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CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
MINUTES
AUGUST 17, 2010
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Gonzales called the regular meeting of the Lake Elsinore Planning
Commission held on Tuesday, August 17, 2010 to order at 6:00 p.m. in the
Cultural Center, located at 183 N. Main Street, Lake Elsinore, CA 92530.
PRESENT: Chairman Gonzales, Vice-Chairman Mendoza, Commissioner
Jordan, Commissioner Morsch, Commissioner O'Neal
ABSENT: None
Also present: City Manager Brady, Assistant City Attorney Mann
Staff members present included: Senior Planner Harris, Planning Consultant
Coury, Public Works Director Seumalo, and Office Specialist Porche'
CALL TO ORDER (6:00 P.M.)
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner O'Neal.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chairman Gonzales
Vice-Chairman Mendoza
Commissioner Jordan
Commissioner Morsch
Commissioner O'Neal
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS - 3 MINUTES
CONSENT CALENDAR
(1) Approval of Planning Commission Minutes
Recommendation: Approve the following Minute(s):
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• June 15, 2010
MOTION was made by Commissioner O'Neal, and seconded by Vice-
Chairman Mendoza to approve the June 15, 2010 Planning Commission
Minutes, including the red-lined changes.
AYES: Gonzales, Mendoza, Morsch, O'Neal
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: Jordan
PUBLIC HEARING(S)
(2)
Motocross Facility
Recommendation:
Staff recommends that the Planning Commission review the outstanding
Conditions of Approval and direct staff as deemed appropriate.
City Manager Brady indicated that this item was continued from the
previous meeting and asked Senior Planner Harris to provide an update
as to what transpired since the last meeting.
Senior Planner Harris provided an update regarding the Motocross Facility
and indicated that the applicant, Mr. Hiner, had adequate time to address
the non-compliance issues. He stated that Mr. Hiner said that he has no
intension of re-opening the park and a large majority of the non-compliant
Conditions will be addressed prior to re-opening the facility. He distributed
to the Commission an authorized letter by the owner giving Mr. Hiner
permission to speak on his behalf.
REQUEST TO SPEAK
David Masters gave his name and address. He indicated that the
Motocross Facility is a good fit for the City and would like the Motocross
Facility to continue running.
Chairman Gonzales requested clarification from Assistant City Attorney
Mann regarding the authorized letter by the owner that was distributed to
the Commission.
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Assistant City Attorney Mann indicated that the Commission received a
letter that was addressed to Matthew Harris from the property owner, Kris
Kakkar, authorizing Randy Hiner to speak on behalf of Cereal Partners.
He indicated that Mr. Hiner is able to offer opinions but does not have the
right to sign for or address any of the Conditions of Approval within the
CUP that require the property owner's approval.
Commissioner Morsch requested that Senior Planner Harris add a
Condition requiring that handouts be distributed to visitors of the park with
information regarding rules of the park.
City Manager Brady stated that Condition No. 11 will be revised to include
Commissioner Morsch's statement.
It was agreed by all Commissioners per Commissioner Morsch to revise
Condition No. 11 to read; "Operator of the facility to prepare a handout for
anyone entering the park which includes the rules of the park.
City Manager Brady indicated that the CUP has already been approved
and the Commission can either suspend, continue the review process,
revoke, modify or just make the determination that the conditional use
stands and once a new owner purchases the facility, he or she will have to
comply with all outstanding Conditions.
Chairman Gonzales suggested that this item be continued to a date
uncertain until the new owners take over and take care of the outstanding
Conditions.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Jordan, seconded by
Commissioner O'Neal and unanimously carried to revise Condition
No. 11 to read; "Operator of the facility to prepare a handout for
anyone entering the park which includes the rules of the park". Also,
the conditional use stands and once a new owner purchases the
facility, he or she will have to comply with all outstanding
Conditions.
AYES: Gonzales, Mendoza, Jordan, Morsch, O'Neal
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
Commissioner O'Neal asked if the facility is currently fenced off.
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Public Works Director Seumalo indicated that the gate to the facility is
closed and there is partial fencing at the facility but it is not secure.
Commissioner O'Neal indicated that there could be liability issues for the
City.
Assistant City Attorney Mann indicated that the facility is on private
property and the City is not liable unless the partial fencing poses a health
and safety concern. If it does pose a health and safety concern then the
City can act immediately to have the owner secure the property with
fencing around the entire property.
Commissioner O'Neal asked City Manager Brady if the City can require
that there be a fence put around the property until it is re-opened or re-
sold.
City Manager Brady indicated that the City can determine if there is a
nuisance at the property regarding safety issues and liability, and if so, the
City can require that a fence be put around the property.
Chairman Gonzales confirmed that the City will decide whether there is a
nuisance at the property and go on from there.
(3) Tentative Parcel Map No. 35135: A request to subdivide an existing 9.07
acre site into four (4) parcels and one (1) remainder within the General
Plan Commercial (C-2) District
Recommendation
a. Adopt a resolution adopting findings that the project is consistent
with the Multiple Species Habitat Conservation Plan: and,
b. Adopt a resolution recommending to the City Council approval of
City Manager Brady provided an overview of the project and requested
that Planning Consultant Coury review it with the Commission and answer
questions.
Planning Consultant Coury provided an overview of the project to the
Commission and indicated that the applicant was present. He noted that
there was a typo on the Resolution, JHL Consulting, Inc. was corrected to
MHL Consulting, Inc. and indicated that it would be corrected on City
Council Resolution as well.
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Vice-Chairman Mendoza stated his concern about the adequacy of
existing spaces onsite.
Commissioner O'Neal asked Planning Consultant Coury who the
reciprocal agreement was with.
