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CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
MINUTES
MARCH 16, 2010
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Flores called the regular meeting of the Lake Elsinore Planning
Commission held on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 to order at 6:04 p.m. in the
Cultural Center, located at 183 N. Main Street, Lake Elsinore, CA 92530.
PRESENT: Chairman Flores, Vice-Chairman Gonzales, Commissioner
Mendoza, Commissioner O'Neal, Commissioner Zanelli
ABSENT: None
Also present: Director of Community Development Weiner, City Attorney
Leibold.
Staff members present included: Senior Planner Harris, Planning Consultant
Coury, Planning Consultant Donahoe, and Office Specialist Porche'.
CALL TO ORDER (5:56 P.M.)
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Vice-Chairman Gonzales.
ROLL CALL
All Commission members were present.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS - 1 MINUTE
None
CONSENT CALENDAR
(1) Approval of Planning Commission Minutes
Recommendation: Approve the following Minute(s):
0 February2, 2010
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PUBLIC HEARING(S)
(2) Residential Design Review No. 2010-01. Amendment No. 1 for
"Bridgegate" Project Area within the Canyon Hills Specific Hills Specific
Plan
Recommendation:
a. Adopt Resolution No. 2010-05 adopting findings that the project is
exempt from the Multiple Species Habitat Conservation Plan (MSHCP),
and,
b. Adopt Resolution No. 2010-06 approving Residential Design Review
No. 2010-01.
Director of Community Development Weiner provided an overview of the
project and requested that Planning Consultant Coury review it with the
Commission and answer questions.
Planning Consultant Coury provided an overview of the project to the
Commission and indicated that the applicant was present. He stated that
he provided handouts to the Commission prior to the meeting and
indicated that staff received three phone calls relative to the project; one
gentleman was opposing the project, one gentleman was requesting
additional information regarding the project, and the last gentleman sent
an e-mail expressing support for the project. Also, Planning Consultant
Coury noted a modification to Condition No. 35, amending the hours of
construction.
The applicant, Sondra Netzer of Richmond American Homes, stated her
name and address and agreed and accepted the Conditions of Approval.
She indicated that she was very excited about bringing another project to
the City of Lake Elsinore and indicated that Richmond American Homes
has been building homes for over forty years. She stated homes were
energy efficient and described the architecture as being consistent with
the community.
Vice-Chairman Gonzales asked the applicant if the model homes would
be built behind a gated area and how would the public be able to view the
homes.
The applicant stated that the gates would be left open during the day for
sales purposes.
Commissioner Zanelli thanked Ms. Netzer and Richmond American
Homes for meeting with the public and said he was looking forward to the
project beginning.
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Commissioner O'Neal thanked Ms. Netzer and her team and stated that it
was very good architecture. He asked Public Works Director Seumalo to
clarify Condition No. 108, and also wanted to confirm with the applicant,
Ms. Netzer, that the square footage of the homes was lowered.
The Ms. Netzer stated that this was correct.
Commissioner Mendoza indicated to Ms. Netzer that it was great that she
held a community meeting and spoke to the existing residents which
showed good faith. He also thanked Director Weiner and Planning
Consultant Coury for answering all of his questions.
Chairman Flores asked Ms. Netzer how it was working with staff.
Ms. Netzer indicated that it was a very smooth process and stated that
Director Weiner and Planning Consultant Coury were great to work with
and very approachable.
Chairman Flores indicated to Ms. Netzer that the community meeting was
truly an asset.
Commissioner O'Neal stated to Planning Consultant Coury that it was
excellent that the project was submitted and approved within three
months.
Planning Consultant Coury thanked Richmond American for their due
diligence prior to submittal.
REQUEST TO SPEAK
Mike Ali, stated his name and address. He asked the representative of
Richmond American Homes to inform him of the prices and square
footage of the homes.
Ms. Netzer stated that the square footage was from 2,034 to 3,370 and
the price ranged from the high 200K to low to mid $300K.
