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CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
MINUTES
NOVEMBER 2, 2010
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Gonzales called the regular meeting of the Lake Elsinore Planning
Commission held on Tuesday, November 2, 2010 to order at 6:00 p.m. in the
Cultural Center, located at 183 N. Main Street, Lake Elsinore, CA 92530.
PRESENT: Chairman Gonzales, Vice-Chairman Mendoza, Commissioner
Jordan, Commissioner Morsch, Commissioner O'Neal
ABSENT: None
Also present: City Manager Brady, City Attorney Leibold
Staff members present included: Senior Planner Harris, Planning Consultant
Coury, Public Works Director Seumalo, and Office Specialist Reid.
CALL TO ORDER (6:00 p.m.)
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Vice-Chairman Mendoza
ROLL CALL
Present: Chairman Gonzales
Vice-Chairman Mendoza
Commissioner Jordan
Commissioner Morsch
Commissioner O'Neal
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON AGENDIZED ITEMS - 3 MINUTES
None.
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM(S)
(1) Approval of Planning Commission Minutes
Recommendation: Approve the following Minute(s):
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a. July 6, 2010
b. July 20, 2010
MOTION was made by Commissioner O'Neal, seconded by
Commissioner Jordan and unanimously carried to approve the July
6, 2010, Planning Commission minutes, and the July 20, 2010,
Planning Commission minutes.
AYES: Chairman Gonzales, Vice Chairman Mendoza,
Commissioner Jordan, Commissioner Morsch,
Commissioner O'Neal
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
PUBLIC HEARING ITEM(S)
(2) Tentative Parcel Map No. 35135: A request to subdivide an existina 9.07
acre site into four (4) parcels within the General Commercial (C-2) District
Recommendation:
a. Adopt a resolution adopting findings that the project is consistent
with the Multiple Species Habitat Conservation Plan: and
b.
and proposed Conditions of Approval.
City Manager Brady provided an overview of the project and requested
that Planning Consultant Coury review it with the Commission and answer
questions.
Planning Consultant Coury indicated that the project was continued from
three (3) previous meetings to this evening's Planning Commission
meeting. He stated that there has been extensive discussion relative to
the proposed parcel map and that the applicant is requesting to subdivide
an existing 9.07 acre site into four (4) parcels within the General
Commercial (C-2) District and Staff is recommending approval of the
project.
Commissioner Jordan requested that the Conditions of Approval should
be revised to state "Final Map" instead of "Tentative Parcel Map".
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Commissioner Morsch thanked the City Manager and the City Attorney for
working out the issues that he had. He indicated that Shopping Centers
are different than a single building on a C-2 Commercial lot and stated that
the proposed Amendment should bring this particular project into
compliance but believes that the City should look further ahead and
entertain the idea of a new section to the Code that addresses Shopping
Centers specifically. He concurs that the Amendment to Title 17 is
needed and supports the project as it stands.
Commissioner O'Neal had no comments.
Vice-Chairman Mendoza thanked the applicant for being patient with the
Commission and thanked staff for completing the project.
Chairman Gonzales thanked the applicant for his patience.
Passed and adopted the following Resolution:
"Resolution No. 2010-44 - A Resolution of the Planning Commission of the
City of Lake Elsinore, California, adopting findings that the project is
consistent with the Multiple Species Habitat Conservation Plan (MSHCP)".
MOTION was made by Commissioner O'Neal, seconded by Commissioner
Jordan and unanimously carried adopting findings that the project is
consistent with the Multiple Species Habitat Conservation Plan (MSHCP).
AYES: Chairman Gonzales, Vice Chairman Mendoza,
Commissioner Jordan, Commissioner Morsch,
Commissioner O'Neal
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Passed and adopted the following Resolution:
"Resolution No. 2010-45 - A Resolution of the Planning Commission of the
City of Lake Elsinore, California, recommending to the City Council of the
City of Lake Elsinore, approval of Tentative Parcel Map No. 35135, located
at 32250 Mission Trail with revisions to the Conditions of Approval.
MOTION was made by Vice-Chairman Mendoza, seconded by
Commissioner Jordan and unanimously carried recommending to the City
Council of the City of Lake Elsinore, approval of Tentative Parcel Map No.
35135, located at 32250 Mission Trail with revisions to the Conditions of
Approval.