Planning Consultant Coury indicated that the reciprocal agreement was
with the adjacent property owner, Trevi Entertainment Center.
Commissioner O'Neal stated to Mr. Coury that when Trevi Entertainment
Center was approved, the Commission was concerned that if there was
more development there would not be enough parking. He also indicated
that letters were sent to the property owner to clean up the lots and the
owner did not comply.
Commissioner Jordan asked why it doesn't state in the Conditions of
Approval, that the City requests the "Will Serve" letters prior to parcel map
approval and indicated that it would be better to request this at final map
or parcel map approval.
Public Works Director Seumalo indicated that the subdivision map process
is dividing the land and that staff doesn't necessarily know what the land
use is going to be. At Building Permit issuance, staff does know what the
land use is, therefore, the water need is known and that is why staff does
it in that sequence.
Commissioner Jordan indicated that she didn't see a Traffic Control Plan
in the engineering conditions and wanted to know if a Traffic Control Plan
was required,
Public Works Director Seumalo stated that staff reviewed the land division
with no specific uses in mind.
Commissioner Jordan asked if parking was considered.
Planning Consultant Coury indicated that staff looked at it with concern but
stated that there are no uses proposed with the map at this time and the
only use that exists there is Trevi Entertainment Center.
Vice-Chairman Mendoza noted that parcel no. 4 is part of Trevi so if they
wanted to take it away, they could.
The applicant, Matthew Liesemeyer of MHL Consulting, addressed the
parking issue indicating that there was a consultant hired to do a traffic
analysis for the entire complex, including Trevi Lanes, the Casino, the
Theater and the Hotel and there were extra parking spaces identified. He
stated that the amount of existing parking spaces onsite far exceeds
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zoning requirements. He also addressed Condition No. 19 indicating that
the 2nd plan check for the slope landscaping plans was submitted to the
City's landscaping consultants so as to upgrade the existing slope
landscaping along the property's Mission Trail frontage.
Commissioner Morsch indicated that he would feel more comfortable if the
Commission were to get a conceptual plan to show circulation of parking.
He addressed issues regarding the lot configurations, street frontage, and
that the tentative tract map does not show a 10 foot dedication. He also
indicated that with what he reviewed, it is in violation of the General Plan.
Planning Consultant Coury addressed the 10 foot dedication and stated
that staff would review and follow-up with the Commission.
Commissioner Morsch suggested that staff review the issues and return to
the Commission with another tentative tract map that is in compliance
along with an exhibit with a site plan that would demonstrate feasibility
with the parking circulation, etc.
Mr. Liesemeyer indicated that he prepared an exhibit but staff did not
include it with the uses onsite.
Commissioner O'Neal asked Mr. Liesemeyer to identify the parking issues
of the development.
Mr. Liesemeyer indicated that he would outline where the parking stalls
will be allocated for uses onsite.
Commissioner Morsch asked if the City is required to provide American
Disabilities Act (ADA) access from Mission Trail to the Trevi Center and
stated that he is mentioning this so that this can be incorporated into the
next design.
City Manager Brady indicated that
constructed when Trevi was put in
between the theater and Trevi Lanes.
there was ADA access that was
which is adjacent to the driveway
Commissioner Morsch stated that there was no indication that it was ADA
accessible and thinks the slope is too steep.
Planning Consultant Coury requested clarification on the following:
1) Identify ADA access
2) Identify Parking and Conceptual Plan
3) Resolve the 100 foot frontage for the remaining parcel
4) Verify that the newly created parcels shall conform to the 25,000
sq. ft. minimum lot size requirement.
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MOTION was made by Commissioner Morsch, and seconded by Vice-
Chairman Mendoza to continue Tentative Parcel Map No. 35135 to
September 7, 2010, Planning Commission meeting.
AYES: Gonzales, Mendoza, Jordan, Morsch
NOES: O'Neal
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
STAFF COMMENTS
Public Works Director Seumalo indicated that the Lakeshore Drive Overlay
project is going before City Council for consideration for awarding the bid on
August 24t and construction is to start the first week of October. Also, there is a
bid opening for the River Walk that will also go before City Council for
consideration on August 24th
Planning Consultant Coury had no comments.
Senior Planner Harris indicated that a few of the Commissioners had questions
regarding the status of the Lake Elsinore Casino sign that went to the Planning
Commission and was denied and stated that the sign had been completely
painted over.
Office Specialist Porche' had no comments.
City Manger Brady stated that the CUP that was considered for the Church and
denied by the Planning Commission at the last Planning Commission meeting
has been appealed and will be considered by the City Council on August 24,
2010. He also requested that the Commissioners pick up their Planning
Commission Agenda/Packet at City Hall and Office Specialist Herrington will
contact them once it is ready.
BUSINESS ITEM(S)
None.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Commissioner Morsch stated that he and his wife went to McVicor Park for a
concert in the park last Saturday night and listened to the Silver Beatles which
was a lot of fun.
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Commissioner Jordan had no comments.
Commissioner O'Neal had no comments.
Vice-Chairman Mendoza had no comments.
Chairman Gonzales had no comments.
CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
Assistant City Attorney Mann had no comments.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the Planning Commission
Chairman Gonzales adjourned the meeting at 8:00 p.m.
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission of the City of Lake
Elsinore is scheduled for Tuesday, September 7, 2010, at 6:00 p.m. in the
Cultural Center located at 183 N. Main Street, Lake Elsinore, CA 92530.
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John Gonzales
Chairman
Respectfully Submitted,
Kristine Herrington
Office Specialist
Attest:
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61obert A. Brady
City Manager