Passed and adopted the following Resolution:
"Resolution No. 2010-05 - A Resolution of the Planning Commission of the
City of Lake Elsinore, California, adopting findings that the project is
exempt from the Multiple Species Habitat Conservation Plan (MSHCP).11
MOTION was made by Commissioner Mendoza, seconded by
Commissioner Zanelli and unanimously carried to adopt findings that the
project is exempt from the MSHCP."
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AYES: Flores, Gonzales, Mendoza, O'Neal, Zanelli.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
"Resolution No. 2010-06 - A Resolution of the Planning Commission of the
City of Lake Elsinore, California, approving Residential Design Review No.
2010-01.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Zanelli, seconded by Commissioner
Mendoza and unanimously carried to approve Residential Design Review
No. 2010-01.
AYES: Flores, Gonzales, Mendoza, O'Neal, Zanelli.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
(3) Mitigated Negative Declaration No. 2008-09, Tentative Parcel Map No.
35819, and Industrial Design Review No. 2008-01, for Collier Avenue
Automotive Center
Recommendation:
On March 9, 2010, staff received an email from the applicant requesting
the item be continued to allow additional time to review and coordinate the
project's Conditions of Approval (Attachment). Therefore, with the
consent of the applicant, staff is requesting that this item be continued to
the April 20, 2010, Planning Commission meeting.
Director Weiner indicated that the applicant requested a continuance to
the April 20, 2010, Planning Commission meeting.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Zanelli, second by Commissioner
O'Neal and unanimously carried to continue Mitigated Negative Declaration
No. 2008-09, Tentative Parcel Map No. 35819, and Industrial Design Review
No. 2008-01, for Collier Avenue Automotive Center.
AYES: Flores, Gonzales, Mendoza, O'Neal, Zanelli.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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(4) Tentative Parcel Map No. 35336, and Tentative Tract Map No. 35337, for
the "Spyglass Ranch Specific Plan"
Recommendation:
Staff recommends that the Planning Commission adopt resolutions
recommending to the City Council of the City of Lake Elsinore adoption
and approval of:
a) Findings of Consistency with the MSHCP, and
b) Tentative Parcel Map No. 35336, and
c) Tentative Tract Map No. 35337
Director of Community Development Weiner provided an overview of the
project and requested that Senior Planner Matthew Harris review it with
the Commission and answer questions.
Senior Planner Harris provided an overview of the project and asked
Public Works Director Seumalo to review the modified Engineering
Conditions.
Public Works Director Seumalo reviewed the modified Engineering
Conditions.
The applicant, Erik Lunde, stated his name and address. He requested
that Public Works Director Seumalo correct Condition No.'s 41, 42 and
122 of Tentative Tract Map No. 35337.
Public Works Director Seumalo indicated to Mr. Lunde that staff concurred
with the corrections to Condition No.'s 41, 42, and 122.
Mr. Lunde stated that they were in conformance with the Specific Plan.
Chairman Flores stated that there was not a signed "Acknowledgment of
Conditions" form provided in the staff report and asked Mr. Lunde if there
was a signed copy.
Mr. Lunde stated that he would provide a signed "Acknowledgment of
Conditions" form since the Conditions he requested corrections on were
addressed by the Public Works Director Seumalo.
Director Weiner indicated that at the time that the Planning Commission
Report was generated staff had not received a signed copy of the
"Acknowledgment of Conditions" form from Mr. Lunde and stated that if
the Commission agreed to the modifications to the Conditions then he
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would submit the signed "Acknowledgment of Conditions" form into the
report.
Vice-Chairman Gonzales asked Mr. Lunde about the road going through
the Spyglass Specific Plan.
Mr. Lunde indicated that the road is a General Plan road and half of the
road is in the Spyglass Ranch Specific Plan and half of the road is in
Southshore I.
Vice-Chairman Gonzales asked about the location of the park within the
Spyglass Specific Plan.
Mr. Lunde indicated that the park was off-site and was not within Spyglass
Ranch Specific Plan property but the residents would have access to the
park.
