the drilling
and testing that he had performed to know where the water tables were
concluded that they were approximately 15-20 feet lower than that elevation.
He noted that the water table should not present a problem. He stated that the
area would be graded to a master detention basin.
Mayor Magee inquired if the road bed on Diamond Drive between Mission
Trail and Campbell Street was 80 feet.
City Engineer Seumalo confirmed.
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Mayor Magee noted that the General Plan requested 120 feet. He further
inquired if the City should ask for 120 feet the whole way to be consistent.
City Engineer Seumalo indicated that staff's recommendation required the
General Plan recommendation. He stated that if the GPAC updated and
reduced it, the street would be able to downsize.
Mayor Magee indicated that he had received a letter from Skydive Lake
Elsinore that noted they opposed the project. He inquired how many flights
occurred in a day at Mentor Aviation.
City Manager Brady indicated that he did not believe they had any flights. He
noted that Skylark Airport was where all the flights originated.
Mayor Magee inquired if Mentor Aviation had a business license.
City Manager Brady indicated he would need to confirm if they had a business
license.
Mayor Magee indicated that a letter received from Mr. Vermillion indicated
that he had recently purchased an office trailer as temporary quarters to
reactivate his Skylark Travel Agency. He inquired if that was a permitted use
in the City.
Community Development Director Preisendanz indicated that he had not
received an application for that item.
Mayor Magee indicated that he was unable to locate the address of Dick Evans
at 31953 Corydon Street. He inquired if that address was a vacant lot. He
stated that the letter received was printed out on letterhead that noted Dick
Evans Transportation. He inquired if they had a business license.
City Manager Brady indicated he would need to confirm if they had a business
license.
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Mayor Magee inquired if Mr. Leichnitz had decided whether or not he would
like to pay the fee, dedicate land, ar build units with respect to the conditions of
approval for the 15% requirement for low/moderate income housing.
Mr. Leichnitz stated that he was open to any of those options. He noted that it
was his understanding that there was going to be a new in-lieu fee considered
by Council. He stated that he would like the opportunity to look at those
amounts to decide which course to take.
Councilmember Buckley inquired when the airport needed to be moved and if
there were any guarantees that they would be able to move.
Mr. Leichnitz stated that in terms of timing, it would depend on how long it
took him to process and design all of his grading plans. He noted that it was a
large and complicated proj ect. He anticipated that the airport would need to
move in 6 to 9 months at the earliest. He stated that in terms that they would be
guaranteed to move, he stated that he was not in control of whether they would
have a place to go that would be timely ready for them.
Councilmember Buckley inquired if the current airport area could be graded
last.
Mr. Leichnitz indicated that it could not be graded last. He noted that he had a
written agreement with the motocross park, since it would be on his property,
which stated that he would organize his grading around trying to impact their
business as little as possible. He stated that since he had an agreement with the
motocross park to impact them as little as possible it would be difficult to do the
same thing at the same time with another recreational user.
Mr. Leichnitz stated that Mr. Pribble indicated that he would not be able to have
something built ovemight, but he could grade a runway rather quickly. Mr.
Leichnitz stated that if Mr. Pribble could have access from where they were
over his property down to a temporary runway it would be a sufficient short-
term solution.
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Mayor Magee stated that there had been some concern with the airport uses
since they were uncertain about where they were to go because of Mr.
Leichnitz's project. He noted that after tonight's meeting it was liable to have a
more clear understanding if the project should get approved. He noted that the
airport indicated that they had worked out a deai with the adjacent property
Mentor Aviation. He stated that there needed to be encouragement with the
Conditional Use Permit.
Councilmember Kelley stated that she thought the architectural design of Mr.
Leichnitz's project was very nice. She inquired if there had been a meeting
scheduled with Mr. Leichnitz, Mr. Perez and the City regarding Bundy Canyon
Road.
Mr. Leichnitz indicated that a meeting had not yet been scheduled.
Councilmeinber Kelley stated that she was extremely interested in finding out
the details of that future meeting with the County.
Councilmember Buckley inquired about the current eminent domain powers.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that the Redevelopment Agency's eminent
domain powers had expired.