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AYES: Chairman Gonzales, Vice Chairman Mendoza,
Commissioner Jordan, Commissioner Morsch,
Commissioner O'Neal
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
There was discussion between the Commissioners regarding the proposed
Amendment to the Code and various issues that need to be reviewed within
the Code.
City Manager Brady suggested bringing this item back to the Commission for
consideration. He indicated that the process for Code Amendments is
initiated by Staff and then brought to the Commission for recommendation to
the City Council. He noted that Staff is aware that there are a number of
issues with the Development Code as it currently exists but suggested that it
be reviewed after the General Plan is adopted.
Commissioner Morsch asked if the appropriate time to amend the Code
should be concurrently with the review of the General Plan, before hand, or
after the adoption of the General Plan.
City Manager Brady suggested that once the General Plan is adopted, Staff
will need to look at the land uses, and the associated land designations that
the General Plan will establish. Staff will then need to do the consistency
zoning and update the Development Code which should be completed after
the General Plan is adopted.
Commissioner O'Neal asked Planning Consultant Coury what he thinks about
the design review process.
Planning Consultant Coury indicated that the design review process includes
parking standards, circulation, landscape, and building design, etc. He stated
that he understands Commissioner Morsch's point of view that if a blanket
map were adopted without knowing what development will occur, it could
create problems that would need to be fixed in the future. He indicated that
Planning Staff reviews these issues during the design review process and the
project has to meet and comply with all development standards when the
project design comes forward. He noted that the responsibility is put on the
developer because they risk subdividing a property according to today's
design standards knowing that tomorrow's standards could change following
the General Plan, and Zoning Code Update, etc.
Commissioner Morsch indicated that he feels that the design review should
take place at the same time that the parcel map is reviewed because there
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are various elements that go into Commercial Designs. He also stated that
the City should give Developers of Shopping Centers as much latitude and
flexibility as possible and aid Commercial Development community as they
are bringing tenants of these Shopping Centers to the City.
Commissioner Jordan indicated that she thinks that the design review should
not take place at the same time that the parcel map is reviewed because a
design review is very specific and to do this at the same time that the
tentative parcel map is done is too early.
Commissioner Morsch indicated that Commissioner Jordan may be locked
into the residential subdivision concept of land development and not
commercial.
Commissioner Jordan indicated that she has done commercial projects also.
Vice-Chairman Mendoza indicated that each Commissioner is going to have a
different opinion on various projects that come in front of the Commission but
in the end the majority decides whether a project is approved or disapproved.
Chairman Gonzales noted that the Municipal Code will need to be reviewed at
a later date.
City Manager Brady confirmed that the Municipal Code still needs to be
updated and revised.
STAFF COMMENTS
Public Works Director Seumalo indicated that the Lakeshore Drive (4 corners)
project and the River Walk project are both underway.
Senior Planner Harris had no comments.
Planning Consultant Coury had no comments.
Office Specialist Reid had no comments.
City Manager Brady indicated that at the last City Council meeting, the Council
received the Draft Housing Element for review and they requested a Joint Study
Session with the Planning Commission on Tuesday, November 16, 2010, at 5:00
p.m. at the Cultural Center. He also indicated that the Planning Commission also
received a copy of the Draft Housing Element for review and requested that they
forward any comments or questions to Staff prior to the Study Session so that
they can have the answers available in a timely manner.
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Chairman Gonzales indicated that he reviewed the first half of the Draft Housing
Element and asked how accurate some of the data is because the census is not
out yet.
Commissioner O'Neal stated that the economic data is available.
CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
City Attorney Leibold had no comments.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Commissioner Morsch discussed the status of the City's project (4 corners).
Commissioner O'Neal had no comments.
Vice-Chairman Mendoza had no comments.
Chairman Gonzales mentioned that he went to Arizona a few weeks ago and
spoke to the Chairman of the City of Phoenix Planning Commission who
indicated that the City doesn't allow chain link fences or wood fences, only brick
or cinder block and also stated that he noticed no graffiti on the freeways signs.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the Planning Commission,
Chairman Gonzales adjourned the meeting at 6:32 p.m.
The Joint Study Session regarding the Housing Element will be scheduled for
Tuesday, November 16, 2010, at 5:00 p.m. at the Cultural Center located at
183 N. Main Street, Lake Elsinore, CA 92530.
hn Gonzales
Chairman
Respectfully Submitted,
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Kristine Herrington
Office Specialist
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