Vice-Chairman Gonzales asked Mr. Lunde where the water tanks would
be located.
Mr. Lunde indicated that the water tanks would be in open space at the
elevation of 1701 and would not be seen.
Commissioner Mendoza requested that three items be addressed:
1. Once the development is completed, homeowners need to be
responsible for any drainage that occurs on any of their neighbors
adjoining property.
2. He requested that the park be completed on time because there
have been problems in the past with non-completion, and if there
are any modifications that need to be done to the park that these
modifications need to be presented in front of the Planning
Commission for approval.
3. Once occupancy occurs, Notices need to be posted in the area
letting residents know if any building and/or construction would be
taking place with a contact number.
Commissioner Mendoza stated to Senior Planner Harris that it was a good
presentation.
Vice-Chairman Gonzales asked Mr Lunde of the status of Johnny
Weissmuller's home at the end of the park.
Mr. Lunde stated that if the Commission approved the project, during the
final engineering phase, they would take a look at the house and begin
drawing up plans.
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Commissioner O'Neal asked if anyone could confirm that it was Johnny
Weissmuller's home, and if he actually owned and lived in the home.
Mr. Lunde indicated that there has never been confirmation of that.
Commissioner O'Neal asked Mr. Lunde if he knew when the house was
built.
Mr. Lunde stated that the Historical Society had that information and
would follow-up with them.
Commissioner O'Neal asked Senior Planner Harris if Spyglass Ranch
Specific Plan conformed to the old General Plan or the new General Plan.
Senior Planner Harris stated that it conformed to both the old General
Plan and the new General Plan.
Commissioner O'Neal indicated that Senior Planner Harris did a good job
on the project.
Commissioner Zanelli asked Public Works Director Seumalo about the
slope on Elsinore Hills Drive in Rosetta Canyon West because the slope
at Summerhill is extremely steep. He wanted to confirm that Elsinore Hills
Drive slope would not be as steep.
Public Works Director Seumalo described the topography of this area and
the project's grading plans.
Commissioner Zanelli asked Public Works Director Seumalo if there would
be a lot of open space between Elsinore Hills Drive in Rosetta Canyon
and Canyon Hills.
Public Works Director Seumalo stated that with respect to this project,
there would be open space between the two, and indicated that
Southshore II had street plans that connect Rosetta Canyon to Camino
Del Norte.
Commissioner Zanelli stated that he hoped that the two areas connected
for emergency response once the area was more developed.
Commissioner Mendoza addressed concerns about the Home Owners
Association (HOA). He wanted Mr. Lunde to ensure that the HOA would
not be giving the homeowners any problems once all phases were built
out.
Mr. Lunde stated to Commissioner Mendoza that the applicable developer
would maintain "Declarant Rights" to oversee the HOA until build out.
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Commissioner Zanelli noted concerns regarding the stabilization of the
slope at the end of Main Street.
Public Works Director Seumalo indicated that a soils report was
completed which detailed the recommendation.
Chairman Flores asked Mr. Lunde where the first parcels would be built.
Mr. Lunde indicated that the first parcels to be built would be near the
park.
Chairman Flores asked Mr. Lunde how many homes would be built.
Mr. Lunde indicated that six to ten homes would be built per phase which
totals one hundred.
Resolution No. 2010-07 - A Resolution of the Planning Commission of the
City of Lake Elsinore, California, recommending to the City Council of the
City of Lake Elsinore adoption of findings that the project is consistent with
the MSHCP.
MOTION was made by Commissioner O'Neal, second by Commissioner
Zanelli to approve adoption of findings that the project is consistent with
the MSHCP.
AYES: Flores, Gonzales, Mendoza, O'Neal, Zanelli.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Resolution No. 2010-08 - A Resolution of the Planning Commission of the
City of Lake Elsinore, California, recommending that the City Council
approve Tentative Parcel Map No. 35336.
MOTION was made by Commissioner O'Neal, second by Commissioner
Mendoza to approve changes to Tentative Parcel Map No. 35336.