Councilmember Buckley inquired if the City had authority to condemn property
for public infrastructure such as roads.
City Attorney Leibold confirmed.
Councilmember Buckley inquired if the airport could be considered as a public
use for purposes of eminent domain.
City Attorney Leibold stated that a City could condemn property for a
public/municipal airport.
Community Development Director Preisendanz stated that Conditions of
Approval Nos. 7& 51 needed to be revised.
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APPEALS
22. Appeal to City Council of Determination and Order of Abatement of Nuisance.
Tim Fleming, 17970 Lakeshore Drive, stated that he had followed the
manufactured home issue in the City for the past few years. He stated that he
had heard that it was mandated by the State of California to allow those types of
structures to be put in the City. He noted that the City had a developer who was
blatantly placing manufactured structures on vacant lots before any approvals
and stating that there was no code or Ordinance that stated manufactured
structures could not be placed on vacant lots. He asked Council to direct City
staff to come up with an Ordinance inhibiting the proliferation of manufactured
homes and to require that all the structures in question to be removed with lots
returned to their original conditions until the correct procedures were adhered
to.
Councilmember Hickman inquired if the property owner had any other
properties with manufactured homes other than 1411 Pottery Street and if they
were approved.
Community Development Director Preisendanz stated that he would need to
identify which lots and addresses those were. He noted that the lot involved in
the discussion was the one that was specifically tagged and identified as being
one that had never received any Planning Commission approval.
Councilmember Hickman inquired if the plans for the lot in discussion had been
misplaced.
Building and Safety Manager Chipman indicated that the plans were submitted
by the applicant for minor design review. He noted that the applicant had
attempted to use a base modular home and place it on 4 separate distinct lots.
He noted several of the lots were approved. He noted that the lot in discussion
never had approval but the applicant went ahead and placed the mobile on the
lot without any type City approval or permits.
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Councilmember Buckley inquired on the process to appeal a nuisance.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that once the Nuisance Abatement Committee
held a hearing and made a determination the offender would have an
opporiunity to appeal. She noted that the City Council would make the final
determination.
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Commercial Design Review No. 2005-02 known as Lake Elsinore Ford.
Councilmember Buckley inquired if the Ford dealership would turn into a
Jeep/Chrysler dealership.
City Manager Brady confirmed.
Councilmember Buckley inquired on the number of parking spaces the current
location ofthe Ford dealership had.
Mayor Magee inquired if the unpaved parking would cease upon approval of
the project.
City Manager Brady indicated that the project was going to be developed on the
majority of the area that was being used for unpaved parking. He stated that
there would still be parking on the street.
Councilmember Kelley indicated that the new dealership had 687 parking
spaces.
Eric Markinson, 18025 Skypark Circle, Irvine, stated he was the architect far
the project. He noted that there were two different tallies noted on the map. He
noted one of the numbers referred to the number of vehicles that could be stared
on site. He noted that the lower number referenced the required number far
parking per City standard. He stated that they were meeting a requirement for
service, parts, sales and employees for the entire project. He noted that they
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would be provide 265 striped parking stalls for the before mentioned and a total
availability to park over 600 vehicles on the site.
Councilmember Hickman inquired if Auto Center Drive was designated as a
two-lane roadway or a four-lane roadway.
City Engineer Seumalo indicated that the current General Plan circulation
element showed it as a four-lane roadway with a center median.
Councilmember Buckley inquired if they would be requesting a sales tax
reimbursement request.
City Manager Brady confinned that they would be requesting one.
Councilmember Buckley suggested having that included as part of the Design
Review.
City Manager Brady indicated that the sales tax reimbursement request would
be similar to what had been brought to Council in the past.
Mayor Magee noted his disappointment that the applicant would be requesting a
sales tax reimbursement agreement. He stated that the request was not noted
anywhere in the staff report.
32. Commercial Design Review No. 2005-06 for the project known as "Holiday Inn
Express Hotel".
