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MINUTES
JOINT CITY COUNCIL/PLANNING COMMISSION
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, MAY 13, 2008
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Hickman called the Joint Study Session to order at 4:37 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
MAYOR HICKMAN
MAYOR PRO TEM KELLEY
COUNCILMAN BUCKLEY
COUNCILMAN MAGEE
COUNCILMAN SCHIFFNER
CHAIRMAN O'NEAL
VICE-CHAIR GONZALES
COMMISSIONER FLORES
COMMISSIONER ZANELLI
ABSENT:
NONE
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
Also present were: City Manager Brady, City Attorney Leibold, Administrative Services
Director Pressey, Community Development Director Preisendanz, Public Works
Director/City Engineer Seumalo, Planning Manager Weiner, Associate Planner Carlson,
Planner Bitterolf, Redevelopment Project Manager McCarty and City Clerk Munson.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Tim Fleming, resident, expressed his concerns regarding the proposed General Plan
Land Use Map. He stated down-zoning and devaluating properties is wrong and
indicated the City needs more neighborhood commercial designations in order to create
more interest and opportunities in the community.
BUSINESS ITEMS
(1) CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION RECEIVED AND FILED THE
HOUSING ELEMENT UPDATE
Community Development Director Preisendanz gave a brief overview and
introduced the City's consultant Hogle-Ireland. He indicated the Housing
Element was adopted in 1995, was updated in July of 2002 and State law
requires the Element to be updated every five years. He stated Housing of
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Community Development (HCD) approved an extension of time until June of
2008.
Ms. Viado of Hogle-Ireland presented a brief overview of what their firm has been
doing with the update of the Housing Element. She gave a PowerPoint
presentation on housing statistics, census count, accomplishing the City's fair
share of housing needs, housing constraints, new legislation, i.e. SB 2 -
emergency shelters, SB 520 - reasonable accommodations, and indicated they
will make recommendations to address these issues and will ensure the City has
sufficient supporting documentation for when State and Federal grant funds need
to be secured.
Ms. Viado stated the three main areas to focus for the City of Lake Elsinore are
the needs, constraints and resources which will be used to form the housing plan
which will identify all quantifiable housing accomplishments of the City since
2002 plan was approved, modify or delete any of the policies and programs from
2002 and identify any new policies and programs for this cycle.
Ms. Viado indicated she would address any questions of the City Council and
Planning Commission.
Commissioner Flores indicated it would have been helpful to have a copy of the
PowerPoint presentation.
Chairman O'Neal inquired if the homes that are currently in foreclosure could be
turned over into above-moderate income.
Ms. Viado indicated they could not.
Commissioner Zanelli inquired if there was any funding that came along with the
emergency housing for the homeless mandate.
Ms. Viado indicated there was not.
Commissioner Zanelli inquired what the minimum standards for the facilities are
for homeless.
Ms. Viado responded there is as part of the Senate bill, information on what will
be required.
Ms. Stetson of Hogle-Ireland responded the State does not specify exactly what
cities have to do for emergency housing. She stated cities need to address the
emergency housing whether it is for a couple of nights stay or long term.
Commissioner Zanelli inquired about the number of people needed to be housed.
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Ms. Stetson responded there has to be zoning in place to allow somebody to put
an emergency shelter in the City.
Councilman Magee concurred with Commissioner Flores regarding having a
copy of the PowerPoint presentation. He inquired what the median-income
number was based off of.
Ms. Charpentier of Hogle-Ireland responded the median income for Riverside
County for the new 2008 standards is up to 62,000 and for the City of Lake
Elsinore is 48,305.
Councilman Magee inquired how the City will accomplish promoting estate
housing and will the document address this. He indicated the City is in dire need
of estate homes and this needs to be accommodated in the Housing Element
and in the City's General Plan.
Ms. Stetson responded it will not and is not a legislative mandate but can be
addressed in the City's Housing Element. She indicated estate homes would be
considered above-moderate and the City's goal is to facilitate 2,300 above-
moderate which can be anything from a standard 4-bedroom home to an estate
home.