AYES: Flores, Gonzales, Mendoza, O'Neal, Zanelli.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
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Resolution No. 2010-09 - A Resolution of the Planning Commission of the
City of Lake Elsinore, California, recommending that the City Council
approve Tentative Tract Map No. 35337.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Zanelli, second by Commissioner
Mendoza to approve changes to Tentative Tract Map No. 35337.
AYES: Flores, Gonzales, Mendoza, O'Neal, Zanelli.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
(5) Residential Design Review No. 2009-05 proposed for 65 lots in Rosetta
Hills, Tract 31792, by D R Horton
Recommendation:
Staff recommends that the Planning Commission approve Residential
Design Review No. 2009-05.
Director of Community Development Weiner provided an overview of the
project and requested that Planning Consultant Donahoe review it with the
Commission and answer questions.
Planning Consultant Donahoe provided an overview of the project to the
Commission and indicated the applicant was present. She noted that
there was a correction to Condition No. 11 relating to construction hours
which reflected the hours that were noted in Condition No. 10.
The applicant, Daniel Boyd, Vice President of D R Horton, stated his name
and address. He indicated that it was a pleasure working with the
Planning staff. He stated that they began by addressing the concerns of
the community and as a result, made the requested modifications to the
project and due to the communities input, he felt comfortable that the
development was consistent and compatible with the existing project, and
fit very nicely with the community.
Chairman Flores welcomed D R Horton to the City.
REQUEST TO SPEAK
Resident, Al Serado stated that he resides in Rosetta Canyon. He
indicated that he had concerns about the reduction of the square footage
of the homes and believed that these new homes being built would not fit
in with the existing homes of the neighborhood.
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Chairman Flores asked Mr. Boyd to inform the home owner of the square
footage of the homes to be built.
Mr. Boyd indicated that their project is proposing four product plans,
ranging from 2257 square feet to 2644 square feet. He indicated that staff
reviewed the size of the square footage extensively for compatibility. He
did note that square footage was a concern but he stated that they are
very good home builders and they listen to their customers and know what
their customers want. He further stated that bigger is not better, and they
did not change the lot standards or the set backs. He said he understood
the home owner's concern but between staffs review, the communities
review, and the developers review, they did a great job to modify the
product.
Vice-Chairman Gonzales asked Mr. Boyd what the cost of the new homes
would be.
Mr. Boyd indicated that the price would range from the high 200K to low to
mid 300K.
Resident, Mike Ali, stated that he resides in Rosetta Canyon. He
addressed concerns regarding lower square footage of the new homes
being built, the HOA, the general public now having access to the park,
and the safety of the neighborhood. He suggested that the community be
gated and asked the Council to take all of this into consideration.
Chairman Flores asked Public Works Director Seumalo, and Director
Weiner to give Mr. Ali their business cards and he could contact them with
his concerns.
Commissioner Zanelli thanked Planning Consultant Donahoe for her
presentation, and thanked Mr. Boyd for his willingness to work with staff to
modify the design criteria. He also addressed Mr. Ali's concerns regarding
the square footage, safety within the neighborhood, and the concern about
the park.
Commissioner O'Neal indicated that he thought it was great that D R
Horton was developing in the City, and thanked Planning Consultant
Donahoe for her presentation. He indicated that he liked the design of the
product and would approve the project.
Commissioner Mendoza stated that all of his questions were answered.
Vice Chairman Gonzales asked Mr. Boyd where the signs would be
located for the new homes.
Mr. Boyd referred this question to staff.
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Planning Consultant Donahoe indicated that the placement of the signs
would be at 3rd Street and Waterford, and stated that this information was
in Condition No. 14.
Chairman Flores thanked Mr. Boyd for color coding the lots which
identified the square footage of each home.
Resolution No. 2010-10 - A Resolution of the Planning Commission of the
City of Lake Elsinore, California, approving Residential Design Review No.
2009-05 by D R Horton in Rosetta Hills.