Bill Dixon, 21067 Kimberly Court, stated that he had researched the item. He
handed out a packet to the Council of the items he had gathered as part of his
research. He noted the October 24, 2000 study session minutes which stated
that Councilmember Schiffner clarified the restrictions of the Specific Plan.
Mr. Dixon then noted that the October 24, 2000 study session minutes stated
that Community Development Directar Brady indicated that the Planning
Commission had recominended elimination of all service stations, car washes,
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hotels and tenant type facilities within the area and was included as part of the
recommendations for commercial uses allowed within the zone.
Mr. Dixon also noted that the October 24, 2000 study session minutes stated
that Community Development Director Brady had advised that the applicant
had indicated that the hotel and tenants issue was not a concern to him;
however, he would like the opportunity to develop a car wash and gasoline-
dispensing facility. Mr. Dixon stated that was an agreement made in the year
2000 for when Bill Kipp wanted to turn his land into residential/commercial.
Mr. Dixon stated that when Mr. Kipp acquired the land it was known as multi-
family residentiaL Mr. Dixon noted that was a unanimous agreement made by
Council with the residents who lived there at that time.
Mr. Dixon noted a traffic study performed that was named Canyon Creek
Specific Plan Amendment No. l. He noted that it was prepared by the City of
Lake Elsinore. He stated that the applicant was Abbacy Holding Company. He
noted that in summary the traffic study stated that in the year 2000 the
estimated traffic based on the conditions as they were, had indicated that in
2005 the road would become congested to a deep level. He noted that Caltrans
had grades that measured the level of service that were explained in the packet.
Mr. Dixon noted that the study indicated that once businesses were put into
place, Canyon Estates would have to be widened to a four-lane road to handle
the flow of traffic safely.
Mr. Dixon stated that he had hoped Council would have the opportunity to
review the information. He noted that he would be elaborating in detail on
specific issues at the 7 p.m. ineeting.
Mayor Magee thanked Mr. Dixon for his cominents.
Councilmember Hickman inquired if Council could overturn Planning
Commission's decisions on Conditional Use Permits.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that the Conditional Use Permit was a final
determination by the Planning Commission unless appealed. She noted that the
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CUP determination by the Planning Commission was not appealed. She noted
that what was before Council that evening was a Design Review. She indicated
that under the City's Municipal Code, the Design Review provided an
opportunity far a very broad of scope of review.
Councilmember Hickman inquired if elected officials were not able to overturn
something in a Commission which consisted of appointed people.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that the Planning Commission was a product of
the Municipal Code and of the California Government Code. She noted that
under the City's Municipal Code the Planning Commission was provided final
determination of Conditional Use Permits. She noted that the City of Lake
Elsinore provided fairly narrow autharity to its Planning Commission. She
indicated that in some communities the planning commission is the final
determining authority on many land use entitlements unless appealed.
Councilmember Hickman inquired if the Planning Commission superceded the
decisions of the Council on Conditional Use Permits.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that Council, the applicant and anyone in the
community had an opportunity to appeal a Planning Commission action on a
Conditional Use Permit.
Councilmember Hickman stated that upon reading the paperwork he had
noticed that the Planning Commission had approved two hotels.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that the Specific Plan included a laundry list of
Conditionally Permitted Uses and a provision that allowed the Planning
Commission, by resolution, to add conditionally permitted uses that they
determine to be consistent and appropriate. She noted that the Planning
Commission identified hotel uses as a Conditionally Permitted Use on two sites
and issued a CUP for the development, establishment and operation of an actual
a hotel on site 1. She noted that any proposed use on site 2 in the future would
require a CUP.
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Councilmember Kelley thanked Mr. Dixon for the infarmation that he supplied.
She inquired if the action that the Planning Commission had taken put the
condition back in as a use.
City Attorney Leibold stated that the Planning Commission added hotels as a
Conditionally Permitted Use for two sites in the Specific Plan. She noted that
the Planning Commission issued the applicant a CUP for site 1.
Councilmember Kelley indicated that the minutes Mr. Dixon provided were not
an agreement but were actions that were taken.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that the adopted Specific Plan authorized the
Planning Commission, by resolutions, to add Conditionally Permitted Uses.