Community Development Director Preisendanz agreed and stated the areas the
City is looking at are County Club Heights and some areas along the lake.
Councilman Magee inquired if vacant un-occupied structures can be considered.
Ms. Stetson responded the RHNA is really a requirement for new construction,
so units that were built long ago that are currently sitting vacant, do not count
towards meeting the current housing supply. She also indicated if housing was
built between January 2006 and January 2008, these can be counted towards
satisfying the current need for housing.
Councilman Magee indicated part of a balanced community and a balanced
inventory of housing stock includes the high-end as well as low-end housing.
Councilman Buckley suggested to consider incentives for high-end homes and to
consider what was done in Oakland. He stated hillside residential will be a key to
this, County Club Heights for the larger lots and also indicated the top of Flagstaff
Hill may also be considered for high-end homes.
City Attorney Leibold stated for Redevelopment inclusionary housing purpose is
the above-moderate income category does not come into play. She stated to
satisfy the Redevelopment Agency inclusionary housing requirement; the units
have to have a recorded covenant restricting both the income eligibility of the
occupant and the affordability of the unit in terms of purchase price, and resale
restrictions or affordable rent. She also indicated the units that are built to satisfy
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the Agency inclusionary requirement can double serve to satisfy the RHNA target
obligations but the reverse is not necessarily true. She indicated the units that
satisfy the City's RHNA numbers do not have to have the long term restrictions
but the definitions of affordability are the same and the afford ability calculation is
the same. She stated the numbers under RHNA are target numbers and the
numbers for inclusionary housing are absolute statutory obligations. She noted it
is an Agency obligation that can be facilitated through a City ordinance or
conditions of approval on new development.
Redevelopment Project Manager McCarty responded the City's outstanding
inclusionary obligation is projected by 2010 to be 800 units and 40% of those
units have to be restricted to very low-income.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley inquired if the emergency housing requirements can be
satisfied by non-profits orthe City.
Ms. Stetson responded the City has to allow that type of emergency housing in
its zoning code by right.
Ms. Stetson indicated there is a provision in State law that says if there are units
that are really awful and there is a program to rehab these units, sometimes they
can be counted. She indicated the City will not be penalized if there are not
5,589 new units built between now and 2014. She noted the City is only
obligated, under current Housing law, to show the City has the capacity, because
of zoning and the General Plan to accommodate this number of units. She stated
it is up to the market to provide these units based on the regulations the City has
put in place.
Councilman Schiffner inquired what influence does this plan have or should it
have on the Council's decision as far as lot size and densities.
Ms. Stetson responded the State has provided an out, which says if the City has
a zoning category or General Plan Land Use designation that allows at least 30
units per acre, the State will not question whether or not very low and low income
housing can be built. She indicated if the City does not have densities in that 30+
range, it will be a little more difficult of a dialog with the State as to how the City is
going to meet the obligations to facilitate low and very low housing.
City Attorney Leibold stated one other distinction between the Agency
inclusionary housing obligation versus the City's target under RHNA, if the
project involves existing housing in what's called substantial rehabilitation, which
is the cost of the rehab equals or exceeds 25% of the after improved value of the
property or the improvements, then that can count to satisfy the inclusionary
obligation. She noted the summary of the income categories is the common
summary, but in actuality the low income calculations is not a straight
mathematical calculation of the 80% of median. She stated there are adjustments
made by HUD for a variety of reasons and the best way to understand what the
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limits are for each of those categories is to look at the chart that is published
annually by HCD.
Mayor Hickman inquired who determines the number of 5,590 units.
Ms. Stetson responded it is determined by the SCAG and by the State.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Hickman adjourned the Joint City Council/Planning Commission Study Session
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L."Ol(RYL HICKMAN, MAYOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
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VIVIAN M. MUNSON, CITY CLERK
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
L 0' EAL, CHAIRMAN
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