MOTION was made by Commissioner Gonzales, seconded by
Commissioner Mendoza to approve Residential Design Review No. 2009-05
by D R Horton in Rosetta Hills.
AYES: Flores, Gonzales, Mendoza, O'Neal, Zanelli.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
Commissioner O'Neal noted that a correction needed to be made to the
February 2, 2010, Planning Commission meeting minutes and the
correction was that the City Attorney Leibold was not in attendance at that
meeting.
BUSINESS ITEM(S)
None.
STAFF COMMENTS
Public Works Director Seumalo apologized for his absence at the last
Planning Commission meeting. He gave the Capitol Improvement
Program update.
Commissioner O'Neal indicated to Public Works Director Seumalo that
someone did some illegal grading on Hunt Street and asked if this was a
Code Enforcement issue.
Public Works Director Seumalo stated that he would coordinate with
Director Weiner and Code Enforcement to make sure that the area was
secured for erosion control.
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Vice-Chairman Gonzales stated to Public Works Director Seumalo that he
noticed that the Eucalyptus trees behind Home Depo are big and the
Home Depot sign is not visible from the freeway.
Public Works Director Seumalo addressed his concerns and stated that he
would find out if the trees belong to Home Depo or Cal-Trans. He also
wanted to recognize and thank resident Rick Morsh, who is a professional
engineer and will be volunteering his time to assist the Engineering staff.
Redevelopment Agency Analyst Carlson had no comments.
Senior Planner Harris had no comments.
Commissioner Zanelli asked Senior Planner Harris to give the
Commission a brief overview of the meeting that he had with Mr. Hiner.
Senior Planner Harris stated that he and Redevelopment Agency Analyst
Carlson met with Mr. Hiner at his Motocross Facility site last week and
reviewed with Mr. Hiner the existing Conditions of Approval associated
with his current Conditional Use Permit (CUP) to confirm that he was in
compliance with those Conditions and his proposed CUP. He indicated
that he would be presenting a detailed staff report regarding those matters
on April 6th
Planning Consultant Donahoe had no comments.
Office Specialist Porche' had no comments.
Director Weiner thanked the Planning staff for their hard work making
customer service a priority. He also indicated that the Walgreens project
and Motocross will be presented at the next Planning Commission
meeting. He also stated that staff would be bringing to the Planning
Commission and the City Council the Contract for finalization of the
Environmental Impact Report for the General Plan Update which would
cover the Housing Element, the Downtown Master Plan, the Climate
Action Plan, and the General Plan Update at mid to late summer.
CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
None.
PLANNING COMMISSION COMMENTS
Vice-Chairman Gonzales asked what the status was of the Storm sign that got
approved last year.
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Director Weiner indicated that he spoke to Dave Oster from the Storm Stadium
and there was a delay due to construction/cost issues.
Vice-Chairman Gonzales thanked Senior Planner Harris and General Information
Specialist Borrozo for the work that they did on the Census Committee.
Commissioner Zanelli wanted confirmation from Public Works Director Seumalo
of the official Street name of Walham Place. He indicated that there has been
confusion when trying to find the Street with the delivery services and map quest.
He also requested a date as to when the Park and Fire Station's dedication
would be.
Public Works Director Seumalo indicated that April 10th is the Grand Opening.
Chairman Flores thanked the Planning staff for all of their hard work. He also
indicated that in the future, when new developments come to the City, to ensure
that the parks and infrastructure are completed prior to occupancy of the first
homes being built because there have been problems in the past with unfinished
parks with the new developments.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the Planning Commission
Chairman Flores adjourned the meeting at 6:53 p.m.
The next regular meeting of the Planning Commission of the City of Lake
Elsinore is scheduled for Tuesday, April 6, 2010, at 6:00 p.m. in the Cultural
Center located at 183 N. Main Street, Lake Elsinore, CA 92530.
Respectfully Submitted,
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Kristine Herrington
Office Specialist
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Attest:
Tq(n Weiner
irector of Comm unit evelopment