She noted that the Planning Cominission took advantage of that provision in the
Specific Plan for 2 sites by adding hotel uses as a Conditionally Permitted Use.
She noted that any further project that fell within a Conditionally Permitted
Use, such as a hotel on site 2, would require a new Conditional Use Permit.
Councilmember Kelley stated that what was before Council was only approval
for the design of the building and not whether a hotel was a permitted land use
to be placed there. She had noted that Councii could ha~e overturned the
Planning Commission's decision if one of them had filed an appeal in the
allotted time. She noted that no one on the Council or any of the residents filed
an appeal.
Councilmember Buckley inquired if the actual project itself could be denied.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that the Planning Commission recommended
approval of the Design Review Application. She noted that a Design Review
looked to the specifics of proposed projects. She indicated that the CUP
provided an underlying permitted use based on certain conditions.
Councilmember Kelley inquired if the Council were to find any problems with
the design review, the remedy would be for the applicant to redesign or mitigate
those problems and then bring the saine project back with those problems
answered.
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City Attorney Leibold confirmed that was correct. She noted that in the event
that Council did not approve the Design Review Application and the developer
objected to the conditions imposed by the Council, the applicant would have the
opportunity to apply for a new design review and start the process fresh with
the Planning Department and then on to the Planning Commission with the
recommendation to Council.
Councilmember Hickman inquired when the traffic study was conducted.
Community Development Director Preisendanz indicated that the traffic study
was done in 2000.
Councilmember Hickman cominented on the amount of development that has
been completed since the year 2000. He inquired on why a traffic study from
the year 2000 was used since the area had expanded so rapidly.
Community Development Director Preisendanz indicated that the traffic study
considered the General Plan land use and the maximum capacity of land use at
the time. He noted that the traffic study was looking at the maximum build out
in the area. He noted that when they had looked at the use for the project they
considered the traffic generated from the hotel as compared to a permitted use
and it showed the hotel generated 1/3 less traffic. He noted that upon looking at
the traffic and the traffic study, it was not felt that it would generate enough
traffic to cause a problem or substantial change in the original environmental
situation.
Councilmember Hiclanan commented on the employees from the bank that
parked along Canyon Estates Drive. He noted the current traffic congestion in
the area and suggested that with the hotel there would be more congestion and
that people would be parking in the residential areas.
Community Development Director Preisendanz suggested that the bank
employees be kept on site and perhaps painting a segment of the curb to
prohibit parking.
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Councilmember Hickman inquired how truckers would be prevented from
coming in and parking.
Community Development Director indicated that there was no prevention in the
sense of truckers coming in. He noted that the hotel was a higher rent per night.
He noted that there was nothing to prevent truckers from going into the site. He
noted that a lot of the neighbors had complained about truckers coming in and
going through their neighborhood and going back out again. He stated that they
did speak to the applicant about posting a sign that stated no trucks or RVs
would be allowed.
Councilmember Hickman inquired if site 2 was going to be a hotel.
Community Development Director Preisendanz indicated that it had not come
through yet. He noted that the developer's intent was to concentrate hotel uses
on both sites. He noted that site 2 was not approved and that it still needed to
go through the Conditional Use Permit process and Design Review process.
Councilmember Hickman inquired how long Mr. Preisendanz had known of the
project and why the GPAC was not aware of it.
Community Development Director Preisendanz indicated that the project was
an entitlement under the Specific Plan and not a General Plan land use
designation.
City Attorney Leibold noted that the General Plan provided the general
landscape in terms of land uses. She noted the implementation of those
designations with this project was by way of Specific Plan. She noted the
Specific Plan was the equivalent of a zoning enactment.
Councilmember Buckley commented on the discussion of the Specific Plan and
when things were supposed to go to the GPAC. He noted that the Specific Plan
did not allow hotels at that time. He suggested that every project with a CUP
should go to the GPAC.
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Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner stated that the General Plan did not affect the
property. He noted that the Specific Plan did not deny hotels; it stated that it
took them off the normal approval.
Mr. Dixon stated that he provided both study session and City Council meeting
minutes in the packet he earlier distributed. He noted that the meetings both
said the same thing. He further noted that the Council minutes stated that the
Planning Commission recommended the elimination of the gas station
dispensing facility, hotels, car washes and public utility sub-stations. Mr.
Dixon stated that when Community Development Director Brady had asked the
applicant about Planning Commission's recommendation he stated they had no
problem with it. Mr. Dixon stated that with Council not being able to overturn
the Planning Commissions rules, the Planning Commission failed in two of the
burdens to supply residents with correct information on when the Planning
Commission meetings took place. He stated that the notice in the paper noted
an incorrect time of 7 p.m. Secondly, he stated that the sign that was posted
that was supposed to be there for 10 days, by law, had to be legible and correct.
He noted that the sign listed the wrong date. He stated that two of the three
burdens of proof failed. He indicated that because of the noticing, the meeting
never took place in the law's eyes. He stated that Council could overturn the
item at that point.
Mayor Magee referred to City Attorney Leibold and inquired if there was a
notification problem.
City Attorney Leibold stated that it was her understanding that there was not a
notification problem. She indicated that the Planning Department provided
mailed notice to a radius in excess of the required 300 feet. She indicated that
the mailed notice was sent to property owners within a 500-foot radius.
Community Development Director Preisendanz stated that the City was
required by the Development Code, by law, to notice through the newspaper.
He noted that the title company's certified assessor's list was utilized.
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City Attorney Leibold inquired if the mailed notice was correct.
Community Development Director Preisendanz confirmed.
City Attorney Leibold inquired if the legal notice in the newspaper was correct.
Community Development Director Preisendanz confirmed.
Community Development Director Preisendanz stated that the only mistake
made was the billboard on the site which stated November 16, 2005. He stated
there was a notice posted on the billboard that showed the correct date. He
stated that they followed the proper noticing process.
Councilmember Hickman inquired how many notices were sent.
Community Development Director Preisendanz stated that he would need to
obtain that information. He stated that a notice was sent out to over a 1,000
foot radius for the 7 p.m. Council meeting.
Councilmember Hickman inquired if Mr. Dixon received a notice.
Mr. Dixon stated that he did not receive a notice.
Councilmember Kelley inquired on the absence of Commissioner Francia and
Commissioner Gonzales at the November 15, 2005 Planning Commission
meeting.
City Manager Brady confirmed that was a typo.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that all members were present and a113
resolutions and the CUPs had a 3-2 vote with Commissioner Francia and
Commissioner Gonzales casting the descending votes.
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33. Improvement Credit/Reimbursement Agreement far TUMF (Oak Grove
Crossing Shopping Center).
No comments.
34. Cooperation Agreement with Riverside County Flood Control and Water
Conservation District and Cambern and Central Investors; Implementation
Agreement with Cambem and Central Investars.
Councilmember Buckley stated that the agreement would cost the City a little
money and inquired if that was something that could be deducted out of the
reimbursement.
City Attorney Leibold stated that the intent of the Implementation Agreement
was that the developer would undertake all of the responsibility for maintenance
and operation of those improvements. She noted that if the developer failed to
take those obligations the City had a right to deduct those costs from the City's
payment under the Infrastructure Lease Agreement.
Mayor Magee inquired on the status of Costco.
City Manager Brady clarified that Costco was under construction and they had
pulled permits 2 weeks ago and should be open in May 2006.
George Etzel, 29315 3`d Street, stated that he lived 2 blocks from the Costco
shopping center. He noted that he had hoped that the City was doing the Costco
project right. He stated that the parking lots were at a 90 degree angle and very
difficult to maneuver in. He recommended using a 45 degree angle. He noted
that Council needed to make sure that all projects had a 45 degree angle for
their parking. He noted that changing the degree in the angle of parking spaces
would contribute to customer convenience and public safety.
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35. Affordable Housing in Lieu Fee Agreement and Inclusionary Housing
Conditions of approval.
Leonard Leichnitz, LUMOS Communities, indicated that the City Attorney had
clarified his question prior to the start of the study session.
Councilmember Hickman stated that the builders were not opposed to the $2.
He noted that they were asking to have a little more time to work with the
Committee. He suggested that the City take on the $3.50 and back track it until
March. He was informed that no other City in Riverside was collecting
Inclusionary Housing Fees.
Mayor Magee noted that part of the reason no one else had that kind of fee was
due to the fact that no one else had the amount of redevelopment area that the
City had. He indicated that the City fathers established a vast majority of the
City as redevelopment areas including vacant land. He noted that State Law
required that the City comply with the 15% rule.
Mayor Magee stated that he had asked staff if the BIA had been notified. He
indicated that they said they were not notified and that they wanted more time.
He noted that they should be granted more time and a seat at the table.
Councilmember Buckley inquired if they were requesting mare time to discuss
the fee or more time to discuss the next ordinance. He noted that he was okay
with the $2 and $3.50 and then bringing the BIA in to discuss how the final
Inclusionary Housing Ordinance would go forward.
Mayor Magee stated that he was okay with the individuals who had agreed to
the $2 fee he was okay with, anything else he was not.
City Attorney Leibold encouraged the Council to provide clear direction. She
noted that the RDA Advisory Committee had suggested $2 per square foot for
projects that had already been approved and had existing Conditions of
Approval. She noted that if they wanted to postpone any acceleration of that $2
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per square foot then they needed to make clear whether or not they wanted the
$2 to apply to all projects coming in over the next 60 days.
Mayor Magee inquired how many residential prbjects were anticipated to come
before Council in the month of January.
Community Development Director Preisendanz indicated that he anticipated
only one project to come before Council at that time.
Mayor Magee inquired how many units the project would include.
Community Development Director Preisendanz indicated that he anticipated the
project to have 70 units.
36. Annual Financial Reports for Fiscal Year ending June 30, 2005.
Mayor Magee stated that the City Treasurer had contacted him regarding his
concern with the timeliness of the delivery for the documents.
City Treasurer Weber indicated that he was given the documents that morning
around 10 a.m. He stated that he had not had time to thoroughly review the
information.
Mayor Magee inquired if City Treasurer Weber preferred to continue the Item
until the first meeting in January.
City Treasurer Weber indicated that he thought the Item needed to be approved
by December 31, 2005.
Councilmember Buckley inquired if Council could adopt a motion that accepted
and then instructed the City Treasurer at the first meeting in January to come
back with a report of his coinments on the document.
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City Attorney Leibold stated that the requirement was that the City Treasurer
was provided the annual statement prepared by the auditars and an adequate
opportunity for comments.
Mayor Magee inquired if the City Treasurer was comfortable providing his
comments at the January meeting under the City Treasurer Comments section
of the agenda.
City Treasurer Weber stated that he would be okay with that.
37. Reorganization of City Council.
Councilmember Buckley inquired how the process for reorganization would
work.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that the Council could convene as all three
bodies concurrently and run the items together.
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes.
No comments.
2. Warrant List - November 30, 2005.
No comments.
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PUBLIC HEARING
3. Supplemental Environmental Impact Report (SCH No. 2005061033);
General Plan Amendment No. 2005-07; Amendment No. 8 to the East Lake
Specific Plan No. 93-3; and Vesting Tentative Tract Map No. 34017.
No comments.
BUSINESS ITEMS
4. Commercial Design Review No. 2005-06 for the project known as "Holiday
Inn Express Hotel".
No comments.
5. Commercial Design Review No. 2005-02 known as Lake Elsinare Ford.
No comments.
6. Annual Financial Reports for Fiscal year ending June 30, 2005.
No comments.
7. Affordable Housing in Lieu Fee Agreement and Inclusionary Housing
Conditions of ApprovaL
No comments.
8. Reorganization of the Redevelopment Agency.
No comments.
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ADJOURNMENT
THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPME GENCY STUDY
SESSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 5:57 P.M.
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ROB~'12T E. MAGEE, MA~'bR
CITY OF LAKE ELSIN~~2E
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~ YL HICKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
, Resp ctfully submitted,
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ELLE SOTO, DEPUTY CITY CLERK
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Y, CITY CLERK
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